[–]▶ 06e056 (2) No.14842>>14848 >>14864 >>14900 >>14917 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]
There have been individual threads for the Trek movies, but not one for them all. Let's fix that.
What do you think of the TOS/TNG movies? Have you seen the JJmovies and if yes, how do you feel about them? What's your favourite, which ones do you feel are either over- or underrated? What would you have changed? And if you want to, rank them in whichever way you want and prepare to rage over people's taste.
▶ 973705 (1) No.14844>>14849 >>14900
TOS>>>TNG>>>>>>>>Abramshit>>>>>>>>The Motion Picture
▶ f97c86 (3) No.14848
>>14842 (OP)
>What do you think of the TOS/TNG movies?
Great to pretty good to forgettable, but in general they're quite good.
TOS: Wrath of Khan is still GOAT. Undiscovered Country holds up very well, it has it's flaws but in general it's good.
TNG: First Contact is imo probably the best out of the bunch.
JewJew Abraham: Mostly generic and bland, most of Abramshit relies on superficial hype and gloss. Underneath the veneer his stuff is bland, generic, and forgettable 15 minutes after you see them. Which makes him a safe choice for most large (((studios))) and investors.
▶ 6a39ea (1) No.14849>>14861 >>14900
>>14844
>>>>>The Motion Picture
Why do you put it below Abramshit? I don't deny it's a so-so movie; the plot twist is predictable as fuck, the Ilia/Decker romance is contrived and feels tacked-on, and I wouldn't watch it a second time. It's a meh episode of TOS stretched out to film length, which keeps it from being great but also keeps it from being awful. At least it's distinctly star trek though, Abramshit is generic trash propped up by lens flares.
▶ 05baea (5) No.14854
I like all of the TOS movies. Even 5 has a certain campy charm. First Contact was the only TNG movie that really felt on-point. Insurrection was fine, but may as well have been a regular episode. I guess Generations was fun for what it was.
▶ c7b767 (1) No.14861>>14900
>>14849
There is nothing Star Trek about that movie. Do Kirk, McCoy, or Spock matter at all in it? Aside from McCoy asking Spock if they should spank V’ger there’s no character at all in the film.
▶ ea871f (1) No.14864
>>14842 (OP)
>Have you seen the JJmovies and if yes, how do you feel about them?
Saw the first one and found it highly forgettable. It tries to be Trek-like by having alternate timelines and spacey macguffins with the big mysterious red ball of explosions, but ultimately, it's another stupid hollywood movie that's more obsessed with it's own glitz and spectacle, than telling any sort of story.
▶ e026b1 (1) No.14900>>14957
>>14842 (OP)
>how do you feel about the JewJewTrek movies?
They aren't Star Trek. The first was ok as a vapid summer flick thats meant to be mindless fun and never seen again. Like STD, it would have been better served by being a completely original IP instead of "based on Star Trek". Literally the only positive contribution to Star Trek was the idea that starship main view screens are also literal windows, thus having the bridge be an bubble at the top of the saucer make somewhat more practical sense.
>>14844
>>14849
>TMP is the worst
you have no idea where you are, do you?
>Ilia/Decker is contrived
what you mean is, 'this reminds me of Riker and Troi' and you'ld be right. By the time TNG was getting ramped-up, the creative staff involved in Trek was so old and emotionally and creativity drained that they could barely change the names of the characters they were shamelessly recycling.
>I wouldn't watch it a second time
this is sad and inappropriate.
>>14861
>>>/tv/
▶ 765eff (3) No.14905
Crossposting my feelings about Generations from worse-strek.
I always feel I'm alone in the entire universe when I admit that this is my favorite of the franchise. Nobody else seems to get what I mean at all. Like they look at me as if my head is on upside-down or something. It's even more now that I'm an adult, and the flashy action of WoK and FC have lost some of their appeal to me. The death of Kirk was never something upsetting, because the role of the film as a passing-of-the-torch always resonated with me. TNG was the series I grew up with; TOS was my dad's series. Really, it's because of all the films, this is the one that always sticks with me long after it ends. The themes of family, loss, of the inexorability and inevitability of time, of the necessity of "reality", and the varying views of mortality from every character, it's the one movie in the series that I always get a different view the older I get. It helps that Data is my favorite character, and anything Malcolm McDowell does is excellent.
