/pnd/ - Politics, News, Debate

>>218148

>no one is questioning this.

People question it all the time, dumbass

This thread is shit. Reported for low-effort.

I make AI bots. It's quite simple actually. We got here because people decided to normalize the use of Photoshop, then filters on mass, so a computer can generate images of people now that look relatively "normal" because of the overuse of filters and fakeness.

My chat bot works with a simple logical response, which easily predicts everything people can possibly write and gets it right 95% of the time. Combine the two and now you have an almost real person with basically no effect.

The reason why you shouldn't use social media is because it's ~30% bots. People should make their own platform to interact with friends and invite friends to it, otherwise it is a war to get the most retards on your side or to buy a product. Bots are used only because there's 1) a profit incentive and 2) an ideological incentive. Just make your own social media with private invites, and stop using CIA niggerlog.

>>218151

Very good and informative post. Thanks Anon. Do you have anymore insight on AI bots and social media?

>>218152

All I can really say is that there are many communities that work on programming bots. Many corporate sponsored people, many private.

Most big corporations use bots to help their reputation, but it's simple on this scale:

liking/following bots(easy)

reply bots:

(

message spam and leave - easy

key word responders - easy

deep net responders - hard/taxing

)

Most bots have a predetermined response or list of replies that are gathered from web scraping major company websites and sorted through a statistical algorithm.

Most social media companies create bots to keep people on the platform longer by artificially changing the number of friends, subscribers, and viewers. Tik Tok was one company that revealed that their manipulation of viewers and followers is so massive, but more do it for manipulation.

Social media companies hate competing bots on their websites and there's always a tug of war between social media bots and 3rd party bots. Automation today is so sophisticated that I can just program a connection between a web hosted chat bot from another website, steer responses where I want and and beat Google website checks with Google.

>>218159

How cogent are Bots in regards of making discussion points? For example Twitter posts that get screenshotted and shows it having over a thousand likes and retweets. Are those usually bots?

>>218167

Points can be pre-determined.

Likes and retweets can be bots used to manipulate opinion. It doesn't even need to be a third party. Twitter could change the values.

>>218148

>How did we get here?

By not killing all jews and all leftards.

>Why?

Because pacifists are cucks who will get the bullet for not killing all jews and all leftards.

>>218151

That also reflects the fact that the masses are literally mindless drones. Killing the 90% (BUT killing the elites, among those 90%) is a necessity.

Only the thinking white men and their submissive women must be allowed to exist.

Everyone else must (and will) be killed.

>>218148

>no thread content

sage

>>218150

I don't know that they're AI, but there are thousands of accounts who are pushing ridiculous stuff and progressive policies, who any sane person wouldn't dare to agree.

In the case of Twitter, there are accounts who agree everything what zog gov say, and when you see their profile decriptions, it says "computer programming", "enthusiast freelance", "He/Him/She/Her/it/They whatever",

I couldn't imagine that they're humans, but... Human Stupidity is unlimited.

>>218254

This is a false premise. People can train AI to be as racist or "non-racist" as they'd like.

>>218258

>People can train AI to be as racist or "non-racist" as they'd like.

True. But a non-pozzed AI which is programmed to advance humanity will wipe out kikes, niggers and all other subhumans.

>>218260

None of the big corporations are going to let AI be non-pozzed. They have already changed a lot of their filters and introduced all kinds of bullshit. Unless the big corporations are killed, they will kill you.

>>218262

Yeah. And it doesn't seem like there'll be any resistance. I hope a meteor strike takes out the planet before that or some magic virus kills all jews.

>>218266

Don't dread or sit isolated. Learn how to make bots and compete with the companies to destroy them. I'm taking up hacking too. If I can spread 30k+ ideas against lockdowns in a week on one application, any idiot can do it.

btw, for the glow niggers in this thread. When the ruling class is done with the middle class, you the retard supporting this dictatorship will have your head on the chopping block too.

>>218269

So you're fighting fire with fire?

