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Can I get a rundown of the drama and the split?
It looks like the nigger went to lainchan.jp, so that seems like an improvement
▶ No.784782
>>784778 (OP)
>It looks like the nigger went to lainchan.jp, so that seems like an improvement
Didn't nigger stayed on .org and Anons left to .jp?
▶ No.784794>>822282
>>784778 (OP)
>letting a nigger run a chan
Lain has always been shit because of this.
▶ No.784810>>784831
Weren't most mods underage?
▶ No.784831
>>784810
Yes.
But now .org is run by a faggot that has simply bought the site and can't manage backups
▶ No.784840>>784843 >>784862 >>784927 >>784958 >>784997 >>785476 >>797571 >>806034
Basically Appleman is autistic, made rash decisions with out making it clear, and was really hard to try and confront. Mods were unhappy with him, and so were a lot of people. At some point Appleman couldn't get the passwords for the VPS from Kalyx because Kaylx didn't know them, so Apple tried to reset the password. Kalyx ended up getting the email for resetting the password, so he deleted the server, and promptly told every one to get fucked because "Appleman has backups".
As it turns out, Appleman did, only they were on the same server. So the site had to restart from scratch, except Appleman didn't want to create any boards outside /q/ basically /sudo/ until a month later when the community meeting was scheduled so the community could do what the fuck ever.
Seph A mod just sort of created /r/ /b/ so there'd be a place to post at the very least while Appleman man worked on what ever the fuck. Appleman then get mad at Seph, so Seph changes all links on the site to redirect to her new lainchan, lainchan.jp, where she, some other faggots, and Kalyx went. Obviously they divided what was a small, close community so there was a ton of drama there.
As for what sort of person ended up where, I'm not completely sure. After all of this I pretty much just stopped going to either for a number of reasons. .org is still run by Appleman, and he's obnoxious as all fuck, and they over-regulate everything. They ban you for the slightest shit in the name of "quality control", so I've just not had the energy. .jp Flies the fag flag. Or did for a while. They put up gay pride shit, and seriously, every one is a fag. They are all leftycuck degenerates. It's hard to really talk about your feels when every one is so blue pilled.
▶ No.784843>>784862
>>784840
I used to post there when the forum first started, but stopped after Kalyx haf an episode and nuked irc. I even wound up having my username immortalized in a pic memorializing the event.
Appleman sounds like a retard, so I guess I'll continue to stay away.
▶ No.784849>>784858 >>784862
Everyone seems to agree Appleman cannot into running lainchan, but there's no excuse for what kalyx did and it reflects really badly on .jp that they let him be an admin there. He also fucked over every user on .org by deleting all their threads. Anyway, both sites are shit.
▶ No.784858>>831155
>>784849
Where is a lain to go then?
▶ No.784862>>784864 >>784866 >>784980
>>784778 (OP)
>>784840
>>784849
>>784843
Appleman actually is pretty reasonable, sounds like none of you have talked to him
▶ No.784864>>784870
>>784862
Fuck off appleman
▶ No.784865>>790566
>>784855
/cyb/ imageboard. Named for Lain, whom they see as an aspiration.
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▶ No.784870
>>784866
>>784864
>opinion different than mine
must be that guy, or a shill.
▶ No.784889
<everyone involved is special (◡‿◡✿)
<the staff most of all
<one of them has a shitfit
<fucks everyone's shit up and then fucks off
<lol what is a back-up
This pretty much sums it all.
▶ No.784892>>790551 >>791392 >>821878
>>784855
a chan based on a really shitty anime
▶ No.784927>>785189
>>784840
You forgot .jp's fuckery with the zine. So now we won't have a fifth zine for a long time.
▶ No.784930
>>784855
A super obscure imageboard for only the best of the best hackers, it's similar to 4chan's /b/. Rumor has it that the epic hacker group Anonymous recruits their members from there.
▶ No.784958>>822182 >>831149
>>784840
>female mod
guess how I can tell that the site is shit?
