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 No.1024147>>1024185 >>1024200 >>1024298 >>1024360 >>1024374 >>1036750 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

>wake up

>turn on pc

>no working init found

woah, thanks systemd!

 No.1024185>>1024186

>>1024147 (OP)

>arch

makes me rethink my idea to try it, thanks anon.


 No.1024186>>1024428

>>1024185

Artix is the way to go.

Or void. Or hyperbola. Or alpine. Or, yes, gentoo.


 No.1024199

>duplicate thread


 No.1024200>>1024209

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>>1024147 (OP)

You probably uninstalled systemd's init (whatever its called). You're gonna need to get a bootable arch stick and chroot into it so you can fix your fuckup.


 No.1024209>>1024225

>>1024200

Can't you just tell the kernel

init=/bin/bash
to get a root shell and fix it then?


 No.1024210>>1024216 >>1024389

>0xffffffff80000000-0xffffffffbfffffff

64-bit and IPv6 were a mistake. Comfy 32-bit addresses (both memory and network) were comfy.


 No.1024212>>1024291

I too have System D Woes. My Raspberry Pi doesn't seem to want to shut down cleanly any more. It hangs trying to delete a LSB swapfile requirement from /var/swap but I don't remember ever having a swapfile. I made a swap partition on the SD card just so I won't get out of memory condition but the thing stays up for months without using it or with barely using it. Now I have a swapfile? News to me!

Just System D things.


 No.1024216>>1024219

>>1024210

This ass hole doesn't want the IoT and Africa/South-East Asia to get on the internet. You bigot, 4 billion+ IPs is NOT enough.


 No.1024219>>1024359 >>1024389

>>1024216

IPv4 NAT oughtta be enuff for anybody

Also, blame those who decades ago allocated a whole /8 block to only loopback, and did other similarly silly things (such as whole former class E, i.e. 240.0.0.0/4 is unusable because hurr muh "experimental/reserved for future use" but no IPv4 implemention is capable of supporting it).


 No.1024225>>1024241 >>1024259 >>1024317

>>1024209

Init doesn't work like that.


 No.1024241>>1024250 >>1024664


 No.1024250>>1024259

>>1024241

>expecting lennart to either know how init works or be honest if he does


 No.1024254>>1024386

>panic

you fucked up so bad even the computer is panicking


 No.1024259>>1024267 >>1024283 >>1024664

>>1024225

>>1024250

It literally says "try passing init= option to kernel" in OP's picture. init=/bin/bash is an example of that, which should just land you in a root shell (for best effect pass the rw parameter too so / is mounted in read-write mode and you don't need to remount it manually to make changes to the system).


 No.1024267>>1024278 >>1024301 >>1024317 >>1038216 >>1038232 >>1038454

>>1024259

>anyone who can edit kernel parameters on boot (99% of the time trivially done at the bootloader screen) can get root access

not even windows is that bad, you cannot log on as local admin without a password by just trivially changing a boot parameter lol


 No.1024278>>1024281 >>1024282

>>1024267

You still need root password to access the shell


 No.1024281>>1024332

>>1024278

No you don't lol. That's why to reset the root password you can tell the kernel to just start a shell instead of an actual init process.


 No.1024282


 No.1024283>>1024293

>>1024259

> not init=systemctl-bash

You know it's coming. You just know it.


 No.1024291>>1037840

>>1024212

>swapping on an SD card

Heh


 No.1024293

>>1024283

>not "init=systemctl-bash" as a parameter to systemd-krnl


 No.1024296>>1036730

File (hide): b3094931fc43b8a⋯.png (107.56 KB, 1051x664, 1051:664, this_literal_thread.png) (h) (u)

kekkity


 No.1024298>>1024311

>>1024147 (OP)

>>wake up

<Grab a brush and put on a little make up.

<Hide scars and something something shake up.

>no working init found

Linux kernel is telling you that systemd does not constitute a working init.

What did you do yesterday before going to sleep? Doesn't seem likely that it would stop working on a whim like that, even for Poetterware.


