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d379f3 (5) No.3423>>3433 >>3467 >>4837 >>5030 >>12289 >>16459 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

Apart from Admiral Ross, why are the Admirals of Starfleet either batshit insane, retarded, or evil?

dfbf69 (6) No.3426>>3427

Military competency only gets you to Lt. Colonel (Commander), political connections get you Colonel(Captain) and above promotions. Generals/Admirals are just arms of the ZOG.


d379f3 (5) No.3427>>3430

>>3426

I guess humans aren't as evolved in the Federation as they think they are?


dfbf69 (6) No.3430>>3432

>>3427

>I guess humans aren't as evolved in the Federation as they think they are?

I was paraphrasing many butthurt Lt. Colonel's I've seen over the years on news programs, maybe it's just that they never got that promotion, but they all the echo the mantra that if you're a competent military man but not a politician, you'll never pass Lt. Colonel/Commander (O-5) in the services.


d379f3 (5) No.3432

>>3430

Considering how a lot of Admirals act in Star Trek, they seem a bunch of "Yes" men it would explain a lot Then again that wouldn't explain Ross Though another reason they seem twisted is probably cause they are too close to Earth.


634805 (2) No.3433>>3437 >>12272 >>16459

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>>3423 (OP)

Admiral Forrest was pretty based. I'm not sure he counts though, since he was pre-federation.


d379f3 (5) No.3437

>>3433

Forgot about him honestly. Cause I forgot about Enterprise


31932b (4) No.3439>>3440 >>3443

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What about the admirals who did nothing.


d379f3 (5) No.3440>>3442

>>3439

Dindu nuffin or did nothing at all?


31932b (4) No.3442>>3488 >>3516

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>>3440

Nothing at all.


dfbf69 (6) No.3443>>3446 >>3464

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>>3439

What about the admirals who colluded with the ZOG?


dfbf69 (6) No.3446

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>>3443

>What about the admirals who colluded with the ZOG?


615575 (6) No.3464

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>>3443

>What about the admirals who colluded with the ZOG?

Well, the first one ended up leaving Starfleet, opening a restaurant, and having a kid who was a complete social justice bitch.


eb4529 (1) No.3467>>3518 >>12294

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>>3423 (OP)

I would ascribe most of the problems with Starfleet's upper echelon of officers to interference by the civilian government (both direct and indirect); The Federation Council.

Because Starfleet is a subordinate organisation to the civilian government.

Simply reaching the highest ranks is inherently going to involve much more in the way of political ability then any sort of aptitude that is directly relevant to the official duties of a given rank.

Simply put, cronyism, nepotism, sycophancy and ideological virtue signalling are the names of the game, not Meritocracy.

Much like in real life.

Civilian governments and militaries (including de-facto militaries, ala Starfleet) are like water and oil.

And in all honesty, one needs the other far more then it itself is needed.


cff21d (1) No.3469>>3479

Unless we get an admiral who's a recurring character it figures that all of the admirals we see a) do nothing or b ) are a poor representation of Star Fleet. Being relatable is mostly the job of the main cast; characters like these exist to spur conflict. The rest (>>3439) are just there to serve a role.

's my headcanon, anyway; we're only ever seeing a slice of the universe and at this rate we're not gonna see anything more because we'll be blinded by lens flares.


dfbf69 (6) No.3479

>>3469

>we're only ever seeing a slice of the universe

(((they))) are trying to show us the best slice of the Federation, and even then it is a corrupt dirty entity which should gassed with no survivors.


3f165f (1) No.3488>>3505 >>3508

>>3442

>Nechayev did nothing at all

>Made retarded decision after retarded decision that put everyone at risk.


538b4c (1) No.3492>>3494

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>implying he did anything wrong


83523a (2) No.3494>>3517

>>3492

But he was a Captain not an Admiral?


a3b313 (1) No.3505>>3507 >>3508 >>12294

>>3488

this

nechayev was so misguided in her command that she was either actually retarded, or she was secretly colluding with the cardies


83523a (2) No.3507>>3508 >>12294

>>3505

She also failed to completely grasp the seriousness of the threat of the Maquis. In my headcanon her dismissive nature towards the Maquis force Starfleet officers to either defect to or support the Maquis.