▶ No.784961>>784982
>>784778 (OP)
>lainchan.jp
>no dreams board
fuggin shazbot
▶ No.784980
>>784862
I've spoken with him quite a few times, and every time he is a pain to deal with. The time he decided to just remove the board list, I was asking him about the decision, and he just started talking about how every one just takes from him, they just take and take, no matter how much he gives. He deleted the board list just to keep newfags out.
▶ No.784982
>>784961
I believe it's merged with drugs because both are very small and relate to psychology.
▶ No.784997>>785155
>>784840
>and they over-regulate everything. They ban you for the slightest shit in the name of "quality control",
>tfw you made it that way because of your constant /pol/ shitposting
kek
hope that lainchan dies out tbh
▶ No.784998
>>784855
Kalyx, you are a nigger
go be nigger somewhere else
▶ No.785021>>785155
>>784855
some weebshit site where underage kids pretend to be 1337 hackers while watching cartoon shows
▶ No.785081>>785658
Appleman doesn't deserve a lot of the flak he gets. For the most part he has been an excellent admin, especially compared to Kalyx who regularly begged for donations and under whom there was near constant drama.
Appleman is, however, very much the enlightend despot type and can be hard to deal with if you vehemently disagree with a decision or want immediate action.
Personally, this slow-moving, dispassionate style of moderation earns my respect, as does his refusal to cave in on a couple of recent occasions where some members of the community have cried for blood.
Moderation on some of the boards could be softer, in my opinion, but I can tolerate it so long as it's primarily done with quality in mind.
▶ No.785155>>785462 >>790495 >>790964
>>784997
I didn't see them regulate all the left-wing shitposting though.
>>785021
If Serial Experiments Lain is supposed to be a cartoon then you might as well call fucking Dunkirk a cartoon.
▶ No.785189>>785193
>>784927
What happened with the zine? I don't even go to Lainchan but was invited to write an article ages ago.
▶ No.785193
>>785189
Most of the zine staff went to .jp and for the fourth, the link on the cover was replaced from .org to. jp. So .jp wants to do the zine but don't have the community to pull it, and .org doesn't want to work with them since they appropriate themselves the work. You've got on one side the editors, and on the other the content pproviders.
The zine threads went meta fast.
▶ No.785208
he is an anti trump cuck also a scammer (sold l ainchan to some guy them rm'd it a few months later to make everyone go to his new one, which byf the way endorsese to comunist/antia sitesl
▶ No.785215
One of the Lainchans is run by socjus, I don't remember which one
▶ No.785462>>785594 >>785603
>>785155
Why do you weebshits get so triggered over the fact that they're cartoons?
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▶ No.785476
>>784840
I quit hanging on the Tox because the /pol/ and Lain chats merged and then most of the /pol/ guys left and the remainders were faggots.
▶ No.785519
Both are ass. Kalyx is a slippery weasel shitskin, Appleman can't into running the site.
▶ No.785520
Daily reminder /cyber/ had the last laugh, lainfags go home.
▶ No.785594>>785598 >>790964
I think Null should make his own lainchan, it would complete my chakras
>>785462
because they're not like normal cartoons, it's pretty slow and dark compared to a normal cartoon
▶ No.785598>>785603
>>785594
>A cartoon is a type of two-dimensional illustration, possibly animated
▶ No.785603>>785611 >>790504 >>790964 >>830956
>>785462
Weebs don't exist.
Why are you reverse weebs so hell-bent on attacking anime by falsely claiming they are cartoons?
>>785598
A cartoon is a specific type of animation, one that is utterly different from anime.
▶ No.785611>>785622
>>785603
you can use cartoon to mean animation of any sort.
their reference to anime as "cartoons" is retarded because of western cultures particular memes surrounding cartoons. IE, the belief that animation is mostly just for children(excepting adult comedy shows, but these retards are generally trying to equate anime to kids cartoons).
That association isn't made in the country that makes the shows generally called 'anime'. Hence, anime is usually meant for teenagers and adults, some more just for teenagers, some more for adults, etc.
▶ No.785622>>790498
>>785611
>you can use cartoon to mean animation of any sort.
That's not what it means.
▶ No.785658>>785751
>>785081
His failure to act quickly and decisively did not come from dispassion. It came from him not understanding that people view pedos with vehemence. He literally does not understand social norms.
