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 No.1002418>>1002514 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

Its interesting how much pseudo science surrounds some of Tesla's patents. But here is just a no bullshit rundown on the immediate properties of the coil that Tesla states in his patent is to be used as an electro-magnet coil.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmX-T5Qvaf4

Using a Neodymium magnet and a 9v battery we see the interaction of the magnet to the coil.

>Observations:

Neodymium magnet will align perpendicular to the core within the area of the coil up until approaching core.

N. Magnet will align parallel to the core while in the area of the core or close to it.

N. Magnet will not be affected if on the outside of the the area of the coil in any way.

 No.1002442>>1002537

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Sup Mike.


 No.1002452>>1002537

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Tesla's bifilar coil is also a capacitor in which the two adjacent wires form the 2 conductors in each end of a capacitor.

Since the second wire in the coil is connected in series with the first wire in the coil, it lets electricity flow in the opposite directions, the magnetic field flow created by the currents flowing negates one another https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bifilar_coil

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For further reading, here's the Tesla patent for the flat bifilar coil;

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/coil_electromagnets.pdf


 No.1002464>>1002480 >>1002537

looks like a weirdly shaped inductor to me. nothing really special. but at the time it might of been. it might have a strange magnetic field it induces. not really puesdo science.


 No.1002477>>1002481 >>1002489 >>1002537

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yea well, combining all those overhyped documentaries that promoted ayylium and anti-government shit in early 2000s by "History" channel and a lot of pseudo intellectuals that read few lines about how Edison fucked over Tesla and jerking off to their Mensa score little placards or what have you.

Listen, I might be a little extreme in showing this opinion but I think Tesla, and all these "super duper ultra" geniuses like Newton and such that didn't reproduce but were just autists with massive egos, they're all just losers.

Think about it, you dedicate your whole life, your brain power, you push your body to limits of your mental capacities, and for what? What is your legacy?

<"The scientists biggest achievement is to have his last name written in a lowercase"

Yea? Oh big fucking achievement buddy.

<"Well, at least he put his name in history books, what have you done?"

If your biggest achievement is to have some kind of symbolic bastardized cookie cutter image of yourself used for political and societal propaganda few years ahead then be my fucking guest. Nobody knew Tesla and nobody fucking cared for his. Even his diaries give just a glimpse of who he really was. He was forgotten long fucking time ago.

<"well, he gave a lot of to progress of humanity"

So fucking what? What did he get in return? Some autists clapping their hands who think they're the next Tesla? Humanity is overrated.

Just a bit of an edgy rant there, but Tesla fanboys are worst and they give me bitter taste in my mouth whenever I try to study some actual shit. I won't even go to retell the story of that fucking snake oil merchant trying to sell their orthopedic body pillows that "have Tesla-like coils in them that help you get in tune with Schumann resonance" shit that I just question bashed him into silence.


 No.1002480>>1002485 >>1002537

>>1002464

A coils go in clockwise and B coils go counter clockwise, when current goes in the coil the magnetic fields cancel.

That is the whole fucking discussion.

What this means in question of inducing voltage through outside magnetic field? Voltage can't be induced.

What this means in question of RLC AC circuitry?

Well I would guess that the inductive L component is really high with this inductor compared to same simple coil with same length wire mainly because the magnetic fields of wire fight each other for drastic change of current flowing through it that induces said magnetic field.

All in all, clever design, dumb for use in anything other than circuits where you need high inductivity compared to resistance of coil.


 No.1002481>>1002484

>>1002477

do you even knew how tesla was in his day? In his height he was celebrity. the bitches wanted him but he was too autistic to get to know any girl. (he wrote about how he liked girls) he sat down and ate with a bunch of famous people every day. in the end he went insane and kept pushing the wireless power meme. his legacy is being taught about in every single electronics class so basically every single electrical engineer knows about him and his inventions and innovations. while you are a code monkey, IT, or neet doing nothing all day and not popular and not getting the bitches. stay sad fag.


 No.1002484>>1002497 >>1002532

>>1002481

first of all, I am EE student with scholarship and with a girlfriend

second of all, even with all his fame and pussy juices calling his name he is a fucking loser. Even more so.

