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 No.1018164[Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

 No.1018167

lol


 No.1018172>>1018246 >>1018381

>GPC-Slots 2

Hello MikeeUSA. You can't rescind the GPLv2 btw.

Also why did you write of yourself in the third person?


 No.1018206

based

Can't wait until the linux kernel gets btfoed as well


 No.1018246

>>1018172

MikeeUSA may be based, but he really needs to pay for an actual lawyer and stop being a sperg. Hitler did not die for your faggotry


 No.1018256>>1018258

>

The original author, after years of silence, notes that the "Geek Feminist" changed[1] a bunch of if-then statements which were preceded by a loop waiting for string input to a switch statement. The author reportedly noted that to use a switch statement in such an instance is no more preformant than the if-thens. Switch statements should be used where the input to the switch statement is numerical, and of a successive nature, for most efficient use of the jump table that is generated from said code.

<The author reportedly was offended, after quiet observation of the group, that the "Geek Feminists" mocked his code, mocked his existence as a male, and never did any work on the code afterwards and never updated to include new slot machines added to the original code by author subsequently.

<The copyright owner has reportedly watched quietly as each year the "Geek Feminists" published a recount of their heroic efforts regarding his code.[2][3] Presumably he has now had enough of it all...

<The author notes that the (((SF Conservancy))) attempts to construe a particular clause in the GPL version 2 license text as a "no revocation by grantor clause", however that clause states that if a licensee suffers and automatic-revocation by operation of the license, that licensees down stream from him do not suffer the same fate. The author of "GPC-Slots 2" reportedly notes that said clause does only what it claims to do: clarifies that a downstream licensee, through no fault of his own, is not penalized by the automatic revocation suffered by a licensee he gained a "sub-license" from (for lack of a better term.)


 No.1018258>>1018262 >>1019386

>>1018256

https://readlist.com/lists/gentoo.org/gentoo-user/42/213256.html

'

Yes they can, greg.

The GPL v2, is a bare license. It is not a contract. It lacks

consideration between the licensee and the grantor.

(IE: They didn't pay you, Greg, a thing. YOU, Greg, simply have chosen

to bestow a benefit upon them where they suffer no detriment and you, in

fact, gain no bargained-for benefit)

As a bare license, (read: property license), the standard rules

regarding the alienation of property apply.

Therein: a gratuitous license is revocable at the will of the grantor.

The licensee then may ATTEMPT, as an affirmative defense against your

as-of-right action to claim promissory estoppel in state court, and

"keep you to your word". However you made no such promise disclaiming

your right to rescind the license.

Remeber: There is no utterance disclaiming this right within the GPL

version 2. Linus, furthermore, has chosen both to exclude the "or any

later version" codicil, to reject the GPL version 3, AND to publicly

savage GPL version 3 (he surely has his reasons, perhaps this is one of

them, left unstated). (GPLv3 which has such promises listed (not to say

that they would be effective against the grantor, but it is an attempt

at the least)).

The Software Freedom Conservancy has attempted to mis-construe clause 4

of the GPL version 2 as a "no-revocation by grantor" clause.

However, reading said clause, using plain construction, leads a

reasonable person to understand that said clause is speaking

specifically about the situation where an upstream licensee loses their

permission under the terms due to a violation of the terms; in that case

the down-stream licensee does not in-turn also lose their permission

under the terms.

"


 No.1018262>>1018264

>>1018258

"

Additionally, clause 0 makes it crystal clear that "You" is defined as

the licensee, not the grantor. Another issue the (((SFConservancy's))) public

service announcement chooses to ignore.

Thirdly, the (((SFConservancy))) banks on the ignorance of both the public and

the developers regarding property alienation. A license does not impinge

the rights of the party granting the license in a quid-pro-quo manner

vis a vis the licensee's taking. A license merely grants permission,

extended from the grantor, to the licensee, regarding the article of

property that is being impinged. A license is NOT a full nor is it a

permanent alienation of the article(property) in question. The impinged

property, being under a non bargained-for temporary grant, can be taken

back into the sole dominion of the owner - at his election to do so.

Now as to the 9th circuit appellate court's decision in Jacobsen v.

Katzer . While the court waxes eloquently about opensource licenses,

even mentioning the word "consideration" in it's long dicta, when it

comes time to make the binding decision the court found that the lower

(district) court was in _ERROR_ regarding the application of

contract-law principals to the Artistic License, regarding the case, and

instructed the lower court to instead construe said license as a

Copyright License.