It cost the chan it's volafile partnership and people still talk shit about the site on 4chan re. this.
He basically does not understand how normal people work so like a blind person who thinks he can see he makes up a system and uses it to justify his decision even if that system has no real input or fix-points oriented in the real world. Thus far people has had to basically yell at him every time something like this occurs until he caves.
That said he's always paid the server bills on time and he's a professional programmer so he can slowly but surely develop the site above and beyond maintaining it.
▶ No.785751>>785757
>>785658
Fuckoff applekike
▶ No.785757
>>785751
No. If Appleman had even this basic level of self-insight he would not have had these problems in the first place.
▶ No.790196
Hopefully it dies for good.
▶ No.790495
>>785155
>I didn't see them regulate all the left-wing shitposting though.
I went to Lain off and on for a while and never saw "left-wing" shitposting. I didn't even see /pol/ garbage until halfway through it's life which immediately turned me off from the whole thing.
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▶ No.790503>>790522 >>790523 >>790531 >>797574
lainchan.jp is now https://arisuchan.jp/
I think the nigger is no longer in charge
▶ No.790504>>790553
>>785603
>anime is a shitty copy of Disney that the nips had to simplify because they can't draw
>it's totally original and not a cartoon tho >:(
Weebshits are so retarded it's almost cute
▶ No.790522>>790523
>>790503
This is true. Kalyx basically ragequit a few days ago.
▶ No.790523
>>790522
>>790503
lol again?
Good. Kalyx would've ruined it a year from now anyways.
▶ No.790531
>>790503
>kalyx is gone
>domain has been changed
kek
▶ No.790538>>790542
>>784778 (OP)
The problem with lainchan is that it has lain in it.
I watched SEL in 2016 and thought it sucked hard, yet could sort of see how it would have been ok from 1998 to about 2003. Cyberpunk itself hasn't aged well.
Fans of this anime can only be the most pretentious weeb fags that ever lived, so best avoided.
▶ No.790542>>790553
>>790538
It's one of those few animes I agree with /a/ that it's boring as shit. There is nothing special about lain, literally no explanation to it.
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▶ No.790553>>790558 >>790964
>>790498
That definition is false.
>>790504
Anime is not a copy of Disney or even vaguely similar to Disney. It doesn't look like Disney, it doesn't move like Disney, it doesn't have the stories of Disney, it doesn't have Disney's philosophy towards filmmaking.
Saying that anime simplifies Disney because the Japanese can't draw is absurd. Even a mediocre TV anime today has more detailed drawings than Disney's movies did. Anime emphasizes detail whereas Disney emphasized fluid motion. Anime also has much more varied and complex animation.
Weebs stiill don't exist.
>>790542
>There is nothing special about lain
So you think shows like Lain are a dime a dozen then?
>literally no explanation to it
Every story must conclude with someone explaining everything that happened and what it meant?
▶ No.790558>>790559 >>790959
>>790553
>Anime is not a copy of Disney or even vaguely similar to Disney. It doesn't look like Disney, it doesn't move like Disney, it doesn't have the stories of Disney, it doesn't have Disney's philosophy towards filmmaking
Anime was inspired by Disney retardo. Watch 50s/60s anime, not CGI moeshit.
▶ No.790559>>790562 >>790964
>>790558
Tezuka's character designs were inspired by American cartoons, and before that (after the war) the industry looked to Disney as a model to follow. But this does not mean anime is based on Disney, because it isn't. It's completely different. It's a rejection of Disney.
>CGI moeshit
Does not exist, and what is your point supposed to be?
▶ No.790562>>790563
>>790559
>this much denial
▶ No.790563>>790964
>>790562
What am I in denial of?
▶ No.790566
>>784865
Oh, yeah, /cyb/ is a board.
▶ No.790725>>790736 >>790737 >>790771 >>791130
Daily reminder that kalyx's ex is the very definition of pig disgusting.
▶ No.790736>>790749
>>790725
kalyx is no longer with lainchan.jp, which turned into arisuchan.jp just now. So there's no reason to talk about him anymore.