I suppose it is to me that the moment when you truly grow up is when you can let go the fantasy escapism of Soren, "Time is a predator that stalks you all your life," and accept the zen attitude of Picard, "Time is a companion that goes with us on the jouney, reminding us to cherish every moment." When I was a child, I could never understand why anyone could want to leave the perfect world of the Nexus; but I do now. That's powerful. That's what's important to me, and what I feel Star Trek (and science fiction as a whole) really is supposed to be about. It's not just starships and phasers and aliens and action sequences; it's a vehicle through which the supernatural and grand is used to explore the mundane and small. It asks the questions about humanity that beg asking, and leaves you thoughtful about the meaning and the implications. That's why I feel Star Trek is superior to Star Wars; the latter doesn't ask anything of you but to be entertained for a couple hours and then walk away.
WoK and FC are great movies, of course, so I understand why those are often considered the favorites. But they're largely pointless; they offer nothing beyond the script. It's pure entertainment and little more, in my opinion. Generations, though… it affects me like none of the others can. When I was young I never quite understood how Picard could cry so hard over the death of a family member that he barely knew, that had no impact on his life. The loss of his lineage went right over my head; the regret over never having time for a family of his own (and the later fallout of this in his fantasies inside the Nexus) went right over my head. But I GET it now; I understand all that now; I cry along with him because there are little kids in my family now, too.
All the other films, it's like they're stuck in time. The experience of watching them is almost the same every time for me. But in a bit of maudlin poetry, Generations is like that companion that travels with me THROUGH time. Every time I get a little older, a little more mature and worldly, it's different for me. I feel different things, different emotions, and the movie forces them out of me. It's not just me wallowing in nostalgic escapism; it won't let me, because time affects us all and this movie won't let you forget it.
▶ 05baea (5) No.14913
You know, I don't actually have much bad to say about the first JJ Trek. It achieved everything it needed to achieve. Re-introducing us to the TOS crew. Taking the campy, colourful look of the original series, and actually making it work in a modern context, without looking completely ridiculous. It didn't have much in the way of a story, but I think that's okay, since the point of the movie was to establish a universe, and a set of characters.
The problem is that the sequels then failed to go anywhere. We just got the same non-story as an excuse to string together a series of action scenes, two more times.
JJ Trek as a whole is like a TV series where every episode is a pilot episode.
▶ 24137b (3) No.14917>>14935 >>14956 >>18755 >>18869
>>14842 (OP)
Underrated:
Search for Spock
It's not as serious nor as good as WoK but it's by no means a mediocre movie as a few people have said over the years. Naturally the Kirk/David thing is on point, Kirk's balls blowing up his career and his ship to save his friend(s), but you also before that have McCoy try to do all that by himself. It's sort of glossed over in a scene or two but you have him risk getting committed to save Spock as well, and him doing so while not in the best mental shape. You also have, up until now, one of the most in-depth views of Klingon society in Trek. Remember this is before TNG, before all the Duras and Gorwon drama, let alone DS9. Among other things, you have a Klingon commander displaying traits of his culture that line up perfectly with what we would later hear Ezri comment on: the double-faced nature of the Empire, on a micro scale. To his men, he pretends he wants to secure Genesis to prevent it from being used against the Empire…but to trusted aides he wants to use it to become top dog. The "honor" is a front for other goals.
Overrated:
First Contact
It's regarded as the best TNG movie, but I'm not sure it deserves that award. For one thing it doesn't feel like a TNG film. It feels line a TOS film. Picard on TNG was quick on his feet but fairly by the book, especially in comparison to Kirk. In fact he usually caused problems for elements of the Federation that were bending the rules! And after several Borg episodes post-BOBW, he suddenly becomes a berserker against the Borg, enough to disobey a direct order not to participate in a defense against them? To go on screaming fits? And for that matter, the fear that Picard is a double agent seems misplaced when - again - you have multiple TNG stories post-BOBW where he successfully frustrates the Borg's efforts in the Alpha Quadrant. It would have made more sense for there to be an element like Sisko where a flag officer hated Picard for Wolf 359, rather than fear of his loyalty. The casting of the 21st Century Earth actors seems…off. Neither Cromwell nor Woodard give convincing performances, the Cochrane doesn't nail what we see in TOS and Lily is basically a banal "angry black chick" who adds nothing to the film except as someone who helps slow down the narrative. Not that there is much of one since it's basically Riker's goof troop on the ground on one hand, and Die Hard In A Vacuum on the other. And then there's the Borg Queen, who instantly destroys the mystique of the Borg being a distributed consciousness the moment she starts hamming up the screen. Not only does she set a bad precedent that Voyager would ask for seconds of, but it also established the trend for retconning and needless prequel action that Enterprise would later embrace with open arms. This film, in no uncertain terms, is the beginning of the end for classic Star Trek.
