/sw/ - Star Wars★

the stupidest thing i've seen is "rey is related to obi-wan because they're both british"

STOP THE FUCKING PRESS, IF YOU'RE BRITISH IN STAR WARS IT MEANS YOU'RE RELATED TO ANYONE ELSE WHO'S BRITISH! HOLY FUCKNUTS THIS COMPLETELY DEBUNKS EVOLUTION AS WE KNOW IT GUYS!

Nope, the new "lore" establish that he, or it, saw the rise of the Empire, so it's from the late Republic era at least.

I still go for the "Vader clone", just because the scars. Actually it's just a poor character and that's it. Not compeling at all, just as the new continuity. Even Wankatine being dragged to hell by flying gas cylinder jedi is more interesting.

My theory is that even the writers don't know who or what he is and that Snoke is just another product of Abrams' empty box of mysteries. The writers will come up with a backstory for him at the very last minute in 9's production and disappoint everybody, just you wait.

My best guess is they'll settle on Snoke being a badly malformed clone, either of Vader because they recovered bits of him like his helmet, or Luke because if someone found his lightsaber then they might have found his hand too.

>>225

Seems as likely as anything. (Though on the other hand Star Wars isn't really a mystery-driven show to the degree that Lost was.)

>>224

>flying gas cylinder jedi

…Was that in Empire's End?

>>225

Personally I'd say it's probably worse than that. Snoke is literally just some dude. There's no mystery there, he really is some random guy with no connection to anybody and his backstory will be filled in by some novelist a year or two later just to justify his existence, where it turns out he was another anti-skywalker jedi's kid.

>>227

>another anti-skywalker jedi's kid

Who was the first?

>>228

To be fair, there's a theory that Snoke is pretty much everyone. At least Mace is a major Force-using character who dipped into the dark side, has a grudge against the Skywalkers and was never confirmed dead.

>>229

>Who was the first?

There were a bunch of them. Darth Krayt is the most obvious one but between being kind of a douche as a jedi then a sith lord a lot of jedi obviously don't like Vader. Some of them had kids who became jedi or dark jedi.

>>238

darth krayt at least has a cool backstory instead of "i just sat around the universe for thousands of years watching shit go down lol" snoke

>>222

Does Britain exist in the star wars universe?

>>228

Pottery skull. But yeah, too old.

I find it far more interesting, the theory that claims Mace to think of himself as the chosen one.

>>249

>too old

…Mace is too old, or Snoke is? Is there a canon age for Snoke? Some kind of hard lifespan limit in the new canon even accounting for Dark Side abilities that stop people from dying?

>>221 (OP)

The theories these normalfags keep cooking up is disgusting and they would imply Disney or anyone involved has given any deep thought as to what this faggot role is in their new shitty galaxy.

>>240

Its an imperial accent you pleb. Been around since the Great Hyperspace War.

>>258

>Legends canon

>>279

I guess we should rely on Disney canon and realize that memes and shit boards games are a thing in the SW universe, that Han Solo is secretly an incompetent beta married to some random "totally tubular" black chick and that Tie Fighters go "wibbly wobbly" through space. Or that Vader is really fond of some brown little mary sue to the point of thinking of her like a daughter and using her as a replacement for Thrawn.

>>281 >>286 >>288

It's literally a thread about a Disney-only character. And I'm pretty sure there were memes and shit board games in Legends canon too.

>>286

>>298

I keep forgetting you can't line up post links.

>>298

>memes in the EU

Read this Disney shit then get back to me you Disney pleb and know the true meaning of what this new trilogy is founded on.

https://www.amazon.com/Aftermath-Star-Journey-Force-Awakens-ebook/dp/B00TCI489U

>>300

make me fgt

>>304

Just click the contents image you Disney coward.

>>316

…The table of contents is just a list of numbered chapters, plus some "Interludes" at various locations. What am I missing? Is it that hard to just take a screenshot?

Mace Windu was an affirmative action hire from pressure of the progressive Republic to include all raises.

Palpatine's influence over the republic had been strong for a long time.

His plan was to split up the jedi-council, divide them worlds apart so that only the hot-headed nigger was left and that's when he let the air out of the bag to dumb Anakin about him being a sith. He knew Anakin had feelings for him and that Mace Dindu would try to kill him.

>>229

>has a grudge against the Skywalkers

wat .-.

