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09a657 (14) No.18049>>18077 >>18112 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

Trek fans often argue about who the best captain, or best ship in the series are, but why is no attention ever given to the first officer? Number One is the guy who makes everything happen.

If I had to choose between Spock, Riker, Kira, Chakotay, T'pol, Burnham we all know that Mikey is the worst for obvious reasons, but for the best I would of course choose

Saul Tigh

9f84a0 (1) No.18077>>18078 >>18084 >>18086 >>18121

>>18049 (OP)

It's Riker.

/thread


46fd76 (1) No.18078

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>18077

He sure knew how to keep an eye on those bilateral kelilactrals.


09a657 (14) No.18084>>18121

>>18077

>Riker

>cuked arse likes to act like a captain but too much a pussy to officially take on the role


bff825 (1) No.18086>>18103 >>18121 >>18960

>>18077

I want to agree with Riker. but I suspect that was mostly due to picards leadership. Just look at what a whiny bitch Riker became the second he was put onder the command of a real captain, like Jellico.

Personally I'd have to say Spock, no competition.


67c1a7 (1) No.18088>>18091 >>18121

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pic related


a9cc21 (1) No.18089>>18106 >>18121

on his own, i think spock was the most competent

riker was alright, but he looks better compared to chakotay because picard isn't a psycopath


2eeb54 (1) No.18091

>>18088

I'm going with the Hitler dubs on this one, sorry beard guy.


1c4c8d (5) No.18093>>18097 >>18107

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Emergency Command Hologram, every day of the week.


72953e (1) No.18097

>>18093

Seconded! All in favor? Motion carries.


9b8930 (1) No.18103>>18958

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>>18086

Riker and Picard had good on screen chemistry, which made them both seem more competent, even if Riker never really did much and Picard spent too much time waxing poetic about the grand philosophical purpose of exploring space.


09a657 (14) No.18106>>18121 >>21399

>>18089

>on his own

Did you see The Galileo Seven?

A very autist friend of mine was a military officer, I always assumed the enlisted he gave orders to despised him like similarly.


09a657 (14) No.18107>>18138

>>18093

>“Of course not. The photonic cannon is impervious to sensors.”

Kirk was first to bluff with fake weaponry, just sayin.


328aa4 (1) No.18108

Kira, of course. She's what every Bajoran woman should be.


093046 (1) No.18112

>>18049 (OP)

>Burnham

Who?

STD is always disqualified


1c4c8d (5) No.18117>>18118 >>18119 >>18120 >>18127 >>18899

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Honestly as a character, I like Saru.


11e1c3 (1) No.18118>>18163

>>18117

>talking livestock

Why?


0d8810 (1) No.18119>>21388

>>18117

Ever see the Hellboy movies?

He's just straight up recycled from them


09a657 (14) No.18120>>18123 >>18130

>>18117

I don't like him, but he has some interesting moments and development. I liked seeing him literally looking up how to be a good captain, I wonder if it's a role they will allow him to explore and develop or just yank the rug out from beneath Saru and put another woman in his place as captain.

The Mirror universe scene where alt-Georgiou and Burnham ate a Kelpian was weird. The Kingons also ate Georgiou. STD seems to like cannibalism.


723b72 (1) No.18121>>18128 >>18958 >>21390

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>>18077 (acknowledge)

these dubs don't lie. It's objectively Riker.

>>18084

>>18086

>Riker was a pussy who couldn't handle the big chair and was only good because of Picard

Riker had depression. It's debatable as to why that was, but its onset corresponded to the weight gain, beard growth, and Troi no longer calling him "Bill".

>Who is Bill Riker?

He's the Captain that Will never became (Insurrection is not canon). After Picard retires, Riker takes early retirement and fucks off to Risa or Key West to chase young pussy and drink. Most likely, Riker's flaw is that he identifies with his own charm and likeability too much and can't see himself being aloof in the way Picard and Kirk can be. The truth is, it would be difficult at first, but like all Captains he would rely on his First Officer to compensate for his shortcomings. That person would be the "bad cop" to Riker's "good cop" and Riker would have become a very laid-back and unassuming Captain with a series of very edgy and hard ass young First Officers. It's a shame he didn't figure this out when he met Cmdr Shelby. She would have been great as his XO assuming he didn't try to fuck her. All those portrayals as Riker as a hard ass Captain or Admiral and Data being his First Officer are dumb. Unless its wartime and Starfleet is desperate, that isn't plausible.

