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Big data is a fucking disease

And this "spontaneous remission" you're referring to is called "having not-shit genes"

Some people win the genetic lottery, some people lose

This has been done for years and done by hand for years before that.

My mother "cured" her (((diabetes))) by not eating shit. Get rid of sugar (and don't replace it with (((alternatives))) either), that will solve a great deal of problems.

>>835036 (OP)

A big problem with medicine is that you cannot study people like you can study lab mice. Take for example the question whether smoking gives you cancer: in order to properly answer that question you would need a large sample size of patients and then lock them under laboratory conditions and observe them. Some get cheap cigarettes, some get expensive Cuban cigars, some get just a placebo (whatever that might look like). It would be impractical, and not to mention that it would be highly unethical to submit people to something you suspect will give them cancer. Data is not very useful when it is tainted by noise.

yes, big data could be used in a way you presented. but it won't because there is no profit from that

it's more profitable to sell people cancer "treatments" for 100k$ than tell them to eat non-jewish healthy food

>>835036 (OP)

>but clearly it has some cause

That doesn't mean the cause is external, reproducible, or generally applicable.

>>835095

>Because they're getting old enough to die of that instead of a rock to the face.

But maybe those aren't the only options. Maybe we can be old and healthy.

>Having access to a lot of good data would be useful, but short of a dictatorship whose sole purpose is to make a huge and inefficient experiment you won't get good data on millions of people.

Well, people already agree to that "dictatorship" when they go on facebook or use google. So maybe they would agree to be put into a program that stores information about their eating habits, exercise habits, social habits, etc. and tries to correlate that to disease incidence?

>>835036 (OP)

>i know nothing about medicine but I still want to make a post: the thread

>>835125

So you mean medicine has cured those diseases?

>>835127

>all diseases are either ended by medicine or by food

>those are the only options, the immune system isn't even real

epin

>>835137

Okay, so the immune system can cure disease. But how does that help a cancer patient? If his immune system is weak? We have to know what would support the immune system, and big data could help with that as well.

>>835137

Healthy immune responses should be included among dietary effects.

>They call it "spontaneous remission" but clearly it has some cause.

Not necessarily it could be unrelated to lifestyle, diet and anything else within a person's control. E.g. suppose the following model: chance of spontaneous remission is partly due to the person's genetics, partly due to the genetics of the cancer, and partly pure chance.

If that in the case then the focus should be on cancer medication and screening for certain genes. We already know there is a big relationship between lifestyle and diet and certain diseases. Not exercising at all is bad for you. Being fat is bad for you.

The problem with thinking of this in terms of "big data" is that as >>835095 says, it's more about clean data than big data. If our data is clean you don't need a lot of it. This is because uncorrelated errors in each datapoint will become less important as sample size increases (law of large numbers) but correlated errors (e.g. people who exercise a lot also under-report what they eat) will ruin your conclusions no matter how big the data.

>>835038

>Big data is a fucking disease

This

>>835085

>A big problem with medicine is that you cannot study people like you can study lab mic

This

>>835036 (OP)

<Let's stop having a private life

<Trust me, it's to cure diseases and not to make everyone into good little slaves

People die. People have always died. Why the fuck should anyone be willing to throw away his privacy to maybe, possibly, get hints on how to cure some disease?

Freedom is more important than cancer.

>>835036 (OP)

>Could "big data" help cure diseases?

Yes, it cure "Antisemitism" disease

>20 days ago

polite sage

>>844726

Why not, people give it away to fight some boogeymen the news told them about.

For the data to be scientifically sound, the doctors and nurses must control everything from exercise, food, sleep, etc. This is why they pay to do studies because you can't run off to go to work or grab some Starbucks. Even jerking off could have a negative impact.

>>835036 (OP)

Could "big" data analysis be used in medical care? Probably. Will "big" data analysis serve as a technological excuse to lay off staff, lower qualifications for the field and make medical care shittier for everyone in the long run? Definitely.