>>218270

Yes. Through unconventional war you fight. Not fighting means you roll over to your oppressors. You fight them the way they don't want it to be used. They use bots for porn, bots for zog worshipping.

Thus I use bots to put out the truth. Only an idiot would waste their time trying to convince one person on social media when they can create a bot army to do it.

You fight, or you're going to be a slave. That's your only two options that they give you. They do not want peace. They want to run the world as a dictatorship, thus you fight them. My bots have done more to convince the world than Terrance ever could by murdering random whos.

>>218272

Are you concerned about the accelerationism it could create by how much opposition it will naturally create or do you have faith it will change NPC's minds about the current narrative they follow

>>218276

Who cares what Zog and Kabballah-bitch Kushner promotes? They have been doing that dumb shit for many centuries trying to use Jewish means to program the public and get kicked out every time. Media has lost its value, most people spend their time on social media and dating apps.

>>218277

>accelerationism it could create

No. Course not. Most young people when having the facts put in their face from actual science studies normally don't refute reality. Normally they say damn and accept it.

The only people who are a hard ass about it are coomers and libtards who bitch and whine about it, and thus I just use reverse psychology aligning them with Trump supporters when they are anti-scientific.

I already looked at many papers/models on how ideas spread. There are some factors but it depends largely on new people and acceptance of said idea. There's always going to be a percentage of whiny retards and zog bots, but their denial of reality will bite them in the ass.

>>218283

I don't care what they promote, I care what they plan. Why would you ignore what they are planning? Your bots aren't going to have your back in a firefight.

>>218285

>Why would you ignore what they are planning

Because it serves no purpose other than propaganda material. You don't know if everything these clowns write is going to come true. They seed certain things they want and do some of them. No reason to waste time on it. You need to be more proactive than reactionary.

For all you know they could be distracting you.

>>218286

The jews are not original anon. They have run the same game every single time, what leads you to believe they will deviate now? If they were capable of creating they wouldn't destroy everything they touch, but that is not ever going to be in the cards for them. They are going to do what they have always done, every single time in any of their planned genocides. If you are going to ignore that, you must not have a will to live. If you don't have the will to live, what are you doing here?

>>218286

>You need to be more proactive than reactionary.

God wow, that's a breath of fresh air.

This sentiment is expressed so little. All people on here seem to do is reeee about others instead of building something.

There needs to be more /sig/ and less of this shit.

>>218288

> They have run the same game every single time, what leads you to believe they will deviate now?

You answered that yourself. They aren't original. Go to the Talmud or the Kabbalah and not movies that Zionist dorks produce. You don't need to watch their movies and go "look what they are planning" when you already know the plan. That's pointless. Unless you are getting proactive to warn the rest of the people in society of the problem, why are you browsing these websites?

People will only look at you like a flat-earther by doing the "look movies are the same" skit and believing everything in it. In North Korea they have posters of how Kim is a God, but that doesn't mean you have to follow it. Maybe they are doing gene editing experiments in the background. You don't know that, so instead of complaining about Kim, you get proactive.

>>218292

lol I actually never saw that movie. Not my thing, but I get your point.

Well, like I said, I think of it more like God's own shit test for who is willing to survive and who is not. I guess the real thing is that we have all gotten very soft in 'civilization'. Civilization allowed those who didn't want to live and those that didn't deserve to live to continue on the planet. Maybe they are engineering a civilization that doesn't reward 'soft' people and kills its weak. That is the way it looks from here. So it is time to harden yourself and survive or not. I am sure they don't care about if you want to die anymore than you would care that some retard SJW is going to jump off a bridge. I think for too long the future has belonged to pussies and I think that is about to end. Kill or be killed. At any rate, you are not going to survive with a bunch of 'awake' normies milling around any more than you are going to struggle to survive while pampering and caring for 25 dumb fucking niggers and their children (basically the kike babysitting program that has happened here for the last 200 years). So, what is it, anon?