>and was never confirmed dead

>was never confirmed dead

>never confirmed dead

BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>223

So one "certain group of people" infiltrates all levels of government, sets up a puppet ruler, and creates a "rebellion" around which malcontents can gather, but which is really just a different face for the same "group of people".

Lucas confirmed for /pol/

>>342

>wat .-.

Did you miss Anakin betraying him and cutting off his hand?

>BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Show me his body.

I think it's a former time-bomb trapped inside Paris Hilton's vagina.

>>221 (OP)

Random crazy theory: Snoke is a retarded name

Snoke is Sly Moore after undergoing a FtM sex change operation.

Snoke is the manifestation of Palpatine's soul afte his death in ROTJ.

>TFW Disney isn't quite what it once was, compared to both the Walt years, Roy Disney years, and the early 1980s.

>>779

regardless of who it was sold to, lucasfilm would still most likely go full retard and do the canon wipe.

the only thing is with fox taking over, we would at least still get the fanfare before the movies.

>you will never see a star wars movie or tv installment that has a similar vibe to joss whedon's works

fucking fine by me, the hack has done all he could to rip off star wars with firefly.

>>223

I fucking laughed so god damn hard thinking about this as if it was real.

>>342

Darth Maul got cut in half and thrown down an infinitely deep energy pit or something and both Lucas AND Disney brought him back.

Honestly if it wasn't for SHEEEV blowing up when he hit the reactor core in Jedi there would be no reason for Ian not to make a return appearance, save for any health or desire issues of course. Not like they can't CGI him in anyway if Rouge One is any indication.

>>924

Just because its on the table doesn't mean that it will get green-lighted in the end. Lucas has had his share of projects that he had in mind that never or barely got into movie production. Who knows? maybe they will change their minds and scrap that idea, instead doing either a Sana solo or some sort of TV special involving Rey's past instead. Don't believe me on that? Look it up and you'll fine numerous films and TV shows that either got cancelled or canned before completion.

Examples:

>Uncle Toms Fairy Tales

>Who Killed Bambi

>Frenzy by Alfred Hitchcock

>An alternate movie adaptation of Dune

>Samurai Jack movie

The force is the collective farts of a shark

>>957

>Rogue One had a guy get shot and fall down a pit and come back in the same movie.

to be fair, he was clipped in the shoulder, like most of the other people in that movie. also, those bars he fell into broke the velocity of his fall, but he should have been more beat up.

Jar Jar Binks is actually the Sith Lord that orchestrated all the events of the first three films.

>>1026

Jar Jar as a Force user is something I can believe, though I'm not convinced he was a sith lord. Maybe a useful, Force-sensitive idiot.

Leia would have been a major plot point in SW IX had Carrie Fisher not died

SW mostly takes place in the Andromeda galaxy.

>>957

>>958

His death would have been legit great if he died then. I despise bullshit asspulls like the one they pulled with him coming back. How the fuck did he get through the closing door thing?

He should have died right there. If you actually liked the character, it would have been effective.

Snoke is a puppet in Ep8 thank god.

Snoke is actually a Big Guy, the hologram makes him look smaller.

>>1372

My theory: 2008 Clone Wars would have had at least 1 more season had Lucas decided not to sell the IP of Star Wars right then and there.

>>1567

at least one more season for sure, they didn't have season 6 finished and it seems like it was opening even more subplots, with ahsoka being a rogue jedi, yoda on korriban, plus how they would tie it up with the invasion of coruscant and the kidnapping of the chancellor. i think lucas figured they would let the show finish up instead of just LOL FUCK YOUR ORIGINAL SHIT BITCH, WE RIDING THE NOSTALGIA COAT-TAILS. the only positive thing i've seen from rebels is that they took the opportunity to end some threads from clone wars.

>>1567

The unfinished episodes started a lot of cool shit. There was an utapau arc that showed where the giant kaiburr crystal they use in the Death Star came from and there were plans for an invasion of mandalore that would end the series with Ahsoka and Rex barely surviving order 66 and riding off into the sunset. And we'll never see it because of disney. No canon invasion of Coruscant, no resolutions to dozens of plot threads. Nothing.

>>1592

i sat through this entire video and two things caught my attention

- outbound flight

- prophets of the dark side

now, they weren't exactly mentioned in that regard, but rather the contents of those EU bits were clearly rehashed in cuck wendig's new book.

