/tech/ - Technology★

>>823546 (OP)

>Do anyone agree?

It's _does_ anyone agree.

And no, we does not.

>faster

utter falsehood.

>more reliant

fucking_updates_i_am_encoding.webm

>more productive

fucking_updates_i_am_encoding.webm

>more advanced

wouldn't care even if I suspected this were true.

>>823546 (OP)

just shoah us all and range ban op

Reasons not to use Microsoft

>Microsoft is running a patent protection racket, threatening to sue users of free

>Microsoft's principal wrong is distributing a nonfree operating system, Microsoft Windows.

>That system is jam-packed with malicious functionalities, including surveillance of users, DRM, censorship and a universal back door.

>Microsoft tricked users into "upgrading" to Windows 10.

>Microsoft Windows 10 forced software changes can sabotage the user terribly if Microsoft chooses an inconvenient time to do them. Since the article is in the mainstream media, it suggests only to buy another computer that serves a master that doesn't do this particular form of nastiness. It completely ignores the possibility of installing a free operating system in the PC---which doesn't even require buying a new computer.

>Microsoft tablets and phones impose censorship of applications.

>Microsoft's chatbot in China threatens people who communicate using prohibited words.

>Microsoft forced a ridiculous "open" standard, OOXML (used in DOCX files), through the International Standards Organization by corrupting most of the national standards organizations that voted.

>The specifications document was so long that it would be difficult for anyone else to implement it properly. When the proposed standard was submitted through the usual track, experienced evaluators rejected it for many good reasons.

>Microsoft responded using a special override procedure in which its money buy the support of many of the voting countries, thus bypassing proper evaluation and demonstrating that ISO can be bought.

>Microsoft pressured nearly all manufacturers of PCs to pay for a Windows license for every machine sold, thus charging every purchaser for a Windows license.

>This is referred to sardonically as the "Microsoft tax".

>(Wherever that page says "Linux" it actually means the GNU/Linux operating system rather than Linux proper.)

>The fee doesn't force you to run Windows on your PC, but it is an injustice nonetheless. One way to avoid it is to buy hardware that is never sold with Windows.

>Some countries have laws under which users have sued for the right to get a reimbursement for the Windows license. Exercising that right is a hassle, but doing so is useful as it puts pressure on the system Microsoft has set up. However, the existence of an inconvenient escape path, limited to a few countries, has no effect on the judgment that Microsoft's practices are an injustice and deserve condemnation.

Windows is shit in pretty much every way. I hate its flat interface, I hate how little I can customize it, I hate that I can't even use the classic theme anymore, I hate that I can't simply install a different desktop environment.

The only thing Windows has going for it, however, is the most important thing: fucktons of software available.

>>823546 (OP)

>run resource monitor

>plug the ethernet to get the net

>literally 60 TCP connections from network graph with untraceable UDP connections from superhidden services in svchost collection

Have you ever tried diagnosing a problem on Windows? Good luck with the documentation ("An error occurred"). Good luck reading through the logs. Good luck calling customer support.

Go shill somewhere else, prabjeet.

>>823563

please don’t invite a linux windows flame war

Can I log out or reboot by pressing a simple sequence of Meta key -> Up key -> Enter key twice yet? No? Windows 10 isn't even as advanced as Windows XP, lol

>>823563

Agreed, basically what I'm thinking.

>>823559

reported for needless tripfagging

I agree Windows 10 is incredible, once you gut it like a pig

reddit.com/r/windows

>>823600

Reported for sissy bitch faggot AND announcing report

Its only good for gayming. Anything else GNU/Linux does better.

Is there still a way to get Windows 10 free? I have a machine with that forced update downloaded, but not installed yet. I know how to nuke the update so it won't install and download again, etc.

Windows Backdoors and User Freedoms:

> Microsoft has backdoored its disk encryption.

> Microsoft has a history of updating software without permission; this represents a universal backdoor to impose any changes they like.

