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Post some cool or nostalgic stuff
▶ No.788264
affordable_sansa_clip+.tga
▶ No.788265>>838635
My dad owns one of those machines for making VHS tapes.
▶ No.788308>>857951
>>788302
The original flash drive.
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>>788312
don't even fucking copy that floppy
▶ No.788316>>788331 >>838634 >>911452
>>788312
>118GB
how?
>>788311
My dad used to have tons of floppy games, died 5 years ago and my retarded brother trashed them.
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▶ No.788331>>788339 >>838634
>>788316
SD card rammed inside that floppy.
▶ No.788339>>788350
>>788331
didn't think floppy readers could do that, interesting.
Is there a guide to modding these?
▶ No.788350>>788402
>>788339
They can't. It's a modded drive too.
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▶ No.788391
No OP.
The feels are too strong. I am bitter.
▶ No.788402>>797343 >>797633
>>788350
True in that case, but not necessarily so. Note that similar adapters were made for some other magnetic media like tape cassettes.
▶ No.788403
Oops, this was supposed to be pic 3.
▶ No.788498>>791950 >>870739
>>788414
damn, lots of electromagnetic radiation in that room. fuck CRTs.
▶ No.788509>>788524
It would be nice if I knew where the boxes were.
▶ No.788524>>788535 >>788916
>>788509
>Nobody will ever make bizarre custom boxes again
▶ No.788533
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdqe5fu8A30
malaise era apple commercials
the 90s are so distant now, I want to die
▶ No.788535>>788536 >>788540
>>788524
That Painter 3 box was so boss. I still have my dad's old copies of Photoshop 3 and Strata 3d. I don't think Durandal and Infinity are 68k compatible, but the original was. I'd love to have a Quadra 950 with SCSI Zip drive and Apple CD with the removable caddies for nostalgic purposes, but I don't have the room. Thank fuck for emulation.
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>>788535
I say box. It was a legit can.
▶ No.788540>>791950
>>788535
>Painter
>Pre-MS Office-ified Photoshop
>Strata
These feels...
>Swivel
>Raydream
>Infini-D
>Alias Sketch
>SuperPaint
>Studio8
>Monet
>KidPix
Mac emulation kinda' sucks, it can't even handle dev environments like Codewarrior or Think C, and a lot of oddball hardware is totally un-emulated. Much like the sorry state of OS 9 retrocomputing, I blame the fact that a much smaller portion of Mac users knew how to code.
As for Marathon, all of them (plus ZPC & DI) were definitely 68k FAT. What the later games may have dropped was (dog slow) '020/'030 support. I played a ton of M1 on my IIci, and a lot of the others on a 660av (which I still have, though in storage ATM), but I don't remember whether or not the later games ran on pre-'040 68ks. One thing you'll definitely need to keep in mind is RAM, which I always remember being the big bottleneck.
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>>788257
>not first-gen
The translucent edge effect was pretty neat. Too bad they're still limited to the proprietary OS.
▶ No.788604>>788609 >>788899 >>791824 >>889063
>tfw no POWER9 system in a case like this
▶ No.788609
>>788604
I remember how in any lab full of *N*X workstations during the 80s/90s, each generation of what was essentially the same machine would alternate between minitower and pizzabox cases in industry-wide trends.
▶ No.788855
if you can't copy a floppy can you at least stroke it?
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>>788604
>>>/r/battlestations
▶ No.788913>>817741
If you'd ever had to use SunOS workstations you might remember the laser mice, especially their (required) mouse pads. Neat tech, but ultimately I'd much rather have had a better ball mouse that didn't require a thick metal pad.
▶ No.788916>>827072
>>788524
I can see them making a comeback for (((collector's editions))). The main reason stores hated them was shelf space relative to price. There's an old PC 2D top down space game with freighters and such in a weird box I liked as a kid (although I remember it was hopelessly buggy) and can't remember the name of and it's been killing me.
▶ No.788926>>788977 >>797557
My first computer was an Apple ][+, circa 1982, $1600 in 1982 dollars. It had a 1 MHz 8-bit 6502 CPU, 48K RAM, a 140K (per side) floppy drive, and a 40 column green-screen monitor. Applesoft BASIC and a little memory monitor and disassembler came installed on the motherboard. It was the funnest computer I ever owned.
I also had a Kaypro II and a Xerox 16/8 with an enormous 8MB hard drive. Those were both CP/M computers.
While the internet wasn't (supposedly) available for public use yet, there were hundreds of BBS systems online. Computer hobbyists were just as addicted to them as internet addicts are now.
Then the IBM PC happened, Microsoft became something more than a little company that sold MS BASIC, and it's been downhill ever since, except for Linux. Thank gahd for Linux.
▶ No.788930>>788948
How about this? There's linux distro for it.
▶ No.788941>>788948 >>788952 >>788972
Was old tech really more fun to use? People say it's nostalgia but I swear I was having genuine fun.
Whereas normalfags don't even seem to be enjoying their social media today. They seem to be in a permanent state of outrage while being milked for shekels. They enjoy it in the same way a crack head enjoys their millionth hit of crack. (Not much but it takes the edge off)
▶ No.788948>>788951 >>788956 >>789220
>>788930
Windows CE was cool (and unfairly dismissed by the same Newton retards that went on to commend the PalmPilot, this coming from an Applefag amazed by both platforms' ability to make hardware equivalent to a late-model Quadra so slow and clunky), but the nod for best effort in this category undoubtedly goes to Psion's EPOC, and later Symbian platforms, still unsurpassed by anything else in terms of suitability to the hardware and practical concerns of mobile use.
>>788941
Yes, it was definitely more fun, for two reasons IMHO.
First, tech back then (especially in the 1980s, less so in the 1990s) was still pre-monopoly, like the car industry in the early 1900s, so there was diversity among different manufacturers, divisions, economic sectors, technological approaches, and academic backgrounds, and even nationalities.
Second, neither waves of abstraction and formalization, nor the oppressive effects of giant economy-of-scale targets like the Internet (especially the web), MS Windows, and *N*X hadn't produced a "monoculture of possibilities" in the minds of designers. Smaller companies could still make a new platform or product from scratch, attract sympathetic users & devs, and enforce a special design without watering it down to resemble existing systems.
▶ No.788951
>>788948
I think that's a pretty good summary.
Developing used to feel like a blank canvas, where as now it's too opinionated. I never bothered with mobile dev for that reason, because the plantation owners set all the rules and you're effectively working for them whatever you do.
Yes, it's the kids that are wrong.
▶ No.788952>>797921
>>788941
Probably because PCs in general were a rather new thing.
I think it was mostly because there was exploration and the enjoyment of discovery in the early PC days, especially with web 1.0 being a magical place where you could find all sorts of cool shit. And PCs were fun to tinker with to see just how much shit you could do with your system and how far you could push it.
Nowadays the internet is heavily indexed and catalogued removing a lot of that feeling of discovery, and PCs really haven't innovated as significantly as they did in the past. All PCs have really been doing is getting thinner and more powerful, but also getting more bloated with NSA spyware and designed more and more with the lowest common denominator in mind making them idiot proof and less fun to tinker with.
Really in general, Jews and normalfags have ruined computing. Web 2.0 and smartphones were a mistake.
▶ No.788956
>>788948
WinCE was a trainwreck and I still have nightmares from doing mobile development during that time. "Better than BREW" is the nicest thing I can say about it.
▶ No.788972
>>788941
They were legitimately funner; the proof (for me anyway) is going back and emulating a lot of these old systems. The single biggest difference between old software and new software is their responsiveness. I guess programmers who had access to interrupts actually gave a shit about latency.
▶ No.788977>>788979
>>788926
Apple was always overpriced. 1982, same processor, better video (bitmaps, sprites, 16 colors), better sound (3 voices with filters), 64kb ram 595$
Commodore 64
▶ No.788979>>789042
>>788977
Apple ][ had higher-rez video (especially for text), and much faster floppy controllers.
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>>789003
Wow, it's been a while. I like how the flaslight looks like the classic Sonca flashlight.
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>>788979
C64 has a 40x25 text, each character being 8x8 pixels and you can redifne the font. Apple 2 got 80 colums only with an additional display card. The floppy drive on c64 has it's own cpu and ram. The built in disk routines are very likely slower than Apple, but it didn't take long for people to write their own loaders that were up to 10 times faster. And I mean like a year or two after the release of the computer.
▶ No.789048>>797921 >>836232 >>836349
>>789045
Those programs were cool. One of those old shovelware discs we used to have had one for killing cockroaches that spawned on the screen, and neko, where a cat chases your mouse pointer around (exists as oneko on Linux these days). Let's not forget esheep.exe either!
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▶ No.789056>>791956
>>789055
Reminds me of desktop strippers...
▶ No.789076>>889007
Oh to drag up an old memory, Trumpet Winsock anyone? I've only got vague memories of this, and using it to connect to the Internet via modem. Can't find any decent videos or references to it but the connection was done with a series of commands, one was simply PPP.
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>>789088
I couldn't find a screenshot of an old desktop. Sorry.
▶ No.789220>>789299 >>789434 >>790557
>>788948
What happened to Microsoft? People used to be excited about the next version.
Why was the internet explorer lawsuit a thing? If people wanted they could download another browser.