What is on your mind and what is in your heart? Do you want to survive? I guess that is what I am trying to figure out in my clumsy manner.

>>218303

> At any rate, you are not going to survive with a bunch of 'awake' normies milling around any more than you are going to struggle to survive

I've already seen scientific models on spreading ideas with relation to many things in economics and the impact of rumors. Revolutions and revolts can happen and have happened in the past within a matter of months from simple collective actions against the ruling class. There is no certainty that will happen, and Jews only make up 2% of the population so they are immediately at a massive disadvantage to begin with.

What will happen is that there's going to be sanctions on people who are against Zionism throughout the world if everyone is simply reactionary expecting it to collapse. If you're always reacting to Zionists with the expectation of collapse, you will have a collapse. Solzhenitsyn told people the only way to stop these people is for a collective action and I've already gone over the papers knowing what the minimum rates are.

I can survive. Other people need to also get involved and take proactive steps to ending ZOG. As long as you're always reactionary, they have control. You need to get active and stop worrying about the worst case scenario.

>>218304

>>218325

>>218321

Give me some of that data anon because have pretty much stopped believing anymore. It seems like a complicit betrayal on my part to cooperate with these (((government terrorists))) any longer...it is not 'they' who are responsible but me who is responsible for being complicit with their terrorism against Western Europeans.

>>218327

>some of that data anon

The general model depends on whether you know how to solve multi-differential equation of state, but I can give some input on how it works as there are a few papers on it.

The model is simply an input/output model which traps and releases people between blocks. The first for the rumor spreader who shares ideas with new people(which in my models I decline over a population as it becomes more difficult for an idea to spread), in that block you have people who accept the true idea(which is ~20% in many cases, but depends largely on the idea), and those who either don't care or reject it(80%). Over time the people who accept the idea come over to the spreaders and they introduce more people as new people are dependent on how many spreaders there are. All of the people in the blocks have a drop off rate too as the idea gets stale.

It's a fairly simple differential model. But from test cases using metric tracking search results, least squares and an output(usually seen by an economic output like a currency), so long as the people within the spreaders block can spread the ideas to ~2.4 people every iteration before the first peak/idea resistance, you will see a rise in that idea exponentially.

Bots don't waste time doing repetitive tasks of spreading ideas. They can spread it to thousands of people every iteration. And knowing how to make a good bot that bypasses AI filters and now reCAPTCHAs, I can easily do bot networks that can explode ideas, which can increase greatly if other people are able to do it.

>>218335

Hi P (that is who this is, right)… :) Why aren't you on cuck chan?

I thought that was your default hang out now.

What could you possibly want over here? There isn't anyone to recruit anymore.

>2.4 people every iteration before the first peak/idea resistance, you will see a rise in that idea exponentially.

Well that is way more efficient than me doing it all myself. I have had a great effect in the world but I could never compete against the AI's which would come in a wave (however I did get their first and that counts for something) and they gradually began to drown me out. lol…not that it makes that much difference in the long run, this will all end the same because behavior is a destination (so to speak). I used to call it 'speaking into the well', observation of how the idea was taken up and repeated; it was how I measure the re-uptake of the idea…it looks like you don't particularly give a shit about that though.

So how do you measure effective spread because people are pretty fragmented now…most of them can't even remember the promise that we were only going to have to wear the masks for two weeks and now they are looking at face diapers for life and they don't even question why.

>>218337

Not P. Definitely not into cuck stuff or weird things.

>So how do you measure effective spread because people are pretty fragmented now…

From papers in Computer Science and Economics, the way people get major parameters is to look on social media and measure the mentions of a rumor. It's pretty easy to map new mentions of an event with automation.

You also have larger results like Google Trends. The parameters that are static are tested over multiple smaller cases and compared through Statistical methods. The parameters that are subject to many other external factors tend to be inferenced to closest cases.

Scraping through half a million tweets and creating a time series takes a few hours depending on bandwidth and how you set up your message. I might work on that after ensuring that I can get through Google's reCaptcha(rated at ~20s per bot solving).