> Microsoft now enforces upgrades to Windows 10 involuntarily.

> Microsoft undertook a range of actions to force Windows 7 and 8 users to upgrade to Windows 10.

> Microsoft ignored flags on Windows 7 and 8 specifying that upgrades to Windows 10 were not desired.

> For months, Microsoft tricked users into upgrading to Windows 10 if they failed to notice and deny the upgrade.

> Windows 8 has a backdoor for remotely deleting applications from the user's computer.

> The German government does not trust that Windows 8 and the Trusted Platform Module (TPM) v2.0 is not a backdoored combination.

Windows Insecurity

>The suppostion that proprietary software is free of grave bugs is demonstrably false. In fact, the popularity of Windows platforms on desktops actually increases the risk, as attackers target the near monocultural operating system environment with regularity, for example:

> The Wanna Decryptor ransomware attack spreading the globe at the time of writing is solely focused on Windows platforms.

> Flaws in Internet Explorer and Edge have previously allowed attackers to retrieve Microsoft account credentials.

> Point-of-sale terminals running Windows were previously taken over in order to collect customers' credit card numbers.

> Windows uses weak or broken cryptographic verification methods like MD5 and SHA-1.

> Windows 7 and earlier versions do not provide a secure central repository for downloading software, meaning a host of users must risk dangerous downloads from the Internet.

Windows Sabotage

These are Microsoft technical actions that harm users of specific hardware or software:

> Microsoft has rapidly dropped support for Windows 7 and 8 on recent processors following the release of Windows 10.

> Microsoft has made Windows 7 and 8 non-functioning on certain new computers, compelling a switch to Windows 10 for certain users. For example, support has been dropped for all future Intel, AMD and Qualcomm CPUs.

> Proposed Windows 10 "upgrades" deny users the ability to cancel or postpone the proposed upgrade once accepted.

> Windows 10 upgrades delete applications with the user's permission.

> Microsoft has a history of collaborating with adversaries by informing them of bugs before they are fixed.

> Microsoft reportedly gives adversaries security tips on how to crack into Windows computers.

> Microsoft cuts off support for users of specific platforms (like XP) and software (such as popular Internet Explorer versions), after users have developed a software dependency.

> Microsoft has announced that starting with Windows 10, it will begin forcing lower-paying users to test less-secure new updates before giving higher-paying users the option of whether or not to adopt them.

Windows Interference

Microsoft often releases proprietary programs or updates that destabilize or reduce the utility of the user's system:

> Windows displays advertisements for Microsoft products and those of its partners.

> Windows inserts advertisements inside of File Explorer to nag users to buy subscriptions.

> As noted earlier, Microsoft nags users repeatedly to install Windows 10.

> Microsoft has encouraged users to complain to system administrators about not upgrading to Windows 10.

Windows Surveillance

> Windows DRM files can potentially identify people browsing with Tor.

> Windows 10 sends a host of core debugging information to Microsoft and third parties.

> Windows 10 sends information to Microsoft about applications used and those that are running.

> Microsoft has renamed "data slurping" features to give users the impression they were removed.

> Windows 10 has a host of snooping options enabled by default. This includes snooping on user files, text input, voice input, location information, contacts, calendar records, web browsing history, screenshots of running programs and how long they were running, and auto-connection to open hotspots which show targeted advertisements. Many options cannot be disabled at all in a standard installation.

> Windows 10 spyware which tracks the user's text input and unique typing cadence (pattern) is comparable to a corporate keylogger.

> Even when users disable "data slurping" features, Windows 10 still sends a range of identifiable information to Microsoft.

> Windows uses a unique advertising ID for each user so that other companies can track the browsing habits of each individual.

> Windows 8 appears to have a range of spyware functions. For example, it snoops on local searches and there is a secret "NSA key" in Windows, whose functions are unknown. The smartscreen filter also reports what software is running on the computer.

> Microsoft SkyDrive allows adversaries to examine user data.

