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I'm glad I did not spend more time uploading videos there.

Nothing of value was lost.

Not surprising. Even Google with all their dirty tricks hasn't managed to make YouTube profitable. Still sucks to see one less alternative.

Not surprised.

Not disappointed.

It was full of cucks and they had a feminist-tier CoC.

>>831035

>CoC

Call of Cthulhu?

I don't think about it at all

But at least youtube-dl will load 1ms faster with that dead code removed

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=Dn9IfWNwOpo

Out of all alternative video hosts, theirs downloaded the slowest. Good riddance.

You can not compete with [well established product] if your only distinguishing feature is "I am not [well established product]."

I want to suck off that gook

>>831028 (OP)

It was gay, their censorship was worse than Jewtube yet they advertised themselves as an anti censorship site.

I guess with even Jewtube struggling to make money there isn't much hope of another site trying the same game.

At least we got bitchute. They remove anti semetic content off their peer 2 peer network but its still good.

>>831028 (OP)

>de-google yourself they said

>youtube is botnet they said

>use videme they said

how will they ever recover!??

>>831041

who's the thot and where's her github?

>>831092

vid.me became popular because of porn. Once the site became popular, they banned porn for more advertising revenue.

>>831128

Just like Dailymotion. It used to be a wild west of online videos, you could put up almost anything on it, it had playlists almost a decade before youtube did and you could even see every playlist that certain video was added to (a feature that still is not absent from youtube).

Dailymotion was pretty great. Shame it got sold to a telecom, and now is just a watered down and emptier youtube. Liveleak and WorlSstarHipHop are the only notable0 sites occupying "too edgy for youtube" niche, but even they atr trying to clean up their act somewhat.

I just want a video host to put my video game footage up and have a comments section, but everywhere has a 10-15 minute restriction.

I am serious waiting for video hosting to be less of all-in-one hubs and splintered into small self-hosted sites. I'm also just saying this from the perspective that people have to repost old webms constantly.

>>831037

Cats on Carpets

>>831037

Cocks on Crepes

>>831148

Pew.tube i heard is pretty censorship-ish.

Lbry is nice but requires a javascript client also has a cryptocoin system which is confusing as fuck.

Bitchute is nice but sadly unfinished.

>>831161

Guess i'll stick with bitchute for now then.

>>831028 (OP)

What is it?

Why should anyone care?

>>831041

that asian looking qt better not be a trap yo

>>831045

it might be in separate files and loaded only when needed, in that case there won't be any difference

>>831041

That's a pretty low T group.

Vid.me could have done better but the second they were getting hit with large numbers of new users they locked out new users from creating a pro account or whatever so all the new users were limited unless vid.me reviewed their youtube content and approved them. Glad i did not waste my time uploading one video a week.

>>831192

It is

Ugly site design, what is it with websites trying to overtake youtube forcing users to look at bland, white and non-customizable pages?

use dailymotion or uploadstars instead

Finally.

>we're making a free speech alternative to youtube

>there's no free speech btw, thanks for coming

They had a good idea of offering tips per video and donations to video makers though.

inb4 freetards suggest "blockchain" sites like steemit

Its crypto shilling bullshit and none of the videos are permanently hosted, kill yourself if you believe its a viable alternative.

>>831148

>https://pew.tube/

>https://www.bitchute.com/

>cloudflare

Into the trash it goes.

>>831274

>muh cloudfare spooks

Instead of video-hosting, there should just be a website of organized, searchable 'channels' with embedded videos hosted from other sites. If there were somthing like this, even if youtube took down your video you could just reupload in elsewhere and embed it in the same place.

>>831337

Isn't that pretty much what search engine video searches do already?

>>831041

Is 3rd from the left a male or female?

>>831339

>>831337

That's not user friendly at all.

To upload on Jewtube Jon Q Normie just has to click a couple of big red buttons and he doesn't have to pay for the bandwidth/server.

>>831148

Try d.tube

>>831028 (OP)

That was pretty much expected, you need a lot of money to pay for Youtube's infrastructure

>>831260

Don't forget that it was systematically impossible to gain attention on your videos because in order to tag your video for it to appear in a category, especially new videos for a given category, you needed to be verified. The only way to get verified is to have somewhere around the order of 50 followers along with a few more arbitrary guidelines you need to meet that are no where near as consequential. Basically you need to have already had a following on a different website that you could carry over with you onto vid.me if you wanted to make any headway towards growth at all. The platform discouraged any form of grassroots growth from taking place.