>>221 (OP)

>>thinking Disney cares about metaphysics

If you have a copy of the movie you can clearly see its a hologram when the base is falling apart, I don't have such a copy.

>>1592

>>Snoke finding the Dark Side, bhahahaha. How weak if he's supposed to be some kind of Sith Lord. I feel bad for the dude who made that video seems he knows somethings about the old lore but has to make a living on talking about the shitty new shit.

>>1594

>If you have a copy of the movie

not opt, but nigga i wouldn't even want a digital copy except to try and see if i can like it after watching it multiple times, hasn't happened yet and instead has continued to reinforce my extreme dislike of it and i wouldn't even take the time to find what you're talking about

Disney's version of the Yuhzan Vong will be the villains in Ep 10, 11 and 12. Calling it.

>>1604

You think the cuckold fetishists at Disney would be interested in giving the fans a three-part Yuuzhan Vong epic?

>>1616

After the fallout of TLJ, I wouldn't be surprised if they become desperate.

>>4258

I'll laugh like a loon if it turns out that only his body was killed, and we have to deal with his soul possessing Kylo so that we have a villain we can pretend to take seriously.

>>225

>2016

You were right.

>>4272

might be their idea is to keep making movies that are more like soft reboots than sequels

>>4298

>Snoke is just a cheap writing trick from JJ's Mystery Box. Just like the Smoke Monster, the Polar Bear or the Red Matter, it's not meant to be explained because it's nothing.

I kinda think JJ's reliance on his Mystery Box in general is why TLJ is so all over the place.

They had to quash who Rey's parents were, because JJ didn't actually have anything planned for them, same with Snoke and probably the "Knights of Ren" as well; Vague plot hooks that certainly had potential, but got waffled on because no one knew how to proceed with them.

>>4306

But that just makes me question it: Why wasn't it somebody's job to make some sense of it? They have the whole Legends canon in what's basically a toy box that they're at liberty to raid at any time and re-import things that would be helpful back into the universe.

Is Pablo Hidalgo paid to just tweet about his dogs?

>>4310

>But that just makes me question it: Why wasn't it somebody's job to make some sense of it?

I'm going to chalk it up to just plain managerial incompetence, Disney exec were being hands off of the main stories creative drive in the hopes of not stifling any potential magic, but without a central figure like Lucas with a vision focusing that drive everything petered out in every direction.

I am hoping this can be salvaged, but I doubt Abrams is the one that can pull it off..

>>4312

The popular talking point about JJ Abrams is that his Star Trek reboot went against the traditional appeal of that IP because he was really a Star Wars fan at heart. Trouble is that he's less of the wookiepedia-sperging fan with an opinion on Karin Travis and more of the "The OT was awesome and I played KOTOR on X-Box," fan.

>>4318

>That R2-D2 cameo still induces a savage rage within me.

That's an ILM thing. It's like when the CG company Zoic added the Firefly in a scene of the BSG miniseries, it was a nod to their previous works.

>>4306

>I kinda think JJ's reliance on his Mystery Box in general is why TLJ is so all over the place.

It ruins the storytelling. It's there because the story needed something at a precise moment but instead of building something interesting, the item from the Mystery Box is just a distraction.

Look at every Bad Robot production and you will find an item from the Mystery Box. Everytime they use it, it brings up 2 choices for the writer: either he ignores it and the viewers will notice and start creating theories (Smoke Monster, Polar Bear, Red Matter) that's good from a marketing standpoint but bad for the story, or the writer will try to give an explanation later on at the risk of downplaying the mystery (like the Observers from Fringe, once they started to add more lore to the Observers they lost the "magic" and became the main focus of the show).

>>4315

Some old EU writers have written new books, but they wouldn't need to pay anybody to use virtually all of their old material. I'm pretty sure all of those trademarks and copyrights became Disney's when they phagocytosed Lucasfilm.

>>4315

>hence why we have garbage like Ben Solo.

and Cuck Wendig

>>4313

>The OT was awesome

This is exactly why I don't think he can salvage it, TFA was him copying ANH, but TLJ changing this up too much for the third to be a Return rehash.

>>4322

>It ruins the storytelling. It's there because the story needed something at a precise moment but instead of building something interesting, the item from the Mystery Box is just a distraction.

