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Use this for cross-dimension shitposting https://nerv.8ch.net/trek/trekgenrl/1701/strek/streak/startrek/furtrek

File: 1ba3bfdd204a948⋯.jpg (150.13 KB, 648x441, 72:49, mapab.jpg)

c87b35 No.1536

So I got thinking about the various Star Trek maps out there especially of the Alpha Quadrant and just noticing how conflicting a lot of them are along with how wrong most of them appear. In particular I get triggered by the fact that none of the commonly accepted maps out there for example do not have the Cardassians sharing a border with the Romulans when they should have, especially considering Romulans were meant to be neighbors of that race and during the Dominion War they would cross Romulan space to strike at Federation targets across the Neutral Zone.

Which made me question how should a Star Trek map appear? What would it look like? It would need to account for a lot of information with a few essentials but there is also plenty of information left up in the air.

Information that's noted as canon and must be included:

>Federation share a border with the Klingons, Romulans, and Cardassians,

>Klingons share a border with the Federation and Romulans

>Romulans share a border with the Federation, Klingons and Cardassians

>Cardassians share a border with the Federation and Romulans

>Bajor is near the Federation-Cardassian border

>Organia is between the Federation-Klingon border

Non-canon information often taken as canon:

>Gorn share a border with the Romulans

>Tholians share a border with the Romulans, Federation and Klingons.

Information hinted at but not confirmed:

>Benzar is near the Romulan-Cardassian border in Federation space

>Breen are within easy striking distance of Earth

>Klingons have a secure way to Cardassian space that is not through Federation territory

>Klingons have a way to Breen Space

>Ferenginar is not too far away from Bajor

>Betazed is near the Cardassian border

>Khitomer is near the Klingon-Romulan border

>Nimbus 3 is located in the neutral zone, either Klingon or Romulan.

Can you anons think of any information to add that would aid in creating a map? I know there are dozens of other races that are canon that have yet to be included for example; the Talarians, Tamarians, Tzenkethi, Xindi and so on.

Considering the information that also needs to be processed I am not sure a 2D map will do, it may have to be 3D if it gets very complicated.

ee975a No.1547

File: 9c508c244913b05⋯.jpg (65.83 KB, 634x342, 317:171, article-2562329-1B9D6BAD00….jpg)

I thi k that simply due to the nature of space it would have to be 3d.


80b4ba No.1549

>>1547

that's possible but it's never been hinted at as far as i can tell


877933 No.1551

>>1536

Since the universe is practically flat a 2D map will be a good approximation of reality, however the canon will be confusing in the making of maps in ST


877933 No.1555

>>1536

also the romulan/cardassian border part in the Dominion war is easily explained due to the occupation of Betazed, and with the occupation and extra occupied space their borders could easily be next to each other


71ab66 No.1558

>>1555

Dominion were crossing the border pre-Betazed occupation and it was heavily hinted at throughout the show that the Cardassians had a lot of contact with Romulans.


160166 No.1717

Wasn't there an official 3D Star Trek map or at least part of a map shown at one point in a show that showed Federation territory? I think if I recall correctly it had the Federation roughly on the bottom with Romulans and Klingons on top of them and to one side.


d49c55 No.2837

>3D map

Any programs you could use for free to get started on this?


c026b7 No.2839

File: b926b80fc490a50⋯.jpg (1.68 MB, 4486x2596, 2243:1298, startrek starchart.jpg)

>>2837

The level of autism in the Trek community is off the charts. 3D map sounds interesting though.


177367 No.2845

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File: bfd525985c0420b⋯.gif (820 KB, 357x256, 357:256, startrek data pipe.gif)

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File: 0301fcfdb2fb38b⋯.jpg (3.7 MB, 2773x3544, 2773:3544, startrek some fat hack who….jpg)

>>2839

>The level of autism in the Trek community is off the charts.

It's hard not to love a place where those with the inability to understand human behavior are welcomed with open arms instead of scorn.


d49c55 No.2850

File: f4a603968b98839⋯.jpg (262.53 KB, 840x637, 120:91, 1796828.jpg)

>>2839

>>2845

I thought that was /pol/? :^)


0e3e61 No.2878

>>1536

Why are there two DS3's?


