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Post about free and open source applications and tools for making art and photo editing
▶ No.828043>>828050 >>835040
Anyone used Mypaint recently? How's it compare to Krita?
▶ No.828050>>828056
>>828043
Thanks for sharing. I just tried it and like it way more than Krita.
▶ No.828056
>>828050
Mypaint is lighter than Krita, but it doesn't have as many features. CYMK support, for example.
▶ No.828067>>828369
>photo editing
All we really have there is Darktable, right? Does the job, but the controls are kinda small on a laptop.
▶ No.828083
Apparently Rawtherapee had an update and it's pretty good now.
▶ No.828100>>828112 >>828165 >>828790
How has GIMP not been mentioned yet, it's one of the best out there.
▶ No.828104>>828114
>>828036 (OP)
How bad is GIMP, really? I've recently had the ambition to become an amateur drawfag and don't know a lot about the software used.
▶ No.828112>>828116 >>828390 >>828764 >>828791
>>828100
Maybe it's because GIMP is unironically one of the worst examples of free software in general and it's one of the programs that give FOSS a bad name and if you like it it probably means you hate the free software community for holding it to such low fucking standards?
One of the worst software tools ever and if I didn't know there were better FOSS image editors out there I would seriously think you'd be nuts to want to use GNU/Linux for fucking any kind of creative application.
It's clear to me though that you never actually edit images based on the webm you posted implying creating circles is an impressive feat so I don't know why you're even here. GIMPs transform tools are seriously an embarrassment. Especially since image transformation is really supposed to be the tools primary job. The only reason people use GIMP is because it's installed by default on many distros. It is literally the MSPaint of GNU/Linux
▶ No.828114>>828125
>>828104
GIMP isn't primarily a drawings tool. As the name implies it's supposed to be a replacement for Photoshop. Yes, you CAN use GIMP to draw like how you can use Photoshop to draw. But there are much better tools for the job. Krita is primarily a drawing tool
▶ No.828116>>828118 >>828325 >>843226
>>828112
>implying creating circles is an impressive feat
It's joke from how people say it's impossible to draw a circle in GIMP.
You say GIMP is a bad program, but I don't see very many problems with it other than not being able to do math in the number fields and having awkward hotkeys.
GIMP comes with plenty of tools, has great support for layers, and has great filter / generators. The user interface is laid out very intuitively and looks nice.
▶ No.828118>>828120 >>828136
>>828116
Its image transform tools are just so bad compared to Photoshop and it sucks because I don't think there are any other programs for GNU/Linux either actually good transform tools. Sorry for my ranty walls of text. I just have PTSD still from having to use this shit
▶ No.828120>>828325
>>828118
I'm not sure I get what you mean about the transform tools being bad. I've never run into an issues with them.
I drew pic related and then rotated it a few times. Even rotations which were not perfect 90 degree angles looked great.
▶ No.828125
>>828114
No, I know that. I just thought that drawfags used it to touch things up, or is that all included in Krita? Because that might make things easier. I don't own a tablet yet, so I'm just doing things on paper. What is a good one for GNU/Linux?
▶ No.828131>>828310
Does LibreOffice Draw count?
▶ No.828136
>>828118
>teh image transform tools are shit
<why, how, back up your argument etc
>there just shit!!!!!!!!!!111 WORST FOSS EDITER EVER xD
<what foss tool would you recommend
>PHOTOSHOP xD
▶ No.828161>>828205
How is the GIMP's GTK3 port coming?
▶ No.828163>>828241 >>828303
Photoshop is still the best.
▶ No.828165>>828169
>>828100
Gimp is an image manipulator.
It's not really an artfag program.
▶ No.828169
>>828165
Art isn't just painting, anon.
▶ No.828205
>>828161
The GTK3 port compiles and appears to work at least for some users. They are in the process of doing a complete code audit to port it to GTK3. No completion estimations are available at the moment.
▶ No.828241
>>828163
Based Pajeets renting software at an affordable price.
▶ No.828303
>>828163
Shame it's proprietary SAAS.
▶ No.828325>>828330
>>828116
>You say GIMP is a bad program
thats because it is.
>>828120
>I'm not sure I get what you mean about the transform tools being bad.
They are bad. Krita does a better job
▶ No.828330>>828363
>>828325
>They are bad.
not an argument
▶ No.828352
>>828310
tyson is a nice guy
▶ No.828363>>828385
>>828330
neither is being impressed by being able to rotate something, that even MSpaint can do. gimpfag. Everything Gimp can do for transforming Krita does better with more options, even if the features were identical (which they are not) Krita would still be better because Gimps tools all run like complete ass. While Krita is powered by a better engine that's not coded by a retard and supports modern OpenGL and OpenCL so it runs at real time. I use photoshop but there's no reason to ever use Gimp other than masochism and if you recommend it then you are a complete faggot.