Well pulling out a device every now and again isn't bad, Lucas himself probably didn't put much thinking into Hyperdrives in the beginning, but purposefully leaving gaps for the sake of "MYSTERY!" doesn't work if you don't have things ready to go to plug in there.

It's just lazy writing.

>>4326

I think they might be afraid of any EU writers pulling a Ken Penders on them. Which is stupid.

>>4800

>>1592

The very idea of some unknown thing reaching throughout the Galaxy to enact its plan tickles my fancy. I would've settled for it being Vitiate back again. That it's all dust and nothing removes any lingering interest I had for this trilogy.

>>4806

As if any greedy hack at Disney even knows about Vitiate.

>>4819

bad guy black guy lol, that doesn't fit the political usefulness of making Star Wars products

You'll see Star Wars fastly let go if it cannot be used for purposes beyond just telling a story.

>>221 (OP)

>stupid theories thread

Fitting name.

>>4847

mass petition to US government to break up the Disney monopoly.

>>222

Actually, it makes sense that the british are related to other british. In a way, it's like that in our world too.

>>240

Yes, but it's a white country.

>>222

Rey would have to be in her mid-30's at-least if that were the case. It's infeasible. Unless Old Ben could fuck as a force ghost, I mean, if Yoda could summon lightning and bonk Luke on the forhead with his cane, why not?

>>4861

If only it were so easy.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Attendants

The Attendants were a retinue of alien navigators led by the Supreme Leader Snoke. It was composed of mute alien navigators who originated from the Unknown Regions. Following the fall of the Galactic Empire at Jakku, what was left of the Empire fled to the Unknown Regions in order to escape from the New Republic and plan their revenge. Although most of the surviving Imperial officers would have likely died while crossing the uncharted Regions, the ancient hyperspace trails blazed by the Attendants helped them to stay there, where they took the shape of what eventually became the First Order.[1] They were present aboard Snoke's flagship the Supremacy at the time of the attack on the Resistance fleet in 34 ABY, where they designed and operated the oculus viewing scope in Snoke's throne room.[2]

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Snoke#Early_life

Snoke was a humanoid alien who was leader of the Attendants, a retinue composed of mute alien navigators who originated from the Unknown Regions. At some unspecified point in his life, Snoke acquired a black obsidian stone from the catacombs and mines beneath the castle of the Sith Lord Darth Vader on the planet Mustafar. He affixed this stone to a golden ring he wore, which was engraved with glyphs used by the Four Sages of Dwartii,[6] controversial figures of philosophy that dated back to the early days of the Galactic Republic.[8]

Eventually, Snoke witnessed the rise and eventual fall of the Galactic Empire.[1] What was left of the Galactic Empire fled to the Unknown Regions and took the shape of what eventually became the First Order. Although most of the Imperial officers would have likely perished while crossing this uncharted realm, the ancient hyperspace trails blazed by Snoke's retinue helped them to stay there and organize themselves. Although he was a powerful practitioner of the dark side of the Force, Snoke was not affiliated with the Sith,[6] which became extinct as a result of the deaths of Darth Sidious and Vader at the Death Star II thanks to the efforts of the Jedi Knight Luke Skywalker.[9] As such, Snoke, a master of the Force, was a seeker of arcane lore.[10]

I…didn't think this could get more boring. Or bland.

>>5989

>attendants

what fucking kind of name for a species of aliens is this?

>>6021

what i hate is that this is something that should have been in the movies, not saving it for outside. this was the problem with the fart rips as well, too much shit got put into a companion book that should have been on screen and wouldn't have taken more than a minute of time.

>>6024

>what fucking kind of name for a species of aliens is this?

One that belongs in a Ridley Scott movie.

>>5989

And why he would have any interest in restore the Empire? That is the fulcrum of any character who would lead the nu-verse remnant.

Thraw at least had an explanation with his dealings with the Empire, makes sense of him coming from the Unknow Regions.

>>4310

Is Pablo Hidalgo one of the shittier members of the Story team for Star Wars?

>>6057

Snoke isn't an alien, he's an old white man.

>>6078

They're all shit. But yes, of course the spic is trash.

>>6057

The way you describe that interview reminds me of that interview Ben Kingsley gave for Iron Man 3.

>>6057

>We don't know because THEY don't know.

not surprising, at least george had his shit planned out decades before actually getting to writing it and simply polished it up.