What if we got windows 7 and all of it's greatness right after XP, and we didn't have vista and all of it's issues?
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▶ No.789299>>789303 >>789306
>>789220
MS had a number of internal debacles, such as the MS Word Pyramid project, or the Windows Longhorn project, ambitious projects to add fundamentally new features that were canceled in favor of incrementalism, peaking in the mediocrity of products like Office 97 & Windows ME. A brief respite was offered by the NT project being rolled out to all sectors with 2000/XP. More recently (Win Phone/RT/8/10), the success of iOS & the XBox has caused MS to attempt the destruction of the PC in favor of forcing PC users into a mobile/console-style walled garden and dumbed down consumption-only interface.
The IE lawsuit was because web browsers used to be products in their own right, funded by sales. MS changed things by using IE as a free loss-leader, killing the funding/market for all other browsers, and those browsers with it, until they could change their funding models (now by advertising/datamining deals) to produce the garbage browsers of today. Also, Netscape was angling to maneuver Navigator/Communicator into the OS market, dreaming to add enough features that it could compete against MS Windows.
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>>789299
What was wrong with Office 97? I don't remember it being that bad for the era.
▶ No.789304>>789590 >>791956
>>789303
This was more apparent in the Mac port, but the code was a creaking unmaintainable mess. 98 required a full rewrite in order for development to continue.
▶ No.789305>>789642
>>788257
Battery finally died on mine. No longer portable.
▶ No.789306>>791956
>>789299
Microsoft threaten retailers that they will not get windows on their computers if they don't install IE on it instead of netscspe
▶ No.789310>>791970 >>818055 >>857956
>>788250 (OP)
I miss CRT monitors.
I miss white desktop computers.
I miss Microsoft Encarta.
I miss Norton Commander.
Muh feelz.
▶ No.789311>>789316
In the late 90's, I used to play Warcraft II against my neighbor down the street, He didn't have a screaming fast 14.4kbps modem like I did, he was a 2.4kbps pleb. I had to read his modem manual and construct a massive ATZ command in order to configure it to dial my house. He was such a noob at Warcraft though and didn't want to get owned by me after a while, so I thought I was pretty good until battle.net came around.
▶ No.789316>>789328 >>789379
>>789311
I remember the first game my bro and his buddy across town played using a modem was Doom co-op, talking to each other via second lines. I also remember when Descent shipped, the devs held an online ladder tourney using the demo for a full copy, my bro only made it 4 games in.
▶ No.789328>>789379
>>789316
Haha that's rad. I miss the days when the devs would interact with their customers like that. I bought the FPS game "Blood" in '98, and in the game credits, they ranked the game devs according to skill level, top down, and challenged you to contact them for a challenge. They said you better start at the bottom of the ladder before challenging the top guys, so I contacted the worst-ranked dev via email and challenged him for a deathmatch. I think this dude had been contacted many times, being the bottom ranked guy, because he was un-fucking-real in skill level. He was jumping all over the place and single-shotting me before I could react. It was pretty cool being able to play against a game dev though.
▶ No.789360
>pinging lusers with a payload of +++ATH0
>they disconnect
That was so much fun.
▶ No.789379
>>789316
>>789328
I didn't have internet till 2008 or 2007, but my friends dad was selling used computers, so his house was full of computers. We played lots of games on lan, mostly half life dm and some racing games. I love blood too. Too bad the source code is missing. Duke nukem and shadow warrior for source ports, but you still can only play the original blood in dosbox or on an old computer.
▶ No.789434>>789579
>>789220
>What happened to Microsoft? People used to be excited about the next version.
and they still are and they're still retarded. nobody here can even name more than 1 or 2 things changed from one version of windows to the next, and they usually can be done without building a new "product"
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>>789434
Windows 2000 was a seminal release.
▶ No.789580>>936946
>>789055
I loved Bonzi Buddy when it used Microsoft's parrot agent. Then they changed to the nigger gorilla and I dropped that shit real quick.
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>>789304
What's wrong with a full rewrite? People bitch about the Bethesda reusing their ancient engine.
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>>789305
Have the battery rebuilt.
▶ No.789645>>789647 >>789653 >>791257
>>789618
Photos from a Public Access Unix system I helped set up in 1991.
▶ No.789647>>789719 >>790124 >>790144
>>789645
The year and histogram doesn't look right. Did you sepia tone the images?
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>>789647
I took a shit on your desk that's what I did
▶ No.789825
>>789822
Jesus. I forgot about that shit. I used to play the shit out of that game when I was a kiddo.i
▶ No.789864>>789950 >>805946
I'm dragging my feet on buying a VGA capture device. It would be neat to be able to record my older systems for demonstration and exhibition purposes, but I can't justify the stupid prices for even used capture junk.
▶ No.789902
>>789578
This game is the shit. Recently beat the eden campaign. When i was a kid i would just fuck around with the colony games maps
▶ No.789916
>>789822
>mommy used to yell at me if I couldn't get past the division level
>no one ever taught me what division was, I didn't know what the / sign meant
>one day I finally screamed louder than her and asked her what division was and when she heard me she stopped yelling and just said
>"what...they never taught you how to do division?"
>No mom they just put it in there and you tell me I have to beat the game
>she still wouldn't tell me what it was
>days went by
>maybe weeks, I don't remember very well back then
>one day she finally shows me with a pencil and paper how to do division
>she felt defeated, she was embarrassed the whole time
>I still didn't know what the fuck to do with remainders
▶ No.789950
>>789864
Just get an fpga dev board.
▶ No.789999
>>789229
Yamaha GS is for scrubs anyway. This is where it's at.
▶ No.790124>>790135 >>790141
>>789647
It's called "Black & White Film", Millennial.
The guy in the first photo, along with owning the 386SX16 hub for the network, also had a photography dark room. The overexposure also hints that he did these himself..
>>789653
Kibo got more write-on votes for the 1992 American Presidential Election than Richard Stallman did. :{
▶ No.790135>>790144
>>790124
I was clearly talking about the photos above that.
▶ No.790141>>790144
>>790124
60's carpet 70's furniture 80's computer 90's date 10's tungsten lighting
▶ No.790144>>791736
>>790135
>>790141
>>789647
Guy who posted the photos here. I got them off the homepage of Windmill Software, small company that made games in the 80s. http://www.digger.org/windmill.html
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▶ No.790557>>790575 >>790986 >>805947
>>789220
>What happened to Microsoft? People used to be excited about the next version.
Hell knows why. Microsoft's products were never the best at anything. They were never innovative or particularly user-friendly.
▶ No.790575>>890465
>>790557
As much as it sucked, each new version sucked less. Now they've started going backward in terms of functionality just like Apple.
▶ No.790644
>>789822
I had the dos one where you assembled space ships with math
shit was tight
▶ No.790946
>>789578
As unfinished and buggy it was I still love the first game.
▶ No.790986
>>790557
The users tended to be friendly, which is why you can still find archives and repositories of fixes, patches, applications, scripts, and all other kinds of things to unfuck everything from DOS up.
▶ No.791257
>>789645
that third pic looked like my room, but then I looked more closely and it was printers and solder equipment not pissbottles and chip bags
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>>788257
get a portable battery
▶ No.791736
>>790144
I originally assumed this was eastern Europe, but I can see Canadians using tungsten bulbs for heat.
▶ No.791740
>>791631
High school. Lunch hour. All the geeks and gamers gathered in the computer room, turned off the lights, and held an hour-long LAN party every day. Chill CompSci teacher that made it all possible. Never again indeed :-(
▶ No.791761>>791991
If VR ever takes off, I wonder if laptops will be replaced with computers with keyboards built in but no screen, like in the 80s?
Or maybe they will just look like gaming laptops with the screen ripped off?
▶ No.791824>>850996 >>883738
>>788604
Oh man, I loved those old SGI machines. IRIX was a pretty nice OS too. About 5 years ago I had one that got lost in the mail and 7ish years ago I had one that broke in an accident. I'm temped to buy another but anything decent is pretty pricey and I don't think anyone is still porting much to IRIX like we had with nekochan, though I haven't looked into it much.
Even though I don't have any MIPS hardware at all I've thought about trying to run it in QEMU but the hardware was so specialized and so obscure that I doubt I'll be able to install it and boot to a working desktop. I have heard that 5.3 works in QEMU if you mess with it enough, though not very well. For the past couple months I've been playing around with MaXX Interactive which is basically the IRIX desktop ported to GNU/Linux. I was slightly pissed that it only works on 64-bit x86 machines running Fedora or Debian based systems but it's amazing on Core2 stuff. I really wish it ran on 32-bit x86 as well so I could use it on older machines that I have collecting dust due to software incompatibility. I'm pretty hyped for version 1.2.0 that's supposed to be out on the 15th.
Pic related is a ThinkPad T400 hooked up to an external monitor which I'm using as a secondary desktop for smaller tasks.
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>>791700
you should see the sequel
▶ No.791950
>>788389
Cool. This kind of stuff is awesome. This is what computer art was. I can't believe we went from that to worshiping this modernest bullshit.
>>788498
Fuck you. CRTs can display black properly. Go stare at your pozzed widescreen LCD.
