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 No.1063472>>1063478 >>1063507 >>1063510 >>1063514 >>1063600 >>1063791 >>1064253 >>1064261 >>1064402 >>1066128 >>1066462 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/

So I've been looking into GANs (Generative Adversarial Networks) and how it can be used to generate human-like faces

https://skymind.ai/wiki/generative-adversarial-network-gan

The tl;dr is this;

There's a database of say, human faces

Then there's basically a random image generator

The image generator starts spitting images to a neural network that compares the images it spits out to the database of real human faces, the neural network then reports to the image generator how likely or unlikely that image resembles a human face from 0 (not likely at all) to 100 (very likely)

At first the image generator spits out nothing but random noise. The neural network then begins reporting a lot of 0 percents to the generation software

Over time the image generator begins figuring out how to gain higher and higher scores with the neural network. After thousands of generated images the image generator gets closer and closer to 100 percent and the faces now look more human. What was once just a random image generator has turned into something that can literally create photo-realistic faces out of thin air.

My concept for a GAN run CP bot is to reverse the process.

Build a database of CP (controversial, might need some approval body) the train the neural network based on this database like normal. BUT instead of having an image generator, we simply feed it images other people have reported as CP (say, on an imageboard) and then the neural network compares the image, if its greater then 90 percent likely to be CP, then the bot bans the user. If its less then that, the AI flags a human moderator to check on it to see if its a false report and take appropriate action.

Basically use GANs to take some burden off of human moderators, very useful for websites like 8chan itself, without having to have a continuous growing internal CP database which would be more impractical and perhaps more controversial

What do you guys think of my idea?

 No.1063473>>1063474 >>1063475

Sounds like an awful idea. Facial recognition is shit already but using it for cp? It's going to mark facebook family pictures as cp 9 times out of 10.


 No.1063474>>1063475 >>1063479

>>1063473

Just don't feed it softcore shit I guess would be the only solution around that. But the results speak for themselves above. GAN based facial recognition can be very accurate


 No.1063475

>>1063474

>>1063473

Or alternatively, allow moderators to modify the algorithm by flagging false reports to the AI at first to make it more streamlined and accurate


 No.1063478

>>1063472 (OP)

Thank you OP, this is what I needed for my bot army for upcoming elections. Unique profile pics.


 No.1063479>>1063521

>>1063474

The reality of pictures like the above is that they are not inventions of the GAN, they are essentially replicas of one of the training images that has been encoded into the GAN. The GAN has simply modified it enough to make finding the original image without using a GAN nearly impossible, ironically.


 No.1063481>>1063555

>newfag doesn't know that NCMEC already has this and has implemented it into the NSA PRISM program


 No.1063487

I'll just feed it bullshit shit data and or targeted individuals of US senate so I can disrupt the US government. Thanks OP :^)


 No.1063507

>>1063472 (OP)

>Build a database of child pics

Like... instagram?


 No.1063510>>1063519

>>1063472 (OP)

won't that lead to a bot that generates CP?


 No.1063513>>1063542 >>1063785 >>1064979 >>1066232

The proper solution to CP is to legalize it.


 No.1063514

>>1063472 (OP)

Won't that lead to a bot that censors cuckime OP?


 No.1063519>>1066535

>>1063510

Yes it would, but all images produced by such a bot would immediately be detected by the same algorithm that generated it and it would immediately be banned online easily so it would be silly posting such images online. Pedos could use the bot to generate CP offline to jack off too I suppose but as long as no real children are directly involved its really no different then loli I guess. Just don't post the images online because people can easily mistake them for the real thing


 No.1063521

>>1063479

Its not that simple. The GAN isn't merely copy+pasting faces, the facial features are all generated on their own so the faces don't even resemble any found in the original datasette. Its all different


 No.1063540>>1063545

>Using GANs to create CP

wouldve been a better thread


 No.1063542>>1063546 >>1063783 >>1064204

>>1063513

>The solution to CP is to legalize it

The solution to rape is to legalize it

The solution to murder is to legalize it

The solution to antisemitism is to... nah that one is going too far


 No.1063545>>1063557

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>>1063540

Pedos pls leave


 No.1063546>>1063817

>>1063542

General Anarchy is what you're describing

https://invidio.us/watch?v=TsyIXqdMZTc


 No.1063555

>>1063481

I wasn't even joking when I said this. This is true. This should have been the end of the thread.