The Jellico thing would have most likely have worked itself out once everyone realized where they fit according to Jellico's deficiencies (which is normal). It would be harder than normal and may have spurred Riker into early retirement or dealing with his issues, but it wasn't indicative of a problem. Riker just lacked clear insight into his own situation because of his depression and he got himself into a comfortable, complacent situation. The true fault lies with Troi and to a lesser extent Picard letting them work together despite their relationship. Troi was counselor. She could have told Riker what he needed to hear but she didn't because of her compromised judgement she's a female and they're fundamentally incapable of functioning competently without direct supervision when their feelings get involved. She enabled and prolonged his depression instead of spurring him to conquer it. Picard to a lesser extent as well, but in reality organizations are full of people who make good 1st officers but shitty top dogs and that's why they persist - because the work still gets done. It's good for the ship, but arguably bad for the organization though because you end-up with someone taking a slot that could be filled by a future Captain.

>>18088 (hailed)

trick dubs. Data is potentially the First Officer eternally out-number one-ing all others, but only after he masters his autism. That alone unlocks his true power level vis-a-vis working with people. If he is able to quickly and with utter precision and perfection conform to and complement the style and temperament of his Captain, he becomes the greatest of all first officers. We don't see that in Future Imperfect because it was fake and it was supposed to not feel right.

>>18089

>Spock

like Data, Spock required seasoning for command. In the meantime, he's annoying everyone underneath. He got lucky with Kirk because Kirk can solo a starship, gives no fucks, and needs no one. Despite that, he annoyed Kirk routinely. Spock mellowed-out and acquired wisdom regarding humanity later on (because he was half human and needed to reconcile with this). This maturing would have made him a great Captain but we never see it because the actor who played Spock was too old and ironically the only character who benefited from TNG's retarded 75-year time jump. He wasn't a great first officer, though, overall.

>>18106

this faggot gets it


09a657 (14) No.18122>>18129

Thomas Riker is best Riker.


e8ff7d (1) No.18123

>>18120

>The Kingons also ate Georgiou

The Klingons also ate their dead if I recall. Just another way for STD to fuck up established lore.


bd98a0 (1) No.18127>>18163 >>18899 >>21776

>>18117

>Saru (to Burnham): "You lied to me, my people existed in the MU"

>Saru's next line: "You did a great job Michael, no one could have done what you did on the Terran ship".

Saru, the chicken who was cucked to death.

He could've been a great character if he had a pair of balls.


09a657 (14) No.18128

>>18121

>If the crew doesn't hate the XO, he's not doin his job


1c4c8d (5) No.18129

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>>18122

T Riker did nothing wrong the Defiant belonged in Maquis hands.


1c4c8d (5) No.18130>>18132

>>18120

>The Mirror universe scene where alt-Georgiou and Burnham ate a Kelpian was weird.

Anon, that is meant to be Saru

I agree on the char stuff, earlier on he was better, he seems a bit cucked atm but I have hope.


09a657 (14) No.18132>>18133

>>18130

I couldn't tell, they all look alike to me.


1c4c8d (5) No.18133>>18137

>>18132

She picks a Kelpian in the throne room that is literally him (he does the click thing and it is the right facial shape) and then she eats one later: she was just picking the lobster.


09a657 (14) No.18137

>>18133

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Saru_(mirror)

It wasn't him otherwise it would say Status: dinner (2250s)


623bb3 (1) No.18138>>18141 >>18159

>>18107

When you consider said weapons were euphemism for his benis he wasn't bluffing.


09a657 (14) No.18141>>18159

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>>18138

What can I say, not being made of photons has its advantages.


57da73 (1) No.18159>>18161

>>18138

>>18141

If the ECH had a holographic emitter large enough, he could make himself possess a penis the size of a fucking starship, and literally cock-slap the Borg right out of the sky.

I'd like to see Kirk do that.


529328 (1) No.18161>>18178

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>>18159

>Hasn't read Shatner's books

How little you know…


fc897b (1) No.18163>>18164

>>18118

>>18127

I wonder how much protein is in kelpian meat. Maybe they are the secret to the swoleverse's mad gains.