31932b (4) No.3508>>3511

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>>3488

>>3505

>>3507

All Nechayev did was tell Picard to go on the commando raid, to move those stupid Indians, and to kill the borg like he was suppose to. Not her fault that Sisko and Picard fucked up dealing with the Marquis.She just wanted someone to get those hotheads out of here.


84541a (1) No.3511>>3514 >>12295

>>3508

>tell Picard to go on the commando raid

Which ended with picard getting captured and nearly started the very war they where trying to prevent. Not sure what else she expected, sending a 50 year old guy used to commanding a ship off to do ninja shit behind enemy lines…

> to move those stupid Indians

Picard objected to this, she ignored this and ordered him to do it anyway and the indians promptly defected to the enemy instead.

Lets not forget that Nechayev was also the brains behind the covert operation that sent Ro Laren, a Bajoran with repeated disciplinary issues who grew up in a refugee camp, off to infiltrate the maquis for the federation, resulting in Ro defecting to the Maquis at her earliest opportunity. What a surprise.

This is not really an impressive track record for her.

And since we're debating insane and/or incompetent admirals, how have we gotten this far with noone mentioning Janeway? She was admiral by the time Nemisis came around as if that movie wasn't terrible enough


31932b (4) No.3514

>>3511

Picard was an expert on that weird shit so his going was a logical choice. They probably should have sent a couple extra guys who can fight, but Starfeet security is somewhat laughable. She also offered to let someone else take command so he wouldn't have to move the Indians himself, but Wesely had to fuck everything up. Ro was finally shaping up to be a good officer, and her heritage would make sense for her to join the maquis. So she was a good choice for the mission.


615575 (6) No.3516

>>3442

We're all agreed that Nechayev wanted Picard to give her the D, right?


615575 (6) No.3517>>3527

>>3494

He's an admiral in the expanded universe.


615575 (6) No.3518>>4838

>>3467

>Morons who have, through blind luck or cowardice, managed to keep their commands from being eaten by space weevils, eventually are in line for promotion

>In order to keep them from killing more good men and women, they are kicked upstairs, where they mostly draft memos and stay out of everyone's way

>occasionally they get a wild hair in their ass and go tearing off on some Quixotic windmill-rape adventure, pulling in the flagship of the fleet and its captain and crew

>Good men and women get killed

Also: worst admiral is pic related.


625c96 (2) No.3527>>3529 >>3610

>>3517

So they actually promoted someone who could get shit done?


dfbf69 (6) No.3529>>3534

>>3527

>So they actually promoted someone who could get shit done?

Saves the world, gets busted down to captain. Same fate as admiral kirk.


634805 (2) No.3534>>3623 >>12296

>>3529

That's one of the primary reasons why the federation is destined to eventually fall. The bureaucrats at the highest levels continuously reject and deny those they label as 'mavericks' because they are horrified at the sight of someone they cannot control. They are far too concerned with their own personal comfort to do anything of value.


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>>3527

>So they actually promoted someone who could get shit done?

Peter David writes him as a whiny little shit.


625c96 (2) No.3619>>3628 >>19827

>>3610

So as Peter David's self insert?


9fb435 (1) No.3623

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>>3534

Almost like real life.


615575 (6) No.3628

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>>3619

Nice.


aa799a (1) No.4833>>5034 >>5167

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old admiral pappy from Best of Both Worlds was pretty based, i guess. They liked him enough to invite him to poker… and he knew how to spot a prime piece of ass. he didn't fly his ship so good, but if you're gonna go out, pre-nerf borg is probably one of the more glorious deaths.


6dfa59 (2) No.4837

>>3423 (OP)

Because they went full policitcal ass covering, blackmail manufacturing, corrupt trash when they realized actual skill was no longer required at that level, and obedience was more desired from the lower ranks.

Could have kept going too, had they gone to bat for their colonists in the Cardassian War.


