/strek/ - Star Trek ★

wait, why is there no episode tomorrow?

This show looks terrible.

>>9994

Better than contrast out the ass, shakeycam and post-production lensflare.

>>10000 (CHECKED)

>>10027

>>10027

>Meanwhile dozens of shitcovery threads are spammed while discussion of good shit gets ignored

Hello reddit!

>>10027

>Every board is /v/, the post

I am not sure you've actually browsed other boards before have you anon?

>>10028

>>10030

>taking accurate usage of bump limits for generals as a meme exclusive to/ having originated in/ being related to /v/ and/or reddit

spotted the cancer

>>10055

More so than Star Trek, this show reminds me of the sillier episodes of Stargate SG-i and Atlantis.

>>10042

>deliberately shitting up a thread about a decent show for no valid reason

Spotted the CIScovery shill.

>>10055

Question is how preachy should it get?

>>10101

Not very. That was MASH's biggest problem, especially after Alda started directing. IIRC they mentioned something to that affect on Family Guy once. MacFarlane should be aware of it and able to avoid it. Then again, FG got surprisingly preachy sometimes, too.

wew

>>10120

He has a point though. A race of faggots forces a sex change on a baby. If you work too much, your wife will get the blues and you'll be to blame. No agenda here.

>>10110

That first clip is from the only full episode of SG-1 I've ever seen. A friend in college made me watch it. It was pretty great. I've always wanted to sit down and watch the series. The other little clips and parts I've seen were more typical, and I still liked it. I just never seem to get around to it.

>>10110

The real question is

Should there be Stargate and Farscape discussion on this board as well, along with Babylon 5?

>>10130

Then rename the board sci-fi general? Because you can't talk about sci-fi on /tv/ without

>muh space commies

>muh bbc

>>10132

Nah. All of the aforementioned shows are of a specific type: Exploratory Space Opera. This differs from Star Wars' Political Action Space Opera.

>>10136

Well, it cannot be renamed >>>/eso/ because that is already taken.

>>10130

Yeah sure fuck it

>>10138

What about Space Exploration? >>>/se/ is free afaik.

Also aren't DS9 and B5 more politics and action in space than about exploration?

Sci Fi general I also something I can get behind if it wasn't because >>>/sfg/ and >>>/sf/ are taken. Maybe >>>/scifig/ or >>>/scifi/ instead?

As for stargate? Its shit. Utterly mediocre and dumb to a baffling degree. It has no more business on this board than Dr Who or rick and morty.

>>10138

Well, technically it's on the list of boards that can be claimed, since it was last used in 2015 (and was barely used then). If anyone wants to snag it, they can.

>>10141

>shit

>comparable to R&M

>comparable to NuWho

What the fuck are you smoking?

>>10160

>>10145

Stargate is a cheaply made and shitty looking series, just like Dr Who, its full of idiotic premisses, terrible characters and wasted potential, just like rick and morty and shares the terrible writing of both that seems to assume everyone involved are retarded in order to move the plot forward.

>>10176

Care to provide specific examples then?

This show will never beat SG-1

>>10213

Not having STD already beats STD, so it's in the clear already.

I'm a few episodes in now and man, this show has surprised me. I have yet to see STD to compare it (reactions here making me rather skeptical of its quality), but this feels like some good, classic Trek, just Trek that takes itself a little less seriously (but only a little) and throws in some jokes along the way. And it's also not terribly cringeworthy jokes either, I've had a good few snickers along the way.

About a Girl surprised me more than once, particularly considering how well they handled the themes of the episode, as well as the ending. Probably my favorite episode thus far, but I've still got a couple more to catch up on.

I'm thoroughly convinced that reviewers that gave this a pass were just doing it because Seth was attached, and I wouldn't be surprised if they were paid off by CBS. I mean, it sure would explain the complete opposite critic/viewer reactions to STD and Orville. All I can say at this point is that Fox would be stupid not to renew assuming CBS doesn't sue them for making a better Trek than them.

>>10303

It certainly has the most potential for improvement. Contrary to what a lot of normies and redditors think, STD pretty much is what it is going to be. Due to it's serialized nature, it's not going to lend itself to iteration the way a traditional Trek episodic series (like The Orville) does. STD will likely never grow the beard.

As much as I despise modern, quippy dialogue in movies and TV, The Orville actually does it well… and we expect it since its nominally a comedy, so it works. What I'd be on the look out for are the non-sequitors and quick jump-cut oh-so-randumb shit Family Guy is known for leaning on (typically in involving a pop culture reference). That shit has to stay out of STD. So, I guess it's a situation-comedy where the situation is a utopian future sci-fi starship. We don't want a farce like Airplane or Naked Gun.

>>10304

To be fair, American Dad was basically "Family Guy but the dad works at the CIA" early on, but after about the first season they laid off the cutaways and drew comedy from the premise. There's still pop culture stuff thrown in, but it's generally more of an off-handed comment and not a full-on bit.

Seth clearly loves Star Trek (see the episode of Family Guy where Stewie kidnaps the TNG cast), and he's already described this as a passion project of his. I think he has every intention of taking it as seriously as he needs to. Hell, in the first few episodes the show's already dealt with some interesting themes, and done so well. And as you said, there's room to improve.

That said, I wouldn't mind a Trek farce at some point, but that would work best as a movie and not a series.

>>10319

Christ, how did I blank on GalaxyQuest. I fucking love that movie.

>>9994

It's low budget CGI with a good story.

I'd rather that than obscenely high budget CGI that doesn't have a storyline at all.

>>10319

The thing I remember most from that movie is the stupid computer only listening to the woman.