 No.1024301>>1038232

>>1024267

>not even windows is that bad, you cannot log on as local admin without a password by just trivially changing a boot parameter lol

You can rename the ease of use executable and copy cmd.exe in its place and gain a Administrator command line by clicking the accessibility button on the login screen. This can be done from the built-in Windows recovery prompt. It's just as trivial to do and the sanest way to force your way into a Windows machine without external tools in my experience.


 No.1024302>>1024305

>not wanting an OS that just werks


 No.1024305

>>1024302

DOS just works. Old computers just work. This millions of lines of systemd and cianigger kernel doesn't.


 No.1024311

>>1024298

I don't think you trust in my init system suicide.

I cry when Pottering deserves to DIIEEEEEEEE!


 No.1024317>>1024664 >>1028961

Boot into shell, generate initrd, reboot. If that fails for some other reason: boot into a livecd, archchroot into the actual install, generate initrd, reboot.

>>1024225

Yes it does you dumbass, otherwise the init couldn't be done by a bash script. Changing it to bash is commonly done to solve a problem since it'll give you a root shell at the beginning of boot.

>>1024267

>you cannot log on as local admin without a password

You can't. Don't assume everyone else is tech illiterate. With physical access it's game over, one could overwrite the whole system if need be.


 No.1024332

>>1024281

There is a configuration to require a password for single used mode.

Regardless, if you actually cared you'd have an encrypted root


 No.1024350>>1024352 >>1037519

I hope that's because of systemd's (((bug))), not because OP removed it accitentally.

I just like, when things I don't use, break.

SystemDick port to Windows, MacOS and OpenBSD when?


 No.1024352>>1024356

>>1024350

You don't need a SystemDicks port for Windows since it can run svchost.exe natively.


 No.1024356

>>1024352

>You don't need a SystemDicks port for Windows since it can run svchost.exe natively.

Well yes. I just would like to see something as bad as systemd on windows, so it would be funny.

>Implying that any system needs systemd.


 No.1024359>>1024363

>>1024219

NAT is the worst hack in the history of the internet and it should be abolished.

Kill yourself.


 No.1024360

>>1024147 (OP)

Install Gentoo when you get tired of this shit.


 No.1024363

>>1024359

>let's have bots, skids and chinks continuously portscan each of my computers/devices rather than just the WAN interface of my internet-facing router


 No.1024374

>>1024147 (OP)

Install Void when you get tired of this shit.


 No.1024386

>>1024254

>We went to lunch afterward, and I remarked to Dennis that easily half the code I was writing in Multics was error recovery code. He said, "We left all that stuff out. If there's an error, we have this routine called panic, and when it is called, the machine crashes, and you holler down the hall, 'Hey, reboot it.'"


 No.1024389>>1036700

>>1024210

>64-bit and IPv6 were a mistake.

>Comfy 32-bit addresses

Nigga you're not expected to handle either manually most of the time, and being limited to sub-4GB of RAM is not comfy at all.

>>1024219

>NAT

Shiggy diggy


 No.1024415>>1028958

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 No.1024428>>1024673 >>1024683

>>1024186

What are your thoughts on devuan?

I keep getting banned from their DNG list, even though they cited an article and anti-systemd activism I did as a reason to start the distro.

(I was "SGryphon") (on distro watch article) http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20141027

>VUA: It will be a governing body that puts the benefits of the users first, not the mystification of a "doacracy" delivering all the power to the package maintainers.

>Originally, Debian was created as a universal operating system for the users. The Free Software movement itself is there to defend users' rights. Sgryphon explains it well in this thread. ( http://www.debianuserforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=3031 )

>We will likely reproduce the governing body of Debian to follow its original mandate, with the advantage of starting small and more focused, hopefully with less pressure from the interest of commercial developers.


 No.1024664>>1024830

>>1024317

>>1024241

>>1024259

idiots, if you set it to bash it won't boot your system


 No.1024673>>1024831

>>1024428

I use devuan. Not daily though. It's pretty good and I finally put an end to my distro hopping. It's basically just debian, so you have all the support you need,and the majority of stuff works with it.


 No.1024683

>>1024428

> http://www.debianuserforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=3031

> The requested topic does not exist.