Kind of sad to see more competitors die on the one hand. On the other hand, I never bothered with Vid.me beyond testing once I determined that they actually transcode to an even lower quality than Youtube. Exactly the opposite of what I was looking for in a Youtube alternative. Vimeo is still better and doesn't look like it's going to die soon.

>>831410

Vimeo will never be widely used since you have to pay them to upload videos

The future "Youtube alternatives" should not try to be Youtube 2.0. Niche, topical sites should be the new standard. They said one of their biggest problems was targeting ads without datamining the fuck out of its users.

Look at Full30 for example. Advertisers don't have to worry about targeting the wrong audience when every video is about firearms, the outdoors, survival, and other related topics. They also don't need to meticulously parse through every little thing you watch; they host a video, flash an ad for guns or gun accessories at the start, and leave a little comment field.

Now imagine a whole swarm of Mediagoblin websites following this example. Sounds like a more sustainable idea than a general purpose site like Vidme. The P2P-assisted-hosting websites like Bitchute have nowhere near the userbase needed to make any significant impact on reducing costs, nor do they have an incentive for users to help.

>>831424

>Niche, topical sites should be the new standard.

Why? And who would want that? And why isn't it going to happen?

>>831425

>And why isn't it going to happen?

Social media and normies.

>>831412

u wot?

Since when?

>>831429

Since forever? They have a 500 MB weekly and 25 GB yearly limit on free accounts. Youtube doesn't have any. And youtube actually pays people instead. Vimeo isn't a competitor just on this basis.

>>831028 (OP)

Wasn't this site suppose to be a place where Redditors can upload their videos?

>>831428

Sadly this.

Has anybody tried writing a YT alternative in Rust yet?

>>831492

rust devs already trust google, just like go devs

I want youtube written in Haskell thanks.

>>831496

I don't think Haskell would be performant enough for something so complicated and distributed.

Functional languages are nice for reasons not related to practical use.

>>831502

have you tried rewriting it in erlang yet??? erlang beautiful language!

>>831502

I am so sorry that you took my post seriously, here, have my apologies

apologies

Video is bloat, express your ideas in text and you reduce filesize while maintaining compatibility with the blind

>>831568

But I despise blind people?

>>831569

That's just rude, I'm going blind because I spend all day shitposting with you. Please respect my wishes to continue shitposting with you.

>>831574

Dude, blind people are genetic duds, dude.

>>831575

But LCD screens cause vision impairment.

Does that mean that my computer is changing my genetics?

>>831586

>But LCD screens cause vision impairment.

That's incorrect and an old myth carried over from an old CRT television recall in the 60s because improper shielding resulted in excess X-ray leakage

LCD screens do not "damage" your eyesight and there has never been any cases of permanent vision loss from looking at LCD screens.

HOWEVER, eye strain is a very real thing, if your eyes are constantly having to re-adjust exposure levels you can strain your eye muscles which while not permanent can impair your focus temporarily.

t. legally blind person

>>831586

Have you never heard of genetic memory or telegony? You should read more science I fucking love science.

>>831591

why is my eyesight getting worse after 5 years of watching anime nonstop

>>831596

Watching anime in particular has been known to cause eye cancer

>>831682

>14MB gif

Are you stupid or are you smuggling CP in there?

>>831693

>smuggling CP

>where

hello, my brother-in-dumb

>>831486

I guess you have a point. Never had a need to upload more than that much weekly though.

>>831037

Cocks or Cunts

>>831596

Because you don't get off your fat ass and eat healthy you lazy fuck.

Any video hosting site that has to buy an exorbitant amount of hardware and then have to maintain that hardware on top of that will fail. Google can do that because they are Google, going forward any competitor must think of a distributed solution instead of centralizing all the content. Sure that creates permanence problems, but it's either those or money problems that would grow with the userbase.

>>831028 (OP)

>shutting down

Wasn't reddit: the youtube clone just created half a year ago?

>>832414

It was created back in 2014.

>>832693

Yes but nobody is going to switch because Youtubers only make videos for the money

>>832693

That would go over as well as people uploading normal youtube type content to liveleak and liveleakfags having to see something other than security/cell phone camera footage of people dying.

>>831092

>Google really needs government intervention to split them up, they're much worse than Microsoft ever was.

Not a chance friendo, Google and Facebook are useful tools of the US government, particularly the NSA and CIA. Google has received funding from government agencies in the past, on predictive advertising and in AI related technologies. I'm actually not sure how close Facebook is to the government, but it is part of Prism so Facebook is at least involved with the NSA. Basically, Google and Facebook serve as the right-hand of the deep state, and if the government did split them up it would cripple it's surveillance capabilities, or they would appear split-up as a public face and noting else.