>>788540
Kidpix was the shit. That's how you knew you were cool, if your parents had that, or your dad pirated it for you.
▶ No.791956
>>789045
I remember wasting so much time with that.
>>789304
And they still fucked it up. You still can't have more than one version of office installed at a time without massive issues. They also used a bunch of non standard Win32 shit that renders them unusable on newer versions of Windows. In short, they didn't even follow their own design rules.
>>789306
Nathan Lineback's page has/had tons of information on what happened back then. Some of the more interesting pages are gone, but you can still see them on archive.
>>789056
I had one of those, the full one, interesting for the first hour, then not so much.
▶ No.791970>>889024
>>789310
>I miss CRT monitors.
They were bulky, heavy and for every story of "muh CRT lasted me decades" nostalgia niggers conveniently forget the ones that craps out shortly after their warranty period, or the phosphor dying. But muh CRT. I'll still take an IPS or VA LCD even with it's perceived shortcomings by nostalgia niggers over CRT. Some things were not better in the olden days.
>I miss white desktop computers.
The plastic exteriors in some of those can yellow and discolor over time. The sheetmetal parts are usually ok though.
>I miss Microsoft Encarta.
I miss when MS had decent peripherals. I had an intellimouse and keyboard that would not quit and only given away because it was no longer keeping up with my newer machines, though it was still functional after nearly a decade plus and lived through years of Diablo1 and 2 clickings. Compared to the MS mouse I bought where the rubberized side panels and rubber strip on the scroll wheel rotted off after a year, and the official pajeet response from MS was "vell it is time to poobably poorchuss a nu vhan sir, thank you come again".
▶ No.791991>>901789
>>791761
>keyboards
Don't you know it? Voice recognition (powered by The Cloud™) is the future, goy!
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▶ No.797343>>806885
>>788402
tfw no 32GB fake floppy
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▶ No.797359
>>797303
That's only because tech product back then were mainly marketed to people who knew how tech worked.
▶ No.797557
>>788926
I bought an apple IIe a few years ago, it's so fucking rad.
Monochrome green monitor, dual five inch floppy disk drive included, and even has a 80-column card installed. The only issue is that one of the keys is broke off the keyboard and I just never got around to trying to fix it.
▶ No.797614
>tfw Sony pulled the plug on MD two years ago
>tfw no IBM ThinkPads anymore
>tfw Asko is shit-tier since the late 90s/Merloni takeover
Fuck planned obsolesence. Where did my tank-like laptops and washers go?
▶ No.797633
>>788402
Yes but it was only for compatible floppy drives and with specific software installed.
▶ No.797670
>>789303
Some macros made for excel for example would be viruses and people didn't know. I don't know if this is still the case.
▶ No.797913
>>789598
I came here to post this.
Here's Zork instead.
▶ No.797921>>827077
>>788952
>Nowadays the internet is heavily indexed and catalogued removing a lot of that feeling of discovery
Not only that, but modern search engines focus on popularity first, with relevancy a distant second. It's led to a "rich get richer" effect where the top results for everything are wikipedia, facebook, and youtube. I seriously blame pagerank for ruining the internet.
>>789003
>>789048
Oh fuck, guys. Please stop. The Win95 nostalgia is overwhelming. Is there a linux version of esheep? I miss my sheep.
▶ No.799868
This new computer case I got
▶ No.800613>>806416
I miss the big belt cables desktops use to have
▶ No.801073>>801114 >>805884 >>851628
>>788250 (OP)
have you tried the look/feel of pure html like https://diogn.es ?
▶ No.801114>>805874
>>801073
>look/feel of pure
That's a good way of putting it.
Because you still use javascript and css anyway. You even embed google analytics.
Yet the site looks like actual garbage.
▶ No.801755>>805990 >>805998 >>806915
ive got an IBM PS/2 Model 30 with the 8086 processor sitting in a box in my garage, got it for 10 bucks and cleaned it up to find that it works
only issue is getting PC-DOS on it and tbh i dont really give a shit enough to do that
any ideas for stuff i could do with it? Expansion cards, neat software, etc? I really just want some excuse to go actually install an OS on it and dick around with it for a bit
▶ No.805859>>859795
>>788588
Turrican is fucking rubbish to play these days though. But the soundtrack on amiga is superb.
▶ No.805874
>>801114
A friend of mine made a website that's almost pure HTML. He just uses a tiny bit of css to center text. I think it looks fine.
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▶ No.805935
Philips P2000T, one of the first computer i ever used as far as my memories go.
▶ No.805946
>>789864
Monkey Island..... aaaaaaaah the best ever.
▶ No.805947
>>790557
I am just old enough to remember when Windows95 came out. People acted like AppleStore fan boys, it was insane.
▶ No.805973
All those books about how to make games in BASIC and machine language.
▶ No.805974>>805977 >>835511
>tfw on a saturday, playing some vidya before lunch
▶ No.805978
Creature Shock -- Amazing cutscene graphics for the time, but weak game play.
▶ No.805990>>837995
>>801755
I think the whole point of those old machines is there's no OS crap to get in your way. Plain old DOS or CP/M is fine, but the ROM BASIC machines are even better, because there's no delay when you hit reset button and the system always reverts back to a clean state. Contrast that with modern cianigger botnet indoctrination machines where you're always fucking around with packages, configurations, upgrades, virus scanner and/or other security shits. All of it is such a huge waste of time. Time better spend playing and making games or other creative things.
▶ No.805998
>>801755
Write your own OS for it.
▶ No.806021>>806037 >>813135
Why apple drop the ball hard with the Pippin?
it was way ahead of it's time with the way it connected to the net.
Also when will apple go back to it's older asthetics? it's design is not fresh anymore. I love the gen 4's design with the metal bumper,and that's the only new apple design i like.
▶ No.806037>>806055
>>806021
Pippin was like 3DO without EA. Even Sega Saturn was cheaper and more capable. Gil Amelio spread Apple too thin making garbage similar to the trashcan MacPro. It was all super expensive, and super proprietary. I mean, look at this shit. The RAM might have been the only thing standard.
▶ No.806055>>806057
>>806037
That looks very similar to the logic board of the PPC Performa line.
▶ No.806057>>813135
>>806055
It was originally designed for the Quadra 630, but continued on in the PPC Performas. The PowerMac 7X00 series was a somewhat novel idea, but it was still very expensive. Apple didn't seem to grasp or care about industry standards at the time. Now that Steve Jobs is gone, they're slipping back into old bad habits. Maybe they don't even care now that they're an iThing company.
▶ No.806416>>889029 >>889090
>>800613
>poor air flow
>difficult to cable manage
>ugly gray color
>IDE
Why?
▶ No.806876>>806927
Where can a nigga buy some early 90s PC cases?
▶ No.806885>>890591
>>797343
Imagine a 3.5" NAND floppy at moddern SDXC density per square mm.
▶ No.806915
>>801755
Adlib Tracker is open source and still in development. Get a good OPL3 sound chip in there and you have a music machine.
▶ No.806927
>>806876
AT PC cases are more expensive on ebay than ATX cases are brand new. You might get lucky at a Goodwill Computer store, but chances are they'll slap a high price on them as well.
▶ No.806958
We Live in Public is a great documentary and has some nice time capsules of Internet culture from the late 90s and early 00s. Combination sex raves and DOOM LAN parties, underground lawless bunkers, dialup-era online streams, you name it.
https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=LexyO9RMzs0
▶ No.812538
>>805977
I am Abuc, master of locks.
▶ No.812970>>812981 >>850789 >>860701 >>876682
Does anyone know much about the soviet stuff?
▶ No.812981>>813003 >>813006
>>812970
Say what you want about the soviets, but they had some really fucking cool technology for sure.
▶ No.813003>>890143
>>812981
It's pretty neat seeing all the hackjob clones of western computers that came out of the Soviet Union. Especially that one where they squeezed a minicomputer into a single chip. It's pretty impressive seeing all that homegrown stuff that popped up due to the relative isolation from capitalist nations. It kind of sucks that they lagged behind in the late 80s/early 90s though. X-COM for the Spectrum happened though, so there's that.
▶ No.813006>>813022 >>813135 >>850789 >>890143
>>812981
All "their" mass market computers were Sinclair and IBM clones. The very few actual Soviet designed computers rarely made it out of a handful of laboratories.
▶ No.813007
>>789303
.doc files are raw memory dumps, including any leftover garbage you thought was deleted. That's why a completely blank document is ~40kb and files only grow in size, also why newer versions had to be treated as a contagion in the enterprise because it made forward compatibility impossible.
▶ No.813022
>>813006
They had a ternary computer with a forth like language made for it.
http://brokestream.com/daf.txt
▶ No.813135
>>806021
1) No in-house 1st-party dev, no exclusive 2nd-party devs, no major 3rd-party devs.
2) Weak specs, in particular, no graphics acceleration at all. Something like a Performa 6400 w/Rage 2 (or even the Quadra 630's DSP) would've been on par with most other 32-bit systems, a stronger GPU & more aggressively clocked CPU (probably with more cooling) would've easily exceeded the specs of the PSX/N64/Saturn (incidentally, the "Project Katana" Sega Dreamcast proposal, 603e w/ Voodoo II, was about what the Pippin should've been IMHO).