▶ f97c86 (3) No.14935>>14942 >>14984 >>15041
>>14917
>but it's by no means a mediocre movie as a few people have said over the years
I agree that it's not at the same level of WoK. But IMO it's far from mediocre, I wonder if the ones who adamantly say it sucks are mostly critics who only watched WoK because "they heard it was good, you don't even need to be a trekkie!" type of hipster and insists Spock should have stayed dead.
First Contact
>It's regarded as the best TNG movie,
>This film, in no uncertain terms, is the beginning of the end for classic Star Trek.
Both statements could simultaneously be true. FC as a movie, succeeded in putting asses in seats and got more people interested in checking out trek. Lore wise, I agree with all the points you bring up, and more. The Steppenwolf song scene worked the first time people saw it, but it really does not age well. Cochcrane and Lily, yeah you pretty much nailed what's bad about it. Borg queen is a new character retcon that honestly brought a lot of new attention to the franchise. But speaking of Lore. As another anon mentioned in another thread, it should have been him who became the Borger King IMO.
So as a movie it did quite well, a trek action blockbuster. For trek lore, it did unfortunately set up a few bad precedent, though whoever was helming Voyager at that time is not free of blame either. Voyager ran back to the safety of TNG elements too frequently.
▶ 765eff (3) No.14942>>14944
>>14935
>Lore becomes King of the Borg
>Tries to tempt Data into the collective by engaging in hot android brothercest
Eh……. I dunno.
▶ f97c86 (3) No.14944>>15059
>>14942
It doesn't need to go to slash fic. Lore can tempt Data using the same skin graft without the fujoshit twincest. Or explore the Cain vs Abel final showdown bout this time we mean it, it's final, last chance to see the galactic grudge match between the Soong brothers! angle. The emotion chip can be the crown jewel on the champion belt.
▶ 91df95 (1) No.14956>>15041
>>14917
>It's regarded as the best TNG movie, but I'm not sure it deserves that award.
I'm sure. But it really doesn't have any competition. The other TNG movies range from forgettable to outright terrible.
▶ 013c84 (1) No.14957>>14970
>>14900
>m-muh great bird
TMP is a ball of shit. Like anything Roddenberry did on his own it’s retarded and pompous.
▶ 38922d (1) No.14970
>>14957
It's the only Star Trek movie I've been willing to watch more than once. They're all terrible, but TMP has the such pleasing aesthetics one does not notice.
▶ 05baea (5) No.14984>>15016
>>14935
I think I'd rather there was no Borg queen/king. Kind of goes against what makes the Borg such interesting villains in the first place. An all consuming collective is such a creepy idea. An insect colony with a queen at the center is less so.
▶ c0295f (3) No.15016
>>14984
>I think I'd rather there was no Borg queen/king. Kind of goes against what makes the Borg such interesting villains in the first place. An all consuming collective is such a creepy idea. An insect colony with a queen at the center is less so.
Conceptually, yeah the Borg collective hivemind is a much more terrifying and what makes them very alien to most people's understanding. For the purposes of getting butts in seats and tickets sales for an action blocbuster however, I can see why they retconned a leader for the Borg.
▶ 05baea (5) No.15034>>15039 >>15041 >>18756
So no one's going to try to defend Nemesis, huh?
▶ c0295f (3) No.15039>>15129
Hooktube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>15034
>Nemesis
The screentest was interesting.