I have a feeling that Amazon, or more specifically Amazon Web Services, will be the next big video hosting platform. Infrastructure as a Service has really taken off in the last 10 years, and AWS is probably the only company that could offer the scalability and bandwidth that could match Youtube, and maybe even operate while running a profit. Although this would only be another step for centralization of the web.

>>832796

No one will ever run a user generated video hosting site and profit from it without charging a monthly fee. It's too much bandwidth. Most importantly, video hosting is extremely poor return on investment in bandwidth. You can serve thousands of pages with ads in the bandwidth it takes someone to watch some stupid ass 10 minute YT video. And that YT video will only get a few ads, if that.

YouTube only exists because it's owned by Google and they couldn't face the public backlash if they shut it down. People can barely make image hosts work, and images are a lot less demanding than videos.

>>832820

>No one will ever run a user generated video hosting site and profit from it without charging a monthly fee.

You're probably right, it also doesn't help that advertisements aren't enough of a revenue stream to cover bandwidth costs. It seem like after all these years of owning Youtube, Google would have developed a sustainable business model for it by now. Barely anyone buys their Youtube Red subscription service, and advertisers are so concerned about what content their ads appear with that the amount of ad revenue they could get is shrinking. It's also kind of funny because Google already has a huge advantage with advertising (Adsense, Analytics, their acquisition of DoubleClick); so how can they hope to salvage ads with Youtube when their own tools can't save them? It seems to me like trying to win over advertisers is not the solution to fix Youtube, or a sustainable practice for any large video hosting site. I can't see why they haven't just made it a dollar-a-month subscription service. Your average mouth-breather would probably throw a fit, but most normal people would kvetch for a week and then not give a shit because watching buzzfeed top 10 list clickbait videos is worth it in their eyes. There wouldn't even be any other service to jump to; people would simply be lost without Youtube. Leave it to the people who actually give a shit and I'm sure some autists will make some decentralized/Youtube/Patreon hybrid so anons can host their own shit and get supported by people who care.

>>831092

>Google really needs government intervention to split them up, they're much worse than Microsoft ever was.

I think when the DOJ got involved with Microsoft, they must have struck a small deal to make most of the problem go away, because shortly after, NSA backdoors started showing up in later versions of Windows.

Google, Apple and Facebook are already in bed with the NSA/CIA/FBI, those stories you hear when they take a stand are just to convince plebs they're not.

>>833150

What is minds?

>>833206

Minds.com

>Can't compete with Google in terms of data storage

Big surprise

>>831041

typical soyboys

yeah that includes those two "girls"

>>831200

yes it will

The conditional now has one less entry.

>>831037

completely open cuckolding

Still ganna point this out.

Pewtube is run by some polish dude who has no infastructure

Bitchute bans you for posting antisemetic crap

D.tube has shitty account creation and uploading requires a phone number

Archive could work buts its prolly shitty too

Time to roll over and die.

>>833291

>PewTube

When will people learn that it's almost fucking impossible to make a video hosting site like YouTube work financialy?

They're essentially relying on people's kindness to fund their operation.

Fucking memesters man.

I think that nothing of value was lost. Why do we need Vid.me when we have BitChute?

>>833518

Minds doesn't look too bad, except for the annoying popups, though obviously you can use an adblocker for that. And as for BitChute banning you for antisemetic crap, why do you feel the need to post such things in the first place? Not all Jews are evil conspirators, just like not all white people are racist. Also, if you like anti-semetism so much, why don't you just seed the torrents of your anti-semetic crap and use a bunch of alts to post it? Use the BitTorrent protocol against them!

>>833582

Nobody blocks anyone from posting anti-white content so why should it work the other way around?

t. another anon

>>833586

Yes, but that doesn't mean that Jews are personally responsible for it. If you tried to post anti-black or anti-Hispanic content, then you'd usually get the same treatment you'd get if you tried to post anti-semitist content. And besides, it's more productive to address this anti-white culture not by acting like a "white supremacist boogie man", but rationally pointing out the double standard, that way the anti-whites have to actually address your argument and you might even get a normie or two to side with you because they won't be afraid of associating themselves with a "white supremacist boogie man".

>>833579

>BitChute

>Free Speech! (except anything we don't like)

>Main page doesn't even fucking load without enabling five different scripts

>No userbase

Anytime "free speech" is used when it comes to businesses or services, they still reserve the right to remove content they don't like. Putting "We support users' free speech" is just a fucking marketing gimmick.

