444d2c No.232722
We all know the 'meme' of being put on a watch list for viewing or saying things online. The US feds and many other governments have had sophisticated intelligence organizations before the advent of the NSA and USA PATRIOT ACT. Many are familiar with the program of COINTELPRO which still goes on to this day, that being infiltration of subversive or revolutionary groups such as the way the Earth Liberation Front was taken down. In the mid-late 20th century during the American civil rights movement, it is widely believed that Fred Hampton was assassinated by the police for genuine organizing. Many people also think the federal government also assisted or organized the assassination of Malcolm X.
It is a dangerous world for freedom of information, journalism, writing about ideology (by the way I am not a marxist nor a leftist of any kind) and it is particularly dangerous for organizing.
Does anyone have any modern examples of suspected state assassinations of organizers or writers? There hasn't been a major subversive group that actually physically organized since the ELF, and of course BLM is doing the work of the system for it and has been coopted since its birth so I'm not talking about that. As far as genuine movements who are actually against the fundamentals of the system, I have in mind Kaczysnkites (although this movement is still in the early stages of organization)
I can think of Bill Cooper and the fellow who made videos about the police outside of his house for weeks who was then 'suicided' in his house and had his house burned.
Anyone else have any examples?
(I do not want to debate any of the ideologies mentioned here, I'd just like to discuss state surveillance, harassment, and assassinations)
____________________________
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
ad66fd No.232723
>>232722
>Does anyone have any modern examples of suspected state assassinations of organizers or writers?
I know there was a journalist who had a car crash that conspiracy types jumped on as suspicious. I believe he was writing or investigating McCrystal or McRaven, one of those generals.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
ad66fd No.232724
>>232723
Michael Hastings was the journalist.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
5186c0 No.232750
Max Spiers, a "conspiracy theorist" was gang-stalked and later died with black liquid oozing out of his mouth. Shortly before his death Max sent a text to his mom
>Your boy's in trouble. If anything happens to me, investigate.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
499533 No.232753
>>232724
There was him, and there was David Crowley who was going to release a damning documentary called "Gray State" (if I recalled that correctly) which was going to expose a lot of governmental corruption with the prison industrial complex, he got killed and no one knows by who.
Regardless, the government has wised up and decided to infiltrate and influence journalism these days, especially on the mainstream corporate networks you see on TV (all of them, left & right wing ones). Those that still are investigative journalists are censored, berated, called "conspiracy theorists" or "boomers" and dismissed or mocked or ridiculed by agents of the State. They found censorship and subversion is a lot easier than having to plan assassinations and pay the pros, plus the fact these assassinations make martyrs out of those brave souls.
Maybe semi-related, but I have noticed holistic doctors and natural-healing based chiropractors being knocked off (outright killed) the last few years, by the dozens. So I know they want to force people into the Big Pharma institutions so they can push their lab-made drugs and vaccines.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
6f3de7 No.232756
>>232753
The sophistication of the media serving the state and manufacturing consent is both astonishing and a bit disheartening (although its best not to actually be disheartened because you'll fall into the learned helplessness they'd like us to have).
Operation Mockingbird has been much more of a success than they could have hoped for. All mainstream media is giddy to serve the state or the ruling private interests. Its not just the mainstream media either, the effect has also infected many 'independent' media who have been so influenced by the information ecosystem.
Right now, there are not many modern serious organizers for actually subversive movements. The only type of movement in which serious organizing could result in assassination would likely be in the 'armed environmentalism' or anti-industrialism. They may like to assassinate serious socialists, but even then it is not certain because it is clear that when considering what goes into it, how its administered, and what comes out of it, planned economies and market economies are essentially the same but with different aesthetics. Aesthetics are seemingly all that matter to people today though. The market economies in the west are heavily planned and administered by the state.
Also I'd like to investigate the deaths of some of these holistic doctors and I'd appreciate if you could give me a lead.
