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>>826717 (OP)

>goy pls buy

$X000 no thanks

>Snake oil is a fraudulent liniment without snake extract. Currently, it has come to refer to any product with questionable or unverifiable quality or benefit.

For that price, you'd think they can use something other than broadcom ethernet. Or just omit the on-board closed device and lower the cost.

/fucko/ or deepwebfags might buy that

>>826717 (OP)

does VGA port simply display framebuffer? POWER9 does not have an iGPU.

>>826717 (OP)

Yeah, there have been a hundred Talos threads on /tech/. And it's still the case that, as neat as it is, almost no anon who'd want one has 5 grand burning a hole in his pocket.

>>826717 (OP)

>1 VGA video port

what a sick joke. monitors must be connected digitally in 2017.

I don't get why people balk at the price, it's on par with a threadripper for not THAT much more given what it is, sure it gets expensive if you want the fuckers to make a full PC but mobo+CPUs are reasonable.

maybe I'm just a richfag?

>>827026

Are you braindead? The TALOS doesn't have an iGPU. The VGA port is for text mode only. You need to plug in a dGPU via PCI-E if you want graphics.

>>826812

>deepwebfags might buy that

I thought Tor had shit tier support on PowerPC, is it better on POWER9 or the same?

why won't niggers make slow and cheap variant?

what's the fucking point of:

>Supports up to 96 logical cores

>16 DDR4 ECC RAM slots

>3 PCIe 4.0 x16 slots

?

Who will use that for?

Also, what's the point of open source PC if you need to install closed source botnet GPU to even display 640x480 graphics?

>>827120

You do realize that there are more protocols out there than Tor, right? And even an idiot knows that Tor's hidden service functionality is fundamentally broken. The fact that normalfags with you even associate the deep web with Tor just shows how laughably ignorant the masses are.

Free as in expensive.

>>827248

>And even an idiot knows that Tor's hidden service functionality is fundamentally broken.

[Citation needed]

Someone should get to work on porting TempleOS to PPC.

>>827248

>>827120

POWER9 can be little endian which tends to be more compatible than big endian PPC, not sure if that's a problem with tor but it's a common one.

>>827073

> so not used to spending thousands on computer

That's fair, but there's a difference between being a rip off and simply not catering to your demographic.

I am really looking towards the linux compatible RISCV chip coming out soon, they claim it will be great for a router or embedded PC.

>>827315

You fucking moron. It's common knowledge that Tor was never made for hidden services.

>>827242

>why won't niggers make slow and cheap variant?

That's what TALOS II is. A POWER9 CPU normally contains 12 or 24 cores, but Raptor cut it down to a quad core. The reason the original TALOS failed to meet its funding goal is because they wanted to sell $1000+ 8/10/12 core POWER8 CPUs and $3700 motherboards. TALOS II is about half that price.

TALOS II is based on high dollar server hardware, and scaling it down further than they already have would require engineering a custom chipset. They would likely save some money during manufacturing, but the cost of designing the chipset for such a low sales volume would mean they wouldn't be able to take much if anything off the final price.

The alternative to POWER9 is borderline underpowered embedded hardware from NXP. As an example, the PowerPC Notebook project is using a quad core 1.8 GHz PowerPC e6500 CPU with two DDR3L slots. It's probably enough for a typical desktop user but not enough for a workstation.

>GPU

I agree, but the only way around that is to install a used part or a surplus Nvidia 210. The user can always bring their own GPU if it matters to them.

>>827120

Tor always worked for me on my PowerPCs.

>>827378

If it wasn't because of TOR, cia nigger wouldn't got hacked in the first place retard.

>>827381

>TALOS II is based on high dollar server hardware, and scaling it down further than they already have would require engineering a custom chipset. They would likely save some money during manufacturing, but the cost of designing the chipset for such a low sales volume would mean they wouldn't be able to take much if anything off the final price.

Whatever the reasons are, TALOS II is still too strong and too expensive, useless

>The alternative to POWER9 is borderline underpowered embedded hardware from NXP. As an example, the PowerPC Notebook project is using a quad core 1.8 GHz PowerPC e6500 CPU with two DDR3L slots.

That sounds great. Why isn't that shilled on /tech/ instead of stupid TALOS?

>It's probably enough for a typical desktop user but not enough for a workstation.

So e6500 is better choice than TALOS II for 99% of /tech/ users.

>I agree, but the only way around that is to install a used part or a surplus Nvidia 210. The user can always bring their own GPU if it matters to them.

Is Nvidia 210 open source?

>>827395

>That sounds great. Why isn't that shilled on /tech/ instead of stupid TALOS?

Doubtful that it's open.

>TALOS II is still too strong and too expensive, useless

Too strong for you, not for others.

>Is Nvidia 210 open source?

Works with Noveau.

>>827395

TALOS is still open. Money is merely money but open computers are more important.

>>827409

The big problem with dedicated graphics is the proprietary VBIOS that many cards use, even older ones. This is why Libreboot uses internal graphics on their supported laptops instead. I'd love to build a workstation out of this, but a powerful GPU to go with it that respects my freedom is something I don't think exists yet.

>>827395

>That sounds great. Why isn't that shilled on /tech/ instead of stupid TALOS?

TALOS has working boards. The only thing holding them up from shipping right now is IBM fucking around with the release dates of the CPU.

GNU PPC notebook? Well they have a block diagram...

http://forum.powerpc-notebook.org/index.php?topic=156.0

We need more OpenPOWER boards but right now. Today TALOS is the only one who is close to actually shipping something. If anyone knows of some other project please bring it here.

>>835734

You an still find 680s in the wild, I think.

>>834813

is that an actual order for hardware, or just a preorder?

I still have a 'preorder credit' on a Pyra because of you guys. That must be two years with no hardware.

>>835804

Pyra is shipping in two months tm

Can it play Video Games?

Talos gives you the freedom to have no C on your computer whatsoever. You can be free from all mallocs, printfs, and null-terminated strings. You can even be free from ASCII and Unicode. If you do not have this freedom, your computer is not free.

>>835850

Unemployment is a bitch ain't it?

>>835879

That has no connection to anything.