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Use this for cross-dimension shitposting https://nerv.8ch.net/trek/trekgenrl/1701/strek/streak/startrek/furtrek

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044ccb (2)  No.14855>>14856 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

Anyone have any insight on this particular uniform "ruffle" aesthetic that was prominent in the Star Trek TOS motion pictures? It also seems to have been a popular style in several other 70's and 80's science fiction movies like Star Wars and The Last Starfighter.

If you look at pics related, you can see the various ridges and ruffles in the uniforms. I think there were many other sci fi movies that used this similar aesthetic for the uniforms.

df22f1 (1)  No.14856>>15180

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>>14855 (OP)

Best as I figure is it takes after flight and space suits aesthetics, ruffles could indicate elastics or insulation.


e05181 (1)  No.14857

Might be worth checking out the two uniform breads already up

>>5757

>>8909


cd8a48 (1)  No.14858

It was an easy (requires little time or thought) way to add detail and sometimes a false sense of purpose to parts of a costume. That's all there is too it.

Same with random little pieces on spacecraft models.


044ccb (2)  No.14908

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Here's a good one from another bread


56161c (2)  No.14998>>15004

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not really "ruffles", more a a kind of vertical ribbing. I'm sure there is a proper term for the it in fashion and/or design but i'm too homophobic to investigate further. Also, there are already several uniform threads in the catalog which this kind of narrow but perhaps interesting and fruitful musing should be indulged.

Having said that, I will now take this opportunity to reiterate that the "natural" uniform of Star Trek is a belted jacket over turtleneck with black slacks and bloused boots. Only the TOS film era uniforms fully realize this form, but all uniforms of every era aspire to it. it's just that every so often some faggot decides its the future and everyone should be wearing pajamas and we get a setback like TNG uniforms or DS9/Voyager or TMP, but soon you see them evolving to be more like the ideal.


5d5ea5 (2)  No.15004>>15005 >>15112 >>15160

>>14998

>Having said that, I will now take this opportunity to reiterate that the "natural" uniform of Star Trek is a belted jacket over turtleneck with black slacks and bloused boots.

Agree, but not entirely.

The TOS movie uniform (the one in the middle of your picture) is great, but is probably /anything/ but comfortable. Especially if you're pulling an 8-hour engineering shift, or sitting at the bridge as conn officer.

I really think that should be the standard dress uniform for formal meetings, with the flap down for when the larger formalities are done. The excursion jacket and vest for when you're beaming down but doesn't require the dress jacket. Flare it up a bit for flag officers, gold rims and whatever.

For on-ship duty? The later grey-black DS9 uniforms as casual/on-ship uniforms for flag officers, and the Voyager/early DS9 uniforms for normal officers.

Type B WoK Medical Uniforms seem to make sense too.

With the TOS pyjamas being a casual/off-duty attire they give out when you're commissioned, or as sleepware. I don't know, call it nostalgia goggles but they've grown on me.


6c4bf3 (1)  No.15005>>15006 >>15117

>>15004

Is it just me, or is 'Mercenary' basically just Han Solo?


ae2c89 (1)  No.15006

>>15005

Well, the Breen are just Leia in her bounty hunter costume.


56161c (2)  No.15112>>15179

>>15004

>The TOS movie uniform (the one in the middle of your picture) is great, but is probably /anything/ but comfortable. Especially if you're pulling an 8-hour engineering shift, or sitting at the bridge as conn officer.

It's interesting that you mention an engineering shift, because the versatility is what I appreciate about the '2285' WOC TOS film uniform nearly as much as the looks. To achieve the perfect balance of comfort and officer's style while giving all she's got, Scotty merely removed his duty jacket and put on a vest. Alternatively, there was the bomber jacket as well and (in my own personal head canon) that turtleneck underneath is possibly not a plain turtleneck but is instead the turtleneck that we see in the TOS pilot The Cage, thus the jacket itself becomes completely optional if you accept that minor tweak.

You could easily swap the 2285 jacket for a belted variant of the later TNG and later DS9 uniforms such as seen in Yesterday's Enterprise and the admirals uniform from later DS9/TNG films, thus achieving a consistent base uniform that spans over a century, with relatively minor and quite natural changes to the jacket over the span. Even the 70's chic TMP uniforms can be accommodated if you change the slacks and wear the shirts over a base undershirt (as Spock does in the film).


1035e4 (1)  No.15117

>>15005

You could say that. But it is a pretty simple design and you could plausibly :^) say it's based on a wild-west gunslinger.


5b9b19 (1)  No.15128>>15173

Is leaving the chest-fly open just a universe-internal officer fashion norm, or is there more explanation behind it?


43822b (1)  No.15160>>21862

>>15004

>We'll never get to see the 2270 suits ever again


f8aefa (1)  No.15173>>21442 >>21490

>>15128

It's a military thing; whenever you wear something with a zipper regs demand the last few inches be left unbuttoned and the flaps creased flat. Spandex pajamas don't appear to have flaps but it's the same idea.

t. Former ROTC cadet


5d5ea5 (2)  No.15179

>>15112

>Scotty merely removed his duty jacket and put on a vest.

Still, doesn't seem to be a nice uniform to crawl in tubes and vents with, or walk around the ship fixing replicators and what-not that broke.

>Alternatively, there was the bomber jacket as well

I tend to disregard that one as a formal-casual cold jacket, not really sure what to make of it considering there's not really bombers flying around anymore.

>and (in my own personal head canon) that turtleneck underneath is possibly not a plain turtleneck but is instead the turtleneck that we see in the TOS pilot The Cage, thus the jacket itself becomes completely optional if you accept that minor tweak.

I like this. Add the jacket and belt for the formal dress uniform. Maybe retain the TOS Mechanical/Engineering suits because crawling around in Jeffrey's Tubes never seemed comfortable in any uniform, except the 2150's Enterprise jumpsuit.


39a617 (1)  No.15180

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>>14856 is propably correct.

On the Silver Globe, a Polish movie made mostly in the 70s, has a people wearing spacesuits that are nothing but such ruffles. I think that in the film it's supposed to be "futuristic" compared to normal space suit undersuits like in >>14856 which people earlier in the film wear.


17ee19 (1)  No.21442

>>15173

Thank you for your service.


a0cf2d (2)  No.21490>>21497

>>15173

>regs demand the last few inches be left unbuttoned and the flaps creased flat.

why?


d0a0ae (1)  No.21497>>21500

>>21490

the military has a shitload of little anal retentive guidelines about appearance that is intended to help reinforce discipline and regimentation in the mind of soldiers.


c6a484 (1)  No.21500

>>21497

More or less this. There were a shitload of autistic little details that had to be followed for the sake of following them


a0cf2d (2)  No.21862

>>15160

>2270 uniform

Thank god it's awful. Looks like a blend of John Travolta's suit from Saturday night fever, and a painting smock for children in an art class.




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