Think about it. He is the hottest thing around. A lot of money. People know him. Intelligent. Good looking for the times. Women basically throwing at him as you said it. AND? He probably couldn't even stay quiet long enough for a cunt to ride him. Probably sperged all over while people told him to calm his tism.

He is a loser. He died alone and pennyless. His legacy is a lot of autistic fags like you that jerk off to his picture of tesla coil going off while he thinks profusely in the circus arena or whatnot.

He is a loser and you are a loser too for getting offended that I tried to shit on your idol.


 No.1002485

>>1002480

if there is no magentic field then it cant be an inductor. inductors store the energy in the magnetic field that's how they work. so what does it mean for RLC circuits? well it wont replace inductors. if you read the wikipedia page youd know this. youd also know the reason this thing exists because "The bifilar coil (more often called the bifilar winding) is used in modern electrical engineering as a means of constructing wire-wound resistors with negligible parasitic self-inductance."


 No.1002489

>>1002477

Nobody is forcing you to be a scientist or mathematician you autist. You seem to be mad at Newton and incredibly mad at Tesla because they lived their lives like they wanted instead of doing whatever retarded shit you wanted them to do. I think the actual reason is the (admittedly annoying) "I luv SCIENCE! XD" types triggering you, but then you should direct your silly anger at them instead.


 No.1002497

>>1002484

Fuck off you loser who's spending his time on a dead imageboard ranting about men who will be relevant throughout human history while you'll forever stay an irrelevant loser.


 No.1002514>>1002537

>>1002418 (OP)

Is this an /x/ thread or /sci/ thread? Because if latter, there's nothing worthwhile to be found. Tesla's electric devices are basically funny shaped transformers and oscillators, we've invented better shit since then.


 No.1002532

>>1002484

k.i.k.e.


 No.1002537>>1003078

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>>1002464

>>1002442

Yo!

>>1002452

Yup, but this is true of all coils. Inductance, Capacitance, and resistance.

Tesla claimed in the patent that this coil has less inductance and from the tests I did it seems to be true in some regards. There are NO fields on the outside of the area of the coil unless most coils that will radiate out, this radiates in and vertically.

>>1002464

I think Tesla intended it as a primary coil for sure, but I see no one using it that way today.

Most videos I see about this coil are very philosophical or free energy kind of things. Thus why I mention the pseudo science that surrounds the perception of it., not the patent itself. Sorry for confusion in that regard.

>>1002477

I think there is an autism argument to be made, but they definitely were massive contributors to society. Sometimes people you underestimate may surprise you.

>>1002480

Transformers literally work by inducing EMF and Magnetic flux to increase voltage.

Tesla's patent states its probably use in AC, my best as a primary coil.

It seems to "direct" its inductive field, as it does not radiate out of the area of the coil. Thats probably the most interesting thing about this magnet test.

Tesla claims a low self inductance in the patent, will need to verify its capacitance, inductance, and resistance properties as it doesn't follow models of coils I have the formula on hand for.

>>1002514

We literally use Tesla tech today. I invite you to explore his letters to the NYT (they have an archive) and Google has a patent search. Read all of his works directly and avoid the /x/ type interpretations.


 No.1002548>>1002711

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Those are used in wireless chargers


 No.1002711>>1002888

>>1002548

That looks like two double coils stacked in opposite directions.

If you think about the right hand rule it changes the geometry of the field compared to Tesla's patent. The vertical biflar winding it likely different in geometry from a horizontal arrangement.


 No.1002888>>1002960

>>1002711

It works exactly the same

Stop thinking two dimensionally


 No.1002960>>1003273

>>1002888

I'm doubtful is exactly the same as the field lines would plot in a very different manner. Think about the direction of current, the fields produced and the force.

I was tell you then to stop thinking 2 dimensional in assuming wires act the same in different configurations.


 No.1003078

>>1002537

>Yup, but this is true of all coils. Inductance, Capacitance, and resistance.

Yes all coils have some but this one was specifically made in such a way as to maintain the potential between the 2 opposing wires which makes it work better for capacitance.


 No.1003273

>>1002960

The characteristics of the field might differ but the underlying mechanism is the exact same.

You're telling me that a inline 4 and a V8 can't be both called an engine because the V8 will more balanced and deliver more power.




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