>>10304

STD's too serious. It's all preachiness with minimal imagination ‒ and even the imagination is shoehorned red matter type stuff. Like oh here's a giant warthog that eats pixie dust and takes you where you need to go ‒ it doesn't strike me as a valid soft science fiction premise except in the broadest sense. Whereas Orville's episode about a biodome habitat cruiser where the inhabitants forgot why they were there, was an intriguing premise that could've passed easily in any actual Trek episode.

>>10359

>Whereas Orville's episode about a biodome habitat cruiser where the inhabitants forgot why they were there, was an intriguing premise that could've passed easily in any actual Trek episode.

It did.

>>10128

You've got around six straight days worth of episodes to catch up on.

>>10304

Ironic that it's impossible for a character to grow a beard.

Reminder next episode tomorrow.

>>10431

I can't wait.

Is there a summary up for it or are we in the dark?

>>10438

In the next all-new episode of THE ORVILLE, "Majority Rule," airing Thursday, Oct. 26 (9:00-10:00 PM ET) on FOX, two Union anthropologists go missing on a planet similar to 21st century Earth, so Ed (MacFarlane) sends a team led by Kelly (Adrianne Palicki) to find them. However, the mission quickly goes awry when they realize the society's government is completely based on a public voting system to determine punishment.

Also good viewership ratings for Orville, Fox might greenlight a second season. Where STD is only getting renewed because CBS wants something for it's streaming service, Fox might renew Orville simply because people are watching it.

https://www.broadwayworld.com/bwwtv/article/THE-ORVILLE-Premiere-Is-FOXs-Most-Watched-Highest-Rated-Series-Launch-Since-2015-20171024

>>10448

That's even better news. I'm glad it's doing so well.

>>10448

>21st century Earth episode

Wew

All caught up now (aside from tonight's episode). I rather liked Krill and the themes it explored, and it looks like we know how they'll handle time travel if it comes up again. I'm also glad that they're fine with not every episode having a conventionally happy ending, though they also aren't being dour and dark all the time either. It's striking a good balance, as I think Trek should.

Keeping my fingers crossed that it continues getting good enough ratings to get renewed. It would be a delicious bit of irony if CBS renewed STD because they felt that they had to, but Fox renewed The Orville because they wanted to.

A hearty LOL at the black guy being the one getting arrested for acting the fool in public, it truly is 21st century earth.

>>10499

>supporting the CURRENT YEAR narrative

>Trial by Media on the planet Facebook

>This is portrayed as abhorrent.

Surprisingly not-pozzed.

<The public uproars in question are over disrespect for Nation, Heritage, and Decency, respectively.

<This is portrayed as abhorrent.

Surprisingly pozzed.

>>10501

Who said I was doing that? I was laughing at it being the black guy who fucks around and gets arrested, the CURRENT YEAR play would be to have the white pilot be the fuck up.

>>10502

Their outrage isn't about the heritage, it's "I must follow the narrative or get swept away with him in kind"

>>10502

I liked the morale, its sure as fuck not that hard to think of real life experiences where others could have benefited from learning this, not to say modern society in general.

Popularity vote =/= justice is a classic Trek morale. The show just keeps on being better at trek than the abortion that is ciscovery.

>>10540

Ever watched Black Mirror? Don't. It's fucking overhyped shit that prerends to be insightful social commentary when it's really just "DAE HATE REALITY TV?????" and "OMG SOCIAL MEDIA IS EVIL"

Anyways, they had an episode all about a society where social media ratings determined your status in society. To the point that even the police could punish people by adjusting their rating and making it so bad ratings are doubled. The whole fucking thing was retarded and the final payoff was the main character goes to prison and gets to say whatever she wants because no one can rate her anymore.

CANCER PLANET: REDDITSTAN

How's reddit reaction?

>>10543

They are waiting to be told how to react.

This last episode has caused widespread critic butthurt.

>>10546

I've never been so jealous of an internet review before.

how much more thoroughly can someone rape sjws in so few words?

>>10560

>>10546

I can already hear the normies who use these sites scoffing.

>>10549

Got any good quotes?

At the end of the last episode when they were thinking up ways to improve the black guy's ratings, I really thought they were going to tell the public he was gay, and that would gain their sympathy. That would have been the purest sign of un-pozzedness, shame they didn't do it.

>>10568

>That would have been the purest sign of un-pozzedness, shame they didn't do it.

Well, I thought the part about the girl turning off the TV at the end was the sweetest kick to the balls because of how all the talkshows, and the publicity, and everything else being nothing but noise in the long run.

>>10569

>slut turns off the tv at the end.

this is pretty ballsy, actually. Sure, it can be construed as rejecting social media or reality tv or gossip media, but offering as a closing message the image of someone turning-off their TV fairly media-subversive. This is the same industry that commonly keeps prop TVs out of domestic scenes (unless they were plot relevant) in order to maintain a certain illusion.

>>10462

classic trek for better or for worse

>>10569

>the sweetest kick to the balls

What about when Issac is hacking the main feed?

>What if someone tries to corroborate these claims?

<Oh, no, they won't.

>>10569

>>10570

Shades of Vengeance on Varos, perhaps.

>>10568

I thought they were going to tell everyone he was retarded. Felt like they were building up to that with him not knowing basic facts or social norms.

>>10568

I thought he was going to totally turn public opinion around and become a comedic sensation, further contaminating the culture.

If the rule is you're arrested at 1M downvotes, I wonder what would happen to somebody like the Lieutenant whose proceedings are terminated because he only got down to 9M instead of 10M. Do they have to remember where you exited proceedings and calculate 1M additional downvotes from that point? I wish they put more autism into this.

>>10540

I guess it's too conspicuous once you're at 500k downvotes. Maybe if she moved to a different province where nobody knows her. Since the downvotes and upvotes appear to toll separately rather than giving a net value I guess your downvotes never get wiped; anybody who knows her would instantly know something's awry.