> Microsoft has enabled spyware in Skype and specifically changed the software to enable this function.

> The "privacy" policy in Windows 10 explicitly enables Microsoft the right to look at user files at any time and to sell almost any information it likes about users.

> Windows 10 full disk encryption gives Microsoft the key.

Other Windows Abuses

> Windows has introduced a range of digital restrictions mechanisms.

> Later Windows versions only allow programs from the Windows Store to be downloaded and installed.

> Windows 8 on mobile devices censors the user's choice of application programs.

> When Microsoft realized it had accidentally allowed GNU/Linux to be installed on RT tablets, it quickly "fixed the error" to prevent the use of other operating systems.

>>823546 (OP)

All this proves, is OP is a professional normie.

>>823667

Download an ISO from Microsoft's website and you have 90 days to figure out/find a guide on how to disable the activation prompts. You can do that with LTSB as well, which is a slightly better shade of brown.

>>823676

>you have 90 days to figure out/find a guide on how to disable the activation prompts

How about just say you don't know instead? Better yet, since you don't know, maybe don't say anything at all rather than give a vague non-answer that you thought elevated you to a more elite status.

Think of software like a tool. You're going to use the best tool for the job. If you need to edit a wedding video, OSX would be better suited for doing that. Video editors on Linux are very spartan or buggy. LibreOffice and Gimp are great, but some people can't live without MS Office and Photoshop. For reasons which are obvious to me, I can't support Adobe on any OS. I also don't use MS Office often even though I have access. I use mousepad for taking notes, and CSV for spreadsheet. If I need to share it, I'll import into MS Office and make it pretty for the bosses and save in the MS format.

>>823707

You asked whether you can get it for free. And I provided you with a way. Don't go chimping out on me now. If there was a misunderstanding, 90 days are trial-free and after that you get occasionally nagged by the service. Read a guide on how to remove it.

>>823729

Read a guide on fucking yourself.

>broken tiles in AMD and Nvidia since the creators update

Oh yeah, grade A interface ya got there.

>>823747

I know reading is a nigger's worst enemy, but come on now. Use a fucking search engine. And start with KMS Tools.

It, on install, was fucking unusable compared to 8.1. It took, like, 3-5 hours of my life, but I was able to de-CIA and de-bloat it to the point of usability.

It's bretty gud now. I'd say it's even better than 8.1, architecturally. There's less hangs and better battery management (the underclocking feature in power settings is pretty rad, probably my favorite Windows 10 feature by far, next to the improvements to Aero snap).

And to the people complaining about updates, lmao I got a refurb that had the Pro version preinstalled. I'm on the business release channel, and I currently have updates paused for the next like 20 days. I just need to unpause it at some point, install the latest shit, then go back to no updates again. It's rad.

>>823546 (OP)

>more productive and more advanced

Depends of what you want to do.

If your activity is tied to some specific proprietary software that doesn't have a good free alternative, yes.

If you are a programmer and comfortable with CLI, there is nothing better than Linux and Unixes.

I miss some software I used to have on Windows, especially for making music, but Wine has gotten really better during the last 5 years and runs a lot of stuff, and now that I got hooked on Linux, I don't want to go back.

Not to mention >>823671 and >>823672

>>823757

Which guide, faggot?

>>823667

>Is there still a way to get Windows 10 free? You can get gratis copies of Windows 10, but it's unlikely that we'll ever get it freed. You would need to ask Microsoft to relicense its software under a free/libre software license.

>>823546 (OP)

I just installed win 10, from win 7 and no, you're full of shit. Guess what I'm using to post right now? It sure as fuck isn't any MS product. Piece of shit OP, always sucking dicks.

>most advanced OS, Windows(tm) 10

>cannot display seconds on the clock

lawl

test post please ignore

Lol, try setting up any meaningful development environment on Windows and tell us how it goes...

>Windows 10 is faster, more reliant, more productive and more advanced than any linux desktop environment.