▶ 24137b (3) No.15041>>15115 >>18797
>>14935
>Steppenwolf song scene worked the first time people saw it, but it really does not age well
I'm a little older so I saw it in theaters, and was a much bigger Trek fan back then than I am now (although I am posting here so take that with a grain of salt). When that poppped on I had a knot inside my stomach. It felt so out of place in a Trek…anything. You didn't even have much in the way of licensed music in the fourth film, something like that was foreign and wrong.
Also they did it again in Insurrection, although I recall the song was a little more archaic, but it was still awful and felt forced. Like a lot of the TNG films' content during their run-times.
>speaking of Lore. As another anon mentioned in another thread, it should have been him who became the Borger King
That would have worked better, it would have given a face to the threat that the writers and producers wanted, would have been lore friendlier…also think about the visual of a pissed off Lore attacking Data and Picard with all his glued on skin melted off. Of course thanks to earlier TNG developments, asking for this would have been impossible at that point but it could have been developed into something nice otherwise.
>>14956
I personally can't stand it myself. In fact, out of all the TNG films I can't find one that I would voluntarily watch at any time. I would be quite happy to, maybe with some reservations depending on how much time I had and which film was being lined up, watch any of the first six films. The other four, no. It's might be memorable, but its in the way a paparazzi-pounced-on car crash is.
>>15034
It has the Big Guy and there's no singing segment? Seriously though the film is just amateurish; I keep remembering that deep synth bass pulse in the soundtrack, it's one of the goofiest things, like you had some 8 year old bang on a Korg and then they mixed in some of the toddler's jam session material carefully into the background later on because they couldn't afford a real composer. It's really hard to know where to begin with that one.
▶ b2aafe (1) No.15049>>15064 >>15081
Motion Picture is still the best and the only film in the entire swath of garbage that actually feels like Star Trek.
▶ 765eff (3) No.15059
>>14944
>Lore tempts Data best as he can
>Nothing makes him budge, not the promises of power, not the skin implants, not the assurances of true brotherly love
>As a final attempt, he switches on Data's emotion chip
>Data goes ballistic and strangles him so hard his head breaks off, and Data crushes it
>He realizes that he's killed his only brother and bursts into tears
>This is how Picard finds him
I'd watch that.
▶ 83ac5a (1) No.15064>>15129
>>15049
This guy gets it. The rest are trash action-in-space crap with bazinga one-liners written to cater to a mass retard audience.
▶ 06e056 (2) No.15078>>15101 >>15129
My one problem with the whole "Lore as the Big Bad in FC" thing it Brent Spiner in the movies was somewhat unbearable. Now, when he was still being good old stoic, but sweet Data, it was perfectly fine, but the moment he started showing big emotions (think Generations), he became shit. I loved Data, he was my favourite TNG character and is still in my top 3 Trek characters overall, but he was unlikable in the movies because Spiner seemed quite sick of playing him and desperately wanted to mug it up. Now, putting Lore in FC with that in mind, I don't see it working out since all I see is Spiner going way overboard with him. I much prefer the Borg Queen then again I never minded her being a thing since I always thought she was made up by the Borg Collective to lead Picard/Data on and her mostly more calm and manipulative character.
▶ e3f122 (1) No.15081
>>15049
>Motion Picture is still the best and the only film in the entire swath of garbage that actually feels like Star Trek.
What exactly feels Star Trek about it? What matters about the Enterprise going to V’ger?
▶ c0295f (3) No.15101
>>15078
>since I always thought she was made up by the Borg Collective to lead Picard/Data on
There's a good argument that can be made there, especially with how the Borg turned Picard into Locutus etc.
▶ 05baea (5) No.15115>>15139
>>15041
Nemesis does have a straight to video kind of vibe.
▶ 24137b (3) No.15129
>>15039
That screen test seems quite serviceable for what it is. The delivery seems a bit more natural than the final film, and the aesthetic of the testing area gives it sort of a TNG feel that the actual film(s) didn't really have. Goes to show you could have probably had a better film if you had basically anyone else running it.
