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The smaller the software the easier it is to make totally fireproof. The software for something like a slot machine, not counting the algorithm to guarantee profit, is trivial.

>>1066711

>The software for something like a slot machine, not counting the algorithm to guarantee profit, is trivial.

Some casino was experimenting with networked slot machines in 2006 with Gambling officials. All the slots are connected to a centralized server in the casino backroom where a licensed operator can gather and log data from all the machines on the floor, and then adjust the RNG seeds accordingly for the max house advantage while keeping people playing. Its also believed the seeds can be scripted to change based on time of day and even time of year according to expected floor traffic and demographics of the average age and sex playing that particular day. Information about this is naturally scarce however. Traditionally the way a digital machines seed was updated was by physically swapping an EPROM in the machine itself, and this had to be done in the presence of a licensed gambling official to ensure no malicious third parties could install a backdoor.

We know that whatever software these machines use are prone to bugs that could lead to higher then expected payouts

https://www.lotterypost.com/news/215240

Each individual machines chances of winning at least at one point in time, was documented internally on the Probability and Accounting Report (PAR). In the past PARs have been leaked to the internet and have given people significantly better odds at finding a payout

Also in the 90s Ronald Dale Harris, a programmer for digital slot machines, discovered RNG flaws in several machines he worked on and after he retired was able to take advantage of such flaws on machines he designed and won big

There is a bigger question: are these thousands of unused machines mining crypto?

These machines are super tamper proof these days. Trying to get to the electronics in any way basically fries them. Probably easier to just rob some people at the place.

>>1066766

> Probably easier to just rob some people at the place.

Easily half of everyone in any given Las Vegas casino is carrying a gun anon, that's not even counting security

>>1066758

>are these thousands of unused machines mining crypto?

They would need to be networked to the blockchain I think and that would compromise their security being able to phone the outside. Pretty sure that wouldn't pass US gaming regulations either

>>1066766

>>1066779

What about small machines in Vegas, like those in a Restaurant, Bar, Convenience Store, or even a Supermarket? Las Vegas has small machines for these purposes too. While still connected to the Gaming Commission, they are nowhere near as secured as the Casino's.

>>1066782

It might be the same software, but its likely the seeds are not updated as frequently either. Still, your average gas station slot machines wont have nearly as big of a payout as actual casino slots either. But thats a good potential attack to look at. Basically scope out all small gas station and convenience store slots in the Las Vegas area and then just hop from store to store, would still need some way to reliably reverse-lookup the seeds though

>>1066785

>That image

surely that's a ruse

>>1066709 (OP)

arent they basically just computers with some proprietary game program now.. the real mechanical games died a long time ago.

>>1066786

laptops with thouch screens are a real thing and they have virtual keyboard programs too. such keyboards already existed in xp.

>>1066793

duh! Probably some raspberry pie hooked up to a tablet display with constant slot games running on the background.

>>1066795

idk how they are in america but here they just have a pc in some kind of custom case and it runs linux. can be seen when its turned on. then the maintenance dudes can open the machine(the thing around the screen is actually a door) and some special maintenance interface comes up where you can do stuff.

>>1066786

Don't tell me you never seen a ThinkPad X-series Tablet before?

>>1066783

The policy is any win over $1200 in one of those places (Such as Dotty's or Terrible Herbst) requires the owner of the machine (usually JETT Gaming) to come and pay the winner. It's a tax thing. If you don't want to arouse suspicion you'd have to win small (100-500) repeatedly.

>>1066797

In America these machines used to just typically be Windows CE or occasionally some form of embedded Linux spin but the gambling regulators wised up and its all in-house software nowadays

>>1066793

Woa no shit what an incredible revelation you have made truly big brain hour right here lads

>>1066794

>>1066808

I know laptops with touch screens exist, I meant how someone can be retarded enough to use a touch keyboard in a standard laptop layout mode with the physical keyboard right there

>>1066815

Easy. They're young'uns whose parents gave them a cellphone at age 2.

>>1066786

Maybe the keyboard was broken, or the driver wasn't recognized?

>>1066847

All laptop keyboards are generally recognized under generic drivers in Windows. It would be more likely the touch screen driver not being recognized before the keyboard

>>1066782

It's not difficult nor expensive to make them tamper proof. It's usually things like a microswitch that gets triggered when opening the case wiping the firmware or, even if you cut the case open in the right places by other means, the circuity being sandwiched in PCBs you can't even cut or drill into because you'll cut very closely spaced traces, again wiping the circuity. Since it's trivial to reflash these days this isn't a problem for maintenance upgrading/looking over them, but a very big problem if you want to get at the firmware or manipulate it. Pretty hopeless.

You could just go Ocean's 12 with Julia Roberts pretending to be Julia Roberts. Or you could go the original, true Ocean's 11 with The Rat Pack and not the scientologists' Fuck Party version

>>1066766

>These machines are super tamper proof these days. Trying to get to the electronics in any way basically fries them. Probably easier to just rob some people at the place.

You realize Las Vegas was built by mafia families, yes?

>>1066709 (OP)

Here's your answer to everything:

Don't Gamble, it's a waste of Time and Money!

I mean, I'll play a Poker game once in a while (it's like Chess for the Greedy), but anything beyond that is taking your chances with a system more rigged than a Lottery Ticket.

>>1066815

>>1066847

The on-screen keyboard does have the advantage of having more characters, even in standard layout. Usually for a laptop the touch keyboard is the easiest way to write characters like þ, û, or ß. And since the on-screen keyboard normally auto-closest when a physical key is pressed, if you're typing words with many accents it can feasibly be more convenient to just use the screen for all of it.

That's surely not the case for that guy, but still.

>>1067157

Gambling is fine as long as it doesn’t become an addiction and you don’t expect to win anything