6dfa59 (2) No.4838>>5143

>>3518

Lol fuck you. That was least bad thing with Nemesis


127e9a (1) No.5030

>>3423 (OP)

'Absolute power corrupts absolutely'

- Lord Acton

Most (some) of them think that their position and power allows them to make their own moral judgement over that of the Federation, which sometimes ends in a good way but often ends badly..


e6f98f (1) No.5034

>>4833

He seemed like he'd be a great father


32514f (1) No.5143

>>4838

That's not saying much.


939fa1 (2) No.5167>>5168 >>12188

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>>4833

So I saw the pic of Shelby and, naturally, I wondered if she'd done any nudes. Couldn't remember her name so I went to Imdb.

>Elizabeth Dennehy was born on October 1, 1960 in Jacksonville, North Carolina, USA as Elizabeth Hannah Dennehy. She is an actress, known for Gattaca (1997), The Game (1997) and Hancock (2008). She has been married to James Lancaster since August 19, 1993. They have two children.

She's not sexy, more matronly, but, considering how old she is, not bad. If I was 10 years older, I'd be at full mast. Sure, she's got a few more wrinkles, and having two kids probably wrecked her downstairs area, but… Wait, what's this next bit?

>Trivia

>Daughter of actor Brian Dennehy.

==DAMMIT!== Now I can't unsee it!


939fa1 (2) No.5168>>5171 >>13035

>>5167

What the dicks? We don't have redtext?


77f891 (1) No.5171

>>5168

You can't redtext on the same line dumbass

==It== breaks

it


528cb0 (1) No.12188

>>5167

She seems like she would cuck a man.


ff1692 (1) No.12272>>16444

>>3433

Admiral Forest helped build the organization and had very little ass to kiss to reach the top. Competency counts for a lot in the beginning.


897070 (10) No.12289

>>3423 (OP)

Because its purely about politics and domestic control.


897070 (10) No.12294>>12300 >>12395

>>3467

>Simply put, cronyism, nepotism, sycophancy and ideological virtue signalling are the names of the game, not Meritocracy

And its extremely intentional. The people behind creating the environment for those people to thrive designed it that way, because they foresaw less need for warriors and more bureaucrats and internal policing.

>>3505

>>3507

Its high level international politics.

No, when the Cardassian-Federation War that O'Brien fought in prior to TNG occured, that whole area was heavily disputed, partially because Cardassia occupied Bajor and the Federation already had some settlers on the otherside of Bajor and were getting mixed up with Cardassian settlers.

I think the Federation-Cardassian treaty may have included a secret clause about the scheduled withdrawal from Bajor, leaving the station there and intact, in exchange for de facto Cardassian sovereignty over the disputed territories that would become the Maquis areas.

Some real bastardry there, but theoretically understandable if the Federation was concerned about appearing to be just another expansionist, imperialist power, that in fact WAS subverting and adjusting aliens cultures as necessary for future admission into the Federation, minimizing future threats and increasing its strength. Which it most likely WAS, but being obvious about it is detrimental, and would provoke a lot of bad blood from its neighbors if they became aware.

Its likely the Klingons hated them for this very reason, and its half the reason the Romulans are so paranoid. That bald Lt who became Maquis? He was right.

No, I'd assume the majority of Section 31 isn't mad supervillain shit, but just long term cultural subversion and adjustment to prepare potential enemies to become allies, working alongside or even as diplomats in some cases, and small nudge cloak and dagger, rumors and blackmail type shit.

Basically, NATO.

And the Maquis weren't a threat, in fact, they were a useful boon for dumping every officer who had rebellious thoughts against the party line out and letting them get killed. The complete lack of Federation assistance was intentional, as was putting someone like Sisko at DS9. who didn't think too largely and didn't question too much.

A bootlicker, content to defend the institutions of power. Janeway was similar, her combined with Voyager were meant to provide a permanent and overwhelming amount of Federation power to help crush and regulate the Maquis. I have no doubt she and Sisko would have made excellent friends.