>>15064
>The rest are trash action-in-space crap with bazinga one-liners written to cater to a mass retard audience
I wouldn't say that…I don't think the first three films have that vibe at all. TMP and TSFS are fairly light on action; in one V'ger plasmas a few ships and places but largely it's a character-driven bottle story outside of the beginning and the effects shots. SFS is obviously not as constricted, but outside the brief smuggler and Grissom encounter…is there a lot of action in it? Mainly 10-15 minutes starting from Enterprise orbiting Genesis to Kirk kicking Chris down into lava, and the 5 minutes it takes for Kirk to steal Enterprise (but even that second one is mostly running around and dialogue, more of a thrill-ride sequence than straight up shooting). The rest of it is for the most part the main cast wandering around ESD upset they are losing Enterprise and a chance to rescue Spock, or Spock and company + chasing Klinks wandering around alien planet sets. That's maybe a third of the film…tops, with any action in it, maybe less? And it doesn't have a mass market feel to it that ToK did, I mean it is something that builds on the previous movies but it there's also a fair amount of TOS related material and lore building that really is more fan-oriented when you think about it.
To be fair, Voyage Home was light on action as well, but that was definitely aimed at the mass market audience with the comedy focus.
>>15078
>I always thought she was made up by the Borg Collective to lead Picard/Data on
Apparently they needed to do that to a single ship in the Delta Quadrant as well. Actually if that were the case it'd make the Borg look even weaker than the job Voyager (taken on it's surface) already did.
▶ 2c41d6 (1) No.15139
>>15115
All the TNG movies feel more like long episodes than like movies to me. The only differences are lighting, photography and an over emphasize on violence.
▶ 0c9912 (1) No.16740
Galaxy Quest is the best Trek movie.
▶ 176006 (1) No.18730>>18736
Does First Contact make more sense if you picture Picard being replaced by Swolecard?
▶ c1d1dd (1) No.18736
>>18730
Not really. Swolecard would have roided through the borg and punctured the warp core himself.
▶ 2a2c32 (2) No.18755
>>14917
> the Cochrane doesn't nail what we see in TOS
And the timeline is fucked up too, since Cochrane was apparently already an old man by the time he got the Warp Drive to work, and then it took a few decades for Ent to happen, and then several more decades later for TOS to come about, so Cochrane would have been pushing 150.
▶ 2a2c32 (2) No.18756>>18759
>>15034
No. The movie would have been better without the clone of Picard. And just focused entirely on the re-emergence of the Romulan Star Empire.
>insert massive fanfiction scenario of Maquis remnants fleeing to the Romulans for protection, along with many, many other Federation dissidents fed up with the bullshit and willfully becoming 2nd class citizens for the privilege of engaging in wrong think, and this being a massive destabilization factor.
▶ bd3139 (1) No.18759
>>18756
It's clearly a Bane Origin Story.
▶ ad9979 (1) No.18797>>18836 >>18838 >>18842
>>15041
>Steppenwolf song scene
>When that popped on I had a knot inside my stomach. It felt so out of place in a Trek…anything
I thought this, too. Then Elon Musk launched a fucking car into solar orbit while playing David Bowie, and I realized the truth. Cochrane was just carrying on a decades-old tradition of playing barely-relevant rock music during the launching of important spacecraft.
▶ 3c86c1 (1) No.18836>>18840 >>18881
>>18797
>Elon Meme
>important spacecraft
A more likely explanation is that when Lorca was listing off random ""historical"" figures in STD 4(?) if someone has the webbum go ahead and post it, he was just listing all of the people that had a bizarre space/tangential rock music fetish.
▶ 30c57e (1) No.18838
>>18797
If you could send music into space, what kind of music would it be, though?
▶ 41401d (1) No.18842
>>18797
>It felt so out of place in a Trek…anything
It's almost as if the movie takes place at a time when the cinematic universe is more like our own and has yet to transition into anything…Trek.
Truly unusual.
▶ 023a12 (1) No.18859>>18872
>>18840
>names two real world examples, and then a fictional sci-fi one
I'm pretty sure there used to be a TV Tropes page for this cliche.
▶ 1f2bbb (7) No.18863>>18881
>>18840
>Elon Musk
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
▶ 2ec187 (4) No.18869>>18886
>>14917
You bring up a lot of good points there. I've always had a soft spot for SFS, I think it has a good mixture of action, aliens, lore, jokes and tension. The bird of prey design was pretty cool, the Klingon language was great, and a lot of other things. It's a nice all-around space opera. No idea why people seemed to dislike it, although I have to admit it suffers from the title which is basically just a spoiler and uncreative. I'm also not sure how I feel about those 15 min of mindmelt action at the end.