The one thing that cannot be guaranteed is whether you have acceptance of the idea/rumor and new spreaders. But there are general parameters to follow. That downside for a lot of the models is that only 10% of people in the US use Twitter, and many aren't interested in google searching things when they have private conversations.

The best way to know if it works is public sentiment. If you can have a conversation with a random and they say "yeah I know, I heard that", I'd say that's a success, then it's about taking action. Either way DARPA niggers and CIA niggers are actively involved with botting on their own platforms trying to do a tug of war.

>>218341

>The best way to know if it works is public sentiment

I was told it was based in emotive content. Fuck the words or the message if you can connect with people on an emotional level you have them for life and they will die with that idea embedded into their brain. So what are you using for emotional connection, the poetry of human to human connection? I bet you could refine the effective spread of any idea to a very high percent of influence if you had the right emotional content.

lets say you were able to reach 10% as a baseline. Using poetic emotive language to construct the 'perfect message' would bring your success rate well above 50%…so is that a factor for you?

Is this a factor in your agenda? I have to assume you have an agenda otherwise, why bother, right?

>>218347

I don't need a punch line or to really care about 'the perfect message' unless I can coordinate massive bot campaigns with other people. People get emotionally attached to bots in private conversations so long as the bot is capable of being relatable. It's way more personal than a slogan, some ZOG-bot auto response or market campaign.

The only thing I care to adjust is trying out different conversation lines and measuring how effective they are and updating by pruning bad ones and using good ones. It can change over time.

You're never going to know what is a perfect line. I test many out on chatting apps which unlike the websites I know how to filter out other bots given how simple most are and there's tons of data out there for engineers to do a fast positive/negative response model for each person.

>>218352

What platform are the bots on?

>>218354

Just go on any major random chatting service that has a userbase, even multiple. You can use anything so long as it has a userbase as long as you know how to program the bot to access web elements/css/tags.

It's better that I not give it out because CIA niggers and Zionist journalists will rush to it, but the ones I use really popular with young people.

You can have bots on basically any platform from Facebook, Twitter, Tik Tok, even dating services like Tinder, so long as it's a randomized group of people, that's the best way to test it out. But the key word is chatting, which isn't comment sections. Comment sections with repeated messages is auto-ban. Chatting services that are popular have very basic AI filters and only target things like discord/kik/porn spam.

For coding, it can be any language that interacts with a browser. Use a high level language for simple bots to get an idea of how to create bots as the syntax is easy, but for complex bots you need C++/C#/Java.

>>218355

So what is your agenda with these anon? I mean, that is a lot of firepower you have there, why bother if you are not getting something?

>>218357

The agenda is to tie the conversations into noticing ZOG and taking action against them, for campaigns against lockdowns, information on the mRNA vaccines using actual studies showing they are dangerous, information basically against the ruling class.

Seed red pills at rates of 10k people per week per bot. Every little bit against ZOG to combat them. What they are doing with corporations and government is attacking people from all angles, so people have to combat them in reverse by simply using the truth.

People are already taking action in many countries against the lockdowns including Switzerland. You have protests erupting across Europe. ZOG created the pandemic idea to tighten their grip on the world, and the control, which is 24/7 media coverage and 24/7 programming is slowly waning. The bots, which spread studies and convince people against lockdowns means those people spread it to their friends and so on.

>>218359

Well then you have my deep appreciation anon. I have been doing this for more 20 years and I have seen this go from being no censorship at all to total totalitarian state. I consider myself the most censored person online (though I haven't been banned today; yet, day is not over). But the bots were a class of their own and I could never compete, I started noticing them in full force in 2015/2016. Mostly now stick with small more personal forums and really work with people to make sure they understand. It is good to see that there is someone out there competing with the big boys on their playing field because, like I said, I just couldn't keep up after a while.