Looks like you're banned from the Internet, my dude. Should have just pulled a Terry Davis and wrote your own OS from scratch.


 No.1024830

>>1024664

>idiots

idiot, it's not about "booting your system" (as in loading all drivers, starting all daemons, going to multiuser mode and loading X etc.) but just about mounting / and dropping you into a root shell.


 No.1024831>>1028929 >>1037841

>>1024673

Has Devuan stood the test of time and proven itself? what about its predicted longevity? how can an eventual scenario where it cannot continue because Debian has become too hard-dependent on systemd be avoided/prevented?


 No.1028929

>>1024831

I'm not a linux expert so I would not know, but probably fine with some minor bumps.


 No.1028958


 No.1028961

>>1024317

>With physical access it's game over, one could overwrite the whole system if need be.

>what is FDE

of course they can overwrite but not read what was encrypted


 No.1036700>>1036811

>>1024389

One shouldn't need more than 4GB which is the problem in today's software.


 No.1036730

>>1024296

underrated

kek


 No.1036750

>>1024147 (OP)

>wake up

>turn on pc

>no working CP found

woah, thanks 8chan!


 No.1036811>>1036943 >>1036951 >>1037109

>>1036700

>who needs more than 64k


 No.1036814>>1037174

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Arch

'nuff said


 No.1036943>>1037174

>>1036811

>HURRRRR text and some simple logic to position it should take gigabytes of memory

>HURRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Man, imagine what would happen if your kind was allowed to develop the web.


 No.1036951>>1037174

>>1036811

This but unironically.


 No.1037109>>1037118

>>1036811

I wish I only needed 64k to shitpost. I also wish textboards were still relevant.


 No.1037118>>1037125 >>1037452

>>1037109

You could probably shitpost under 12MB on x86 if you were autistic enough using consumer off the shelf software and gentoo. But under 640KB is a tough task, you probably could get close on ARM though. Personally my setup uses like 300MB for everything to post, and I still have some trimming I could do which is mostly the linux kernel having memory leaks out the ass.


 No.1037122

Here's a guide to get close https://archive.fo/qQjyg but you will have to be more autistic then him to get a working text browser without SSL that is statically linked in under 640KB.


 No.1037125>>1037127

>>1037118

some simpler things like nntpchan would probably work better from those really minimal systems. anything that needs a full web browser to work wont ever be really minimal.


 No.1037127>>1037131

>>1037125

You can shitpost here using links or lynx you faggot. No javascript or CSS needed only the html parser and submitter.


 No.1037131

>>1037127

you can post or read posts there with netcat if you want. does not require any complex parsers as long as you can connect to the server and send some simple commands to it


 No.1037163

>ever turning off your computer

You guys just don't get it. If you want to avoid systemd crap, just eliminate your need for an init system entirely :^)


 No.1037168

runit is comfy and much faster than systemd.


 No.1037174>>1037531

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 No.1037452

>>1037118

we need an msdos 8chan client


 No.1037519

>>1024350

Systemd was made so they can just transition windows to linux. Imagine how many poojet devs on xda will love this, also now that windows has an indian CEO


 No.1037531>>1037533

>>1037174 My cat typed those replies.


 No.1037533

>>1037531 So it's not my fault, jurors!


 No.1037840

>>1024291

It never hits the swap, but I’d rather have it in an emergency in case I run out of memory.


 No.1037841

>>1024831

Yeah eventually they will have to fork. Currently on Devuan, I’m gradually switching everything I can to OpenBSD. I need Mathematica though, so I can’t completely move over yet.


 No.1038216

>>1024267

You need physical access to the machine to do that. Even then have fun trying to unlock my encrypted root partition.


 No.1038232

>>1024267

Windows anon here. Just wanted to tell you what >>1024301 wrote.

>ease of use executable

utilman.exe

>Administrator command

Incorrect. System rights. It will tell you if you type whoami. System>Admin>User

If you have physical access only full disc encryption will prevent people from looking at your data.


 No.1038454

>>1024267

you can bypass all windows security things with a linux live distro. only encryption keeps your data hidden from people that want it


 No.1046353

install gentoo




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