 No.1063557>>1063616 >>1063742

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>>1063545

It's the bourgeoisie who fuck children though


 No.1063600

>>1063472 (OP)

pedos are getting smarter as time goes on, you'll just have old shit getting reposted all over again using unneccesary power.

really pointless, its like LEA taking down pedos that collect CP. there are million other pedos like them>>


 No.1063616>>1063619 >>1063645

>>1063557

Aren't the bourgeoisie part of the working class though?

Pedophilia exists independent of wealth because pedophilia exists within a natural part of human attraction. It says in the Bible that 14 is the natural age.


 No.1063619>>1063638

>>1063616

fuck off mikeee


 No.1063638>>1063657

>>1063619

Literally who?

Again I shouldn't really say pedophilia since you're adult when you're 14.


 No.1063645>>1063742 >>1065253

>>1063616

No. They own capital and get their income unearned in form of rent, profit, dividends etc. unlike wageslaves who have sell their labour.

>Pedophilia exists independent of wealth

Sure, but the rich have the means to actually to fulfill their desires.


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 No.1063742

>>1063645

>>1063557

Pedophilia is more preeminent in poorer countries you retard


 No.1063783>>1064039

>>1063542

>it should be illegal to question an arbitrarily assigned group b-because reasons

Your nose job was botched, Malachi.


 No.1063785>>1064204

>>1063513

I think it needs an adjustment.

Not legalization, but the law on simple possession fucks things up such that child pornography is now a weapon to blackmail people, bring down websites, or fuck with legitimate Tor usage.

If someone is going to build an AI that identifies child porn, so no one has to manually deal with the problem, it's going to need a lot of actual child porn as training data such that it can properly differentiate real porn from something like the album art for Virgin Killer by The Scorpions.


 No.1063786

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Just use windows 10


 No.1063791>>1063795 >>1063797 >>1064973 >>1064982

>>1063472 (OP)

You could also just create CP that didn't exploit children. If you expand that to create videos, you can actually create fake CP that is CP but didn't actually involve any real children, so we can provide pedos with something that satisfies them but doesn't victimize anyone, kinda like sex robots were to rapists.

>inb4 v& because too progressive for Trump's america>>1063472


 No.1063795

>>1063791

they already arrest people for possession of cartoons in various countries though.


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>>1063791

>so we can provide pedos with something that satisfies them

Rope ...or a bullet.


 No.1063817

>>1063546

>not licensing everything under the sun is anarchy

oi!


 No.1064039

>>1063783

I was only pretending to be retarded


 No.1064204>>1064367 >>1064980

>>1063542

>>1063785

ooor... you could criminalize all sex from unmarried couples.

Problem solved.


 No.1064211>>1064260

Why can't a sicko use deepfakes to create CP?


 No.1064253>>1064260

>>1063472 (OP)

but what happens when pedos start using it to make CP instead?


 No.1064260

>>1064211

>>1064253

Thats fine, it would be no different then loli as no actual children are harmed. It could easily be mistaken for the real thing online, but thats mitigated by the fact the algorithm will also have the easiest time detecting and banning them vs real CP


 No.1064261

>>1063472 (OP)

Completely useless, since no law enforcement agency goes against the root cause of CP. In fact they protect that cause, because it's tied into politics, media, censorship laws, religions, and high society. If you want to stop CP, you need to answer JQ first. Nothing anyone does will help any children from getting sexually exploited as long as we not collectively face the elephant in the room...the jews.