>>10581

Yeah I thought when they went in to "rescue" him they'd find he became the emperor or something due to all the upvotes received for charisma or something.

>>10381

>season 2 begins

>cmdr kelly grayson has a full, riker-esque beard

>nobody comments on this until two seasons later

>>10617

Yeah, it seems like it'd be the ratio of upvotes to downvotes that would be important, not the raw numbers. Those would naturally grow with age, for example.

>>10617

>Kelly Grayson with a beard

I want to see this.

Next episode is a take on "Le crashed landed while flying a shuttle and stranded alone" story.

>>10618

Yeah, and what about super famous celebrities? They would get millions of votes a day, both up and down.

>>10788

Well that's easy anon they are rigged

>>10789

This is what I thought as well. In a world where every miniscule thing is determined by the logs of a computer system that nobody bothers to double check, whoever controls that system can elect whomever they want into power, pass any laws they want, move any amount of money wherever they wish, and kill anyone they find inconvenient.

>>10795

I actually like how they've been moving away from the comedy so far

>>10796

It's almost like they've accepted their destiny as the true inheritors of modern Star Trek.

>>10793

That would have been interesting if they found that out at the end.

>>10797

As they should.

>>10860

>Also, that actor was another Star Trek alumnus, having played five different characters across different shows and movies.

I kept thinking the guy had probably been in Trek before, lel. I swear to god if they don't pop up this season then the next one will definitely have the bigger Trek actors. Stewart is a Seth fanboy anyway (and vice versa), so I'm hoping for that.

>>10860

isn't that the main villain from cobra?

>>10862

>Inb4 whole Trek cast shows up.

>>10860

>sneak his own trek show past the executives

More like sneak it past the parody exception in copyright law, if he doesn't get sued after this episode, we'll know that a single glory hole joke is enough to fall under that exception.

>>10869

>>Inb4 whole Trek cast shows up.

>The Orville in a fight and in over their head, Union reinforcements arrive, open com channel, entire TNG crew in their usual positions on a bridge eerily similar in design.

This is Captain Juan Lucas Perez of the Union Starship 'Santa Maria', may we be of assistance?

>>10887

Bonus if the only accent he puts on is for his name.

>>10889

I'd heard it was doing pretty good, but I was still worried it might be a one season wonder. Good to see my worries were unfounded.

>>10889

It's good to be allowed the nice little things in life.

>>10892

I hope there will be more

>>10860

>He also played the alien bounty hunter in the X-Files.

Is there an x-files board, and is it any good? Don't send me to that /x/ shithole. That board is dead and deserves it. I used to post there until one day I asked a hypothetical question about golems and was banned and told to go to /fringe/. Fuck both those boards.

>>10892

Beep boop get of my chair motherfucker or I'll cut off your leg.

>>10902

>Scott Bakula shows up

>He has a Beagle in tow.

>>10903

>Is there an x-files board, and is it any good?

Make a thread at >>>/scifi/

>>10902

"Pro" critic just means "im being paid to criticize". One guess who pays.

Why anyone would trust them is incomprehensible.

>>10909

It's heartening to see some joy along with the salt.

https://www.avclub.com/c/tv-review/the-orville Oh, and if you want some real salt, get a load of these titles.

So when does STD get cancelled?

>>10947

Already getting a second season. Head to head season 2 battle commencing. May the best Trek win.

latest episode had me in stitches to the point that I wonder if it was intentional

>2 annoying fucking niglets

>dr dindu's keeds

>niglets are completely out of control little savages

>dr dindu is a single mom

>implies that it was the right choice while immediately after is shown to be a completely ineffective mother/disciplinarian

>mr roboto comments that the older one is especially unintelligent

They brought it back as the episode progressed but I'm pretty sure they threw in all that stuff for us.

>>10947

During the second season.

>>10972

>>10973

Not to mention when she was a "guest" of a guy who was basically trying his best to protect her she shot him and robbed him.

>>10977

yeah that struck me as well. I didn't see that as a flaw in the show as much as a consequence of her character or a potential grey area that i wish the show had acknowledged. If you really want to get down with flaws, how about when she rejoins Roboto and hur chows, she literally hugs the first while holding a loaded firearm and waving it around.

>>10973

we jest, but to be honest other than the 'single mom' angle, literally nothing about her or those kids is particularly 'black'. I'm pretty sure this episode was entirely written by whites and it shows.

>>10977

>Keep it on stun. These people may not value life, but we do.

<Please ignore the guy I killed for his gun, and the other guy I killed for a blood sample.

I haven't been able to watch orville but damn this sounds like the dream star trek show I always wanted.

>>10980

She didn't have the option of using a gun with a stun setting, its a little different.

>>10973

>>10972

Dr. Dindu wanted the ginger pilot to accompany them because she wanted a 'male figure' to keep the boys in line. That was the worst aspect of the episode.

>muh stronk womyn

>more horseshit about Mercer and Grayson's broken marriage

Really starting to miss the character development we lost in the time-travel fuckery at the end of 'Pria'.

Also: Who is best character, Bortus or Issac?

The absolute state of faggotry in this episode, cancel it now.

Did anyone else notice that the other Union ship had two not-nacelle arches instead of three?

Makes me wonder what internal rules, if any, the ship designs are supposed to follow.

>>11199

>>11198

Their shuttles also only have 2 if my memory serves.

Could be that those rings work like thrusters, so depending on the speed and preformance you want from your ship, you may need bigger or more of them for the ships size?

>>11205

I believe it's a combination of this and redundancy, as one ring is sufficient for engaging the quantum drive. Maybe bigger rings are more efficient, but for vessels operating at or beyond the border of union territory, they're going for redundancy over efficiency?

Also wondering about a saucer separation analogue. Is the section connected to the lower ring meant as a lifeboat?

>>11199

I notice that the lower arch is quite a bit lower set than Orville's middle arch, so it could be a matter of having the ship's mass roughly evenly distributed between them.