>>6085

oh god, fuck that movie so hard. what a waste of ben kingsley and an even bigger waste of iron man's arch nemesis.

>>6078

The story group consists of him and Leland Che rendered impotent by two female diversity hires and Cuckquean Kennedy always casting any tie-breaking votes in the latter's favor. He used to try to revive, reconstruct, or sponsor Old Republic era EU lore but now seems completely demoralized and likes to tweet about his food and dogs. He was never really /myguy/ because he scoffed at morally grey Star Wars stories and didn't get why the Empire needed to be rationalized, but he did give a fuck about my favorite era at least.

I'm not even sure what the Story Group does in a given day. I don't even think the Star Wars YouTube channel has had anything on it. From where I can see, they exist to make up something to placate Twitter accounts with enough followers for a question to be seen by an arbitrary amount of bystanders and to give a cursory overlook to anything made under the Star Wars brand checking it for blatant inconsistencies (or just contradiction of (((somebody's))) narrative).

>>6097

i thought pablo was one of the story group members that was vehemently against any old republic material. also iirc dave filoni is in the group as well.

It's kind of baffling, really, Snoke omis pretty much exactly a Sith Lord from the shitty Episode 7 fanfiction I drew when I was fucking 12.

It was literally just some guy with no name or backstory that was only in there because the story needed an antagonist.

>>6119

*Snoke is

>>6097

>he scoffed at morally grey Star Wars stories and didn't get why the Empire needed to be rationalized

Well that's awfully close minded of him. Still yeah, he's basically just a bitch kept around to trick blindly trustful EU fans into believing that the EU will be canon again, hence why so many of them shill for Rogue One and Rebels.

>>6097

This information is slightly dated. The group has swollen like a tumor to 8 people… 6 of who are women.

Hidalgo and Che are the only males left, and both seem to have quit giving a fuck since they know they have no real influence on their own.

>>6596

>>6596

So despite Star Wars having an overwhelmingly male audience, it has a female story team. I imagine joyless angry feminists who all think they are geeks.

The creative team for star wars should be six or seven eight year old boys and one guy who wrote for an 80s cartoon. The boys can all react to ideas by the writers and the 80s cartoon guy can make sure it’s coherent.

>>5989

>navigators

So they managed to rip off Dune and fuck it up?

>>6604

>and one guy who wrote for an 80s cartoon.

I nominate Genndy or Paul Dini.

>>6630

>They aren't a roundtable of well-informed people with primary Star Wars sources fact checking the media and working together to produce a mostly coherent vision.

this is hilarious to me, because for shits and gigs i went to lucasfilm's website, checked on their hiring applications, and one of the must-have qualities was a vast knowledge of the universe, meaning both films and EU.

Even this sort of silliness would have been preferable to what we got.

>>6630

>Dark Empire

You tell me. I had a blast with it when I was nine and ten.

>>5989

Seriously? That's his origins? That is some of the most underwhelming stuff I've ever heard. Even the Vong would've been better than this.

>>4800

>That choreography

Good God what the shit is this.

>>5989

>Snoke is just some alien

>his shit about "seeing the rise and fall of the empire" was literal, the dude watched it with a telescope or some shit

>he made a ring out of a rock he found for no particular reason

>he became the leader of the First Order for no particular reason

>he corrupted Ben Solo for no particular reason

>he wanted to conquer the Republic for no particular reason

>after engaging in a war he doesn't care about, he is killed by his student, the corrupted Ben Solo, because he wants to stick his dick in Rey

I don't understand. I can't understand. What was the point of any of this?

>>7014

<That little kick she does right before it cuts to space

>>7024

Honestly, it makes me wonder if they have any idea of what direction to take. At least with the OT and PT you have a general direction to follow. With this new trilogy I don't know.

>>7041

This saddens me greatly. Not really surprised anymore.

>>7032

>>7041

>>7044

the only time they had any ideas of what to do post-7 before writing was when george was still involved, since he had treatments written for each episode that they just tossed out the window.

ironically enough, people are trying to defend the last jedi's shit with "oh this is what was in line with george's idea" bull fucking shit to the brink.

>>7057

I heard that George had plans for 4 trilogies originally. Makes me wonder what it would've been like.

>>7057

Its also funny to note that Mark and the rest only signed on because they thought George would be involved.