▶ No.828364>>828908
>>828310
Anyone got a link to the OC package he mentioned?
▶ No.828369>>829288
>>828067
Rawtherapee is gud. But the interface isn't a clone of Lightroom.
▶ No.828385>>828405
>>828363
GIMP's tools run in real time too. I can rotate images, colorize them, and tweak brightness / contrast all in real time. Maybe you are thinking of the filters? Some of the filters do not run in real time, but they usually offer a preview window that does.
▶ No.828390
>>828112
>It's clear to me though that you never actually edit images based on the webm you posted implying creating circles is an impressive feat so I don't know why you're even here.
It's clear to me that you simply looked at GIMP's UI and noped back to whatever program you're using now.
You don't even seem to know anything about GIMP at all, in actuality, and simply criticize it out of spite.
▶ No.828405>>828408
>>828385
>muh rotate colorize and brightness
>real time
Who gives a shit. Also Gimp wasnt even close to doing full screen edits in real time, it has a visible redraw lag as it updates the picture. Gimp is just trash, any of the advanced transformations like Warp or Cage that was added much later and sucks compared to Krita's transforms. Outside of the extreme basics there's a better option for anyone else, and the poor excuse for the UI alone is a prime example of being a piece of shit with an overcrowded, un-intuitive clusterfuck example of the worst of FOSS and reason enough never to recommend it. Its only there for people who hate themselves.
Gimp has always been the laughing stock of image editing and the updates over the years barely do anything at all, it's still shit tier. Krita is new and being quickly developed with major changes every big update that make me check up on it to see if I'll make the switch from Photoshop. One of the photoshop's pioneer features was Liquify which I use often to tweak things and Gimp's "comparison" with IWarp is an absolute joke, you can't even zoom in or see the size of the area you are effecting. It's insulting how bad Gimp is.
▶ No.828408>>828417 >>828427 >>828474
>>828405
>has a visible redraw lag as it updates the picture
This is true, but it is only the display that is being delayed. The actual image has already been manipulated.
>Warp
I think the warp tool was redone or something recently
>advanced transformations
I haven't really messed with them much. They seem like a novelty feature just for fun.
>poor excuse for the UI
What is an objective problem with the UI. I personally don't see any major problems with it.
>laughing stock
What's funny about it?
>Krita
To be honest, I haven't messed around too much with it, but regardless GIMP is still a good application.
▶ No.828417>>828444
>>828408
Its funny because of how pitifully slow and behind Gimp has always been so far behind everyone else. Photoshop has had multicore capability since fucking CS and gimp just now starts trying to add and still cant get it right.
This is like if someone gave made really good fresh cookies but then decided to market it and charged for it (Adobe) but then someone who loved Adobe's cookies for years but felt like something was missing gave it out for free with their own blend (Krita) but then there's Gimp who thought that stale cookies were just as good because it's the same kind of idea. And fags like you who keep telling people stale cookies are great as you shovel it into your mouth. At least they are trying, but it's still shit.
▶ No.828427>>828430
>>828408
>What is an objective problem with the UI. I personally don't see any major problems with it.
One tab taking up a good amount of real estate. That's been my personal gripe.
▶ No.828430
>>828427
CSD to the rescue!
▶ No.828444>>828469
>>828417
>Photoshop has had multicore capability since fucking CS and gimp just now starts trying to add and still cant get it right.
You can't just duct-tape on multithreading and expect it to work. There's probably fuck-all assumptions in the code. Sometimes, it would be easier to rewrite a piece of code then to make such a drastic change to it: people will always go for the drastic change, however.
▶ No.828446
Is Krita literally the only thing that supports CMYK?
▶ No.828469>>828470 >>828785 >>842973 >>843319
>>828444
not the point. Gimp is just a meme program for normalfags who are too much of a pussy to pirate, and retards that think a polygonal wheel is acceptable because it can get you to the same destination, just not smoothly. There's absolutely nothing that Gimp does well that another one can't do better. I'm fairly sure Sai doesn't have multithreading but its extremely light and fast already while Gimp is a beached whale.
Krita had multithreading in 2009. Gimp is just now trying to do something that makes their program not complete torture that pic is from the 2017 blog.
It's too late it's already been surpassed by another FOSS and there's no reason to use it for any reason anymore. Maybe before Krita things were a lot bleaker, not to mention there's very cheap and new art software like PaintStorm, so there's really no excuse to keep being a gimpfaggot in CY+2.
▶ No.828470>>828471
>>828469
It's like you don't even understand that image manipulators and illustrators are different tools with different use cases with only a minimal amount of overlap.