 No.1064367

>>1064204

That does absolutely nothing about pornography.


 No.1064402>>1064542

>>1063472 (OP)

oh look another pedophile grasping at straws to justify his petabytes of cp collection.

>"buh buh it's muh GAN training set!"

likely story. i don't care, your encryption won't save you, and when the order comes down to raid your house captain of my swat team kiddo maybe itll be you come in one piece or maybe it'll be that you reached for a gun.


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 No.1064554

>>1064542

>expecting coherent posts from foaming MUH PEDOS crusaders


 No.1064973

>>1063791

Porn is not an outlet, it is fuel.


 No.1064979

>>1063513

Hello, Destiny.


 No.1064980

>>1064204

You're retarded. That will just increase quick marriages and divorces.


 No.1064982

>>1063791

Nevermind, this is the real DesTINY.


 No.1065253>>1065387

>>1063645

>They own capital and get their income unearned in form of rent, profit, dividends etc. unlike wageslaves who have sell their labour.

Interesting definition, but everyone has the chance to be able to gather profits and interests if you at least try. The majority of the proposed "working class" don't work at all and skim off of welfare. Those people would be culled through gulags.


 No.1065387

>>1065253

>Interesting definition, but everyone has the chance to be able to gather profits and interests if you at least try.

Yeah, and everyone has the chance to win the lottery, but it doesn't mean it's *likely*. The days of becoming wealthy by 'working hard' are long gone, at least in the US. Almost everyone dies in the same social class they're born in now.


 No.1065391>>1065396

This idea is retarded on so many levels.

1. It could just be used to generate CP, so it could just end up adding to the problem.

2. It's impractical that you're ever going to be able to put an upload filter in front of the entire internet.

3. There aren't any actual pedos sharing shit on 8chan/clearnet anymore. They all moved to the dark web, which can't be filtered.

4. It would further set the stage for expanding the use of automated censorship systems on the internet.

5. A 10% chance of being falsely labeled a pedophile by some shitty algorithm is way too much.

Banning any user with this algorithm would be stupid, because nobody in their right mind is posting real-life CP from their own IP address anyway. The most you'll catch are some VPNs or Tor exit nodes. The only practical use this would ever have is to produce realistic fake CP, which makes me wonder what the true motivations behind this project would be


 No.1065396>>1065440 >>1065445

>>1065391

>It could just be used to generate CP

This was already addressed in the thread an I will not be repeating myself


 No.1065440

>>1065396

>so it could just end up adding to the problem

Sorry, I don't see the problem. Please elaborate.


 No.1065445

>>1065396

Well fine, but why don't you address any of the other points then?

Of course a GAN can be used to recognize classes of images and can be trained for this purpose, and as others have already pointed out, governments have already been doing this since years ago. If you're not a government, then a project like this makes no sense at all, it's too risky and provides almost no value.


 No.1065720

in-case you guys are interested. you can always tell if a face is computer generated by the noticeably different eye brows.


 No.1066128>>1066439

>>1063472 (OP)

Why the fuck would you even want to do that. Who died and made you the biggest faggot in the universe?


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>>1063513

This guy really gets it!


 No.1066438

>clever ruse to ask /tech/ for help creating cheese pizza

well-played op


 No.1066439

>>1066128

But anon, you are the biggest faggot in the universe!


 No.1066462

>>1063472 (OP)

> Build a database of CP (controversial, might need some approval body)

Anon, they're no approval body on earth you can get to oversee this, and no regulating body on earth you can get to approve it.


 No.1066497

>We need MORE regulation of the internet. Freedom is good, but not THAT kind of freedom

I think you should get a job at the FBI


 No.1066535

>>1063519

>as long as no real children are directly involved its really no different then loli I guess

<implying there are real children directly involved in CP

it's just 1's and 0's, retard

literally no different from loli once it gets out




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