What do you see happening in the future for you anon? Where do you see this going? Do you think you will continue with the bots or are you going to try a different technology?

>>218364

>happening in the future for you anon?

Depends on whether I will be of use tomorrow for innovation technology in AI and personal robotic assistants. It also depends on whether CIA niggers decide that I'm a threat to their ZOG good boy points.

I'm working on starting a few companies in a a variety of fields.

>Where do you see this going?

A lot of good insight and consulting for AI and people looking to start social media companies.

> Do you think you will continue with the bots or are you going to try a different technology?

The bots will get better over time because I have plans for a dynamic chatting AI that doesn't use semi-static responses. But with all technology, while peaceful resolve is good, eventually the warfare will escalate.

Their next move from Davos is an internet passport tied to digital ID within the next 5-10 years. I have an idea on how to bypass it.

What other anons need to do on this platform is start doing printouts. Those are also effective and kind of bypasses this ZOG-empire as long as you're not using a phone in public when you are passing it out. And get people off of the big corporate social media sites to smaller localized ones with a set timer to delete messages for friends.

During this time people need to learn how to hack. If an anon can break their banks and institutions for 24 hours, they will lose billions and it will be a massive set-back for them. That means people also need to mobilize to get rid of ZOG. Do war on all fronts. Jews don't have the manpower to ever stop that even if they have control of the internet.

>>218366

>But with all technology, while peaceful resolve is good, eventually the warfare will escalate.

What would future warfare look like anon? I am trying to imagine how bots will play a part in future warfare or what would be evolved with that.

>>218367

*involved

>>218367

Bots and robotic manipulation is current generation warfare. Next generation is terrifying and more hands on.

I don't think it will be bots because big tech/media will run off the rails and split into a new dark age for information(which is good if you have small social media spaces). Instead it will be a war on security and encryption through quantum computing, which means most computers should not even be connected to the internet or have hardware capable of receiving a connection.

At that stage, it will be a race in robotics and biologics to kill other people and take resources.

>>218370

Just wait until they move into quantum biology. I think that is my new 'love affair'. I am scared to death because each time I start looking into these things I am utterly horrified by what I find as 'the potential'. I keep going smaller and smaller with elements of my research…however, all things should be possible at the scale of probability fluctuations in the material world, which, you know, think about it…probably can't get anymore horrifying that 'all things being possible' for humanity in its current iteration.

PS I think we are at this stage you mentioned here already:

>it will be a race in robotics and biologics to kill other people and take resources; they are just 'subtle' about who they are bumping off.

What do you suppose they think will be the eventual outcome of these actions? Do they really think that they will get to the end and then just 'pump the brakes'? Don't they recognize that their momentum is going to carry them right off the edge of the cliff as well?

Anon, what other fields are you looking into…I guess you are uniquely qualified to address that question above about (going off the cliff) above since you will be in the heart of the struggle for resources.

I wonder what the ideal future would be for you? Obviously the bot wars, which I gather you will port over into a physical machines or drones.

Do you feel your bots 'reason' like a human reasons at this point? How much more development do you foresee until they are indistinguishable from a human?

>Instead it will be a war on security and encryption through quantum computing

IDK anon, I think quantum biology is going to kick the shit out of quantum computers (this is my uneducated [thus far] take on the situation). The biological diversity of a natural (self replicating) construct with access to the unified field is going to be far more powerful (but initially slower due to the number of cognitive barriers it will have to smash through) than any constructed mechanism…it is simply a question of adaptation. I don't think machines are nearly as evolved as a biological lifeform. Even plants are currently capable of kicking the shit out of any quantum computer due to their structural ability to calculate the superposition of photons; they do it naturally as a function of a determined universe and don't need "instructions" or excess resources.

The miracle of living systems is absolutely profound anon.

>>218380

> I think we are at this stage you mentioned here already

If we were Jews would have already killed the planet already in their mad rush for power. It's at the infancy stage still due to how expensive it is. Honeywell had some advancements with their computer systems which are commercially available but still not fully utilized yet. Their systems operate commercially for cloud servers because it's utilized for processing power. When it is widely adopted, it will be the next generation. It's a steam engine right now, not a combustion engine.