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▶ No.828473>>828474
>>828471
No. It was an observation.
▶ No.828474>>828508 >>828519 >>828674
>>828473
>Photoshop excells at image creation and manipulation
>Sai has a good blending engine
>Inkscape is good for vectors if you cant hack Illustrator
>Mischief has an unlimited canvas and full vector support
<Gimp is sup par at everything especially for art, which is the thread topic.
>Krita does many things well like photoshop
<Hurrdurr you dont understand they're seperate tools xddd
Try again Gimpnigger. Better yet go kill yourself. You have about as much intelligence as someone arguing that Photoshop cant be used to paint with because its an image editor while it remains the standard for the pro industry.
>>828408
>advanced control
>novelty feature just for fun.
Plebeian novice detected. No wonder you're satisfied with taking all of Gimp's cock in your ass.
▶ No.828478>>828671
>>828471
You wanna know how I know you spend most of your time on /g/?
▶ No.828508>>828671
>>828474
You see this kids? This is the kind of autistic faggot who likes killing threads. Probably got banned from /g/ and figured he'd try spreading his cancer here.
▶ No.828519>>828671
>>828474
You are trying way-way WAY too the fuck hard to fit in.
▶ No.828551>>828577 >>828581 >>839634
Why has no one mentioned Blender 3d? It is the best open source project out there.
▶ No.828577>>828580
>>828551
>Blender
Best video editor we have for Linux atm.
▶ No.828580>>828783
>>828577
Besides the obvious answer of "just fucking try it yourself", how does it compare to Kdenlive?
▶ No.828581>>828614 >>828660 >>828671
>>828551
>blender
>good
The only thing blender's good at is as an example of horrible, different for the sake of being different, UI and usability.
Every time someone bitches about Gimp being complicated to use, you just know they never suffered through the shit that is blender
▶ No.828583
I bet you faggots don't even imagej.
▶ No.828584
How is krita with animation?
▶ No.828614>>828671
>>828581
What a stupid brainlet
▶ No.828660
>>828581
>I don't want to learn how to use another software, I want all software working in the same way likes intend to not be able to leave them. Never.
▶ No.828665
anyone got infos about that krita data collection?
▶ No.828671>>828993
>>828519
>>828508
>>828478
<Oh shit I have no arguments, better samefag and call him a /g/ crossboarder
<telling people why Gimp is shit for art is a derail
Go back to reddit or /leftypol/
>>828581
Please nigger, if you want complicated then try Maya. There's nothing wrong with Blender, it's on more even ground with 3dMax then Gimp compared to Photoshop will ever be. Every artfag should familiarize themselves with 3d if they can, it will only make your drawings better. Try sketchup's free version, really easy results and fast to learn.
>>828614
>cuckchan meme
▶ No.828674>>828701 >>835489
>>828474
>muh pro standard
>muh pro industry
>muh novice detected
Lmao, tell me more about your work or better yet post them here. You suck and NGMI. You sound like a salty artist and frequent /ic/ trash. Maybe try photography and fashion because you'll end up in there anyway. I can read your personality like an open book.
▶ No.828701>>828762
>>828674
>Lmao
>>>/reddit/
<Bashing on a medium like photography instead of using it as a means to self teach yourself composition
Not going to make it.
▶ No.828762
>>828701
> He thinks lmao is from reddit.
> Uses >>reddit as an argument.
> He then shrieks, "You have no argument.", and "You are projecting." when people call him a retard.
Lmao, you are a projecting retard with no argument.
▶ No.828764>>828785
>>828112
>1.) Gimp is bad because it is bad.
>2.) It is bad because it gives FOSS a bad name because it's bad.
>3.) Gimp is bad because if you like it, you hate the FOSS community. (This makes sense to a retard lol).
>4.) Gimp is bad because it's the worst software ever.
>5.) Gimp is bad because if you use it you never actually edit images.
Critism with no substance, and vague shit, nothing more than namecalling, that could apply to every program ever made. This same person unironically accuses other people of having no argument. How embarassing.
▶ No.828783
>>828580
It's much more powerful, and stable too, but it has a much more steep learning curve.
▶ No.828785>>836642 >>843319
>>828764
there is 3 things I don't like about GIMP v2.9.6:
1) lack of cmyk support
2) lack of simple macro recording
3) the flat and colorless ui and the font effects on inactive menu text
for most editing I switched to GIMP from Photoshop and Paint.NET so i don't have to remove metadata with a separate application every time
>>828469
>too much of a pussy to pirate
I am using GIMP on my pirated windows
▶ No.828786
Any good ones for doing some trippy shit? I'm interested in creating some psychedelic reconstructions, but that shit is a pain to animate properly.