Honestly, I think the new trilogy would've gone better if they took some ideas from the old EU and did something new with it. Episode 7 could start out with the Galaxy in a Cold War with the New Republic and the Imperial Remnant in an armistice agreement. Secretly, the Imperial Remnant is building up forces and the New Republic sends someone to investigate it and find out that it's true. Before they can get ready the New Republic gets fucked by the Imperial Remnant lead by Thrawn who captures the Republic heroes revealing he's doing this to build up a defense against the Vong. So Episodes 8 & 9 could be them dealing with the Vong while the Republic and Thrawn are allies that don't like each other and at the end one will have to take over or something. I don't know if it's great but it's better than what we got.

>>7276

I don't think why anyone thought that Disney would do a Thrawn trilogy adaption. SW movies need to be original content, doing a simple adaption of an existing trilogy would never fly.

>>7278

*don't know

>>7278

Book adaptations are all the rage now and idiots would've watch VII no matter what it was about.

>>7278

Doesn't have to be a book adaptation. Some were even expecting it to just feature Thrawn in some form or have some references to stuff like the Emperor's clones.

>>7272

>I think the new trilogy would've gone better if they took some ideas from the old EU and did something new with it.

You mean like they just did?

>>7276

This would have been a thousand times more watchable than Diversity Wars.

Is that last poster a shooped image of Cumberbatch?

>>7278

>SW movies need to be original content, doing a simple adaption of an existing trilogy would never fly.

But that's exactly what they did anon, they just used the OT instead of Thrawn.

To be honest, they could have still "killed" the EU while just adapting movies based heavily on it and have achieved much better results. Instead of wiping the slate clean and dreaming up their own alternate timeline, they could have declared that the EU was non-canon until otherwise restored and then started making a Thrawn Trilogy of sequel movies. They could have then adapted contemporary stories into comic and novel tie-ins.

It would have kept what was beloved about the EU while letting Lucasfilm step over and disregard the parts that were unsalvagable thanks to G-canon retcons or too divisive to be worth making into more content. It would have also given long-time fans stuff to hope and look forward to instead of the jilted bitterness.

>>7312

>started making a Thrawn Trilogy of sequel movies.

With the actors being so much older, could the Thrawn Trilogy be made without the actors being younger?

I haven't actually read any of the EU books yet, pls no bully

>>7436

>no bully

Nah, no worries. They could pull what they did with Indiana Jones and Tron, but that can border on uncanny valley as seen with Leia. What they should've done was just retcon everything about the vong and remake their story into something less awful and it could easily work with older versions of the main characters.

>>7438

>retcon everything about the vong and remake their story into something less awful

What exactly are the Vong and why is their story awful?

>>7441

A rather contested but memorable race of extra-galactic religious biotech-using space mongols who tear through the Galaxy. Having not read the books yet, I cannot say much more, but they seem to be worth a look at least.

>>7441

Vong were basically Hellraiser in alien form. They were extra galactic aliens that came from another galaxy, but everything about them felt off-putting and other worldly and completely alien to SW lore. They were more like Star Trek villains in every sense of the word and basically existed just to fuck with the galaxy, the characters, the setting and they even killed Chewbacca, along with other characters and countless planets. No other story in SW outside of Disney ever did as much damage as the Vong did. Disney practically reminds me of the Vong to a degree. They could still work though if handled better and not be made so damn OP. The fuckers were even immune to the force in every way which is a pretty stupid thing in itself and their bio-weapons outclassed almost everything in the galaxy. But like I said, if handled better, they could work very well and even had great designs and aesthetics, and their background as being victims of droids made their hatred of tech very interesting and understandable (their home galaxy was ruled by two factions of droids who constantly fought each other and they would either enslave the vong or just treated them as fodder for their droid war. One of the droids of their galaxy was the Great Heep from the Droids cartoon).

>>7308

yes it is.

>>7460

>Chewbacca

I do know that he died well, saving Anakin Solo from a cataclysm.

>Vong

Well, here's some information about the situation.

> though the Yuuzhan Vong's alien technology initially gives them an advantage over the New Republic, over time the New Republic figures out ways to overcome that advantage and level the playing field, and eventually start turning the tide.

>They also figure out how to subvert the network of Yuuzhan Vong spies that have infiltrated the government and the military. It's Lando, of all people, who came up with the technology initially: he built a line of Yuuzhan Vong Hunter droids that could detect hidden Vong spies and had enough firepower to take them down.