▶ No.790737>>790749
>>790725
sauce? or moar at least?
▶ No.790749
>>790736
But it's fun to laugh at him.
>>790737
>wanting more of that revolting thing
disgusting.
▶ No.790771
>>790725
>racemixing cyborgs
What a time to be alive.
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▶ No.790860
>>>/cyber/ >>>>>> lainshit
▶ No.790872>>791036
>>790858
I just go there to shitpost and troll trannies and mentally ill people tbh
▶ No.790959>>791051 >>791131 >>791140
>>790558
>Anime was inspired by Disney retardo.
Agreed. Specifically, Alice in Wonderland. Anyone who thinks that the first mainstream anime/manga artists didn't take their basic female design cues from Disney's classic Alice design is deluding themself.
▶ No.790964>>791051
>>784778 (OP)
>caring about some shitty site named after some retarded japanese cartoon
>caring about drama surrounding a site with a retarded premise, retarded userbase, and retarded administration
>not realizing that namefagging on an imageboard is part of the reason this cancer exists
>>785155
<hurr cartoons aren't cartoons if they're from japaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan muh snowflake autistic hiroshima radiation afflicted island natiooooooooooooooooooooooooooon
>>785594
>>785603
>>790553
>>790559
>>790563
>it's the anime autist
Fapbaitfag, do you really want your /cow/ thread to wake up again?
▶ No.791036
>>790872
>trannies and mentally ill people
What's the difference?
▶ No.791051
>>790959
Again, Tezuka was inspired by American cartoons. Even if he had been inspired by Disney's feature films instead, so what? Anime is defined by many things, not just its initial character designs inspiration.
>>790964
>hurr cartoons aren't cartoons if they're from japaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
I never said this anywhere.
>Fapbaitfag, do you really want your /cow/ thread to wake up again?
Why do YOU want it to wake up again? Why are you still continuing this crusade? How many months has it been now? How many boards have you invaded by now?
▶ No.791091>>791098 >>791110 >>791385
>>784778 (OP)
One of the staff members of lainchan.jp is a female SJW (who is in her thirties) that cuts herself and collects beta bucks from a Pateron account that is related to a shit stream that she runs. The only "coding" that she can do is HTML, CSS, and basic JavaScript. She's probably the reason why https://arisuchan.jp/cyb/res/600.html#1271 got banned.
They also have a cult-like group called Laincorp that passes around retarded business-related ideas and goals.
No wonder the site is so shit. Stay away at all costs.
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▶ No.791110>>791122
>>791091
>>791098
She is actually a woman?
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▶ No.791130
>>790725
she has a cute face, too bad about all that hardware
▶ No.791131
>>790959
astro boy came from mickey mouse dude
▶ No.791153>>806007
DID SOMEBODY SAY CARTOONS??!
▶ No.791259
So from what I can tell it went something like this in between all the autism
>Some fags make a site dedicated to an old ass anime
>They do it in imageboard fashion
>Main guy i think its Appleman is kind of an autist as moderator
>Thinks letting bigger aspies than him be mods is a good idea
>No one can into proper site management
>Site and their chats are overrun with pedos
>Appleman apparently can not into ban pedos on website
>Other mods understand this is bad
>Other mods instead of banning pedos will ban /pol/acks instead.
>Kalyx hijacks the site with some other mods
>Appleman got it back
>They're only semi-meta relevant here because /tech/ got shilled this site and some others hard two months ago and is still being shit up
Apparently right not now they're caught up in some drama over some thirty year old guy in their "community" who was banging jailbait from the website overseas. They have relatively on topic threads concerning software which in principle makes it better than this fucking siamese silicon plant.
▶ No.791385
>>791091
Aren't you a shitlord.
▶ No.791386>>791427 >>791431 >>791493 >>797585
>>791098
>Also >>790906 for information on how she runs Laintracker with no OPSEC at all.
Apparently she absolutely does not give a fuck: https://arisuchan.jp/mod.php?/q/res/1433.html#1435
▶ No.791387
And y'all are cucks.
~ regards from a non-SJW staff member.