▶ No.828790>>828799 >>843226
>>828100
Wait how did he do the second circle?
I only saw him highlight the select menu.
▶ No.828791
>>828112
All that unnecessary salt.
▶ No.828799>>843226
>>828790
>Wait how did he do the second circle?
Select->Border
▶ No.828808>>828905
>>828310
What the fuck is this?
▶ No.828905>>828929
>>828808
Long story short:
Tyson Tan is an artist who draws mascots for FOSS software suites, for free.
Spends considerable time creating a mascot for LibreOffice as an entry into their mascot competition.
Other mascots include literal clip art, everyone seems sure Tyson's will win.
LO changes rules midway into competition that disqualifies his mascot with no warning.
Massive shit storm brews, eventually competition is scrapped.
A bunch of artfags here sympathize with Tyson, draw a bunch of art featuring his mascot and send him a tarball with the pics.
Tyson is touched, reveals that other artists have been giving him shit for basically handing out quality art for no cost and that the experience opened up old wounds.
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▶ No.828929>>828934
>>828905
>Tyson is touched, reveals that other artists have been giving him shit for basically handing out quality art for no cost.
When did the artfag community become so jewish?
▶ No.828930
>>828908
Gracias. Wait... I think I know the fag that put this together.
▶ No.828934>>828959 >>829251 >>834848 >>835631
>>828929
Commission prices can net an artist a crazy amount of cash, especially if they have a fanbase to cater to.
Tyson has an interest in drawing anthropomorphic animals, and that market is a mess. Him giving out free art is making other artists worry that people will go to him for a character rather than commission one of them.
▶ No.828959>>828971
>>828934
I hope you're just playing jew's advocate there, anon.
▶ No.828962
>>828036 (OP)
unfortunately for me, alot ofthe freeware and even pirated japware doesn't go well with my cintiq+extended displays so I just use a pirated adobe photoshop CC with the cloud component ripped out.
▶ No.828971>>828972
>>828959
No, I think it's wrong of other artists to bash another just because A.) his art is good and B.) he does it for free.
I'm just trying to say why they wouldn't like him for doing what he does. I hope Tyson doesn't stop making free art, especially since he does it for the art alone and asks nothing in return.
▶ No.828972>>829013
>>828971
This is why alot of arts people are commies and dramafags.
They hate the free market because of people like Tyson doing superior work for lower/no cost.
▶ No.828993
>>828671
>try a non-libre program that isn't natively available on GNU/Linux
Please leave the thread
▶ No.829013>>829017
>>828972
>guy handing out gibs
>not communist
>people optimizing profits by demanding high prices on cheaply created shit
>communist
Okay
▶ No.829014>>832166
A question to Anons. Do you embed copyright notice and license in your artwork? If so then do you embed a link to the license or the whole license itself?
▶ No.829017
>>829013
Nobody ever said these people make any sense, that's just the way they go about their daily lives.
▶ No.829227>>829380 >>835178
>GIMP
>(((Krita)))
>Mypaint
>Inkscape
All are trash and bloated shitware! All you need is Tux Paint.
▶ No.829243>>829291
Anyone with real photography experience have an opinion of Darktable vs Rawtherapee? The only thing holding me back from DT is that there's no Windows version I can recommend to people.
▶ No.829251>>829289 >>829421
>>828934
>Tyson has an interest in drawing anthropomorphic animals, and that market is a mess. Him giving out free art is making other artists worry that people will go to him for a character rather than commission one of them.
That's so retarded, he is designing mascots for FLOSS projects because that's his way of giving back for the free software he received. It's not like he is giving out free commissions to just anyone.
▶ No.829288>>829290
>>828369
Does the interface require a supercomputer to run like Lightroom?
▶ No.829289
>>829251
He also had artists giving him shit for making mascots for smaller projects.
▶ No.829290
>>829288
Runs alright on my 8350 box.
▶ No.829291>>829301
>>829243
The problem I had with the open sores ones was the raw processing was shitty. There are a billion vendor-specific hacks in raw files and Adobe did a pretty good job at.. well, paying Canon/Nikon programmers. I had issues with stuck pixel removal, dark frames (astronomy), and uglier color reproduction than Lightroom, which is already ugly compared to Canon's horrible tools.
▶ No.829301>>829313
>>829291
You do kinda have to make sure your camera is well-supported, since it IS a reverse-engineering effort in some cases. If they are though, not a lot of reason to use Lightroom
▶ No.829313
>>829301
> it IS a reverse-engineering effort
Details?
▶ No.829314>>829681 >>829695
It's a fucking sin that nobody mentioned G'MIC:
http://gmic.eu/
▶ No.829380
>>829227
finally, a voice of reason.