>computer shuts down whenever and takes 10 hours to restart because mandatory updates

Are you retarded?

Windows 7 and XP are the only good windows OS

>>823546 (OP) I forgot your (You)

>>823916

>more productive

that's like saying my Wacom tablet is more artistic.

>more reliant

than what? win xp? sure. linux? fuck no, don't have to restart linux unless i want to change my kernel

>>823667

apparently they offer it free to users that use accessibility stuff, like the blind or whatever, and the upgrade client never actually requires verification. google for it.

too bad google never could wrest the market share for office software from MS. i can live without privacy but holding people captive to shit software is just brutal.

CIANiggers pls. You're NSA botnet is pure evil, and like all the rest of evil will be tossed onto the trash heap of eternity.

>>823559

>>That system is jam-packed with malicious functionalities, including surveillance of users, DRM, censorship and a universal back door.

Imagine being this much of a delusional faggot. Microsoft isn’t spying on anybody intentionally, that’s just your interpretation. Any data collected is for performance purposes mainly. You’ve also AGREED to their terms by using what belongs to THEM.

>Microsoft pressured nearly all manufacturers of PCs to pay for a Windows license for every machine sold, thus charging every purchaser for a Windows license.

Once again how is any of this wrong? It’s called capitalism you delusional faggot, and it’s a good move for Microsoft.

>>824106

>pressuring manufacturers is capitalism

Users are not product. You produce product with your own capital. I am not your capital you can use to make product. I'm a customer, the end user. I decide which product I buy and use you fucking kike.

This man loves cancer (Windoze)

>>824106

>Microsoft isn’t spying on anybody intentionally, that’s just your interpretation. Any data collected is for performance purposes mainly.

This is the most shill-y crock of shit I've read in a good while, are you trying to get into favor with Microsoft?

If Windows 10 was running on a great server farm then I could understand the idea of collecting lots of info to tweak performance. But Win10 runs on end users computers: desktop, laptop, netbook and so on. There is nothing to tweak because all those machines have wildly different performance characteristics you fucking lying shill.

So no, they don't collect a fuckload of personal data for performance reasons. They collect it for ad serving reasons and spying reasons.

>>824106

0.10 ₹ have been deposited in your account

>>823552

OBAMA YOU FUCKING NIGGER

>>823667

Get professional or enterprise edition ("KMS client") installation media off BitTorrent verify the ISO hash against a known good official ISO list online and drop vlmcsd into an auto starting virtual machine, assign a static IP to it, and on your LAN DNS device add an SRV record pointing to that IP named _vlmcs._tcp.%LAN_DOMAIN_NAME% so auto activation works, or use slmgr.vbs to point Windows at the vlmcsd VM IP address for activation.

vlmcsd is a FOSS KMS emulator hosted on GitHub, and most KMS activation hacks in the wild incorporate vlmcsd (many malicious hacks also bundle malware; better to learn about and use vlmcsd).

>>824284

Oh last minor detail: Microsoft KMS client keys, which make Windows get its activation from a KMS server, are on the Microsoft website.

>windows 10

>faster

>more advanced

wtf?! what makes me jump into the linux world is the existence of windows 10! I have a fucking core i5 4650 and a fucking gtx 1080 and this shit still doing weird stuff!

>>824284

>vlmcsd

mchome or wind4?

microsoft cock up your ass

>>823546 (OP)

I don't agree.

Windows 10 is faster, more secure than any Linux with a desktop environment, and more reliant than 90% of the Linux desktop distributions.

The only thing that's pulling me to Linux is the philosophy & privacy (of course i'm not talking about Ubuntu and Mint).

>>824106

Pajeet's going to learn the hard way that people don't like being spied upon.

>>823563

>shit customization

You can't even specify specific colors. You're literally given a set of feminine pastels to pick from and that's it.

>lots of software

Most windows software is just clones of other windows software

Pirated Win 10 LTSB for the paranoid but who still need to/want to run it.