>>833631

Sometimes you need scripts for reasons that have nothing to do with invading others' privacy or anything like that. For instance, I've had to use JQuery in order to show/hide content in a nested list because I couldn't get plain CSS to work for that. If you know of a way to reduce script use in such situations, me and all the other web developers/web designers out there would love to hear it.

BitChute may have a small userbase for now, but it is quickly growing.

Other than that, you do have a point, but that's just human nature; people naturally prefer to associate with those who think most like them, and discriminate against those who don't. I don't think there's anything you, I, or anyone else can do about that, except go with the flow, because let's be honest here: everyone has that bias to some extent.

>>833657

I should have elaborated more - the scripting bothers me with BitChute because the site simply doesn't work in any capacity without it, and that's just another drop in the bucket when it comes to modern websites having total dependency on javascript. I think javascript is great; it gives the web a great deal of flexibility in what applications and websites can do. Javascript is supported in every major browser, and for all it's flaws it has become a standard in web development, with no viable competition, which I think is dangerous.

>but that's just human nature

Wasn't really trying to make a point on human nature; just that when businesses and services say they respect their users' right to free speech they do not guarantee that right, unlike a government. If you agree to their terms and conditions, that gives them the right to do what they please with your content on their platform. Any "free speech" touted by a service is most likely lying to you, so it's not really a plus for bitchute as a platform.

>>833683

I also dislike how dependent upon JavaScript that the web is, and feel like alot of JavaScript's capabilities should just be baked into HTML and/or CSS. I hear that there has been some attempts to do so with HTML5, and although that is a step in the right direction, it's not still sufficient yet.

Oh, ok. Well, you might be able to sue them for false advertising. Though, terms of service are usually made to prevent things like that, so it's a bit of a shit sandwich... To get around this, we'd need a whole new level of decentralization, like a new video hosting service run by volunteers, where anyone could volunteer, and the terms of service say that the hosts are not responsible for any of the content there. IPFS or LBRY might be a good place to start with that.

>>833363

>freetard

>>833391

<mUH APIS

Who fucking cares?

>>833582

>>833609

Fuck off kike.

>>831148

PeerTube

>>833865

mediagoblin is one of the best alternatives for media hosting, at least for sharing content

fuck off kike

>>833865

Lol, everyone you don't like or disagree with is automatically a Jew, just like how everyone a feminist doesn't like or disagrees with is automatically a nazi.

>>833941

The technical aspect of hosting multimedia is easy - you simply upload your files to an Internet host. The hard part is presenting a useful web interface for the media that you're hosting. This is the part of Mediagoblin. The purpose of Mediagoblin is to allow the website visitors a way to access and manage the media on the website.

>>833876

>posting obese pedophile jew as if that's an argument

>>833907

>programming APIs are services

>>833941

>shit nobody uses is the best thing

>>833962

>muh whore shoe theory

>capitalizing "jew"

>>>/oven/

>>834344

You are why people hate /pol/ outside of /pol/.

>>834352

You sound Jewish.

>>834344

>calling others jew

>is pro jewgle api

>replies to everyone in the thread

You're not fitting in.

>>831041

WHO IS THE ASIAN QT?

>>833391

>year of our lord 2017

>tinymce

Jesus. The last time I saw that was 2008 on a shitty PHP site.

>>832693

>open page

>literally jimbo e-begging

>close page

>>831192

>Better not

>Not preferring she (male) to be a trap

Bad taste my man

>>831341

you could sincerely ask that about half of the guys

>>831028 (OP)

May have done better if they didn't cuck out.

On the other hand a lot of their userbase are the people smart enough to use adblock so maybe that shit didn't work out for a reason.

>>839893

>we should be involved in every war possible

When did he say that?

>>839948

Styx seems to be a real liberal. he is not a communist. Which means he is a evil fascist nazi.

>>831033

>he didn't see it coming years ago

MEGA should make a tube site

>>831028 (OP)

>yid.me

Who gives a shit? They were already showing sings of the same kind of bullshit soft censorship than youtube

>>831058

Worked for Trump

never heard of it and that logo is fugly

>>833150

If the shitcoin faggots can inject mining scripts into every goddamn website, how hard would it be to make .js that ran webtorrent shit on every normalfag's devices

>>839973

Not actually a bad idea, but wasn't there a hostile chinese takeover of mega?

jews did it

>>831041

It's like a parody of that 'poor little white guy' porno.