▶ No.829414>>829451 >>829469 >>830731 >>833808
What about Linux support for artfag hardware? Is pic related the best cheap drawing tablet that just werks?
▶ No.829421>>829428 >>829466
>>829251
It makes me mad at the other artists, they'd charge an arm and a leg for this level of art and for some reason they feel threatened when someone like Tyson does it for free. Tyson does it to give back and because he enjoys drawing.
▶ No.829428>>829666
>>829421
And he only does it for FOSS projects, which I bet most for those faggots don't even understand about.
▶ No.829451>>830146
>>829414
Not an artfag but I think Tyson said to avoid the Bamboo shit because of input lag.
▶ No.829466
>>829421
Tyson is pretty talented, but it's not like any of the free stuff he does is even lewd. I don't understand how furry artists would see him as devaluing their degenerate smut.
▶ No.829469>>833754
>>829414
I have that tablet. Frankly, you should get the bigger one; don't draw with your wrist, draw with your whole arm. It's worth the investment, just like getting a good chair, your body is worth that much. The drivers are perfectly functional. Pressure sensitivity and everything. As for configuration, that really depends on the software itself. Gimp and Krita both let you define more specific settings for the tablet in their own settings dialog. Presumably, KDE has something that's let you configure it globally, but I've never tried.
▶ No.829471
>>828036 (OP)
<apt-get
<NOT PURGE
AAAAAAAA
▶ No.829666>>829758
>>829428
Honestly, this is design work for projects, how this is supposed to devalue degeneracy commissions that are
>private work
>pre-designed characters
>mostly porn
If you'll ask Tyson to draw your hermtaur OC for free he'll probably say no. This has no impact on other artists.
▶ No.829681>>829695
>>829314
g'mic is already supported by krita and it's just a filter engine, cant do any art on its own.
▶ No.829695
>>829314
>>829681
Funnily enough I've recently heard people talking about forking gmic, because gmic's author is a cool scientist but he's not very cooperative when it comes to software development. For example, people have been asking him many times to write meaningful commit messages and he just replies with "I understand you frustration" and goes on.
▶ No.829758
>>829666
Apparently, the Judaism is so pervasive in the furfag community, it really doesn't matter that he's not directly effecting their profits. YOU DO NOT WORK FOR FREE! Especially if you're good.
▶ No.829763>>829766
>>828036 (OP)
>using apt-get
>using apt at all
▶ No.829766
>>829763
did he have a hive of bees sting all over his face?
polite sage for offtopic
▶ No.830105>>830140 >>830141 >>831893
So flatpak has basically won.
▶ No.830140>>830162
>>830105
So what's the difference between flatpak and appimage? They all seem like containers of some kind like docker or snap to me.
▶ No.830141>>830145 >>830162
>>830105
Never heard of this flatpak shit except on this board. If I need a program, I get it from OS package system, or just download source tarball.
▶ No.830145>>830155 >>830346
>>830141
It's pretty much made for proprietary software, but they don't tell you that. They want to bring "App Stores" to GNU/Linux.
▶ No.830146
>>829451
>bamboo
>input lag
What?
▶ No.830155
>>830145
Linux already operates on an "app store" mentality more than fucking Windows does. Almost all windows software is intended to be downloaded from the independent source of the program itself, not some centralized directories.
▶ No.830162>>830224 >>830254 >>835320
>>830140
AppImage is not a container, it's just a folder turned into an executable. It's no different from tarball with binaries except in a more convenient form.
Flatpak and Snappy are containerized and also are package managers to a degree I think. Snappy is fully controlled by Canonical though, and hard depends on systemd (dunno about flatpak). Snappy winning would basically mean Canonical's monopoly on this.
>>830141
>If I need a program, I get it from OS package system, or just download source tarball.
It's almost like you've never actually built anything from source. Software might depend on libraries that aren't even in your distro, or may depend on libraries configured the way your distro doesn't support (e.g. in abi-breaking way). Not to mention that anyone who installs software from sources via "make install" instead of building a package (which is also extra work) is a moron because it leaves untracked cruft in your system that may bite you in the ass later (e.g. some program might clobber your system libraries with some other versions).
▶ No.830224
>>830162
>(e.g. some program might clobber your system libraries with some other versions)
Nigger, have you ever built anything from source? What do you think /usr/local/* is for?
▶ No.830254
>>830162
So what, I can build those libraries too if my package system doesn't have them. I've done it before, and will most likely have to do it again someday. It's just not that big of a deal for me. I spent years meditating at the temple of Slackware. I know ./configure technique, I know make technique, and my style is flawless.
Anyway, for keeping your own stuff separate, there's been solutions for a long time now. I use the one called stow. It's easy, you can learn how to use it in 5 minutes flat.