Then woops, Voyager dissappears and is assumed dead.

tldr

The Federation saw Starfleet as an auxilary warfighting force, purely a backup, one with possible coup tendencies. They had decided on a longer, slower war waged with propaganda, treaties, and subversion, and quietly expanding throughout the quadrant, absorbing all of the smaller powers that they could with Starfleet as the guarantee.

They basically saw that, with the Klingons now standing down, and the Romulans remaining behind their borders, that there was no power in the vicinity that could threaten them, even with a much reduced military. But even reduced, idle militaries always get ideas…

But then the Borg introduced themselves….then the Dominion was encountered. And the Dominion. My god, with basically the equivalent of the Marshall Programand a partial deployment, they were outproducing and outpacing every major power in the Quadrant.

Sisko evens points out that had they waited and gave the Dominion/Cardassia time to recover, they would swamp them with ships and crush them.

So yeah. Starfleet did a NATO, only for two massively stronger rival factions to be discovered and got caught with their pants down.


897070 (10) No.12295

>>3511

>And since we're debating insane and/or incompetent admirals, how have we gotten this far with noone mentioning Janeway? She was admiral by the time Nemisis came around as if that movie wasn't terrible enough

Because Chucky, she was perfect Admiral material, while Picard was too well liked and frankly, illsuited for the position.


897070 (10) No.12296

>>3534

>The bureaucrats at the highest levels continuously reject and deny those they label as 'mavericks' because they are horrified at the sight of someone they cannot control.

This is intentional. It isn't a flaw, its not really a feature. It's more of a goal itself.


49da36 (4) No.12300>>12327

>>12294

For a start, your spacing annoys me. Secondly, the Borg and Dominion War collectively drained the Federation dry. Had the Reman dreadnought reached Earth, Starfleet probably wouldn't be able to stop it. Thirdly, Sisko and Janeway would probably despise each other: One for having a moral compass and the other for a callous lack of ethics and judgement perfect Admiral material, true. Fourthly, I wouldn't put Benjamin"It's easy to be a saint in Paradise" Sisko in the same paragraph as bootlicker.


897070 (10) No.12327>>12341 >>12395

>>12300

1. Its a copypaste of another post on this board, I didn't realize the spacing was fucked until too late.

2. He licked that boot so hard he was wiling to explicitly genocide his own people because he hated the Maquis.

3. The Borg hardly did shit to the Federation, but yeah the Dominion did. The Dominion cockslapped the Alpha Quadrant.

Good timing too, because thanks to Hope and Fear of ST:Voyager, we know Deflector shenanigans is all it takes to take a Warp vessel to Slipstream. A Slipstream fast enough to cross the galaxy in less than 6 months, and its a technology that once properly developed, can cross the galaxy in minutes.

Would have been a downright horror show had the Dominion War been delayed for twenty years, when both them and the Alpha Quadrant becomes nearly next door neighbhors.


49da36 (4) No.12341>>12349

>>12327

2. No, he was willing to drive them off. And what do you mean, "his people"? I see a bootlicker as a sycophant, not reluctant in the least. What do you see?

>hardly did shit

>thirty nine ships and eleven thousand trained crewmen dead at Wolf 359 alone (we don't know how many died in the crushing afterward) is nothing

They were recovering from that nightmare for years, and the Battle of 001 did about half that damage. I'd say the Borg did a number on the Federation every time they made a big appearance.

>Slipstream

Which…was never used again, correct? I think we can ignore that.


897070 (10) No.12349>>12351 >>12395

>>12341

>>12341

>2. No, he was willing to drive them off. And what do you mean, "his people"? I see a bootlicker as a sycophant, not reluctant in the least. What do you see?

Oh yes, the patented "Be completely retarded" strategy mixed in with the "Understate and downplay" tactic.

>>thirty nine ships and eleven thousand trained crewmen dead at Wolf 359 alone (we don't know how many died in the crushing afterward) is nothing

Yes, that is nothing. Its completely fucking nothing. A Scouting mission, nothing more.

>Which…was never used again, correct? I think we can ignore that.

That particular variant no, also?

That would cover half of Star Trek, and this isn't Vs Debate so…again, the "Look at how retarded I am". It isn't funny.