3) Little advertising or distribution. I never saw anything in rental shops or most game distributers from the likes of Nintendo & Sega (or even 3D0 & Atari), nor the swathes of infomercials used by WebTV & TiVO in the multimedia market.
4) Not strictly compatible with Macs. While "porting" Mac games to the Pippin was pretty simple, users couldn't simply plop one onto the other like a modern Steam Machine (or the older CDTV), without a bit of tinkering. In spite of this, hardware was sold at profitable full price, without the loss-leader devkit taxes typical to consoles. A more Steam Machine-like approach, both allowing more Mac software to work on the Pippin, and allowing Mac software to operate in a "TV mode", hearkening back to set-top PC platform giants like the C64 & MSX, may have been more successful.
>>806057
>Muh NIH syndrome
>Muh lowest common denominatorstandard IBM compatibility
It was proprietary designs that gave Apple (and other non-wintel platforms) a huge tech lead over wintel, even some non-wintel standards (SCSI, NuBus, Open Firmware, etc.). The shift to PCI, IDE, PC DIMMs, VGA, USB, and eventually x86, is what did in the Mac. Current Year™ Apple's proprietary designs aren't comparable at all, since they're just unoriginal wintel/Android junk, but with a tiny alteration purely to break compatibility.
>>813006
Not all of them, some were incredibly bizarre "PC" versions of western mainframe platforms, like the PDP-11-compatible, Apple ][-sized BK-0010.
▶ No.816487>>816594 >>816596 >>816602
>>816407
What on earth is that rope thing by your window? It looks hideous and nigger made.
▶ No.816594>>816629
>>816487
Those were flower pot holders.
▶ No.816602>>816629
>>816487
Are you stupid, or retarded?
▶ No.816629
>>816596
>>816594
Ahh, I see.
>>816602
I leave being those to you.
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▶ No.817741
>>788913
I used one of those with a MacSE in 1988
▶ No.818055
>>789310
>I miss Norton Commander.
Install Midnight Commander, if you don't have it already (assuming you're running a linux distro). https://midnight-commander.org/
It's an open source clone.
▶ No.819227>>821976
>>818570
>>Thread is about 80s/90s cool tech/nostalgia
>lel imma post shitty /b/-tier jokes using some stupid tech from late 2000s xDDDD
No one thinks you're funny, dude. If you want to be a board parasite and shitposter, go to >>>/g/ or >>>/cuckchan/. Either lurk moar or get out. If you can't handle a sincere tech discussion, just get out.
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▶ No.821976
▶ No.821995>>822068 >>836282 >>901761
Anybody got the phone #?
> inb4 XXX-NOT-4YOU
▶ No.822068>>822110 >>836282 >>901761
>>821995
602-861-1872 | Anime Archive
| PHOENIX, AZ (1992)
SYSOP | Brad Turner
▶ No.822110>>836282
>>822068
1992 was a good year. Wish I could stay there forever.
▶ No.823873>>823878
Anyone remember that feel?
▶ No.823878
>>823873
I still sometimes play quakeworld on a server on a different continent just to experience that feel. Although most of the people that play now are so good that they would wipe the floor with you even if you had the advantage in latency.
▶ No.824194>>824251
>all usenet and fido conversations ended up in google's databases
>tfw our children will be able to read imageboard shitposts from past google is archiving right now
▶ No.824232>>824240 >>824367
FidoNet is only a tiny part of the BBS scene though. Most posts were made on local message bases, and occasionally small networks of local boards that relayed messages to each other. But most of that is lost now, or rotting away on HDD or floppies in someone's closet.
The currently active telnet/ssh BBS's aren't archived either. You have to login with username/password, so a simple web crawler won't do it, unless the board also has a public web interface, or unless a user downloads all messsages in QWK format or something.
Anyway just shoving all the text into a web interface doesn't capture the BBS experience, where every board had their own custom interactive text interface, often with nice ASCII/ANSI art. And in the case of local area code BBS, you talked to people you knew IRL or could get together with and have a beer. Sometimes local boards would organize events like picnics where you could meet each other.
▶ No.824240>>824338
>>824232
>get together with and have a beer. Sometimes local boards would organize events like picnics where you could meet each other.
BBSes confirmed for normalfag-tier.
▶ No.824251
>>824194
You mean Google Groups? That's been around forever. The reality is that kids aren't interested in that stuff, in part because, beyond probably slack or some historical stuff like Scaruffi, newsgroups were only interesting because they were relevant to ourselves. Even historical fascination only goes so far. Kids these days don't have the patience to read text--especially plaintext on a monitor unsupplemented when there are far more stimulating things on that very same monitor. Er, or should I say smartphone? Since young people don't even have the luxury of enjoying an actual operating system.
▶ No.824338>>824367
>>824240
Nerds like to talk and drink beer too, or even play D&D or video games together. It was much more common to get together back then because otherwise it's just you sitting by yourself alone all the time. And you can't call dialup BBS all day because you're typically only allowed 1 hour before system kicks you off, and in some places you even had to pay the phone company by the minute. Plus, you'll get unlucky sometimes and just get a busy signal.
▶ No.824367>>824733 >>827081
>>824232
>>824338
Looks comfy. Did any of you guys play MUDs? I used to play Ancient Anguish a bit in the late 90s, where even then it was quite dated, but the novelty was of course mass multiplayer.
To my surprise, it's still running: anguish.org
▶ No.824733>>827081 >>839001 >>911860
>>824367
MUDders/MUCKers were the first wave of Internet Cancers.
▶ No.827072>>827091 >>827096 >>838529
>>788916
Probably not the game you are looking for, but the description of the game in a way still reminded me of STARFLIGHT.
https://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/starflight/cover-art
It's crazy how much even the box art was superior, especially in the scifi genre, to anything presented these days. I wonder why that is. No, wait, I know the answer: Back then, the people programming these things were still white males that had something of the explorer spirit left in them that made their ancestors conquer the world. Nowadays, "art" is being done by trannies and other degenerates that basically just puke their mental states on the...boxes.
▶ No.827081>>835717 >>839001
>>824367
Yeah, I played a lot in the late '80s and early '90s, but mainly variants of DikuMUD. I also used to work with the guy who wrote tinyfugue (you might have used it, was pretty popular). Was fucking fantastic, lots of good memories playing vidya with geniuses back when these kinds of things were off-limits to almost anyone but tech's elite. I credit hobnobbing with the early internet for the absurd rate I learned the darkest depths of tech at. I wish I could rewind the clock every day.
>>824733
Kill yourself twice.
▶ No.827091>>827092
>>827072
Psygnosis hired this guy for some of their box covers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Dean_(artist)
He also did the japanese cover for Black Onyx on the Famicom.
▶ No.827092>>884297
>>827091
Also like this Middle-earth style art. I think the artist got inspired by 80's ICE's MERP books.
▶ No.827096
>>827072
Much more obvious is that art there had to be physically created, with the resultant reduction in scope for error and the imperfections and texture that come with doing that.
I feel you get a similar effect with new vehicles, where in past you'd get someone to draw the concept art or make a physical model where now you tend to just get a digital 3D model. i.e. compare and contrast these supersonic jet concepts.
▶ No.827101
▶ No.835501>>835504 >>835514
Where the hell do I get copies for old OSes like DOS and early versions of windows and mac OS?
Seems like those older GUIs offer a comfier expericence than current ones do. I was born in 1997 so I missed out on what you fags seemingly claim is the best era of computing, so I want to know what the hype is all about.
▶ No.835504>>835507
>>835501
Did you try the internet?
▶ No.835507
>>835504
>Let me go on these websites that I've never heard of before and don't use HTML5 and totally not get fucked up.
▶ No.835511
>>805974
>get really early on the morning in saturday
>watch cartoons
>eat breakfasts
>play vidya
it will never be the same again.
▶ No.835514>>835517
>>835501
There is an open-source/free software DOS clone called FreeDOS. I've run it in a VM on and off for years to play old DOS games, but apparently it can be installed to real hardware, too. Dell even offered a few machines with it preinstalled.
Just use it instead of trying to track down an old version of MS-DOS or one of its variants, unless there's some specific reason a clone won't do.
http://www.freedos.org/
▶ No.835517>>835537
>>835514
Cool looks interesting.
Do you have any ideas on where abouts I can download 3.1/NT/95 do you?
▶ No.835537>>835546
▶ No.835546>>835554
>>835537
>https://winworldpc.com/library/operating-systems
Holy fuck, Anon!
I didn't know you were so based!
Thank you.
▶ No.835554>>835611
>>835546
Was not the same anon actually.
▶ No.835611
>>835554
Yeah I know.
Thanks again.
Now I have to go fishing for some generic licence keys...
▶ No.835623
man it was great having a real mp3 player when all the drones had ipods. just a flash drive with a battery and an mp3 player, drag and drop, no faggy software.
▶ No.835717
>>827081
<1994
Computer Lab @ 9pm, hell yeah
Donna code some elite codings
Some fucktard held the security doors open and let the B.A drug addicts in
B.Arts can't into computers, but they can play Virtual Cyber Fantasies with what seems like a Typewriter
The B.Arts fucks are using all the X Terminals
Fuck, more useless fucks have arrived and want let in.