177367 No.2881

File: 2643f2b3ec8b01b⋯.jpg (31.04 KB, 419x261, 419:261, kidwhynotboth.jpg)


f77159 No.2886

>>2839

>>2878

The people who make these maps aren't true autists. Which is why literally every map is contradictory and wrong according to lore.


c026b7 No.2888

>>2886

>Which is why literally every map is contradictory and wrong according to lore

The truth is whatever we make it.

That's what we're all here for right? To rewrite star trek for normalfags


f77159 No.2889

>>2888

No brother, we are here to start the fire! and to actually show the normalfags the truth


9cbd42 No.2938

I actually did a dig around for 3D Map software for creating your own galaxy. Turns out there is actually a fair bit aimed towards RPG players. Problem is nothing is really free so not that useful to your average poorfag anon.


904d33 No.2945

File: 677dc4d6a2c87e7⋯.png (72.75 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, test.png)

>>2938

astrosynthesis seems to work, even has political affiliations and shit

magnet link: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:98234914ed85f2d9c3a537c7786bccd2c5b94cf2&dn=Sci-Fi+RPG+Star+System+Tool+-+AstroSynthesis+2.01b+Regged+Instal&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fzer0day.ch%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969

if anyone has the autism to do it, be my guest


eb756f No.5819

>>2945

I might give it a go when I am feeling particularly autistic.


1abce5 No.7303

File: df7bbec0539d496⋯.png (182.52 KB, 1000x750, 4:3, star-trek_stellar-cartogra….png)

This is what a /strek/ galaxy map should look similar to. Needs to be 3D rather than 2D otherwise nothing makes sense.


f8982e No.7321

>>7303

but your map is 3d, look closer


3f9fe1 No.7326

>>7321

Perhaps you should read that post again instead.


f8982e No.7327

>>7326

still, its isometric

But yeah i fucked up


39dc8d No.7329

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>7303

A 3D map may make some sense on a micro scale, but at macro representation, the galaxy appears mostly flat.

>"The Milky Way is a flat disk roughly 100,000 light years across and a few thousand light years thick (depending on how you measure it). It has the same proportion as a stack of four DVDs"


535187 No.11719

File: 2bfc384876571b0⋯.png (975.81 KB, 1024x683, 1024:683, alpha_and_beta_quadrant_ma….png)

wew


cdc44b No.11724

>>2839

>Federation encircles both the Klingon and Romulan Empires

The hell?

>>2888

Making a better map for our own amusement and autistic demand for consistency, more like. We have folk over in /tg/ who want to do the same for 40K. Throne save us.


535187 No.11725

>>11724

>>Federation encircles both the Klingon and Romulan Empires

I'd take most maps with a grain of salt as there are far too many inconsistencies with lore. Though if consider true it is pretty hilarious.

>THE ROMULAN EMPIRE WANTS WAR!

>LOOK HOW CLOSE THEIR EMPIRE IS TO OUR BASES!


cdc44b No.11736

>>11725

Hah. Also leads me to think that a civil war is in the Federation's future, between the distant periphery and the besotted core.


535187 No.11738

>>11736

Well as soon as the Maquis became a thing the Federation have no choice but to face a civil war in their future. Even after their colonies got wiped out do you think the families and friends of the people who were literally betrayed and then left to die by the Federation will forget?

A collapsed Federation was funny enough also the idea for a proposed Star Trek series

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Federation

Be warned, this page is full of memes.


cdc44b No.11745

>>11738

>McQuarrie and Singer were to write and direct the pilot, with Burnett to produce alongside Singer's Bad Hat Harry Productions, similar to Singer's arrangement on House. The proposal was completed in 2006 and sent to Singer (who was in post-production on Superman Returns).(citation needed • edit) Noted Thorne, "Everyone seemed very happy with the pitch and were about to present it." (The Fifty-Year Mission: The Next 25 Years, p. 751) While the document was being refined for a pitch later in the year, in April Paramount announced development of Star Trek with J.J. Abrams, and the proposal was never given to the studio.(citation needed • edit)

>While the document was being refined for a pitch later in the year, in April Paramount announced development of Star Trek with J.J. Abrams, and the proposal was never given to the studio.(citation needed • edit)

>J.J. Abrams

AAAAAAAAAAAAARGH


2dd14c No.11749

>>11745

>>11738

The Federation can't collapse, not at least until Daniels era in the 30th or 31st century. Not enough bad blood and history has developed in the Federation for that to happen. The Maquis might cause a minor civil war but that is it. Who in their right mind wants the Federation to collapse? They give people free energy and replicators. The border dispute with the Cardassians is really a minor thing.