49da36 (4) No.12351>>12363

>>12349

I'm starting to wonder if we watched the same series, or you're being deliberately obtuse about being questioned.


897070 (10) No.12363>>12365 >>12395 >>13098 >>13099

>>12351

>No, he was willing to drive them off

By committing genocide. Against Federation species.

He's a bootlicker who is wedded to defending the institutions of power, and holds no other real morals.

Janeway is more idealistic and wedded to the supposed ideals that the Federation stands for than he is, to the point of it being a major flaw in her character, thats how idealistic she is, how much she actually beleives.

Sisko cares about the structure, the bureaucracy, the authority, far more than he ever cared about the ideals or the people that are supposed to hold them. He doesn't give a damn about Federation ideals, and only cares about its people until they start questioning things and asking questions, then he adopts a policy more aggressive than he ever adopts against a foreign adversary.

It never once crosses his mind to support and assist Quark help the Maquis against the obvious Cardassian bullshit.

39 ships? The only nightmare was for the upper management, who realized they might once again have to prioritize the capability of its soldier over blind loyalty, and have to build warships that are for something other than intimidating locals and whining and dining power.

39 ships for starfleet was pissing in a bucket. They lose more than that to random anomaly bullshit every few years.


49da36 (4) No.12365

>>12363

Alright, that's much better.

I'll need to watch further into DS9 than I've currently gotten (season five was where I looked last, I think) before I can properly contest the rest of that, if I'm being honest. Though I find it interesting how the word "Duty" never once came up in your interpretation of things so far, despite it being a central part of many Star Trek mains' characterization.

I'll still stick you on Wolf 359, however. I distinctly remember multiple references to how it badly damaged Starfleet, and how they had to put considerable effort into rebuilding from it. Don't remember whether it was stated or not, but it may have even contributed to ending the Cardassian war.

Seriously, man, I wasn't trying to pick a fight or insult your intelligence. I questioned your terms, and seemingly overplaying how strong the Federation was (and questioning how canon something silly out of Voyager was). Though I admit, I might've misread a sentence or two in your original post. Ironically, the only thing we agreed on.

I wonder how badly the Dominion War would be mucked up in the present.


a3c2c8 (1) No.12395>>12400

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>>12294

>>12327

>>12349

>>12363

Your spacing makes your posts annoying to read so I'm not gonna read them.


1224b2 (1) No.12400>>12404 >>13039

>>12395

It's referred to as "Reddit spacing".


93ab67 (1) No.12404>>12673 >>13039

>>12400

Going to call it Bajoran spacing/


1a7b96 (1) No.12673

>>12404

I don't see brown shit all over it?


5e7104 (1) No.13035>>13050

>>5168

Top kek


897070 (10) No.13039>>13042

>>12404

>>12400

Except it isn't, and you know it isn't.


5efb46 (1) No.13042>>13098 >>13099

>>13039

It is. Its a typical fingerprint for reddit cucks like you, like furries and their insane fetishes.

Why don't you just fuckoff back to reddit instead of continuing to embarrass your self here?


612d72 (1) No.13050

>>13035

>Top kek

TOP STREK


897070 (10) No.13098

>>13042

You don't seem to know what Reddit spacing is, and just throw it out there hoping it sticks.

THIS is Reddit spacing

>>12363

>By committing genocide. Against Federation species.

>He's a bootlicker who is wedded to defending the institutions of power.

>And holds no other real morals.

>Janeway is more idealistic and wedded to the supposed ideals that the Federation stands for than he is.

>To the point of it being a major flaw in her character, thats how idealistic she is, how much she actually beleives.

> Sisko cares about the structure, the bureaucracy, the authority, far more than he ever cared about the ideals or the people that are supposed to hold them.

>He doesn't give a damn about Federation ideals, and only cares about its people.

>Until they start questioning things and asking questions.

>Then he adopts a policy more aggressive than he ever adopts against a foreign adversary.

>It never once crosses his mind to support and assist Quark help the Maquis against the obvious Cardassian bullshit.

>39 ships?