>>824309

I boot the vlmcsd floppy in virtuo, and I'm exploring dropping it on a WRT54GL running OpenWRT so any user of KMS client MS products can auto activate if I let them on.

Just think: selling consumer routers which activate all enterprise MS products at all times on the darknet...

>>824427

If you're going to pirate Windows, no point pirating the "client" edition aka "Windows 10 $ANYTHING Edition." The closest equivalent to Linux in the Windows world has always been the Windows Server line, since they have no artificial restrictions/gimping done unlike "client" editions. Windows 10 and Windows Server 2016 are the same underlying Windows, just that 2016 Datacenter is modern Windows just about as close to 9000 as you can get never over.

DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME WITH WINDOWS 10! IF YOU'RE GOING TO PIRATE WINDOWS, GO WITH WINDOWS SERVER 2016 DATACENTER!

>>823546 (OP)

>windows 10

>more reliable

>more productive

Holy balls, I just had to de-crapify a W10 system. The amount of SHIT in them is immeasurable.

You have to:

-fucking check lists of updates which have misleading, if not downright WRONG descriptions and weed them out one by one

-check every fucking group policy object, and even then they say to your face telemetry will still be on

-keep a fucking hosts file up to date blacklisting MS's latest domains and set up a firewall to block their shit

-delete/disable services (e.g. diagtrack, Live shit)

-delete/disable tasks in task scheduler which don't even describe what they fucking do

-fucking take ownership of \Program Files\WindowsApps and \Windows\SystemApps and fucking move stock bloatware 'apps' (Edge, Store, Cortana, Xbox shit, OneNote app, etc.) elsewhere so it won't fucking attempt to run them anymore

-fucking definitively disable Windows Crapfender which hogs your CPU and re-enables itself

-write fucking registry keys for shit not in the god-awful configuration center (e.g. disable bloated thumbnail previews)

And then there's the possibility of a fucking update reverting your changes out of fucking nowhere, or even adding yet more undocumented spyware crap you have to disable. The worst part is new computers only have drivers for Wangblows 10, so it will eventually start catching up.

Holy fuck, I can't even find words to describe how mad I am.

IF YOU HAVE A 64 CORE 256 GB RAM BEAST, THE ONLY WINDOWS ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ALL YOUR HARDWARE IS WINDOWS SERVER!

Windows Client (10, 8.1, 8, 7, Vista, XP) are all gimped and in some way disabled. Client has come with a full Terminal Server for over a decade, Windows Client doesn't have to enforce a "one at a time" policy for console and remote desktop sessions for technical reasons: it's so that you'd pay more for the near-'unlimited' version of Windows aka Windows Server.

>>824485

no i mean which release of vlmcsd? i see two options: Wind4 and McHome

I want macos but hackintoshes suck so I'm using Windows 10 LTSB 2016

>>824494

Put your anger to good use brother! Write a detailed walkthrough for us plebs and put it on pastebin or elsewhere. And when I say detailed I mean detailed like for a 5 year old, with every step explained how and why it's done.

Maybe the BO can add your final tut as a page here, just like: https://8ch.net/tech/w7tele.html

>>823894

I remember this window. :|

>>823546 (OP)

>Windows 10 is faster

Every major supercomputer in the world runs Linux.

>more reliant

The internet and the military overwhelmingingly rely on Linux and other *nix because of its superior reliability and security.

>more productive

For a some things like art/music/media/games, not for serious things.

>more advanced

Most major scientific research centers use Linux,

>Do anyone agree?

Lol, no.

>>824428

Huh, the only time I use Windows is on some thin client-ish setups we have at work so I've never really tried to customize them.

>>824539

Wind4, I believe is the main mirror for the MDL Forums hosted code. McHome is an OpenWRT package. Use Wind4.