About FC, I always thought that Picard suffered from PTSD and is therefore more aggressive, but there are a lot of things wrong in this movie, and you basically get what they were going for when Data says "to hell with our orders". That was some out-of-character cringe, and I believe the movie has a lot of this. You are also completely right about sending Riker, Geordi and Troy down to the planet which gives three main characters nothing to do for the rest of the movie except dealing with an alcoholic. Picard taunting the living shit out of Worf was amazing though. I also have a passionate hate for the Borg Queen, when you think about it, you can easily give the Borg more character if you just let them choose a representative like Seven of Nine, or make them use the Queen's voice instead of their robotic one without actually showing the Queen. There are many aspects of the Borg worthy of exploring, but with the Queen you basically put a lid on the Borg as a concept. Think about it: Voyager was built arround the Borg as the main enemy race, and yet we barely got to discover new aspects of them. Except maybe Unimatrix Zero, which is cool as a concept but horribly written with bad acting (although I believe the scripts of Voyager were deliberately written in a way to make every actor look bad, I can't explain it otherwise). Also, I actually quite like the ENT episode, what's bad about it?
I think my favorite movie is WoK, although I do like TMP as well and I'm glad people in this thread feel similar. It's the aesthetics which felt not only true to Star Trek, but also had quite a Tarkovskian vibe to it, they definitely were influenced by Soviet sci-fi cinema. Even the storyline is something you could easily find in a Soviet sci-fi movie. It suffered from the same issue these movies suffered though, the lack of an actual plot, and a vague resolution. I don't mind the long-winded Enterprise porn and the entering of V'ger, at least they tried something new and artsy there, but of course you will have retards getting annoyed by this. They used beautiful models in the TOS movies, CGI can eat a dick.
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▶ 8b9896 (1) No.18877>>18881
>>18840
>Elon Musk
>Not Von Braun
>Not Oberth
>Not even fucking Goddard
I'm fucking pissed.
I am also angry.
▶ 0818e5 (1) No.18881>>18888
>>18836
>>18840
>>18863
>>18877
>Elon Musk
>Takes credit for other people's work
>Essentially just the (((face))) funding everything
>Somehow important
This makes me rage.
▶ a6d80b (1) No.18886
>>18869
>Enterprise porn and the entering of V'ger, at least they tried something new and artsy there, but of course you will have retards getting annoyed by this
Careful there, you still have some of Gene’s jizz on your chin.
▶ 1f2bbb (7) No.18888>>18890 >>18955 >>18961
>>18881
But you see anon, Elon is one of those nice billionaires that does nice things like give money to charity. Ignore all the workers collapsing in his factory *oink* or the fact he is propped up by NASA funding that was diverted him or the fact literally all he has done is buy things. Braise Elon, Gates and Zuckerberg!
Honestly one of the best quotes I have ever heard was "it is easier to defend the gulags to a liberal than criticise Elon Musk
▶ 1b976f (3) No.18890>>18891 >>18994
>>18888
You don't belong on /pol/strek/, red. You best gtfo.
▶ 986115 (1) No.18891>>18895
▶ 1f2bbb (7) No.18895>>18900
>>18891
The anon is of the cancer generation of the chans: they think they own the place because stormfront shills were widespread enough. They don't remember the time when chans were about just fucking talking about shit rather than pushing their own ideological beliefs. Tbh one of the reasons Strek is pretty good is that it isn't infested with /pol/yp cuntery and you can (most of the time) have a good convo about what the board is fucking about.
▶ 1b976f (3) No.18900>>18901 >>18902 >>18904 >>18995
>>18895
Lol do you even look at the banners? /strek/ is a /pol/ack board. Next you'll start trying to tell us the occuhoax actually happened, or that Gul Dukat did something wrong. Is it your first day?
▶ 1f2bbb (7) No.18901
>>18900
>Do you look at the banners.
Yes anon, I made some of them.