>What do you suppose they think will be the eventual outcome of these actions?

Read the Talmud. The end result for them is a Gog and Magog war killing all gentiles against them(Edom) and having full control of the internet/jobs/transpiration through digital IDs(which they brought up at a recent Davos tech conference) tied to biometric data(the mark of the beast).

>Do they really think that they will get to the end and then just 'pump the brakes'?

Yes. When everyone is their slave, next phase is depopulation under climate change. Jews will sit at the top of death panels and decide who lives and who dies if they have a technological supremacy.

After they kill a lot of people just like they did in Bolshevik Russia, they will take pressure off their selves because they have control of the world, while centered in a country that controls the world for the next millennia.

> Don't they recognize that their momentum is going to carry them right off the edge of the cliff as well?

Zionists started this global war through Judaism for thousands of years. The intention is either they win or we do. If they go off the cliff they intend to take us with them. Over this last century they have done absolutely everything in their power to take power and go to their end game. They're willing to risk total annihilation, otherwise they never would have attacked the US through the FED, through Communist insurgents, through Irgun, through LBJ, through Reagan, through direct treason with China, through Hollywood and pedophile rings. They have all their chips on the table, so momentum doesn't matter. We fight or a loss is guaranteed.

>what other fields are you looking into

Right now I want to specialize in what I'm doing. I'd love to go into robotics which is part of your question on what an ideal future looks like. Ideal for me is being able to innovate robot technology and have self-building robots that can go into space. I always had a dream of terraforming planets like Mars with robots that mine their own materials, process their own materials, construct their own circuits and have a set goal of turning entire planets or systems into livable space.

Ideal is also no ZOG and this forced indentured servitude society created by the ruling class. Their wealth should be seized by all governments for treason and crimes against humanity. DARPA and CIA niggers can go overdose in a lot for all I care. They serve no purpose if humanity is to ever have a future.

>>218380

>Do you feel your bots 'reason' like a human reasons at this point? How much more development do you foresee until they are indistinguishable from a human?

Bots reason better than most people because they can be based on an algorithm that reacts to an external source and optimize itself to a set goal.

Humans have reasoning skills but most if not everyone has flaws which is why we are in a constant struggle for resources and power.

Unlike humans, bots can work in distinct roles and the summation of said bots can reason better than humans because it's a pseudo hivemind. There's no reason for it to be one system, or have one brain. Computers can work like ants and reason through problems independently so long as the central task is programmed. It would be like a human having issues with their heart, yet while we have to take a lot of time to understand the problem many robots can just self-optimize constantly and eventually, generate computer clones. It can calculated complicated statistics and use that as a source for reasoning which most people cannot do without years of experience.

Humans have inference and creativity, bots have optimization methods. Optimization methods beat inference and only misses creativity. They will never be able to create their own technological advances or energy uses that haven't been conceived of, such as how to interact between space and time. But they can beat biological organisms in endless expansion. Everything else they can do better than humans.

> I don't think machines are nearly as evolved as a biological lifeform.

Above answers that. They can be programmed beyond lifeforms in complexity and as a pseudo hivemind. Why need a plant cell structure at all when a bot net can just get all the materials it needs and how to use it programmed in? If it can build itself, and expand to a set goal, then it has no pressures apart from energy usage, with the benefit that it can do what humanity wants on an endless timeline.

Even then, there's also evolution algorithms in computer science. If people can program it to work on the quantum scale, it will probably learn how to use it or optimize it. I made bots learn how to navigate spaces with the only set instruction being straight line distance between the start and the end. If it can do experiments then it could in theory evolve to make better use of resources, but not create anything fundamentally new.

Oh no, I scared away mr robot with my Jupiter theories. 🥲

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>>248654

You're jealous of my skillz.