Goddamn, can you imagine the autism on display when a MUCKer banged on the security door to be let into the Lab?
<2017
B.Art^H^H^H^H^HSupermarket checkout operator of 20 years posts on the Internet that he was a-w-e-s-o-m-e because he used MUCKs Back In The Day.
▶ No.836232
>>789048
>oneko
Thanks I didn't know that. Installed. :3
▶ No.836234
>>789578
I wasted way too much time on that.
▶ No.836281
>>788312
why would you 3dprint the save button?
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▶ No.837114
>>788257
>Zune
>80s/90s tech
fag please
>>788302
The shenanigans I did on those...good times.
▶ No.837307>>837308
this mp3 player was THE shit
small as fuck
overall design cute as fuck
▶ No.837308>>837309
>>837307
was that a touch or a scroll-wheel? looks like a great design.
▶ No.837314>>837319
>>837309
>zombie green
>the nipple isn't red
there was still room for improvement
▶ No.837319
>>837314
they were made in orange
▶ No.837995
>>805990
>below the root
>same programmer of pic related
▶ No.838529
>>827072
> But when the project finally reached its conclusion, the numbers spoke for themselves: 16 colors, two diskettes (360K each), 800 planets, three years of development, eight alien races, six system ports and over 1 million copies sold - a platinum achievement and a breakthrough for home computer games. In 1987, Computer Gaming World called it "the best science fiction game available on computer," and in 1988 science fiction writer Orson Scott Card introduced videogame commentary into his Fantasy and Science Fiction book review to say of it, "Starflight is the first science fiction computer game that actually gives you something of the experience of roaming through the galaxy. ... I have found this game obsessively fascinating - and the graphics and player interface are superb."
> The team coded the game mostly in Forth with a few key routines written in assembler for speed. Forth was chosen since it was easier to use than assembler and more compact. This was important because the game had to fit into 128K of RAM. Many tools, techniques, and concepts used in the game were learned from other individuals in the Forth community. Some of the reference material included "The Journal of Forth Application and Research", FORML conference proceedings, and "Forth Dimensions" magazine.
Forth confirmed master race of the galaxy.
▶ No.838634
>>788316
You can edit the MBR to report whatever you want. Used to be a cool hack. Not sure if it was done in this case or >>788331 with a modded drive bay.
▶ No.838635>>838636 >>918488
>>788265
>one of those machines for making VHS tapes
video recorder
▶ No.838636>>844829
>>838635
Actually they used to be called VCRs
Video Cassette Recorder
▶ No.838996
>>789618
Just last week I finally threw out an old but functional Epson system with DOS 5 on it that had that same/almost same monitor (orange & black). Was saving it just because of how old it was but finally decided it was time.
▶ No.839001>>911860
>>824733
>>827081
majormud master race - there's still active boards today and a remake called greatermud which is pretty tits
>>824733
100% accurate
▶ No.844425>>844504 >>844829
Where the hell does a guy find those big beige PC cases?
▶ No.844504
>>844425
Buy them white and allow them to discolor with age.
▶ No.844829>>850744
>>838636
Professional tape duplication systems were usually referred to as VTRs in my area, T for tape, or just dubbing machines.
>>844425
Craigslist and eBay, mostly.
Here's what I've been dicking around with for the past few years, albeit at an interminably slow pace.
http://www.geocities.ws/oldternet/
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▶ No.850760
K7 with game for several computers.
▶ No.850776
well i was gonna embed but tech is gay and wont let me so here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIn58XoY728
▶ No.850789
>>812970
>>813006
The Soviets' own technology was more advanced than the stuff they copied from us.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIR_(computer)
>The MIR series of early Soviet personal computers was developed from 1965 (MIR), 1968 (MIR-1) to 1969 (MIR-2) in a group headed by Victor Glushkov. MIR (МИР) stands for «Машина для Инженерных Расчётов» (Machine for Engineering Calculations) and means both "world" and "peace" in Russian. It was designed as a relatively small-scale computer for use in engineering and scientific applications. Among other innovations, it contained a hardware implementation of a high-level programming language capable of symbolic manipulations with fractions, polynomials, derivatives and integrals. Another innovative feature for that time was the user interface combining a keyboard with a monitor and light pen used for correcting texts and drawing on screen. It could be considered one of the first personal computers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BESM
>BESM-3M and BESM-4 were built using transistors. Their architecture was similar to that of the M-20 and M-220 series. The word size was 45 bits. Thirty BESM-4 machines were built. BESM-4 was used to create the first ever computer animation.[3][4] The prototypes of both models were made in 1962-63, and the beginning of the series release was in 1964.[5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BESM-6
>The BESM-6 was widely used in USSR in the 1970s for various computation and control tasks. During the 1975 Apollo-Soyuz Test Project the processing of Soyuz orbit parameters was accomplished by a BESM-6 based system in 1 minute. The same computation for the Apollo was carried out by the American side in 30 minutes.
http://www.computer-museum.ru/english/algol68.htm
>One of the first implementations of Algol 68 was done in a Kiev computer-producing factory in the end of seventies for Siemens computers. Its authors are S. I. Shtitelman, M. G. Shteinbukh, L. A. Makogon. The implementation was oriented to an information management system called "START, for which Algol 68 was the only language it used. The authors of the project were interested in Algol 68 primarily as in a source of a data base language. The Kiev implementation anticipated many features of modern languages of that sort: persistent objects, an elaborated system of types, orthogonal design, a large share of interpretativity, and so on. The system of types and orthogonality were in fact due to the Algol 68 itself but the persistence feature urged for some corrections of the language. Namely an "everlasting block has been introduced, meant to preserve between the executions of the program those objects that could be used by different programs. In fact it was a data base. Some other variations were also done without any regards to the standardization efforts for Algol 68: all arrays were considered to be flexible, a control variable of a loop was long int rather than int, complex values were absent and so on. Accepted by the Working Group in 1979 this system exists no more because of replacement of hardware in the factory.
http://www.computerhistory.org/atchm/the-elbrus-2-a-soviet-era-high-performance-computer/
>But Burtsev, Babayan, and the rest of the Elbrus team also examined then current computer architectures from the West and found the Burroughs B 5000 to be most compelling. The Elbrus architecture featured multiple CPUs, multiprogramming and multiprocessing, hardware tagging, and support for high-level languages. A new programming language, El-76, was devised for all levels of programming.
▶ No.850996>>851876
>>791824
Why is your CPU a p8400 and yet you are running an OS build for x86?
And why 64 bit for that matter?
and look at how much ram you have installed as opposed to how much bloatware you are probablye running unkowingly
▶ No.851628
>>801073
>links to google
>HTML doctype, but uses XHTML tags. inconsistently
>proprietary apple/ms shit in head
>service worker
>pretentious lol-i-hate-facebook-i-am-so-keewl-and-antisocial bullshit
▶ No.851876
>>850996
>Why is your CPU a p8400 and yet you are running an OS build for x86?
>And why 64 bit for that matter?
Because it's an x86-64 CPU, fuckass. Are you retarded?
>and look at how much ram you have installed as opposed to how much bloatware you are probablye running unkowingly
I'm using systemdicks, of course it's bloated. Are you saying I should remove a bunch of my RAM for no good reason? There's no such thing as too much RAM.
Or are you saying I don't have enough? Because 4GB is enough.
▶ No.856633
just got this beauty. will make an adapter to USB for it soon
▶ No.857951
>>788308
>magnetic
>flash
choose one
▶ No.857956
>>789310
>those speakers
not even its final form
▶ No.858338
>>858236
Love the scorch marks
▶ No.858341>>871142
>>857960
if apple came out with that today, you'd all laugh at it
▶ No.859792
>>789229
Would this be a worthwhile upgrade for a retro PC to replace a SB Pro compatible with OPL-3?
▶ No.859795>>859831
>>805859
It's plays much smoother emulated when you can map jump to a button instead of up (which plagued nearly all of Amiga platformers, given that the lowest common denominator was to assume a single fire button which was used for the main action like shooting etc. with jumping being relegated to up). Playing it with a d-pad, two separate fire buttons (one for continuous fire, one for the circle beam thing), jump mapped to a button, and all other relevant keys mapped to buttons as well makes it a much better experience.
▶ No.859831
>>859795
If he can't play with normal 1-button joystick, he's a pleb and should just stick with Mariostein 3D. Anyway I don't want anymore lamers on Amiga, there's enough already.
▶ No.860701>>860723
>>812970
I don't remember much about it, but I had a computer called a "vector" (Вектор) when I was younger.
▶ No.860723>>860725 >>860727
>>860701
What OS did it run?
▶ No.860725
>>860723
I think it was running a BASIC or BASIC-like interface. I remember getting books with the software written in it, and then typing it in or making my own.
▶ No.860727
>>860723
Not him, but I'm pretty sure they were all either BASIC or CP/M clones depending on the hardware whereas 6502 clones used BASIC and Z80/8088 clones used CP/M.
▶ No.860732>>860734
What's it gonna take for the CRT to make a comeback?
▶ No.860734>>870707
>>860732
Nuclear war. Or anything else that causes the complete collapse of the global supply chain.
