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>>10228 (OP)

Probably not. That would lead to near instant braindeath, which fucks with the usual starfleet medical science rules that say they can fully revive someone up to 2 minutes after death.

>>10243

doesn't the transporter work off the principle of patterns? If you've been splattered into gnarly chunks, are you not then 'de-patterned' as an intact, living being?

I like the idea of the transporter, but having it work like the replicators is dubious and leaves open a lot of questions.

>>10245

See, this is why I'm with Barclay on transporters.

That shit breaks you down and sends you like a data stream, it is just a people replicator, just look at how one preserved Scotty for 70 odd years. I mean, sure, it's impractical to store many humans because that takes up a fuckton of data and will cause any ship's computer to blow up but just one person, just one good enough person's pattern in the buffer and you've got a Clone Army.

cure? no.

treat, perhaps.

>>10228 (OP)

Could the EMH cure my infatuation with that cute female?

>>10248

If I recall the episode where Sisko, Worf, O'Brien, and Jadzia get trapped in one of Bashirs holosuite novels the patterns 'degrade' pretty quickly, and storing them required all the computer memory on DS:9. It sounds pretty much impossible to store even one person in a stable form for the long term.

>>10338

>If I recall the episode where Sisko, Worf, O'Brien, and Jadzia get trapped in one of Bashirs holosuite novels the patterns 'degrade' pretty quickly, and storing them required all the computer memory on DS:9. It sounds pretty much impossible to store even one person in a stable form for the long term.

They all came back slightly pixelated because they could only squeeze them in with JPEG at 95%

>>10291

that's the easiest cure of all.

>>10291

>nose piercing

It's trash.

>>10228 (OP)

Generally I'd say no, but that's not to say exactly what sort of 30 cal and what sort of brain wound.

A 7.62 na to round squat in the noggin and you are out of luck bit technically I bet a glancing blow along the cranium scooping out only a small amount of brain with a lower energy round say a .32 Remington short, where the main call for alarm would be bleeding out, and long term brain damage I bet he could keep you alive, and maybe even rest or most of your lost mental and physical abilities over time. Assuming he can get you before as mentioned full on brain death sets in.

Well, depending on the type of wound and how quickly you get to treatment, it might be salvageable.

Of course this is assuming they have synthetic brain tissue in addition to their other synthetic tissues.

>>10228 (OP)

That depends, what .30 calibre are we talking about? There are fucking air rifles in .30 after all.

>>11032

>>10228 (OP)

Not that an air rifle won't kill you mind, just that it's not going to be head-explodingly violent.

>>10856

>this is assuming they have synthetic brain tissue in addition to their other synthetic tissues

There was that one guy in DS9 (someone Kira was infatuated with) that had some brain-degenerating condition, and kept having parts of his brain replaced with positronic bits, with the only problem being a Ship of Theseus paradox, as he was less and less of "himself" the more got replaced, and Bashir refused to perform the procedure on the most critical areas.

It seems clear that, so long as it doesn't fuck up anything like memory or personality centers, there a replacements for brain tissue.

>>11058

>that one guy in DS9 (someone Kira was infatuated with)

I love how non-chalantly you say that, as if he wasn't a very important character in the first few seasons. Anyway, that was Vedek Burial.

The only thing the EMH couldn't cure was Voyager.

>>11076

Savage.

>>11033

I guess we shop around different airgun shops. Modern precharged pneumatic air rifles are head explodingly violent. Often more so than pistols of the same caliber.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/phineas-gage-neurosciences-most-famous-patient-11390067/

So this guy a a 43 inch rod shoot through his cheek- up into his brain- and completely out the the top of his head. And he walked to to doctor.

Suffice to say anything can happen.

>>11152

Also that is the truth- maybe he's looking at evike not PA ;)

>>11062

He evidently wasn't important enough if I couldn't even fucking remember his name. History never remembers the losers; that's just how it is.

>Vedek Burial

Well, his character arc sure ended with a burial, didn't it?

Could the EMH cure Ezri's diaperrash?

>>16084

because humans as creators are more merciful than any god(s) that created our miserable existence.

>>16087

How do we know God wasn't just an alien and we're organic, reproducing artificial life?

Perhaps in 20,000 years, there will be a planet that calls one a shitty lab tech that didn't destroy a lab sample a God.

>>16084

Didn't he become a pedo in one episode?

>>16097

Schwaaat?

I dot remember that one.

>>16087

>oy vey how could a just god let the Holocaust happen

*tip*

>>10229

>which fucks with the usual starfleet medical science rules that say they can fully revive someone up to 2 minutes after death.

What? When did they say this, and why?

>>18491

I'm pretty sure it comes up more than once but the one that sticks out to me is the TNG season 1 episode "Code of Honor," where Tasha has to engage a space negress in ritualistic single combat to the death for…reasons, it was a space vaccine or some shit I don't remember. Yar had to win the contest, so as soon as the negress "died" they beamed her body straight to sickbay to do emergency surgery and resuscitate her.

>>18501

The funny thing about this is that "two minutes after death" was based on the medical knowledge of the time, which held that brain death happened pretty much as soon as the oxygen ran out. But now we know that people can be "dead" for longer, and still be revived. Usually they aren't too worse off for it, but often there's some level of brain damage.

What I don't understand is why there aren't more people successfully brought back to life in Trek that aren't left as gibbering retards. Given that they are able to recreate the reptilian parts of the brain with ease, and people can be brought back to life after being dead for several minutes, it would stand to reason that only the higher learning functions of the brain would be the ones they can't "fix". It would make an interesting plot point, but media basically never does this; either someone comes back perfectly the same, or they're completely dead. Reality isn't like that; in reality people come back all the time, but fucked up, either mentally or physically. How come we never got a Captain that took a piece of shrapnel to the head and was brought back to life, but was unable to command properly anymore because he was brain damaged?

>>18799

That first Rabbi that the major started fucking got brain fucked. Cunt basher an entire half of his brain iirc. And could have replaced the other half. But decided to let him die since he only had 1/2 of his humanity left and presumably replac8ng the other half of his brain with a positronic matrix would have made robbed him of his other half.

The major realizing he would be incapable of feelings for her then agrees to pull the plug.

Point is The Basher was pretty confident he could keep the body alive and fully replace his brain.