▶ No.830346
>>830145
F/OSS also benefits. Especially for those who like to stick to LTS distos. Handy to be able to use an up to day Krita or Kdenlive without PPA fuckery.
▶ No.830731>>831111
>>829414
Works perfectly fine out of the box
▶ No.831111
>>830731
Doesn't quite in Ubuntu 17.10. It mostly works, but the buttons are all mixed up in the Gnome Wacom config tool.
▶ No.831893>>834601
>>830105
Do Flatpaks work with themes yet?
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▶ No.832093>>832122
>>832091
I think it's specifically for animation, be it vector or raster "cutout" style
▶ No.832122>>832168 >>832190 >>832377 >>832426
>>832093
Animation is art too. Why has nobody brought up OpenToonz?
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▶ No.832168
>>832122
I like OpenToonz, but I prefer TVPaint. But that's only because I've been using TVPaint since it was called Mirage back when Jesus was born. OpenToonz's UI is still something I have to learn to understand before I can switch over. I just don't have the time.
▶ No.832190>>832716
>>832122
Wasn't there some kind of problem with the License and the EULA?
▶ No.832377>>832387 >>832393
>>832122
Toonz is a convoluted piece of crap with an UI from the neolithic ages.
▶ No.832387>>834948
>>832377
What do you recommend for someone doing conventional animation?
▶ No.832393
>>832377
That's true of basically all animation and video editing software.
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>>832122
The nature of this kinda software, unfortunately, lends itself to convoluted and confusing interfaces. Things haven't really gotten any better with more recent software either. Open Toonz is different, but it's really not much worse than the alternatives.
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▶ No.833754
>>829469
>Frankly, you should get the bigger one
I've read bigger tablets aren't worth the investment because you just end up using a small portion of it anyway because you end up just drawing relative to your screen/canvas size.
▶ No.833773>>833936
I haven't really looked through it but I wonder if there is a way to paint using farbfeld utils:
http://zzo38computer.org/fossil/farbfeld.ui/wiki?name=Documentation
I might look into this when I get back from finals could be neat.
▶ No.833808
>>829414
I'd like to know about Huion Tablet support as well. I'm kinda wantingo to get one, as they're cheap as hell.
▶ No.833850
I'm looking to dive into drawing using only free/libre software and using Krita and WACOM tablet to learn on.
On that note, does anyone here know about David Revoy and his comic Pepper and Carrot? It's a webcomic supported entirely by donors and uses only free/libre software and tools. It's actually pretty cute and fun.
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▶ No.834601
>>831893
Yes, but it's a bit of a hack. Either you can manually install a theme as a flatpak, or the flatpak can auto install the theme you are using for you.
▶ No.834667>>834671 >>834830 >>834961
All of you Krita naysayers are missing the main point. What other awesome, open-sauce painting program out there is so furry friendly? Pfft. Not having Krita on your box is like hating cute puppies -- it's just wrong.
▶ No.834671>>834790
>>834667
Kiki is a fairly marketable mascot, furriness aside.
▶ No.834790
>>834671
>furriness aside
Nigger absolute majority of mascots that aren't inanimate objects with eyes are cuddly furry animals.
▶ No.834830>>835063 >>837403
>>834667
I want to hug Kiki.
▶ No.834848
>>828934
I'm thinking of buying a bunch of Tyson's posters and a mouse pad and donating to Krita. Fuck those assholes for giving him shit.
▶ No.834948
>>832387
I'm no an animator but the only software that I know about animation are Pencil and synfig studio.
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▶ No.835040>>835062
>>828043
I used Mypaint in the prehistoric era with good results. I'll check it out again since Krita is as powerful as its UI is unfriendly.
▶ No.835062
>>835040
Krita is more powerful than Mypaint, but if you don't need the extra features, or CMYK, Mypaint does a fine job.
▶ No.835117>>835154 >>835318 >>839793
Why doesn't Mypaint get more attention? This is actually a pretty alright drawing app.
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▶ No.835176
This seems like a good place for OC.
▶ No.835178
>>829227
>Tux Paint
That hasn't been updated in more than half a decade though.
▶ No.835179>>842146
what to use as digital audio workstation?
I know so far
Bitwig
Lmms
Reaper
anything else?
▶ No.835318>>838416
>>835117
Same reason Rawtherapee doen't get as much attention as Darktable. Krita has kinda sucked all the oxygen out of the room, mindshare-wise.
▶ No.835320>>835370
>>830162
Flatpak remove systemd as a dep a while ago.
▶ No.835370
>>835320
Flatpak is probably going to "win" out over Snap. AppImage is different enough that it serves a slightly different function. Mainly, testing alpha & beta software more conveniently than either Flatpak or Snaps allow.