The (((SFConservancy))), and (((Bruce Perens))) have chosen to:

1) Rely on the dicta. (non-binding - "some things could be contracts -

opensource is great")

2) Ignore the actual ruling. (Binding - Copyright License - Not

Contract)

3) Ignore that this case was about the AL, not the GPLv2

4) Ignore the existence of different jurisdictions.

(Why file in the roll-the-dice 9th district if you can file in a

district that has personal-juristicion over the defendant and is much

more consistent in it's rulings?)

5) Ignore all established law regard property licensing, contract

formation, meeting of the minds, what consideration is etc.

Which is not surprising considering the desire of people like (((Bruce

Perens))) is to rob MEN of EVERY benefit of their Labour and every speck of

happiness in life and to transfer those benefits to WOMEN and those who

support women.

(This is why people who are like (((Bruce Perens))), the (((SFConservancy)))

menbers, and the (((CoC supporters))), banned men from taking female children

as brides: in contrivance to the law of YHWH (Devarim chapter 22 - -

verse 28 (na'ar (LXX: padia)), and continue to uphold that ban

world-wide, and seek to destroy ALL cultures that do no bend to their

will.... who are not idolators of Women)

Look, you may love your users, you may love the people who edit your

code in their home or office; but the fact of the matter is...

They have done nothing for you, they have promised nothing to you. They

CANNOT hold YOU.

You have the right to rescind at any time, and remove your work from any

future versions of Linux. And you might consider doing so if YOU are

done harm.

Don't let the insatiable, never-satisfied, public fool you into thinking

otherwise.

And, yes, I am a lawyer.

And, no, unlike the (((SFConservancy))), I did not have to call upon outside

counsel to analyze the fact pattern. (And even then all they could come

up with was statements using weasel words "may" etc: not even wanting to

commit to their clearly-disingenuous publication)

(Note: If you would like to read a nice discussion on the topic, here is

one http://illinoisjltp.com/journal/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/kumar.pdf

)

"


 No.1018264

>>1018262

"

On 2018-10-25 08:19, (((Greg Kroah-Hartman))) wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 07:56:26AM +0000, visionsofalice

> wrote:

>> The linux devs can rescind their license grant.

>

> No they can not, please do not keep spreading false information.

>

> greg k-h

On 2018-10-29 22:31, (((Bradley M. Kuhn))) wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 07:56:26AM +0000, visionsofalice

> wrote:

>> The linux devs can rescind their license grant.

> Greg KH responded on Thu, 25 Oct 2018 09:19:11 +0100:

>>> No they can not, please do not keep spreading false information.

>

> I was explicitly cc'ed on this thread by visionsofalice. I've read the

> whole thread, and the only useful thing I can contribute here is to

> agree

> with Greg and additionally provide some backup research on the point:

> https://sfconservancy.org/news/2018/sep/26/GPLv2-irrevocability/

>

> Software Freedom Conservancy engaged our legal counsel to write a new

> section for the Copyleft Guide that further explains the irrevocability

> of

> GPLv2. We published this when others raised these specious claims back

> in

> September. Direct link to new section:

> https://copyleft.org/guide/comprehensive-gpl-guidech8.html#x11-540007.4

>

>

> HTH,

"

<no it can't, just look at the sources we just generated for sources goy


 No.1018270>>1018276

Is /pol a jewish board?


 No.1018276

>>1018270

100% Mossad OP to ruse people into thinking Jewish people and Israel have any real power. It's the Saudis running the world. Just kidding, it's the Vatican


 No.1018288

Now this is epic


 No.1018379>>1018412

spread the news if you want the wind to catch it.


 No.1018381

>>1018172

Give legal basis for your claim that the copyright owner cannot rescind the license.

By default, it is one's legal right to end a license at any time: just as you may kick an unwanted guest off your property at any time. What was this "MikeeUSA" paid by "Geek Feminists" to forgo this legal right?

What bargained-for consideration was there? We can see that this is not a case of a promised transfer to a charity organization (it is not a transfer at all).


 No.1018393>>1018412

cant bump this?


 No.1018412

>>1018379

Actually about a decade-old piece of shit news you brainlet

>>1018393

Because this is a shitty thread about old news regarding that pedokike.


 No.1019386

>>1018258

>All rights granted under this License are granted for the term of copyright on the Program, and are irrevocable provided the stated conditions are met.

I'd say that this is pretty good reason to think why GPLv3 would not be revokable.




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