>>11196

>>11207

Overall the episode I felt was a bit of a drag and needed more of the crew rather than the relationship. Still was decent overall.

>>11198

>>11199

>>11205

>>11208

>>11211

Are we seeing the beginings of autistic Orville ship discussion?

>>11214

Damn right we are. It's the only way to kill Fake Geeks, to unleash and redefine the power of geeks of yore!

>>11230

And the fact he pretty much ended up revenge cucking her

>>11230

I don't see the pheromone thing as a good thing.

For one thing, why would a space alien who evoled in an alien environment with no common biology with earth, sweat out pheromones that incapacitate a humans ability to think or act?

Its as stupid as a gelatinous blob that reproduces asexually, being obsessed with pursuing a sexual relationship. Shouldn't the entire concept of a sexual relationship be an academic curiosity to him?

Main problem with the episode for me was the way Darulio was so incredibly nonchelant about him sweating date rape drugs and how noone else knew. You'd think something like that would make his species incredibly notorious and have warnings be posted anywhere they go about their effects.

Also, both Kelly and Mercer would have their careers ruined for the way they acted half the episode. Blowing off negotiations and ignoring your diplomatic guests like that, to the point it starts a shooting war, is the kind of shit that would get you a dishonorable discharge in most other services, or at least a permanent assignment to the Antarctic or the equivalent there off.

If I was them, I would also be extremely worried about either of those alien races figuring out that their ambassadors where drugged to make them agree to a ceasefire. That kind of shit would make for one hell of a diplomatic incident…

Something has been on my mind. In Into the Fold, it's said that they were sent 1000 light years away, and that it would take the Orville weeks to reach them. How does this compare to warp speed?

>>11231

that aspect makes it so much better

>>11232

Reminds me of the competency of Starfleet during TOS.

>>11233

Voyager's 70kly would presumably take 70 years at maximum speed, which is about 2.7ly/day. Now lets say that by "weeks" they meant about 5-10 weeks (for anything more than that they'd probably use months) which would put them at roughly 14-28ly/d. Another thing that you have to consider is that for Voyager's 1kly/year doesn't account for any significant maintenance stops whereas Orville's estimate might include that. Then again, maybe it was just a wild guess that was way off and it would've taken the Orville months instead of weeks (or was it Isaac who made the guess?) which could put it close that Voyager's speeds.

>>11232

It's a comedy, you autist.

>>11239

>Odo

Calling it now, he learns to shape shift and gets live action played by the actor.

>>11245

I wouldn't be surprised if this happens and it would feel pretty predictable if it did. Then again, so far the track record of this show has been pretty good. It has given a few surprises

>>11236

It was Isaac. I would say "weeks" means 3-5.

>doesn't account for any significant maintenance stops whereas Orville's estimate might include that

The shuttle traveled into uncharted space, so stopping for maintenance probably wasn't factored in.

>>11239

If Doctor Nig wasn't so unappealing, this scene would've been pretty hot

Why would pheromones turn mercer into a raging homosexual? Wouldn't pheromones make the guy just super bro-tier? Norm and dr dindu were afflicted by the same pheromones and neither of them wanted to get into bugchasing.

Is this episode a setup/foreshadowing of mercer's faggotry or bisexuality?

Poz angle was absolutely thrown in there under orders from high up. Why did they not show mercer wanting to fuck his whoo-er of an ex-wife? Or some sexy little junior officer thot?

Why did dr dindu go after norm despite her well-established disgust for him and not some other nigger?

>>11280

>orders from higher up

>on Fox

What?

>>11282

>faggot episode

>faggot/tranny episode

are you implying fox is immune from current year kosher poz?

You faggots said this show wasn’t faggotry. Why did I believe you dumb bastards?

>>11230

Liked it, it depicted lust based relationships in a negative light, and classed homosex as a type of lust-based relationship requiring the use of some kind of external agent.

>>11231

>faggotry is revenge cucking

Yeah, what a victory.

This is family guy in space. This exact plot was done with Bill Clinton. Lois sleeps with him, then Peter does. This is the same shit.

At this point it’s just delusion to pretend this isn’t SJW garbage. Its only good comparatively to STD and because you faggots are starved for any kind of Trek.

>>11288

>>11291

>wailing and gnashing of teeth over one episode where pheromones are at work

>family guy in space

You paying attention to how this show is developing?

>>11243

This. The episode was pretty fun, it brought some closure to the Ed/Kelly story and opened up a new direction for them (maybe they'll end up together again). There's one thing that I really enjoy on The Orville is the way the bridge crew act like professionals when the captain and the commander are away. They aren't waiting for orders or panic, Alara or Bortus steps in and assume command until Ed and Kelly are back.

Also the first scene showed the crew having fun without acting like a bunch of drunk teenagers. It was the complete opposite of what STD showed in the Mudd time loop episode.

>>11218

>>11219

>fun science fiction show made by people who love science (they don't pretend to "fucking" love it)

>they care about the lore and world building

>practical effects as much as possible

>aliens with prosthetics who can still act under the makeup

>they use a real orchestra for every episode (I wish Seth would let Ron Jones be a composer on this show)

>>11307

>muh family guy in space

>>>/tv/

>>11310

>s-seth macarfarlane d-didn’t make family guy space

>h-he didn’t reuse a family guy plot

>i-it’s based

I haven’t seen fanboyism this bad since Total Biscuit and gamergate

>>11316

Nice proxy. Still doesn't detract from the fact you haven't watched the show and being you are being retarded.

>>11318

I think the issue is you never watched family guy.

>>11320

>B-but muh Family Goy!

>Getting triggered this easily

Maybe you should watch STD? :^)

>>11327

>it even was the basis of a TNG episode

Wew I forget that TNG did this. Did TOS do it as well?