▶ No.870705
>>870118
>first image
Godly case, great mouse, awesome speakers (for their size at least), nice monitor, alright (I guess) keyboard. Overall great aesthetic atmosphere (more of an early 00s than 90s given the Audigy front panel, but still).
>second image
Hmm, some 486 DX66 with probably the smallest monitor they had around at all (its diagonal seems even smaller than the 11 inches that should be the width of the keyboard's main key block). Keyboard and mouse forgettable, but the tower case is alright (obviously nowhere near that from the first picture though).
▶ No.870707>>870928
>>860734
What kind of cataclysm would make resurrecting long-dead CRT manufacturing an easier and more viable scenario than finding a way to resurrect LCD manufacturing that was available shortly before (and possibly survived to a lesser or larger extent)? You do realize how much of a logistics overhead CRTs caused with their weight, bulk and fragility? That's the main reason they were given up on as soon as the cost of manufacturing LCD screens went down (even while LCD screens were still more expensive to make, they were cheaper to handle overall because of much lower storage and transportation costs).
▶ No.870739
>>788498
>calling an arena a "room"
▶ No.870865
>>870118
1st image is very comfy.
▶ No.870928>>870931
>>870707
The main push behind the switch to LCD was that you could make cubicles smaller and text was easier to read for people who enter forms all day.
▶ No.870931>>871121
>>870928
I was happy to get an LCD because for once the screen edges weren't warped. Efficiency and size were an added bonus.
▶ No.871121>>884300
>>870931
You do realize that basically any CRT monitor had an OSD menu with controls which would allow you to unwarp it? Yes it could be a bit of a pain, but for every display mode (i.e. combination of resolution and refresh rate) you only needed to do it once. For the smaller CRTs it was fairly easy anyway, it was more of a nuisance for the larger ones (19-24 inches) as you had separate controls for the corners in addition to the normally present edge controls, and optimizing image geometry could be a bit like solving a game-of-15 puzzle (the order of adjustments was important as various controls affected one another), but with a bit of patience you only noticed imperfections afterwards if you were OCD about it.
▶ No.871142
>>858341
>apple
>came out with anything but the closet
I think you meant if apple stole it today.
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▶ No.876682
>>812970
Clones of western trash computers mostly, I can't imagine why a non-former-commie would be interested. We had the original trash computers which these are clones of.
Still they enhanced the shit out of the Spectrum, kek.
▶ No.876704>>876722
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WIn58XoY728
I don't know how to embed and I've been here for years wtf
▶ No.876706>>876707 >>876720 >>883719 >>884301 >>917506
>>875773
You like towers fam? Here's the best one.
▶ No.876707>>883719 >>884301
>>876706
Dunno why the image got rotated CCW 90 degrees like that when I posted. Oh well, here's the back side.
▶ No.876720>>876860
>>876706
why does it need a key?
▶ No.876722>>876727
>>876704
Anyone play that game?
▶ No.876727
>>876722
No. It looks like a very silly game.
▶ No.876860
>>876720
It doesn't, that's just a feature a lot of desktop and tower cases added at some point, probably for corporate users. But you can just ignore it.
Here's an overview of the A3000 hardware. Full 32-bit bus everywhere, in 1990. It was pretty much a workstation class machine but 10x cheaper than stuff by Sun, DEC, HP, and so on. https://youtube.com/watch?v=wIsIsHeiNHA
Here's what the next A3000+ revision was going to be like. Had a DSP on board, which would have been BIG back then. But corporate politics got in the way... http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=23
▶ No.883719
>>876706
>>876707
Why did case designs go from kino to garbage in less than 10 years? remember when apple had transparent shit?
▶ No.883738>>883825
>>791824
Nice theme, mind sharing?
▶ No.883825>>883828
>>883738
I think it's just almost default fvwm, and you can just pick the colors straight from the image.
▶ No.883828
>>883825
>WM: 5Dwm
fugg.
Well, it looks like almost default 5Dwm, judging by screenshots from the website so whatever.
▶ No.884297
>>827092
>the silly fantasy trope (as seen in Tolkien's Middle-Earth maps, and basically any other fantasy art/lore) that land is either completely flat grassland OR completely flat forest area OR very steep bare roc mountains, but never anything in between
▶ No.884300
>>871121
>tfw the CRT apparently has limited memory and configuring too many display modes would cause earlier ones to become un-configured and warped again
How do CRT remember their settings anyway? Do they have some backup battery (like motherboards do for their NVRAM that holds BIOS setup settings) somewhere inside that will eventually run dry and make the monitor unable to remember anything? I seem to have at least once encountered a CRT which would lose all of its settings if left unplugged from mains for some time (also seen stereos with radio tuners which have lost the ability to remember the radio stations they were configured/tuned to).
▶ No.884301>>888987
>>876706
>>876707
>tfw you will never find a tower like this, and if you do it's with a reseller who charges an arm and a leg for it
▶ No.888984
>inb4 stop posting Windows 95
The explosion of companies taking advantage of GUIs made for some very experimental attempts throughout the 90s. Windows 95 had at least three major revisions to the GUI before RTM.
▶ No.888987
>>884301
>took advantage of the coming nostalgia wave for these machines and was practically given truckloads of them from companies and individuals
>waited a few years while personally enjoying them
>sold them for an arm and a leg because hipsters and retired sysadmins are willing to pay
>tfw I made money from garbage
▶ No.889007
>>789076
I didn't have to use it "properly", but I had it installed on Win95 for some imaginary performance benefit. The transition to Win32 killed off a lot of the fun old utilities. Sunsite.fi used to host an odd archive of DOS, Win3.x and OS/2 software.
▶ No.889024
>>791970
I have to agree with you about the CRTs. While I did have a couple of Trinitrons, most of the other CRTs had tons of problems. Flicker, burn-in and the annoying 15kHz whine are a good start. The screwball frequency settings for non-standard monitors was also pretty aggravating.
I think the best piece of MS hardware was the Sidewinder gamepad. It had a 15-pin sound card interface, and could be daisy chained. It even had six buttons on the front, so you could actually play Street Fighter properly.
▶ No.889029
>>806416
Ah, the good old days of separating the conductors with a pen-knife.
▶ No.889063>>889803
>>788604
I have two SGI Monitors, I don't have the heart to get rid of them.
I also have O2 workstations along with an O2 server.
No idea what to do with them anymore.
▶ No.889090
>>806416
Early PCs didn't need that much air flow. 80386 systems and prior didn't even have heat sinks. My 486DX/33 had a tiny 0.5 cm heat sink that simply clipped on (no thermal paste) and probably would have run fine without it since I didn't overclock. The later 486DX4 chips needed fans though.
▶ No.889803>>940332
>>889063
Are they in good shape? I heard collectors still pay well for SG stuff.
▶ No.890143>>890817
>>813003
>hackjob clones
>>813006
>All "their" mass market computers were Sinclair and IBM clones
They weren't clones, or copies or whatever your jewish infested mind tells you it should be.
▶ No.890433>>890463 >>891081 >>930416
https://wiby.me
try this search engine if you want results from websites made in the old style (without any scripts and unnecessary bloat.). Makes you feel like your browsing the 90's web. Should work decent on an old pc also. Its a fun project I've been working on for some time now.
▶ No.890463>>890699
>>890433
>funnyjunk shows up
>reddit shows up
Trash.
▶ No.890465>>890587
>>790575
their first big mistake was windows ME. the nt kernel was buggy as shit back then. this also was the case for xp. then there was vista, which was buggy in literally every other way. 7 was fine but still is botnet. 8+ totally unusable.
▶ No.890587>>890592
>>890465
>7 was fine but still is botnet.
I'm still using Windows 7. (((datamining)))
Could you please explain how it's botnet?
▶ No.890591
>>806885
>NAND floppy
>wanting blocks to be unreadable when reading
NOR floppy master memory.
▶ No.890592
>>890587
>Could you please explain how it's botnet?
Go lurk in the GPO's
▶ No.890699
>>890463
>funnyjunk shows up
>reddit shows up
lies. dont see them
▶ No.890817>>891026
>>890143
I'll admit Soviet computers are a bit of an unknown topic outside of former Soviet territory and satelite states. However- from what I've seen online, if it wasn't some crazy mainframe or minicomputer on a chip it was usually some cheap clone some guy assembled in his basement. The original stuff seems to very rare, while it's easier to find weird Russian clone machines on ebay than a genuine Sinclair Spectrum.
▶ No.891026>>891047
>>890817
That's because they cancelled all native development back in the 60s to simply clone western machines like PDP-11 and System/360.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBMPcIs9d0w
▶ No.891047
>>891026
Huh, it's interesting to see that the Russian spectrum machines ended up with standard floppy drives and more memory near the end. The most impressive part by far is converting games from 16/32 bit machines to playable form on a fucking Spectrum though.
▶ No.891049>>891060
>>858236
Reminds me of Alan Moore's keyboard (this is post cleaning).
Also, love this image. Makes me miss small screens, to be honest. It seems like everything these days is made with large HD screens.
▶ No.891060>>891064 >>891065
>>891049
floppies are 5.25-inch, for comparison
▶ No.891064>>891065
>>891060
Text is nonetheless very crisp and legible. Only monochrome black & white though.
▶ No.891065
>>891064
>>891060
Not quite as far as I meant, but I've got this 14" 5:4 laptop, and this is plenty of screen for a computer for me.