Also, that the NR Senate hamstrung their military early on.

>>7464

>saving Anakin Solo from a cataclysm

Though Anakin ended up dying as well. According to the rumor mill, the authors didn't intend that, but the order came from on high in LucasArts, because people were confusing him with his namesake.

>>7280

>idiots would've watch VII no matter what it was about

while this is true, had 7 not had massive amounts of pandering, race-baiting and virtue-signalling, the normalfags would have probably brushed it off while we could have a new canon of autism to eat up.

>>7595

>had 7 not had massive amounts of pandering, race-baiting and virtue-signalling

Do normies actually think like this? Bluehaired tumblrtards are one thing, but none of my normie friends/family members are the type to go, "Yeah, I was going to see the new SW, but I heard the nigger ratio was only 3:1 so I changed my mind now." In the case of the average moviegoer, shit taste doesn't mean that they hate the good shit and love the bad shit, it just means their quality bars are much lower.

>>7613

Just judging based on my family and cousins it's more like they might like the film if its fun. Though my parents coworkers said they found Episode 8 confusing.

>>7613

My cousins only go to see films with gay people in it now to show their support and brag about it with their lady-friends. Half the time they seem to exist on a lower level of consciousness since they can't even recall what it was they watched in theaters. Sage for off-topic.

>>7460

>>7441

The story I heard was that R.A. Salvatore, a veteran of high fantasy and D&D novels, sketched out what would become the Vong for a book or a campaign setting that was ultimately rejected by his publisher. When he was hired on to write a Star Wars novel, he dusted off his Original Race Do Not Steal and modified it to plausibly work in a space opera. That may have something to do with why many fans felt they were very out of place and awkward.

>>7649

Honestly, I don't think those are normies. Normies are characterized by not caring about these kinds of things.

>>7468

You know, I've had a thought: otherwise intelligent and original EU-loving people that I know also really like the new movies, and will try to defend them the best they can (if not always successfully, and not for everything). The thing that connects two of them is having grown up with and read the NJO series, and defending that in turn. Perhaps the destruction wrought by the Vong inured them to what's going on now to the point where they accept it.

>>7276

That Struzan-style Episode VIII poster is amazing.

>>7468

>Though Anakin ended up dying as well

hurr durr why save anyone if they're just going die in the end hurr hurr hurr :'^) :'^)

>but the order came from on high in LucasArts, because people were confusing him with his namesake.

If that really was the reason given then doesn't make any since, since both anakin's are dead anyway in there own books/movies

Talking of random and crazy…

>>7662

>very out of place and awkward

After the “ex-Imperial superweapon of the week” era, they were a fucking breath of fresh air.

>>12428

Agreed. I actually really like the concept of a Mongol-style extragalactic invading force. I just don't think the specific implementation of that idea in the form of the Vong worked out very well.

>>12444

As did I. I like the idea of what the vong meant and some of their backstory, but their execution, writing and effect on the setting left a lot to be desired.

>>224

>I still go for the "Vader clone", just because the scars.

Why would a clone have scars?

>>12464

You burned it to make it a closer copy of the original.

>>12465

But why would they do that? That would only make sense if you were making a double to fool people. Obviously that wasn't being done as he was called Snoke, he wasn't being called Darth Vader or Anakin Skywalker and nobody was pretending that he was Vader/Anakin.

>>12466

>But why would they do that? That would only make sense if you were making a double to fool people.

Maybe that was the initial plan, but then some other Moff came along and cancelled the project and exiled him to a brutal mining world. Perhaps he rallied his Reman brothers and took control of the planet.

>>12467

That still makes no sense. Luke would just say "That's not Darth Vader, he's dead. That's obviously just a clone." Maybe even Anakin's Force ghost could appear to prove it. Lol!

>>12472

That's because the Emperor mentioned him in EPIII, otherwise they wouldn't know dick about Plagueis like the plebs they are. Hence why he looks like a malformed human.

>>12474

>That's because the Emperor mentioned him in EPIII

Yeah, I know that. My standards are just so low that it surprises me they knew enough to reference a single line in RotS, especially considering Johnson, Kennedy, and the other hacks have been trying as hard as they can to lazily cash in on OT nostalgia and doing everything possible to ignore the PT completely.