>>11328

>Did TOS do it as well?

TOS and TAS did it a few times iirc though Naked Now is more memorable.

>>11327

>it even was the basis of a TNG episode

A husband and wife being sexually attracted to the same person? No, that’s a family guy plot.

>11328

>triggered

The only people triggered seemed to be the posters who are oddly invested in this show.

>Maybe you should watch STD?

This is getting sad. I was willing to give the show a chance because of you retards. Then I watched it and its pozzed garbage.

>>11330

You're just getting called retarded for getting so easily upset over Family Goy without actually providing a real reason to backup your argument. Saying something is pozzed garbage just cause you don't like something is you just admitting butthurt.

>>11330

>A husband and wife being sexually attracted to the same person? No, that’s a family guy plot.

That's actually several Star Trek plots. But you'd know that if you have ever watched Trek before.

>Everyone here is triggered

>Everything I don't like is pozzed

You really are projecting too much.

>>11331

Should add that if you continue to use that line of argument then you clearly will have issue with pretty much every show that's ever been on television since they end up copying each other eventually.

Sage for double post

>>11332

>That's actually several Star Trek plots.

No it isn’t. Name one of them. Fuck, I’m struggling to name married couples on Star Trek let alone one where they both want to have sex with the same alien.

>>11331

>You're just getting called retarded for getting so easily upset over Family Goy without actually providing a real reason to backup your argument

Considering they are both created by the same person and the latest episode had the same plot as a family guy episode, I think I’m on fairly solid ground. You are just upset that someone is telling you the obvious truth.

>>11341

>No it isn’t. Name one of them.

Troi's mother is going through menopause

The psychic rapist bangs Troi with Riker's penis episode

Data in fully functional - "meine ca-pi-tann zent mi zu fix deine kable"

>>11347

>Troi's mother is going through menopause

And she wants to fuck guys. She doesn’t get Picard and Dr Crusher to fuck her

>The psychic rapist bangs Troi with Riker's penis episode

Which is about a sex offender.

>Data in fully functional - "meine ca-pi-tann zent mi zu fix deine kable"

Data fucking Denise Crosby is now bisexual polyamory? You are a daft cunt.

You’re hung up on the technobabble “lol pheremones” contrivance that justifies the degeneracy.

>>11341

>I’m struggling to name married couples on Star Trek

Name married couple on the Orville.

>>11362

The two fag aliens?

>>11363

"the Orville", not "The Orville". I mean, fair enough, but they aren't part of the crew, and they have nothing to do with a Family Guy plot.

>>11366

Wat. One of them is a member of the crew. Have you watched the show?

>>11367

Oh, them. Disregard that then.

Though the point still stands.

>>11362

Out of the Orville bridge crew only the pilot, captain, XO, and bortus are actually old enough to be married Security officer, navigator and sensors ratings are too young. Isaac is a toaster.

Bortus is married to a rare woman of his species so technically its actually a healthy straight relationship, even if she got a dick installed by court order. Captain and XO were and still would be if some alien didn't drug them and break up their marriage. The pilot is Louis CK in space.

I don't know it looks like Orville is swinging a bit closer to normal in that case.

So the Union was totally unaware that there was a species of date rapists running around? No PSA? Or did their diplomats get fucked in the ass and decide not to tell anyone because they were embarrassed?

>>11455

They probably didn't want to be called xenophobes :^)

>>11472

>They probably didn't want to be called xenophobes :^)

The Union was a space exploratory body founded by Sweden and Germany with backing from the Israelis .

>>11455

According to the scan they did on him, there's no record in the union of the pheromone molecule.

Also this goes way beyond date rape and into brainwashing territory. If they make the leader of the union in love with one of them, what couldn't they have access to? What if every time someone discovers it, the data is deleted by some union archivist who's getting fucked in the ass? What if the blue demons decide Orville has to get destroyed to purge their databanks?

They should be exterminated, or genetically modified not to have it.

>>11502

The pheromone works on different species and can make people attracted to a blob of slime. Keep the blue menace away from your kids. No wonder the Krill want to purge the galaxy.

So the Orville will be 12 Episodes instead of 13 Episodes this Season.

Literally Fox's highest rated by viewers show is getting cut an episode. Wew.

>>11683

Meh, it's cute. Also heartening to see dwellers of that cesspit having some decent taste in television.

>>11683

That first pic

>men fawning over woman's ability

>woman with cocky look on her face

>being awesome

It's funny, you can smell SJW shit from a mile away.

>>11689

>It's funny, you can smell SJW shit from a mile away.

oh ffs, all she's doing is opening a jar of pickles

>it's a metaphor for she should be in the kitchen

>tumblr shit

This thread is cancer

>>11782

Get it right, faggot, this is Deviantart shit.

>>11792

I actually had a look at pixiv after being warned by an anon not to. I wish I listened, the cancer is over the charts

>>11703

thicc kelly

>>11776

>Halloween Episode three weeks late

it wasn't that halloweenish in the end

Who played Alara's mom in this episode, she looked familiar but I couldn't place her?

>>11793

Aww, it can't be that bad. Can it?

>>11802

>Can it?

I doubt it because tumblr literally attempted (And failed, I might add) to invade and seize control of pixiv not too long ago, which caused them to face the wrath of Japanese shitposters.

>>11805

Why did they do that?

>tumblr invades…fails…incurs wrath of X shitposters

I'm seeing a pattern here.

>>11807

dumblr hates and fears the almighty 2d.

>>11793

>I actually had a look at pixiv after being warned by an anon not to

Actually never heard of it before, some alright stuff there, but I don't want to login to access it, that's gay… can someone snag the fullsize of this for me? It gave me a chuckle… (if you're familiar with Lone Wolf and Cub movies it might give you one too)

https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=65491519

>>11805

Deviantards are currently invading pixiv which is pissing me off.