>The only nightmare was for the upper management.

>Who realized they might once again have to prioritize the capability of its soldier over blind loyalty.

>Have to build warships that are for something other than intimidating locals and whining and dining power.

>39 ships for starfleet was pissing in a bucket.

>They lose more than that to random anomaly bullshit every few years.


897070 (10) No.13099>>19829

>>13042

And THIS is what you are apparently demanding

>>12363

>>No, he was willing to drive them off. By committing genocide. Against Federation species. He's a bootlicker who is wedded to defending the institutions of power, and holds no other real morals. Janeway is more idealistic and wedded to the supposed ideals that the Federation stands for than he is, to the point of it being a major flaw in her character, thats how idealistic she is, how much she actually beleives. Sisko cares about the structure, the bureaucracy, the authority, far more than he ever cared about the ideals or the people that are supposed to hold them. He doesn't give a damn about Federation ideals, and only cares about its people until they start questioning things and asking questions, then he adopts a policy more aggressive than he ever adopts against a foreign adversary. It never once crosses his mind to support and assist Quark help the Maquis against the obvious Cardassian bullshit. 39 ships? The only nightmare was for the upper management, who realized they might once again have to prioritize the capability of its soldier over blind loyalty, and have to build warships that are for something other than intimidating locals and whining and dining power. 39 ships for starfleet was pissing in a bucket. They lose more than that to random anomaly bullshit every few years

A solid block of unreadbale text.

You stupid motherfuckers need to try a new tactic.


649424 (1) No.13198

This thread needs a Vulcan.


fe5c29 (1) No.16444

>>12272

Imagine him seeing what Starfleet turned into after the Federation.


b0fe0e (1) No.16459>>16462 >>16508

>>3423 (OP)

I wish Admiral Ross didn't have a broom stuck in his ass. His acting was really wooden compared to the other actors.

>>3433

Forrest was a good lad.


ec6271 (1) No.16462

>>16459

That's because he was usually in a room full of hotheads like Sisko. In other scenes he's actually fairly good to watch as a level headed sort of guy who sees the big picture.


49fce4 (1) No.16508

>>16459

Some people are just really wooden. A lot of military people are like that.


e75000 (1) No.18212

Porthos was the best Admiral.


b92dca (1) No.19640>>19647 >>19649

Why do we not see Romulan Admirals, or Klingons for that matter? Only Admirals we see in the show from other races are Cardassian Legates.


70d69c (2) No.19647>>19649

>>19640

>Why do we not see Romulan Admirals

Mendak, Valdore, and Jarok.

>or Klingon[ admiral]s for that matter?

Admiral Krell.

You should watch the shows sometime.


485a2b (1) No.19649>>19657

>>19640

>>19647

I was under the impression that the Klingon top rank was General and not Admiral. At least, that's how it seems every time we see a Klingon flag officer besides Krell.


429c22 (1) No.19654

Says something about the mindset of the people who write Star Trek. Even in their own personal utopia they need to include anti authoritarian themes. The Federation is the perfect society, but we still have to kick back against it's power structure, because we're obsessed with being the underdog, even when we're in control.


70d69c (2) No.19657

>>19649

Don't reply to me flagfaggot. Filtered.


f3cae8 (1) No.19827

>>3619

Visually more of a morn. That's be a a good makeapp pic


16f6e2 (1) No.19829>>19840

>>13099

No, what you're supposed to

do is use single-spaces like this, just like

nobody has ever done on the internet ever, except for

morons who got trolled by the

"reddit spacing" meme.

Also reddit mostly writes in giant rambling blogpost paragraphs anyhow.


5d836e (1) No.19840

>>19829

Reddit spacing along with giant walls of text are clear indication that someone does not know how grammar works and lacks the knowledge on how to make their posts readable.

Generally you use one line to communicate your point, taking a new line for a new idea and only having a space if it's for a new section that's not related to the points you have been already talking about.

Anyway back to topic of Admirals, most come across as pencil pushers and yes men who have not been behind the command chair in decades and are in a comfortable position awaiting retirement. Just like real life.




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