▶ No.891079
>>858236
Reminds me of that crusty laptop owned by that one britbong youtuber who stole a sink from the city.
▶ No.891084
>>858236
It's hard to breath just by staring at this picture. I can almost feel the cigarette smoke fill my lungs
▶ No.891285>>891329 >>891395
The first PC I ever bought new was a Compaq Presario Internet Learning Series machine back in 1998.
It was state of the art for the day. It had a 500mhz Pentium III first gen in it, 32 megs of RAM and a 30 gig hard drive, with a gaming port on the front just for plugging in a joystick, hidden behind a neat sliding cover. It came with a black plastic clamshell case full of software demos and Encarta '98.
I broke it so many times the first two months, just fucking around with everything. The registry, the boot sector, the BIOS, that I finally had to nut up and learn to really work on my own PCs. By the time it finally died of mobo failure, probably a quarter of the OS was custom patches I had written and installed. I'll never forget the time I deleted a folder full of porn, about 600mb in size, and the computer stopped booting until I restored the porn folder from a backup.
▶ No.891329>>928467
>>891285
Sorry to shit on your retarded larping, but you definetly didn't rewrite a quarter of the OS with custom patches. Thats terry Davis levels of autism.
Even just kernel is millions of lines of code, and thats linux or windows. You definetly didn't reverse engineer windows and rewrite millions of lines of code by yourself.
You didn't secretly develop years ahead of linux kernel team.
You larp on 8chan and have a porn folder.
▶ No.891383>>891461
How fun is the Beeb to use nowadays?
▶ No.891395
>>891285
>Pentium III
>1998
I smell bullshit (unless your dad worked at Intel at that time). The CPU you mentioned was released spring 1999.
>32 megs of RAM
Nothing special, a beefy build should have had at least 64.
>By the time it finally died of mobo failure, probably a quarter of the OS was custom patches I had written and installed.
Seems quite unlikely to me somehow.
>I'll never forget the time I deleted a folder full of porn, about 600mb in size, and the computer stopped booting until I restored the porn folder from a backup.
Uh ok, so I have been baited all along. Should have read your post from the end and I would have known in time before even bothering to reply.
▶ No.891461>>891498
>>891383
If you like text adventures and simple action games, then it's fine. The BASIC dialect on there is pretty nice too. The graphics and sound are nothing special though, even compared to a ZX Spectrum. But hey, text adventures don't need that stuff. Some games reviewed here:
http://www.bbcmicrogames.com/superior.html
▶ No.891498
>>891461
Is it worth importing one if you don't live in the UK? Any tips for getting working on different power/video systems?
▶ No.893727
▶ No.893916
>>789822
Welp, time to download this for my niece.
▶ No.901720>>901727
>>893726
What's that MIDI soundtrack? I've heard that song before somewhere. Is that Mozart?
▶ No.901727>>901749
▶ No.901749
>>901727
I've noticed the Daggerfall shop theme sounds pretty similar to that actually.
▶ No.901761>>901798
>>822068
>>821995
Woah shit, Brad Turner is the Phone Looser of America guy.
▶ No.901789
>>791991
>hashtag include less than es tee dee eye oh dot eightsh greater than newline
are these the latest algorithms from the cloud I keep hearing about?
▶ No.901798
>>901761
That's Brad Carter, you turdwinder.
Btw, how well known is the PLA in tech circles? Because I'm surprised to see it mentioned here.
▶ No.911390>>911413
The peak of technology was in the 70s
▶ No.911413>>911419
>>911390
That's probably true considering Woz took off-the-shelf components and built the Apple I. I doubt most of anyone today could take off-the-shelf components and build a computer.
▶ No.911419>>911424
>>911413
An eight year old could take an off the shelf AVR and build a computer. Woz was an idiot.
▶ No.911424>>911428
▶ No.911428>>911430 >>911436
▶ No.911430>>911431
>>911428
Where's the computer at dude?
▶ No.911431>>911432
>>911430
Did you not see her wiring it to the Harry Potter goggles?
▶ No.911432>>911433
>>911431
Your gimmick is boring, Richard.
▶ No.911433
>>911432
I'm not the one jealous of an 8 year old.
▶ No.911436
>>911428
Where's the computer?
▶ No.911452
>>788316
>how?
Double sided, double density.
▶ No.911474
>>870118
Smash dat fukn turbo button
▶ No.911619
>>788411
Someone should make a YouTube poop just with the toaster
▶ No.911863
Matra Alice, a rebadged Tandy MC-10, with some slight modifications like AZERTY keyboard layout and SCART video port. Cover illustration by famous comic book artist Moebius. You could buy a matching thermal printer...
CUTEST 'PUTER! =^-^=
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▶ No.917532>>917565 >>917963
Not 80's or 90's but using overclocked pic related right now to install ghantoo on Mac Mini G4.
Sitting in front of overclocked 15' Alu G4 right now
▶ No.917565>>917940
>>917532
>connecting it to the botnet/internet before installing gentoo
Were you born stupid?
▶ No.917940
>>917565
>running chromium over x-forwarding on Arch machine
▶ No.917963
>>917532
Emerge yaboot-static instead of yaboot
If you have ATI GPU add this to /etc/yaboot.conf and ybin -v
append="video=ofonly radeon.agpmode=-1"
You might need to tick Firewire if you use the pmac32_defconfig when building the kernel.
Other useful shit you might need.
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Safe_CFLAGS#G4_.28PPC_74xx.29
http://mac.linux.be/content/xorgconf-files
▶ No.918488
>>838635
>90s
>5" are getting outdated, but you still see them
>3" floppy is primary medum
>CD-ROMs are new thing for rich kids.
>HDDs in hundreds of megabytes
>That fucker records 2Gb on VHS tape
I think burning and unsatisfied childhood desire for that device is the reason for my current hoarding habits. That and trauma induced by running p2p over dialup.
▶ No.918636
>>805981
Another World was a masterpiece.
I wish he made more games.
I was blown away that one guy could build a game like this by himself.
▶ No.918640>>922088
Linux based car mp3 player with VFD.
▶ No.922088
>>918640
I've been wondering for awhile, with CDs being obsolete will car radios stop having CD players?
▶ No.926593>>926644
>>922126
sad thing is that hill is a wastedump now
▶ No.926644
▶ No.928447>>929331 >>929352
There will never be a Windows XP, ever again.
▶ No.928467
>>891329
Fuck man, why are you hostile? I'm not even the guy, but the desperation in your writing makes you sound like a mulatto teenager that's going to blast his schoolmates with a Hi-Point during lunch. Get help
▶ No.929143
>>791631
*recorded 2016 in mother russia*
▶ No.929325>>929353 >>930417
CRT monitors were so much better.
▶ No.929331
▶ No.929352
>>928447
But XP didn't go anywhere. There's nothing stopping you from using it.
▶ No.929353>>929374
>>929325
Why not post a picture comparing a CRT monitor with something made this decade.
▶ No.929374>>929376 >>936935
>>929353
They're still better. With a CRT you get:
- True blacks
- Warmer colors
- *Zero* latency
- High refresh rates at high resolutions
- Zero motion blur
- No backlight bleed
- Great viewing angles
- The ability to dynamically change
OLED has burn-in. IPS has egregious latency/glow/bleeding issues. VA has terrible viewing angles. Let's not even talk about TN. Lastly, MicroLED is vaporware. The fact that better technologies like CRT/SED/Plasma are dead is criminal.
▶ No.929376
>>929374
>The ability to dynamically change
The ability to dynamically change resolutions/refresh rates.
▶ No.930015
I miss Steve and his handsome face. Just look at this stunner!
▶ No.930388
>>837164
This went right in the childhood!
▶ No.930416
▶ No.930417
>>929325
Ahh, Sony Trinitron CRT! Combined with freshly seen Matrix, that name made me super hacker I am today. Yes, I went into serious hyper larp mode over that stuff as a stupid brat. Bank account is thanking me two decades later for my early career choice based on cyber larping and futuristic monitor name.
▶ No.936935>>937006 >>937013 >>940310
>>929374
and damaged vision by age 30, fuckoff CRT shill
▶ No.936946
>>789580
Wasn't Bonzi Buddy spyware?
▶ No.937006>>940448
>>936935
With your damaged cognition, the chances of you reaching 25 are near zero.
▶ No.937013>>940233 >>940234
>>936935
Yes, because everyone that grew up with CRT TVs (which, by the way, had locked/low refresh rates -- unlike CRT monitors) has eye cancer. The only conclusion I can make from your post is that you're a Gen Z kid whose testicles aren't functional yet. Don't forget -- LED backlighting destroys your eyes.
▶ No.940170
This was some good shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFfkX_ahl94
Apparently there's some talk or documentation that Brian Hook did going into detail about Q3's netcode but I can't find it any where.
▶ No.940233
>>937013
Don't forget that early Gen Z people grew up with CRTs, VHS, and PS2s though. It's the later ones that aren't adults yet that are the social media shitters.
▶ No.940234>>940235
>>937013
Explain to me the difference between CRT TVs and monitors.
▶ No.940235>>940239
>>940234
They've got different refresh rates and resolutions, but that's about all that differs other than the video interface and some smaller details like the sync signal and such.