>Directive 38: no bare feet in the engineering section

I don't really like the holodeck reset button, but this episode felt straight out of TNG (which is great). I was hoping for a callback to "Remember Me", or maybe something from "Frame of Mind".

"Firestorm" was also directed by our very own Brannon Braga.

>>11829

> Mixed up directive

Old Red Dwarf joke(s)

http://reddwarf.myrealm.co.uk/directives.htm

>>11828

>EMH cameo

I was hoping for more

>>11839

Is it worth watching the entire Red Dwarf series?

>>11846

The middle season are the best, but the new ones have been pretty good. (though that might just be because of the dire state of comedy on TV in [CURRENT YEAR]) Absolutely worth trying out.

>>9962 (OP)

Orville's world-ship episode was actually better than the TOS ep they ripped off.

I'm impressed with The Orville so far, but I'm getting sick of all the current year culture references in every episode, this must be what it feels like to watch Hamilton.

>>11856

>not having a party horn coming out of its mouth like the Xenomorph's proboscis

Missed opportunity.

>>11852

What episode of TOS did they rip off?

>>11862

>For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky

>>11849

What the fuck game were they playing?

Assassination of Mozart?

>>11869

Dueling by the look of it.

>>11869

>Assassination of Mozart?

I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case.

>>11846

Series 1-6, definitely. The rest is optional. 7 is probably the weakest series due to Chris Barrie leaving temporarily. 8 and Back to Earth were just kind of weird. 10-12 has been surprisingly on point, but it's not quite golden era quality.

>>11834

i like that episode where, especially when she was bouncing ideas off the computer to ensure they were logically correct/consistent.

This last one was my favorite episode so far. Spooky and atmospheric, I really liked it. The holodeck reset was a little lame, but other than that i enjoyed the whole thing. Was not expecting the holodeck end. Would have thought more creepy metaphysical thoughtform (maymays manifesting in a weird area of space).

Alara is growing on me, shame her ayylmao features are so ugly and offputting

Autistic question: If she's strong on a herculean level in such a small frame, would not her muscle density and bone density mean she weighs like 800 pounds?

>>11963

>>11963

>Alara is growing on me, shame her ayylmao features are so ugly and offputting

SHould elaborate. Her feminine/innocent fear and vulnerability is endearing in the way her stronk indypyndynt ayylmao womxn persona and ability to dismember anyone at will is not. Actress did a decent job displaying fear and unease throughout.

Autism point #2, wouldn't a high gravity (giving her 10-100x strength) imply that she would be real short and broad, kinda like a (rpg, not tlc-tier) dwarf?

>>11963

Isn't Alara also implied in this episode to be retarded by her race's standard?

>>11978

If you want to view it that way. You could also argue it states that military personal are highly underestimated by academia or the general public because of shit publicity stunts from the left since nam. Also regarding earlier posts this notion that every tv character needs to be a 10/10 is fucking annoying. people look different, deal with it shitheads.

>>11982

Are you offering a waifu? ARE YOU?

>>11963

>shame her ayylmao features are so ugly and offputting

How the fuck are you one /strek/?

>>11987

Alium features in a general sense are good, for her specifically the ears are really offputting

>>11985

What waifu are you attempting to claim?

>>12029

Mammy Doctor.

>>12045

Well fug you can have her.

>>12105

>that would mean the ship is almost entirely staffed by officers, which doesn't seem right.

perhaps not "right", but a faithful tribute to Star Trek, where extras and guest stars were almost exclusively portrayed as officers. Those that canonically werent officers where usually visually indistinguishable from officers in all but close shots since Star Trek - particularly TNG and beyond - did a shit job of establishing what non-commissioned and enlisted Starfleet personnel actually were and how they should look.

I wouldn't be surprised if The Orville's costumes were color-coded based on nothing more than what looked best on certain actors - particularly McFarlaine himself. This would also be faithful to Star Trek.

>>12105

Badges give a better clue. Strategic decision crew has swooshes and stars, tactical decision crew has just swooshes, ship operation is gears, science is a cross (lel) with an atom, soldiers are a shield.

Gray uniforms come in 2 formats. There's plain gray, and gray with red trim.

I think gray with red trim are bureaucrats. My reasoning is based on the initial intro scene where Mercer gives the speech, gray uniforms are seen standing as close to the front as any other rank, so they're not rank based (not trainees or enlisted), also in the same scene they're seen wearing all types of badges. I've so far seen them with engineering, security and command badges. Ergo they're the paperwork guys.

Plain gray with no badge seem to be general labor and supply. I've seen them most around food and in the docking bay, moving boxes and stuff. So they'll be everything from janitors to servants.

If you think about it the color scheme makes sense.

Green is largely independent because it's the science class, they do learning stuff, and curing people, and everything in between.

Warm colors, the Red and Orange, are similar because their jobs on the ship are similar, ensuring ship runs smoothly in response to orders. Orange deals with technical threats, Red deals with people threats to the ship.

Cool colors like Purple and Blue are similar in color because they both do command. The only difference is one commands at a higher level of resolution, and other at lower. Even the Purple makes sense, as it's blue (command) with a dash of red (people problems), basically Purple is the politics guys.

The two Gray uniform types are also similar in what they do, but slightly different, hence slightly different color schemes.

does this mean im autism

>>12124

>the Red and Orange, are similar because their jobs on the ship are similar

How exactly are the marines job on a ship similar to the gunners? If anything, operations and tactical would be similar, since both involve operating the equipment on the ship. Security on the other hand are essentially the marine detachment on board to provide muscle and dudes with guns where necessary.

Most likely the grey uniforms are non-coms with red trims maybe being the ones that are the equivalent of corporals or sergeants?

