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 No.1068469>>1068472 >>1068473 >>1068866 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

So /tech/ and /g/ seem to think that the new mac is LOL CRAPPLEL TAX because the base system specs could be beaten by a machine a fifth of the price.

What /tech/ and /g/ apparently are too retarded to understand is that those base system specs include a great deal of headroom.

Your mission, should you be a bad enough dude to accept it, is to build a system using all resources at your disposal that:

- Costs no more than $6000 US MSRP

- Has directly equivalent parts to the contents of the base model (pay attention to the dual 10Gb ethernet)). Thunderbolt can be replaced with USB at your discretion.

- Has the ability to be expanded with:

- At least four GPUs,

- 1.5TB of ECC memory running no slower than 2933MHz,

- No fewer than 28 cores. (You can achieve this core count however you wish, going over is fine.)

- An additional M2 drive

- Apple-specific stuff like the 2-in-1 GPU ("MPX") cards and accelerator cards can be ignored.

- All of these components must be cooled in a way that:

- The system is able to run at max CPU+GPU usage without thermal throttling or hitting TJMAX.

- The system is bearable to sit next to and usable for audio work. Consider a maximum noise level of 30DBa at 1 meter away (the level of a room fan on low from the same distance).. ideally lower.

- Isn't gamer/enthusiast or datacenter-based (no external radiators, no rackmount chassis)

- Does not require overclocking of either the CPU, GPU, or memory to hit these specs.

Can it be done?

 No.1068471>>1068475

>muh /g/

>muh /g/

>muh /g/

Why not just fucking stay there?


 No.1068472>>1068477

>>1068469 (OP)

>So /tech/ and /g/ seem to think that the new mac is LOL CRAPPLEL TAX because the base system specs could be beaten by a machine a fifth of the price.

Apple tax only applies to the fully upgraded Mac Pro anyways. The base model Mac Pro is actually priced similarly to a machine you can build yourself


 No.1068473>>1068475 >>1068477

>>1068469 (OP)

>/g/

Why don't you go ahead and delete 8chan from your bookmarks and stay there.


 No.1068475>>1068482

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>>1068471

>>1068473

>he doesn't notice /tech/ in the very second word

>he basically confirms it can't be done

>/tech/ BTFO


 No.1068476

>No a1 thousand dollar stand

It’ll be shit anyways man just give up


 No.1068477

>>1068473

You do realize there's a /g/ on 8chan, right? Are you high?

>>1068472

I don't think you can build a machine with specs that are equivalent to/beat the base model while still having the upgrade headroom that the Pro does.


 No.1068482

>>1068475

>/tech/ btfo

/tech/ never tried to argue this though. This is a discussion that only a fa/g/ could care about. Next, if I remember correctly, someone will come along and accuse everyone of being poorfags, as if the only thing worth spending money on is hardware. Then someone else will accuse everyone who uses apple products of being children or gay. I have yet to see the discussion proceed farther than that, although admittedly I haven't been to /g/ in a while.


 No.1068489

So where would this leave people deeply ingrained in the Apple monoculture who'd want something in the "traditional" prosumer segment.

Y'know, those who'd settle for a high end i7 or ryzen 7 and four stuffed ram slots plus expandability for pci-e cards and storage (and a single 10gig NIC I guess).

Seems like there's still a gaping hole there that even dongling a Mac mini or iMac with thunderbolt can't fix.


 No.1068569

>https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2019/6/3/18651208/apple-mac-pro-how-much-top-spec-price-estimate-ballpark

>OPs copy pasta

>will likely cost at least $35,000

>We start with the base Mac Pro itself, which we know Apple is selling starting at $6,000 for the base model.

>look mommy I trolled them so hard on 8chink

You can buy those expensive server motherbords and CPUs without buying apple shit.

* For 1120€ you get a 24 cores EPIC with 2GHz from AMD

* For 1270€ you get a Intel Xeon Phi 7235, 64x 1.30GHz from Intel

>(You can achieve this core count however you wish, going over is fine.)

Cores aren't everything. You also have to consider energy usage, cycles, heat development which slows the whole thing down again.

However why would you do that when consumer ARM machines will be available soon? The dev machines already have 24 cores and they will be way cheaper.

ARM isn't a duopoly either.


 No.1068580>>1068604

ecc is for fags, 99% of people won't be using 4 gpus, and ryzen gen 3 will wreck this shitcult piece of crap.

Only a macfanboi would think dual 10gb or four gpus matter for this usecase; if your company buys your tech of course you wouldn't care about the ridiculous pricing.


 No.1068604>>1068743

>>1068580

>ECC is for fags

No, ECC is for adults who need to get work done.


 No.1068619>>1068743 >>1068866

>$6000

>That fucking CHEESE GRATER design


 No.1068743

>>1068604

t. gets forced to shut down by his OS while he's "working" on something

ECC is for highly critical systems you retard. I wouldn't even put those in servers. Just wasted money.

>>1068619

To me it still looks like a trashcan. I've seen those in parks.


 No.1068866

>>1068619

It looks more like some ikea furniture to me.

>>1068469 (OP)

>Can it be done?

Probably not and I'm not willing to go through the trouble of figuring out if it is.

Trillion dollar multinational with hundreds of third party hardware sources and accountants running the numbers thousands of times > me checking pc part picker cumming in my pants to anime on the weekend




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