▶ No.835437>>835477 >>835498 >>835539 >>835609 >>835610 >>835640 >>836646
Just use Photoshop!
Photoshop is a REAL industry standard and it's used the world over.
Krita's mascot is stupid. Kiki? She's a squirrel! Just dumb.
And she lets others peek at her source code for pleasure and money. What a slut! She's probably had tens of thousands inside her day and night, even little boys and girls I bet!(gross)
Meanwhile, Photoshop has things locked down like a pure god fearing nun. Ain't nobody going to screw with your program on Adobe's watch! And it's guaranteed to make you successful! You want to make money and not support disgusting furriness, don't you?!
It's just a joke.
▶ No.835477
>>835437
This tbh, freetards are kidding themselves.
▶ No.835489
>>828674
Ebola-chan is my waifu!
▶ No.835498
>>835437
This,
except without the irony of a weeabo freetard in denial.
▶ No.835539
>>835437
>being autistic enough that you have to label what is obviously a joke as a joke
>>>/reddit/
▶ No.835610
>>835437
>She's a squirrel
Yes. Yes she is.
▶ No.835631
>>828934
Which maybe why Tyson had to clarify that he only does free work for FLOSS projects. I assume he might have also been trying to pacify these assholes.
▶ No.835640>>836229
>>835437
I know it's a joke and all but some basic tools like free transformation is million times better in Krita then they are in Photoshop.
▶ No.836229>>836358
>>835640
wrong.
kritas free transform blows. Photoshop lets you skew, scale and distort all by just grabbing the handles with modifier keys, and you can transform without any key shortcuts needed. Krita slows this to a crawl by having to select the transform tool, then use the shortcut, then select the tab for tool options, then select the transform mode. Complete shit for productivity , when will freetards learn?
▶ No.836342
>>836340
Officially, I mean.
▶ No.836358
>>836229
It's even worse for people who have memory issues, and are simply unable to memorize yet another set of required arbitrary shortcuts for a program they only use occasionally.
Blender can go to hell
▶ No.836642
>>828785
>1) lack of cmyk support
CMYK support or simply import of photoshop files?
Full support, not yet (though there is some internal support for CMYKA already). But then, what it allows that can't be done in RGBA?
Import/export - there are plugins. GIMP is all about plugins and scripts. Separate and Separate+ for Tiff.
imagemagick can convert CMYK psd to RGBA png. XnView probably can do it too. In batches.
>2) lack of simple macro recording
Okay, good point.
On the upside, between script-fu and Python-fu, if you have a clear idea of what you want, it probably can be easily automated - even without studying its quirks in details, just open help and RTFM on. Or ask someone who already does it, there are forums about GIMP scripting. Search engines still exist, and all that.
>3) the flat and colorless ui and the font effects on inactive menu text
Seriously? GUI that does not look like a Christmas tree is a disadvantage?
Well, if you want to change Look&Feel, GIMP supports themes. Though I never actually messed with them, because default + small are good enough.
▶ No.836646>>836656
>>835437
>20 bucks a month for something you won't even own
▶ No.836656>>836660 >>837819
>>836646
You know, I have no problem with paying a regular fee for a service. But they are not even providing any service for that money. Their only "service" would be to prevent me from using my own computer as I see fit. What a deal!
▶ No.836660
>>836656
That's the key point about desktop SaaS products: you're not paying a regular fee for a service, you're paying a regular fee for a product. You never buy the software, you just rent it. Pic.
▶ No.837403>>837408 >>837885
>>834830
I want to smooch Kiki.
▶ No.837441>>837570
>>837408
Well then I'd snuggle that big bushy tail of hers.
▶ No.837570>>837777
>>837441
As I pound her furry pu-
▶ No.837796
>>837777
It's a weird thing to do, but holy quads confirm.
▶ No.837819>>837826
>>836656
> But they are not even providing any service for that money.
Actually there is some service available if you buy 5000$ per month h24 7/7 support
▶ No.837826
>>837819
And what kind of service can 5000 freedom credits buy you?
▶ No.837885>>837931
>>837403
I want to get good enough to paint Kiki
▶ No.837931>>837935
>>837885
Get a cheap Wacom tablet and DL Mypaint.
▶ No.837935>>837944
>>837931
I feel like starting with pencil and paper instead of a $200 tablet would be better.
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▶ No.837944
>>837935
You can get Intuos tablets for 60 and under, but I still get your point.
▶ No.838416
>>835318
There is also the fact that Mypaint follows a lot of GNOME conventions. Which are pretty alien outside of Gnome.
▶ No.838450>>838493 >>838505
>>838445
THEY TOOK THE PEPPER BRUSH OUT OF 2.9!!!!
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▶ No.838453
>>836340
And now Linux is even more useless.