The reason we don't see them around much is that the ship may be mostly crewed by various officers, due to most of them needing years of training, kind of like fighter pilots, but that's pure guess work.

>>12105

I think the lack of enlisted may be due to the fact we've hardly seen areas outside the bridge. Been a few jumpsuits in engineering, hangar and mess hall which could be the enlisted.

>>12105

>There's also a second type of uniform seen, all grey with no epaulets and department colored badge and trim. Any idea what this is supposed to signify?

Maybe they're the equivalent of the MACO from ENT?

Someone should ask Seth on twatter. I've heard that he answers a lot of technical questions about The Orville.

>>12155

>Reveal to Seth the existence of /strek/

Honestly wonder how that would go down

>>12128

Youre looking at tasks, not goals. Flip your thinking inside out.

>still obsessed with his military comparison that no one in hollywood is aware of

Oh dont want to admit youre wrong?

>>12155

See >>12124

We never see them fighting.

>>12242

Benis

>>12226

>Youre looking at tasks, not goals.

By that logic, security and doctors should have the same color since they both have the same goal, that of keeping everyone else alive.

The tasks the crewmen do on the ship is what defines their roles on the crew.

>still obsessed with his military comparison that no one in hollywood is aware of

>Oh dont want to admit youre wrong?

The hell are you talking about? Are you replying to some other post or something?

>>12243

That's exactly what Todd McFarlane would say!

>>12242

>How do you know he's not here already?

>implying he's not Z'Dar poster

>>12245

They arent "doctors", they're scientists in general. Stop thinking in military terms.

Where is the next episode?

>>12418

this coming Thursday. Yesterday was Burgerland Consumer Holiday Eve so no episode.

>>12439

Burgers are the worst.

>>12445

Second season of the Battlebots reboot got shafted by the NFL and the Olympics when it was airing but did pretty good. Not enough for ABC to pick up a third season. Robot Wars are currently on a break for tennis so I dunno, people would rather a ball being chased than watching a good sci-fi show or robots smashing each other.

>>12445

Half of it is execs trying to get series they don't like cancelled and the other half is like >>12461 said- sports autists can't handle their game being interrupted by a TV show despite said game being aired on multiple channels.

>>12477

>Half of it is execs trying to get series they don't like cancelled

Reminds me of how the BBC handled Top Gear.

>>12461

Battlebots and Robot Wars are airing again?

Why am I just now hearing about this?

>>12493

What happened? All I remember is them replacing the hosts with a bunch of faggots no one liked and the old hosts making a new show with Amazon.

>>12504

tl;dr version: Basically a bunch of hetrosexual middle aged white men running a politically incorrect motoring show in CURRENT YEAR London Centric BBC. Naturally the suits at BBC wanted to axe it bad.

Long version: Top Gear and BBC never got on well despite Top Gear being one of the few rare shows that MADE the BBC money. In fact it was a multimillion dollar franchise that spanned the globe and one of the most popular shows on television. BBC would rather have multicultural ethnic friendly shows centered around London pushing diversity. Whenever Top Gear won an award the BBC refused to cover it or give them a congratulations despite the fact they rolled out the red carpets for The Office. The worst thing the BBC did was how they treated the production team of Top Gear; which was like shit. The production team of Top Gear is something the Presenters were always happy to talk about cause they are absolutely top notch, insanely talented and of course absolutely undervalued. When the trio left the BBC they took said production team with them which really bit the BBC on the ass. When Amazon picked up The Grand Tour they were not just picking up the presenters, they were picking up an award winning professional production company which really is heavily underplayed. There's a reason why Amazon shows suddenly jumped in production quality. Netflex really screwed the pooch by not picking up the whole package.

>>12502

Where have you been. Seasons 6 & 7 of BB, which is pretty good and Seasons 8, 9 & 10 of RW. Catch up, lots of good matches with modern technology.

>>12505

Don't forget the abysmal coverage of the, what was the word they used, fracas(?) that led to CHM going. So goddamn biased against Clarkson it was unbelievable.

Being stuck in a car, driving from dawn til dusk (often over a few days at a time), constantly having to ad-lib to the cameras that shit's stressful no matter how you might enjoy cars. Expecting a half-decent meal at the end of the day is just the obvious thing, but the BBC cronie in charge didn't even say to the kitchen staff "Hey, stay on for another few hours and the Beeb will cover your overtime" nor even request use of a kitchen, cunt just went "Okay, here's some sandwiches and a flask of tea, enjoy"

Anybody would lose the rag after that sort of treatment.

>>12552

Apparently they chased off Stephen Fry and Jeremy Paxman as well.

New episode!

>Cmdr. Newton is getting put on a bus.

They'd better not go through with it, he was cool.

>>12644

I just stopped watching QI when Fry went.

What'sherface was consistently one of the worst recurring guests and the thought of having her as a host was just "Fuck this, no.", I suppose Jo Brand could have been worse, but at least she tried (if failed) to be funny.

I'll be happy if MacFarlane is somehow turning Lamar into a commentary on Geordi from TNG by using pretty much the exact opposite sort of black dude. However, this nigga has shit for acting range. I cringed every time the script told him he was supposed to "be smart" in this episode. The earnestness doesn't work. They should just let him be basically a negro retard in speech and demeanor but have Isaac-tier performance at his job. That would be the joke… ghetto jive technobabble.

Also, the relationship B-plot was some seriously tedious pandering to whatever female audience they think they have. I think the director for this episode was a female, too. I accept that we'll have to put up with these from time to time. Overall C-grade episode, though. Alara had an adorable line about the cats, though.

>>12552

Punching the guy may have been a little over the line, but Clarkson had every right to be mad at some cunt refusing to do his job.

>>12926

probably the worst of the season so far

it was still enjoyable, the bordis tentacle rape killed me, and the 3d>2d thing made sense, kind of like the Q essentially being higher than 3dimensional beings

>>12937

>Le Cat

I feel like they are going to introduce Spot?