▶ No.940239>>940242
>>940235
Video interface? Do you mean between PAL/NTSC?
▶ No.940242>>940276
>>940239
I was mostly referring to composite and RGB, but I guess that does fall into the same category.
▶ No.940260
>>789229
That was fucking badass, is there a source on this?
▶ No.940276>>940281 >>940342
>>940242
>Composite and RGB fall on the same category
NO
Composite was created so old B/W tvs could handle the modern signal with color, RGB sends each colour signal separately, and the screen mixes them, in composite videos you send the luminance signal (a black and white image, processed by the B/W tvs) and a chrominance signal, which is a mix of the red signal minus luminance signal and the blue signal minus the luminance signal, both of them modulated into a single carrier frequency.
It's like comparing .wavs to .mp3s
▶ No.940281>>940284
>>940276
I'm saying they're both standards for video interfaces/signals, not that they're identical. I'm well aware that certain video standards were designed for compatibility with older B/W equipment.
I'm pretty sure composite and RGB didn't really make their way into consumer equipment until the late 70s at the earliest however. You seem to be confusing composite video with RF/coaxial. In any case, the newer monochrome CRTs are pretty much the same technologically as the color ones, it's just that they use a tube with only a single color of phosphor.
>It's like comparing .wavs to .mp3s
As in that they're both file formats for digital audio.
▶ No.940284>>940290
>>940281
RF/coax and composite cables use the same technology, the cables are allowed higher bandwidth because they're not being broadcast, that's the only difference.
Every single one of the cables in RGB and composite are coax anyway
▶ No.940290
>>940284
RF/coax cables also carry the audio signal, unlike composite or RGB. That, and since coax uses the same frequencies as broadcast television you get much more interference and a grainier image. coax cables have a shielded solid copper core, while composite/rgb use much thinner cables with little if any shielding. assuming each signal needed for RGB video has it's own individual cable of course, and not something like SCART or VGA
▶ No.940332
>>889803
Server is shite, O2s are fine, I don't think I ever want to sell my monitors.
▶ No.940342
>>940276
Imagine being this autistic.
▶ No.940367
>>791631
Damn this actually kind of hit me in the fucking feelings.
▶ No.940368
>>791631
Could have been me with my friends. We'd haul our massive towers, monitors, speakers (including subwoofers kek) to each others houses and have all night basement lan parties.
▶ No.940383>>940414
>Us Millennials have smartphones that make us apart of an awesome global community!
I pity youse.
▶ No.940410>>940415
Ah yes, nothing beats wooing my ladyfriends on BBS's with my leet ANSI-fu back in the 90's.
▶ No.940414>>940592
>>940383
>muh millenial meme
Shut up gramps.
▶ No.940415>>940417
>>940410
While I'm at it, may as well post some of my early faggotry from a bygone era. The funny thing is that I was a skinny punk who'd never fought a person in his life, at least no fights worth talking about. I am an OG keyboard warrior. Bow down to my original greatness.
From : ME************ Number : 1268 of 16501
To : HIM********* Date : 01/05/1996 8:01am
Subject : dick Reference : NONE
Read : 01/06/1996 4:51am (REPLIES) Private : YES
Conf : 0 - Private Email
Here we go again. I just hate to do this to ya, but since you can't
seem to get onto ***'s BBS anymore, I will have to go to a BBS where you
CAN go. About ***'s, I never got you locked out of there. You got
yourself locked out by being such a hemorhoid to my three close friends,
all of whom you STILL chase around like a fly to a road apple. Really,
dude, have you know morals or whatnot? It is by far cool. And I know
nothing of you getting locked off The Lighthouse. Also, one of the
girls I talk to... and one of the girls you freaked... tell me you say I
tamper with your messages. Now where in fifty fucks would you get that?
Yes, I may have gotten the access level from ** to edit messages or
whatnot. Christ, guy, how old are you? Three? I know you have had a
peaceful slumber and all without my messages greeting you at logon, but
I am gonna be your nightmare... and lovin' every minute of it. Now, I
may be wrong about what I said on line five. Maybe you HAVE stopped
talking to them, but Kala tells me you called her recently... or maybe
it was Jess... or Kat... or that new girl you talk to... Nikki? Hmm...
anyhowz, B L O W off, dude. In all seriousness. And stop being such
a whining superfuck in Lord! No one wants your sorry, sorrow-soaked
life poured on them like some topping you would decorate a sundae with.
Christ, leave them out of it. Would it make you feel better if I got
down on my knees and puff your peter? Well, you won't get that from
anyone by whining publically, so oooooze away. There. I wonder if it
was WORTH going all the way to line 23. Have a nice day! :)
Your personal nightmare and loving it,
Zael
▶ No.940417>>940418
>>940415
From : HIM********* Number : 1278 of 16501
To : ME************ Date : 01/06/1996 5:15am
Subject : dick Reference : 1268
Read : 01/06/1996 8:44am (REPLIES) Private : YES
Conf : 0 - Private Email
You said it that is you are..
I haven't ever called any of them after they told me not to, so get your
head out of your #%$ and get a life..
I have a higher moral standard than you could ever dream about, if you
really talked to anyone who has known me more than a month you would
know that and know to give it a break..
It has been over a month since I talked to any one of them so get a
life, I never called anyone who told me not to, so either someone is
lying to you, or just two-faced..telling you one story and me another..
I had known Kala for over 4 months and only talked to her 3 times, each
when she left me a note telling me to do so, I have file captures of
messages to prove all 3..As for Jessica and Katrina, I don't know them
well enough to say why they would tell me one thing and you another, I
know Katrina is sweet and Sincere about everything and I haven't called
her since the last time she called me and asked me not to unless she
called or wrote and tell me to.. I did call Jessica Christmas Eve and
just apologized and haven't heard or thought about her or any of them
until you decided to butt in today.. If you'd drop the subject, You
probably would never hear from me again..
like I told you the first time, I won't call anyone that doesn't
tell me that I can do so and I haven't ..So take a chill pill..
Jag Man
▶ No.940418
>>940417
From : ME************ Number : 1288 of 16501
To : HIM********* Date : 01/06/1996 8:44am
Subject : dick is what you eat Reference : 1277
Read : 01/07/1996 12:53am Private : YES
Conf : 0 - Private Email
-> Whatever geek boy, I haven't talked to any one of them except when th
-> have called me in over a month since they told me in person to not
-> unless they ask me first, so get a life and pick on someone who gives
-> darn, I have a lot more morals than you could ever dream of..you can
-> any real person that has ever actually met me more than once or talke
-> to me in person more than once.. Any real person wouldn't need a chi
-> like you to tell me I'm not wanted, I never have called or talked to
-> anyone who did not ask me to first, so I'd appreciate you to quit
-> spreading lies and BS to the whole world..
Spread lies? No, just hearing them as they slip from your gaping maw.
-> Your such a wuss you hide behind messages and such, you want to settl
-> this for good, I'll meet you and take care or your wimpy li
You have seen me before, but do you remember what I look like?
Obviously you don't because you would not be saying, "Let's meet
somewhere and settle this like men." I would litterally rip your head
off and kick it up your ass. I have seen you before, and I know for a
fact that I wouldn't miss a bout with you for the world. If you want to
go that far, I will stop all plans to see to it you get what you want.
Yeah, I am 10 years younger than you, but you have NO idea how much that
doesn't make a difference.
▶ No.940448
>>937006
And with your damaged genitals we hopefully won't see any offspring as retarded as you.
▶ No.940592>>940618 >>940821
>>940414
>Shut up gramps.
>t. millenial assmad that every other generation hates him
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▶ No.940821>>943618
>>940592
Go fight for Israel, gramps.
▶ No.941010
FIrst computer was a hand me down from a small business my dad bought. It was a 286 IBM PC running DOS with a monochrome amber and black CRT. This was maybe 1990 or 1991. I was 5 or 6 at the time.
Freaked out when I discovered Tetris was installed on it. Didn’t know anyone else with a computer to play with over the modem. Kids from our street would come over and we’d compete for the high score. It was a marvel. Most of them had never seen a computer before.
Those days were short lived though. Before I knew it dad bought a 486 with a colour CRT and Windows 3.1. The GUI felt like it was from the future. It had sound. Somehow I got a hold of games like Laser Light and Commander Keen, later DOOM and Wolfebstein 3D,
At some point we got a model for it and the Compuserve service, which at the time was an AOL competitor. The first thing I downloaded was a satellite weather map from the weather channels service. It took over a minute to load and it was the coolest thing I’d ever seen.
Gaming was really starting to take off in the Pentium era. I remember being addicted to titles like Prince of Persia and Rise of Triad. Later X-Wing and the Sci-Fi Collection that included text based games like A Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy and several others. I spent hours in this cyber world in the air conditioned basement of our suburban home, having pop sicles, gaming and generally mucking about on the computer.
Somehow I don’t think I would have wanted it any other way.
▶ No.943041
Anyone here have a C64 or other commodore machine? What's it like using one these days?
commodore's story is interesting: https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=oGXkZmeGUNk
▶ No.943618
>>940821
Tell me goylineal, why would I do that?
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Video from 1993 showing Future Crew making Second Reality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIIBRr31DIU