▶ cbc72d (1) No.18902
>>18900
But Dukat did do something wrong he didn't order the complete removal of hasperat
▶ 1f2bbb (7) No.18904
>>18900
Also Gul Dukat was a cuck who almost killed himself through his own idiotic arrogance. He tries to chase Major Kira in vein and got demoted to a cocking cargo hauler: and THEN he only got promoted back up again because he had to get taught in how to actually fight by a Bajoran. Meanwhile Garak is a megachad that is more badass than his mirror universe self: which is not an easy thing to do.
▶ 0b6e66 (1) No.18905
/strek/ for all purposes is essentially /new/
Only oldfags will understand this.
▶ b4b14f (1) No.18955>>18963
▶ 27a5b2 (1) No.18961>>18963 >>19001
>>18888
Go die Jew. This is white spoon territory.
▶ 1f2bbb (7) No.18963>>19001
>>18955
>>18961
Stay mad, I'm not going anywhere.
▶ 2ec187 (4) No.18994
>>18890
I can visually imagine your physical seizure as you have this autistic reaction.
▶ 2ec187 (4) No.18995>>19001 >>19017
>>18900
This is why I hate you, /pol/. not because of your hillbilly beliefs about Jews, your pathological obsession with black dicks and cuckoldry, not for the r/the_donald soyboy memes, or all the other low IQ shit - but for your ruining of imageboard culture. For this, I'll never forgive you.
▶ b8072d (1) No.19017>>19036
>>18995
>poor rural whites are so anti-semitic
I guess if you're so steadfast in your belief that the people you're dealing with don't matter, then it's perfectly fine to believe about them whatever you your peers (((the elites))) calculate will produce a useful political "narrative." You would think you'ld know when you're not amongst your peers and thus consensus-maintaining bullshit is unnecessary. Then again, maybe you're just naive and dumb.
▶ bb909b (1) No.19019>>19037 >>19039
Slow Motion Picture: zzzzzz
Wrath of Kahn: Unfortunately I've seen this way too many times for me to enjoy it anymore. Also when I saw it the first time when I was, like, 4, I threw up during the worm scene. That still colors my opinion of it all.
Search for Spock: zzzzzz
The Voyage Home: Fav film of TOS tbh, yes it plays out more like a filler episode but it has the best gags and some damn cool ambiance in the first 30 mins.
>WOB WOB WOB WOB REEEE WOB RAA WOB WOB WOB WUUUWU-U-U WOB WOB WOB
(inb4 ST4 = birth of dubstep)
Undiscovered Country: It's so hard to watch the movie while trying to see around Shattner's inflated head.
Generations: Honestly not that great, but the premise is p. good and I love the guest stars. Also finally the galaxy is rid of of Lorsa & Betor.
First Contact: Best Trek film ever. Fight me.
Insurrection: First hour is good, second feels like I'm getting my face pulled. This film needed serious work with making the flow of the story better, too many times does the narrative jump around between feels.
Nemesis: Halo CE + Trek != good
Jew-Jew 1: Honestly I like this film. Unfortunately it gave me false hopes that one day my blue-pill friends would start to enjoy some good ol' ST shows.
Jew-Jew 2: Since it's the same story as Kahn (basically) I enjoyed it because it gave the story a face-lift (but not in a bad Insurrection sort of way, ofc). Still, played out far too much like a Marvel film tbh.
Jew-Jew 3: Enjoyed it in theaters, but the more I thought about it the more I came to hate it. Also contains far too much lefty nonsense for me to handle. Waste of money on that ticket.
▶ 2ec187 (4) No.19036
>>19017
I'm not saying these people don't matter, I meant that the belief itself is a ridiculous simplistic attempt at explaining a complex world, its conspriative and tribalistic, which is why it is comparable to the conviction of an uneducated person suffering from social alienation and economic hardship. Besides, we both know you are not a poor rural white. You are a suburban middle-class young adult, and everywhere you go online you always try to subtlety slip in your extremist minority views, which is a turn off for most people. If you think it's the Jews ruining Star Trek for you (despite that it has always had quite a bit of Jewish participation, like every Hollywood production), you are fine to think that, but trying to hammer it down everywhere you go is quite an obnoxious trait. I hope you don't do this IRL anon.
▶ 1f2bbb (7) No.19037
>>19019
>Insurrection: First hour is good, second feels like I'm getting my face pulled.
▶ e81cf1 (1) No.19039
>>19019
>No ST5
Why? It's kino