>>12956

> I just hope the rumors of losing Alara aren't true…

TASHA'D

>>12956

>>12937

Look at his IMDB it's basically all extra work and behind the scenes shit. He's not a real actor. I have no idea why they picked him.

Eh, not a great episode overall. Slime guy's dialogue is always a little to Family Guy for my taste. Flatland was neat though, I wish they'd explored that a little more. It's a shame to find a new type of life and not communicate or even take a close look at them.

>>12956

>rumors of losing Alara

W-what? Please no, she's too cute to lose.

>>12961

Oh, I'm sure it is. Replicator access and power are still scarce resources (as is the time of people in service jobs) and if they've convinced themselves that money is obsolete, they have literally no way to determine who gets to use each replicator other than fighting over them or government mandate. I bet power consumption is rationed too, then. Better hope you know someone that can bend the rules in your favor.

Is this just to be a mirror of the Federation or is MacFarlane legitimately a commie?

>>12966

Fair points. I suppose that replicators are somehow limited rather than just infintely producing anything from surrounding matter though (or that human replicator technology would have to be much more advanced than other societies), or there would be no reason to have trade ships like the one we saw in episode 11.

>>12964

> is MacFarlane legitimately a commie?

If you'd ever seen him speak outside of his shows you'd know he's a hardcore leftist. He's just not a super SJW, because that makes it hard to do comedy.

I don't really see why replicators have to be rationed. If there is no capitalism then there is no marketing and nobody trying to create consumerist impulses that results in consumerism. People are probably more concerned with their jobs or education and bettering themselves instead of buying shit.

>>12972

I heard he gave Rush Limbaugh a fair shake on Family Guy, though, didn't he?

>>12966

Maybe replicators require Latinum in their construction? This is like asking why the Federation can't replicate entire ships.

>>12974

Holodecks are definitely rationed, though, because they're a limited resource. Maybe replicators are always being used at full capacity?

>>12974

Capitalism doesn't cause the urge to buy things, job specialization combined with survival prerequisites causes people to barter things they have in exchange for things that they want, aka Capitalism. The thing that causes the consumerist glut is caused by the fact that basic necessity is very easily covered, leaving a great deal of extra resource that people can barter with

>>12975

>>12976

The problem with the idea of rationing replicators is that the power requirements to power the ship at "quantum speed" are probably immense. The replicators will use virtually no power in comparison.

>>12977

So maybe they have a limited number of replicators? Or quantum drives don't actually take that much power--we did see that shuttles have quantum drives in this episode.

>>12956

>losing Alara

>"Let's destroy everything good about the show while making as few changes as possible." - Script Writers

>>12961

>>12964

>>12966

There has to be some limit on what Joe Citizen is capable of obtaining through replication. Why would Mercer care about commanding a Union ship if he could just replicate his own, along with enough android hotties to crew it for him? Why would Newton leave the Orville to take a post building a space station if he could design it himself in SpaceSolidworks and replicate the whole thing the next day?

So let's assume that the Union is post-scarcity only as far as domestic goods are concerned.

There are always going to be things that are scarce even if material goods aren't. Postings on Union ships, for instance, are finite. Living space, especially in particular areas, is finite.

Want to explore space? You'd better be able to prove that you, among countless applicants, are the only one worthy of being there, or take a menial job to get your foot in the door, or both.

Want that fancy New New York apartment? Better have some serious political clout, or be able to prove that you need to live there to do whatever it is you do to contribute to society.

I'd imagine that it works a lot like Research funding in Academia. Not only do you have to be a brilliant scientist, you also have to be a brilliant marketer, because you have to convince the people in charge that your experiments are the best possible use of their equipment and time. Which in turn makes me wonder why they had so much trouble getting Lt. Lamar out of trouble on Planet Reddit.

>>12979

You are overthinking the whole thing. We see Ed Mercer live in a stack em and pack em NWO style apartment in NYC in episode 1. Since they build densely there is no reason why they don't just build densely outwards from the urban core. There is no monetary incentive to NOT build housing like in major cities right now. Also, we are usually assuming that the replicators are there to produce consumer goods for people and parts for the ship. You are not going to replicate an entire starbase with a standard replicator. Quality of life is probably pretty high with the replicators so people are probably not as concerned where they live since machines are dirt cheap.

>>12975

I gave up on Family Guy ages ago. Maybe he did, but all the interviews I've seen of him make him look like a full blown commie.

>>12981

>>12979

Guys, you are missing a more fundamental flaw in this line of logic.

If they are living in a post scarcity economy, why he from a planet of farmers?

Also, how is the guy plotting the ships course and telling the pilot what to look out for, qualified to lead the ships engineering section? Does he spent a lot of time off screen repairing shit around the ship, reading technical manuals for the machinery on board and such or something? Or did they take someone who got insanely good grades for engineering and made him a navigator originally?

>>12987

The whole Lt. Lamar plotline is what happened to Geordi on TNG. One day Geordi was head of engineering like Lt. Lamar. But yeah, they basically chose him because of his grades and test scores.

>>12989

Maybe the colonists like farming? Maybe the colony is not able to acquire replicators until it meets certain criteria because of the power requirements? Would you install a warp reactor on a small colony for a few replicators or would you wait until you had enough of a population to justify it? That is probably what is going on.

But more than likely it is just sloppy writing like usual.

>>12989

>He presumably grew up on an agriworld

Thats what they said in the show, but why would you need more than a few luddites making food the old way to sell as a luxury and because of misguided principles, in a world where they have small cheap machines that can make food for next to no cost? You'd think that would undermine any economic model that involves large scale agriculture of any kind.

>>13005

maybe some people think replicated food is like fluoride tap water