09a657 (14) No.18164

>>18163

Kelpian ganglia are like a Power Bar combined with a Cliff Bar. I always eat a couple before getting in my reps.


9ca9b9 (1) No.18178

>>18161

>Knife is a symbol for benis

>His benis tore through the Earth


f324da (1) No.18899

>>18117

After watching STD Saru was the only interesting character I liked who deserved a fuckload more character development. But he had a major flaw and that is explained in >>18127 Tone shifts cause of pandering to the Mary Sue fucked him up.


e15916 (1) No.18958>>19021

>>18103

>>18121

>these dubs don't lie. It's objectively Riker.

"Picard gets kidnapped, Enterprise is in grave peril until he rescues himself in the last five minutes and saves the day" was such a stock plot on TNG that it made Riker look absolutely useless. How many times did he get the chair and do even a halfway decent job, without Picard having to fix everything? In "The Chase" Riker even manages to get himself kidnapped, and Picard saves BOTH of them. "Second Chances" had it right, he was an underachieving dud. He also banged a tranny, and he probably raped that guy's wife in "A Matter of Perspective".


f2a0e4 (1) No.18960

>>18086

Best of Both Worlds was Riker’s arc where he was ready to take command. The character should have left to command a star ship at that point, but nobody wanted Jonathan Frakes to leave the show.


b4da1a (1) No.19021

>>18958

never outshine your boss, anon.


e496d6 (1) No.19047

The only competent first officer has been ___


09a657 (14) No.21388

>>18119

Hellboy is a demon, he wasn't prey.


659b1c (4) No.21390

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>>18121

>Riker had depression. It's debatable as to why that was,

He never got over the loss of his true waifu.


3d340c (4) No.21399>>21409

>>18106

That episode spooked me the fuck out first time I saw it.

Also riker will always be my numbah one


f58ca5 (1) No.21408

If it were me personally I would choose Kira.

>literal terrorist from the mountains of the war-torn tora bora region of afghanistan

>qt

>can be your attack dog

>can do everything pretty well


659b1c (4) No.21409>>21431

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>>21399

>my numbah one

Shota Picard's voice is now in your minds.


3d340c (4) No.21431>>21434

>>21409

He's my numbah one dad!


659b1c (4) No.21434>>21439


3d340c (4) No.21439>>21460

>>21434

I just watched "Rascals" the other day and lost telemetry signals from my sides when shota Picard dropped that line.

I guess it didn't translate well out of context


659b1c (4) No.21460>>21623

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>>21439

I probably should re-watch it again but the rogue ferengi does have a point. Bringing your family and kids on a federation starship, that's kinda fucked up. I mean yes I get it, The Enterprise-D was a multi purpose ship and one of those purpose was to serve as a luxury space cruise ship designed to show potential member planets the amenities of federation membership, some of earth's culture etc. Enterprise-D does seem to have duties that includes First contact meet and greet, Always Be Closing type of floating showroom and office type of space business.

But bringing yo kids into space where there's borgs and sheeeit? That look sums it all up at 1:52-1:53.


3d340c (4) No.21462

Yeah. I hear you on that. Maybe if they are old enough to handle a phaser. On the other hand if the ship gets blown up you dont have to worry about the wife and kids making due without you as you will all be turned into space dust together. A family of mutilated corpses floating hopefully in vaguely the same direction through space.


cbf5b2 (1) No.21623

>>21460

Ferengi were far more logical than Vulcans. even goes so far on DS9 calling the Feds out on their shit and even Vulcans


01e889 (1) No.21683>>21754

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nurse chapel


1c3fc7 (1) No.21754>>21770

>>21683

I'd give her a number one.


b0b0fa (1) No.21770>>21772

>>21754

y..you'd pee on her?


425f11 (1) No.21772

>>21770

You wouldn't?


09a657 (14) No.21776

>>18127

>He could've been a great character if he had a pair of balls.

He wouldn't be Saru if he had balls


86590d (1) No.21780>>21785 >>21795

not ON her,

in her butt


09a657 (14) No.21785


b66042 (1) No.21795>>21913

>>21780

That's on my bucket list.


1d7aac (1) No.21913

>>21795

All over Odo's Bucket?




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