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 No.1019332>>1019360 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

It seems everybody is displeased with the major borwsers: Firefox, Chrome, and Internet Explorer/Edge. Some have turned to forks of these projects, but there are often only marginally better in a few areas and much worse in others. They all suffer from terrible memory leaks and ridiculous bloat, 200MB for a firefox browser install.

Optimization is dead. That art and once (and in my opinion always needed, why not have things run better?) We have all these abundance of resources, fast CPU, GPU, RAM, storage, etcetera. What is done with these? Write the worst, bloated code possible and put the burden on the end user to need a GB to run 5MB JS/other nightmares web pages. Are the standards so fucked no one can write a functional modern browser?

This applies across the board with all applications (good God the 100+GB games, what if I was in a bandwidth restricted area, not much space, or wanted to play offline? I would have to pirate a repack, great business model locking your customers out of their own shit, it works apparenlty fuck people and thier scraps) . Can those niggers do me the courtesy of giving me a physical copy of a game I purchased. A web browser seems like a good place to start for this question. Why hasn't it been done when it seems like more than enough would be interested. Not even feature filled fleshed out browser, just a proof of concept, minimal browser that can handle a modern web page without the drawbacks mentioned formerly. I know about some other small browsers e.g. dillo that are old and break a lot are there any project like that, but modern?

 No.1019335

getting this out of the way:

https://suckless.org/rocks/

http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/

https://github.com/mayfrost/guides/blob/master/ALTERNATIVES.md

okay, to actually get to what you're asking, OP, first you have to define what the fuck you mean by a modern browser; a lot of software projects become bloated over time due to feature creep. If by a modern browser that implements the entire paintrain that is some sort of Javascript and plugin support, then how does it use resources on the target machine to achieve this goal?

>Why hasn't it been done when it seems like more than enough would be interested.

That's just it

for real RAM nazis we already have w3c, links, lynx, etc.

for "just good enough" people there's already things like Dillo or Surf

if you want to create a new project for a fully-featured browser then you are competing with all of the other forks for people to actually support with code contributions, which is to say unless this project was the work of one Terry-tier madman it needs to create a public image of something worth contributing to and supporting, and this would take a clarity of vision to define exactly 1. What does the browser do and do well? 2. how does the browser do it? 3. what does the browser not do? 4. what software implementations does the browser use to accomplish this?

If you can answer these in a concise and positive way, and these conditions aren't overlapping with that of another browser, then you have a chance.


 No.1019360

>>1019332 (OP)

>minimal browser

>handle a modern web page without the drawbacks

These are like mutually exclusive goals. Web tech itself is so damn bloated there's no way to make it functional without equally bloated browser.




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