▶ No.791392
.org was always shitty because an applefag made it. then .jp was made and it was only 1% better. so everyone left and realized those faggots like kalyx are incapable of community management. all they're good for is mediocre web dev/design.
they put shame on the name of Lain.
>>784892
>the anime that predicted the modern internet/smartphones
>literally the NGE of the tech world
>shitty
die
▶ No.791427>>791431 >>797585
>>791386
>/mod.php?/
Fuck off you shill staff member.
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▶ No.791432>>797573
look at this garbage. isnt seph supposed to be a designer? lmao.
▶ No.791493
▶ No.791520>>797481
Lainchan went batshit insane liberal during elections. They had word filters in place that made any discussion impossible and mods crying injustice when they hit you.
Went there for lisp general, stayed out forever for good after mod abuse seeped everywhere.
▶ No.797302>>797482
russians stole JP
What now
▶ No.797481
>>791520
lisp is a mod there on a ton of boards (more than half) and he's literally a neo-nazi (thinks black people have smaller brains, women can't do real work, etc...).
The liberal moderators (junk, seph, friends, etc..) all left so basically lisp is running more than half the boards with oversight only by appleman, who as we've seen from the pedo incident doesn't want to take any mod action at all for fear of pissing off users.
I think you're remembering things wrong
▶ No.797482>>797543
>>797302
Seph stole JP and gave it to the russians.
Despite them having a "systemspace refugees" board, two of the moderators were from systemspace.
She also modded a bunch of russians from some unrelated site to "show that we trust them"
Then she removed a ton (>60%) of staff members for """inactivity""" leaving only systemspace, russians, her discord buddies and kalyx
Then kalyx noticed that it was a literal powergrab away from him and jumped ship
so now yeah it's just russians
▶ No.797543
>>797482
>Then kalyx noticed that it was a literal powergrab away from him and jumped ship
You have the timeline backwards. Kalyx resigned before all of this went down and is what instigated Seph to say fuck it in the first place. And how does one "grab power" from someone who didn't have any in the first place? Kalyx was staff in name only. I don't know why he was involved to begin with.
▶ No.797571
>>784840
I'd rather put up with the autism .org than the faggotry on .jp
▶ No.797573
>>791432
cover-spaned images, pointless font effects, and a lot of empty space seems about right for modern webshit.
▶ No.797574>>797575
>>790503
so it was redesigned to look like you're on an iphone? not surprised
▶ No.797575>>797576 >>797580
>>797574
also the color scheme looks like it was literally pulled from antifa's fucking logo. what a horrid CSS layout
▶ No.797576>>797577 >>797603 >>797637
>>797575
The only video on her youtube is some sam harris speech where he talks about removing religion from society. As if you needed any more confirmation that these people are commies.
These guys used to run an opsec general on halfchan and it was all larp and zero opsec. They just use chans as a fashion statement. I'm sure they unironically use discord too.
▶ No.797577
>>797576
the other laincahn is annoying in it's own special way. So basically you have a choice of facing visual warfare or psychological warfare.
▶ No.797580>>797587
>>797575
there is a color theme toggle in the header
▶ No.797587>>797593
>>797580
is there an option top switch off "iPhone mode"?
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▶ No.797595>>797597 >>797598
This seems to summarize the difference between the two
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▶ No.797598>>797599
>>797595
You can't anonymize WHOIS for Japanese domains.
▶ No.797599
>>797598
so basically that tld was picked for pure larping?
▶ No.797603
>>797576
>I'm sure they unironically use discord too
yep
▶ No.797637>>797694 >>797733
>>797576
Separation of church and state is not communist. Opposing religion is not communist.
>discord
Discord is a really solid piece of software, the best part being it has a webapp and can even be accessed from an IRC client using bitlbee.
▶ No.797713>>797729
>>797694
The text you type on 8chan is sitting right there in plaintext for everyone to see. Does that make 8chan spyware?
No.
Discord doesn't require a telephone to sign up and you can connect to it with Tor so it can be just as anonymous as an image board or IRC channel..
No one that uses it has any illusions of it being e2e encrypted. If they want that, they'll go elsewhere.
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▶ No.797726
>>784778 (OP)
>Can i get a rundown of the drama and the split?