>>232750
>>232724
Thank you for these, I will look into them.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
6f3de7 No.232757
Also I should note that they are basically attempting to kill Julian Assange and I'm sure they would have killed Snowden if they could have or at least imprisoned him for life. It is interesting that they are letting Assange get near the brink of death in prison because if he does die he will be a martyr like you said. These killings would have to be done with a degree of plausible deniability, i.e. letting them die of some 'natural' cause or making it a totally unrelated police incident like they did for Bill Cooper or Fred Hampton. Then again, they may not kill them but just like to keep them from doing any more of their activity, i.e. prison. Even being persecuted by the state makes these men huge martyrs, and that would only intensify in the case of imprisonment or death.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
5186c0 No.232758
>>232756
As censorship increases the public flocks to small independent sources of information. Would be fun to build a propaganda team to take advantage of the coming years.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
6f3de7 No.232777
>>232758
I've been working on this, I have a digital newsletter regarding industrial collapse and have a long background in film. I could produce subversive propaganda. I'm probably already on a watchlist. Actually that might be hyperbole, but I'm sure I'll end up on one if I walk this path far enough. I wish they actually glew in the dark irl
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
6f3de7 No.232778
Anyone here ever read Propaganda by Jacques Ellul?
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
bcdf5a No.232813
Harrison Deal and Michael Hastings come to mind
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
bcdf5a No.232814
Oh and that one antivax activist in santa barbara who basically said: "i will never commit suicide. If i suicide, i was murdered." She died just last year as the pandemic was ramping up.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
4ca038 No.232852
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
dcfe3a No.232856
>>232750
That almost sounds like he was setting up his mom for death too. He should have just been straight up with her at that point. That sounds more like a message from his killer than a message from him.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
10f572 No.232857
>>232856
>That almost sounds like he was setting up his mom for death too.
Maybe she deserves it.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
7530c9 No.232860
>>232757
>It is interesting that they are letting Assange get near the brink of death in prison because
He's being treated WAY better than some of us and other victims.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
0362a1 No.235799
>>232860
I wonder if Trump knew that if he pardoned him ,asange. If they would kill him asap?
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
3739cf No.235832
>What's killed more people?
>a) Communism
>b) Socialism
>c) Capitalism
>d) Abrahamic Religion
e) Government. There are two basic systems on Earth, those who are governed/slaves that can be stolen from, parasitized and murdered on (((governments))) whim and then there is (((the government))).
The first system has absolutely no knowledge of the second free system even exists. Those who (((govern))) have independent finance, independent 'laws' and independent morals. No one in the (((governing))) group has to live by the laws, usury or morals of the slave class. Those who run (((government))) are a bloodline that never ever relinquishes control over their secret operations to someone who is a slave. Basically it is a caste system that is hidden from you but 100% known by them. Why do you think that all of the alt-right, on closer inspection was jewish? Why do you think that they get a free pass for everything under the sun that you would be subject to legal proceedings for? Do you really think (((Epstein))) died or 'killed himself'? When we first possessed the internet we were able to track these people and finally get understanding of who this society of brigands torturers and murderers was which is why the entire internet is controlled and silenced now…also why they are trying to inject your with genocidal poison as well. They have to keep the second system QUIET or you will realize it is a rigged game and you will stop wanting to play it. Government is basically an iron clad cast system of control, abuse and murder that has been controlled for thousands of years.
Just like (((Maxwell))) staged his own death and since he owned the press he 'provided the evidence' for his death to escape the legal proceedings he was going to have to undergo for stealing all of his employees pensions (because he could and there was no one to stop him or to protect you since government is operated by the same people who would 'prosecute him' if there was going to be prosecution which there would never be for a member of the tribe). Do you have any personal proof that any of these people did time or were arrested? It is all a shame shit show to appease you none of it is real. They never face any penalty or do any time for whatever they want to do. Would you bother to send your neighbor to jail because his milked or killed some of his cattle? No, you wouldn't even consider it. In a caste system the people who are the government OWN you the slave/cattle. It is rigged. Totally rigged. DON'T PLAY. You have nothing to gain by pretending that they are or have authority over you or by letting them kill murder and slaughter you and your family.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
0e0e75 No.235836
Watch
"List"
But Watch
⤵️⤵️⤵️
https://youtu.be/Bi-fnYhLooU
⤴️⤴️⤴️
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
3cff40 No.235839
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
168c97 No.235842
My stuff is getting deleted.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
3739cf No.235846
>>235842
Welcome to the club
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
b8cd0f No.235849
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
b8cd0f No.235850
Maybe
Beranton J. Whisenant Jr.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
a467e6 No.248813
Welcome to /pnd/, now under new management!
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