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▶ No.838505>>838544
>>838450
There's literally no reason to use GIMP now. Why does it even exist?
▶ No.838544>>838554
>>838505
>>838493
Relax. You can still use it if you look under 'legacy' in the brushes menu.
▶ No.838554
>>838544
>no pepper hanging from the string
Leave it to the drawfaggot to have no imagination
▶ No.839263>>839264
Since he's tangentially related to the topic, I thought I'd mention David Revoy has released a new Pepper & Carrot comic:
https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/article433/episode-24-the-unity-tree
▶ No.839264>>839267
>>839263
Read it last night. God, I'm glad I donated now.
▶ No.839267>>839268
>>839264
His art is top fucking notch, but he needs to get help on his English translations.
▶ No.839268>>839376
>>839267
Lots of good reaction images in this one.
▶ No.839376>>839400 >>839438
>>839268
Ok, I've looked and I am finding NO R34 of this. What the hell?
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▶ No.839415
>>839400
>good
Anon, there is a literal hole in the internet.
▶ No.839438>>839443
>>839376
FOSS OS has no software. FOSS comic has no R34. It's like pottery.
▶ No.839443
>>839438
This bait is of poor quality.
▶ No.839450>>839726
>>839400
I agree. P&C aren't for lewding
▶ No.839574>>839635 >>839715 >>839717
/tech/-approved freedom drawing tablet.
▶ No.839634
>>828551
Blender is amazing. Once the Blender 101 project is up all the babbys may stop crying tbh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN0zPOpADL4
▶ No.839635>>839637
>>839574
Mad skills. Draw Miku-chan tbh.
▶ No.839637
>>839635
That's not me. It's from a /v/ thread with etch-a-sketch reproductions of random pictures.
▶ No.839664>>839723
>Mypaint better than Krita
So there's a way to disable that retarded behaviour in Mypaint of undo based on time rather than individual strokes?
▶ No.839715
>>839574
/tech/ approved mascot, if nothing else.
▶ No.839717
>>839574
I'll just add that to Tyson's archive. Ya could have posted this in the LMG too, yknow.
▶ No.839723
>>839664
It's not better per se; it's just a lot simpler and lighter on resources. If you don't need CYMK, or the extra features Krita has, you can get on with Mypaint fine. It also runs better on low-powered hardware. Mypaint is the Budgie to Krita's KDE, basically.
▶ No.839726>>839784
>>839450
David has done simi lewd stuff of them in the comics.
▶ No.839784
>>839726
Only of that smug bitch Saffron from what I've seen. Shichimi is the best witch.
▶ No.839793>>839809
>>835117
post the full image, anon? i want it
▶ No.839951
How active is Mypaint development?
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▶ No.841197>>842082
In case anyone was wondering, Krita is basically unusable witn Intel graphics on FreeBSD/TrueOS. Mypaint, on the other hand, works pretty well.
▶ No.842082
>>841197
FreeBSD's gpu support is total shit outside of Nvidia, so that's not really much of a surprise.
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▶ No.842973
>>828469
For most of what I do image wise Gimp seems to get the job done just fine. I'm not a professional illustrator or anything, and I don't use my machine to draw. Mainly just chopping and editing. I find Gimp's layer interface familiar and comfy. No idea where I would even begin with Krita.
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>>828116
>>828790
>>828799
Ahm, just FYI guys, although is true that at the moment GIMP doesn't have the shape drawing tools it has path tools and where the shape tools are for selections it's one button away to convert any selection into a shape and the shapes can be stroked or edited as many times as you want without needing to modify the pixels of the image. It's pretty useful IMO although it's true the shape drawing tools should be there.
▶ No.843311>>849808
As a total fucking novice who wants to get into doing comics / character drawings using foss, what is a good recommendation as a basic stack for drawing, animating etc?
At the moment I have synfig and gimp but im looking into krita and mypaint now...
I have a really shitty chinese knock-off tablet I got for free with credit card reward points but money isnt a real problem for me.
Thoughts?
▶ No.843319
>>828785
Gimp is aiming to get CMYK support after Gimp 2.10.
>>828469
I use Gimp because it's free software, it respects my freedom. I use Gimp for what it is, it manipulates images. I don't use it for what it is not, a painting program.
▶ No.849803
Paint tool SAI has a really good feature where you can set a layer to binary colour mode and any pixel that does not have an alpha of 0 is completely opaque. It's useful for erasing stray pixels. How can you replicate that in Krita?
▶ No.849808
>>843311
Krita and Mypaint are designed for paintings and drawings. Gimp is not designed for paintings or drawing, though that doesn't necessarily stop many people from painting using Gimp. I assume you are already familiar with Synfig.