Kalyx is a mentally ill nigger faggot and all the problems surrounding the Lainchans can be traced back at him or his actions.
▶ No.797727
kalyx was fired when lainchan.jp changed their name to arisuchan. so he has nothing to do with either site anymore thank god.
▶ No.797729
>>797713
>privacy doesn't matter anyway
I keep seeing this sentiment whenver lains are pressed about their shitty opsec. I thought the point of cyberlarping was to have a hyperboner about opsec while wearing goggles and latex. Take away the opsec and you have the latter. I guess that's all cyberpunk really is.
▶ No.797733>>797767 >>797813
>>797637
>Separation of church and state is not communist.
Except sam harris is a commie kike who wants to eliminate all Gods except for the state.
>Opposing religion is not communist
Marxism is the most popular political ideology in the last 200 years that advocates for the removal of religion.
Sam Harris advocates for generic state-approved "spirituality" which sounds a lot like the psuedo-religions within cyberpunk.
▶ No.797767>>797809 >>797813
>>797733
>Marxism is the most popular political ideology in the last 200 years that advocates for the removal of religion.
What's your point? They just want to replace God with the State, that's still a bad thing. Irrationality has no place in politics.
▶ No.797809>>797834
>>797767
>What's your point? They just want to replace God with the State
The accusation is that the cyber "punk" brainlet admin of arisuchan advocate for this, given her youtube channel. Try to keep up.
▶ No.797813>>797890
>>797733
>sam harris is a commie...
WRONG
>>797767
>They(marxists) just want to replace God with the State
WRONG
▶ No.797814
it's for edgy high school kids that call themselves anarchists (SJW types). shit board full of shit people.
▶ No.797833
▶ No.797834>>797890
>>797809
That wasn't the point of my post. Separation of church and state, or atheism, are not innately Marxist ideas.
▶ No.797890>>797912
>>797813
>sam harris is a commie
correct
>>797834
>new york tranny lain faggot is somehow not a marxist cunt
wrong
▶ No.797912
>>797890
Can you read? I'm not talking about whichever cunt you're talking about, just the ideas themselves.
▶ No.806007>>813198
>>791153
>tfw you'll never commit the sin of onanism in the company of 2d sprites
▶ No.806034
>>784840
seph is a lefty (((woman))) who's also the admin of the cyberpunk forum (another lefty shithole)
▶ No.813173
>can't archive.is either site
Didn't these fucking faggots learn from the last data purge?
▶ No.813198>>813210
>>806007
2D girls are pure, far more desirable than 3DPD are and quite frankly, I don't see 3DPD getting any better than they used to be.
▶ No.813210>>813259
>>813198
Anon, they're just cartoon drawings!
▶ No.813259>>813321
>>813210
And 3DPD girls are just a collection of atoms! But here is the real question: If AI becomes sufficiently advanced so that it becomes self aware, in other words becomes a person, but remains in 2D form, would it be still just a cartoon drawing? I for one welcome the future. 3DPD will become obsolete, replaced by artificial wombs, holograms, androids or AR. We just need to keep improving technology. Even if this doesn't happen in our lifetimes, all improvements we make will benefit future generations. In very distant future when humanity will hopefully become type II or even type III civilization, I would imagine being married to AI will be pretty normal. Unless 3DPD girls improve and acquire more 2D features (which is extremely unlikely as change of their behavior would require modifications to their genetic code), I don't see why would anyone want to marry or even be with one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiNPJGZGiGs
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>>784892
but you're wrong and it's really good
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>>784794
#BlackChansMatter
▶ No.822409>>831169
I'm a bit confused is Sam Hyde a communist or not?
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>>785603
>it's the fapbaitfag again
>>>/cow/264309
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>>784958
these days when i hear or see something related to women my mind automatically tells me NO!
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>>822409
Sam Hyde has gone undercover many times pretending to be Black Lives Matter, a college student, a hipster, and a transgender Daughter of the American Revolution. He has also vandilized his own Wikipedia page making him everything from a Russian Jew to a Molotto half-Pureto Rican. In reality he is a comedian whom uses /pol/ and is a WN.