06e81d No.11753

>>1536

If the Klingons have no border with Cardassia, then how did that war happen and why was it even allowed to take place?

the map for Star Trek is easily the worst ball dropped in Sci Fi history.


06e81d No.11754

>>2839

>>2839

The shittiest one, thanks to the dumbassery of the Romulans letting themselves be surrounded. They are supposed to have a wide frontier on the other side of their space from the Federation.


a75952 No.11756

>>1547

The galaxy is flat, m8


535187 No.11757

>>11753

There isn't really a canon one that's the thing and most of the community is too Fed centric i.e. Retarded to actually think about what they are doing.


8e54f9 No.11971

>>11753

They just flew around the federation instead of through it, duh. They travel nine times faster than the speed of light.


0f3672 No.11974

>>11749

>the Federation can't collapse, not at least until Daniels era in the 30th or 31st century

Remember how in ENT, Future Guy was supposed to be Archer? And when Archer's does some risky time travel in Shockwave, Future Guy suddenly stopped returning calls (perhaps because he no longer existed) and the future was also destroyed? "Daniels Fed" is not an inevitable outcome.


184f1f No.11976

>>7329

It doesn't need to be a map of the entire galaxy. Just a relatively small section of it. Crossing all of Federation space is a reasonable trip, crossing the galaxy takes decades.


f237a1 No.16143

If you overlap a lot of these territories inside the Federation lore starts to make sense.


c4b391 No.16523

File: 4241bd71a30082f⋯.png (594.63 KB, 764x643, 764:643, PROCEDURALLY GENERATED NIG….png)

>>11738

>The Ferengi become the dominant power in the galaxy, and make money by spreading the Bajoran religion and making Bajor into a major place of pilgrimage.

WHAT? The Dominion war fucked up the major superpowers in Alpha quadrant, sure, but to ferengi becoming superpower? Really?

>The Cardassian and Klingon societies have evolved into more mystical and less warlike cultures.

Would have been interesing, althought "mystical" could be many meanings.

>J.J. Abrams

NO

This could have been a notably better ST series than STD, IMO, just by looking at the basis of the plot. Too bad that we instead got crap


b020cb No.16648

>>16523

Ferengi have never been in a war. Federation causes one to start every Tuesday.


c4b391 No.16869

File: 54ee02164122d7c⋯.png (127.26 KB, 246x182, 123:91, WUT.png)

>>11719

>Brotherhood of Nod

>That huge Breen confederacy & Tholian Assembly

<BROTHERHOOD OF NOD

Who retard with downs made this abomination?


b3bd9c No.16902

>>16869

Just image search it.


000000 No.17000

I've always assumed the major powers have large gaps of unclaimed space between their territories. The show is really only i860gives vague indication of where they're located relative to each other. Then again, I'm not really aware of any official maps other than of small areas in certain episodes.


b4a35b No.17002

>>17000

>I've always assumed the major powers have large gaps of unclaimed space between their territories

That's basically what the Neutral Zone is, no?


000000 No.17003

>>17002

I guess, but that's a bit more like a buffer zone they agree to stay out of to avoid war more than space no one wants or needs yet.


12318f No.17025

>>7303

What are those ships even?


571e7b No.18171

>reddit chart considered canon by plebs

>Ignore that it was routinely stated that Dominion went through Romulan border to hammer the Feds.


4cc112 No.18896

So after thinking about Star Trek maps, why isn't the Federation completely surrounded? Also considering the distancebetween Earth and the Delphic expanse how badly did ENT fuck canon?




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