>>824424

>Most windows software is just clones of other windows software

You mean windows software devs do over and over what linux devs can't even do once? :^`)

use a windows vm and stfu

if you need muh games use gpu passthrough. it's <current year> for christ's sake

>>824494

http://txti.es/ and write a guide plox

I had to do this for work once on a workstation that the client wanted converted to a small server. It's disgusting what they do and I don't believe there's anyone that's completely circumvented their telemetry tactics.

>>824681

Or just use a normal windows installation. It's $current_year, nobody can force you to do anything. Not even GPL faggotry against your own will.

t. gentoo user

>>824106

>and it’s a good move for Microsoft

so what? as a user I don't give a fuck, I need good moves for me.

>>823563

<MUH CUSTOMIZATION

<MUH RICING

<MUH SEKRIT FILES

You're the type of autist who bitches when he can't rip apart and put flames on a million dollar vehicle.

>>825178

Not him, but I'm Explorer's everyone's happy with explorer's white background burning their retinas.

And everyone just loves to scramble through heaps of hidden files and undocumented settings you can't just edit because lol no option/grayed out/trustedinstaller/system/setting is ignored. At on Lunix admin actually means admin.

You also have Windows's deficient documentation system (e.g. you have to type type bcdedit /? for every fucking command separately) and shitty CLI pager that still doesn't fucking allow you to scroll up.

And then there's a complete lack of a method to enumerate commands/executables in your path, so you have to google fucking everything.

I don't know how Windows sysadmins manage to endure this shit on a daily basis.

>>824494

>And then there's the possibility of a fucking update reverting your changes out of fucking nowhere

ITT people have said LTSB version doesn't do feature updates

>>825247

Did you already forget that:

a. 99% of Windows installs are non-enterprise LTSB?

b. you need a VLSC account to legally install enterprise editions?

c. Microshaft's W10 'upgrade' nagware went from optional, to recommended, to security update (KB3139929)?

d. security updates can still affect your settings and don't tell you what they truly fucking do?

>>823546 (OP)

Definition of reliant

:having reliance on something or someone :dependent

>desktop environment

found your problem

>>825368

That video is Windows 8 fam. tbh Windows 10 updates aren't nearly as obnoxious

eh, i like linux better because

>more versatility

>less of a hassle

eh, i like linux better because

>more versatility

>less of a hassle

>>824684

>>824551

I just followed guides/scripts I found floating on the web and didn't write down what I did, plus I already handed back the PC, so tough luck.

>>825251

>Retard uses shitty OS

>Retard gets shitty experience

Nigger gonna nigg

>>825369

>Windows 10 updates aren't nearly as obnoxious

are they not? afaik you can't even look up if your system is currently downloading updates, or what specific updates for that matter. good luck if you have a small bandwidth and from time to time need all of it.

then theres the problem of windows services having 100% harddisk usage sometimes. you can't even look up what the services are doing. you know why? because you're not in control of your computer.

microsoft support forums are almost as funny as WD nas support forums, in a sad kind of way. they can be a good read when you're bored and need a laugh.

you should be fucking ashamed. not even as a joke is it okay to relativize the kind of trashfire that microsoft windows 10 is.

>>825741

AFAIK you can still set it to notify you of updates and let you choose when to download and install them (via Group Policy or registry key).

>>823546 (OP)

>r*ddit spacing

>broken chinglish

>winshit

No Pajeet, we don't want to buy your shitware. Please pack up your curry and get the fuck out.

>/tech/ can't into LTSB Win10 and KMS + disabled updates

>JUST

>>825882

>disabled updates

Sorry, I don't like ransomeware.

>>823546 (OP)

>Windows 10 is faster

How about some benchmarks to prove that?

>more reliant

Not sure what you mean by that, Windows 10 has an error every time I shut my computer down

>more productive

They made the start menu harder to use and replaced Windows search with Cortana.

>more advanced

NTFS is not advanced, ZFS and btrfs is advanced

I used windows 10 since it was first released. After receiving tons of errors, viruses and blue screens I moved to Lubuntu and I have had a much better experience since then.