d28895 No.185113
ITT we discuss the dangerous side of pornography, the way that one can successfully overcome his addiction and effective ways we can redpill the normalfags on this.
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6c5075 No.185131
There aren’t any. Your thread is shit. You fundamentally don’t understand how the world works. No one will ever fight back against any of this.
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d28895 No.185132
>>185131
They have already won if we won't try.
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cfeb37 No.185133
>>185113
After only having dreamless sleep my whole life I started having the most intense and super realistic dreams once I was 3-4 weeks into nofap and noporn. It certainly does something to your brain.
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cc015f No.185134
I agree, but it's not excalty easy.
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5c5fbb No.185137
>>185113
>>185113
My only solution is revitalization of Christian religion, punishment for blasphemy and turning the internet off. To kill off not just porn, but ALL idiocies of modern society. Its amazing how fast society changed once it got high speed internet. Many unaware parents allowed their offspring to gain unrestricted access to the worst kinds of intellectual trash from tumblr and reddit. Internet should only be used for reading news and as a digital library.
But that's one part of the job. Second part of the job is taking over universities and education to finish off what commie shit jews teach in campuses. Because that's where all progressive internet trash got its ideological basis.
And then force people into appreciating classic art and music to get the idea of real value of art and divinity of life, annihilate degenerating forms of modern art and satanist music, as well as cut ties off with japan so they will stop selling their filth, and instead make people of your country appreciate their own culture. Psychology needs to be taken away from the jews as well, so they'll stop promoting hedonism.
If that's sounds too rough or extreme to you, you're doing it wrong.
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4386ce No.185138
>>185133
Having wet dreams tends to wake someone up and waking up in the middle of a dream makes it easier to remember what they were about and how vivid they were. That seems like a more common sense explanation than fapping being responsible for stealing your dreams away.
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8512db No.185139
>>185113
The dangers of pornography: stunting your social, political, and financial development. Porn introduces a hypnotic addictive passivity unlike any other deterrent that subverts your concept of heroism and therefore activism or actions against injustice.
How to overcome porn addiction: like most addictions and disorders the constant variable in this problematic lifestyle is idling. There is nothing wrong with idling by itself but if you introduce a human brain starved for pleasure and happiness idling becomes very dangerous to a species designed for social interaction and physical labor. Porn replaces our sense of sexual morality, modesty, shame, and meaningful symbology such as the arts, even marriage. To overcome this addiction: don't idle. For a full on treatment, campaign for change and legislate into law which forbids excessive sexual human relations to kill two birds with one stone. It puts a stop to the miserable culture of casual sex and reinforces the stigma premarital sex once had. Porn and working in porn would be seen as life-ending choices rather than its revolutionary styled Internet career our simps and morons allowed to exist with their slave wages.
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e6289a No.185142
>>185133
I get random boners when I try noporn but I am still tempted to jerk it to make it go away.
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060338 No.185144
>>185137
I grew up on the internet since i was little (29yo) so i have more of a first hand opinion that most: And i can say with confidence there is a huge problem with children on the internet. When i grew up, I had video games and most everyone else was older and the internet was still "new".
Now days there are sites dedicated to letting kids chat, etc. You dont need confidence to ask out a girl online, you dont get approach anxiety. You ask out everyone, it becomes much more of a numbers game. I believe this to be a HUGE reason why fewer and fewer girls these days are virgins at the age of 16+
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f7a2b2 No.185146
>>185132
We’ve tried. It didn’t work. The only thing to do is physically destroy the servers on which the porn sites are hosted. We will never do this. They have already won.
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7af8aa No.185147
>>185144
>I believe this to be a HUGE reason why fewer and fewer girls these days are virgins at the age of 16+
As if that was ever the norm, the idea that people should fight their biology and try to artifically delay their sexual maturity is a purely modern one and clearly isn't working. Its just that in your attempts to delay it you've made important traditions like marriage illegal and in doing so created the problem of people having way too many partners. Theres just as many virgins out there as there ever were its just that in the past you could actually marry them and didn't have to wait until they fucked 100 guys in casual flings over the years before you were allowed to.
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cfeb37 No.185150
>>185138
That hasn't been the case for me. Sometimes I wake up for different reason and still don't remember shit. Only a few of the dreams were sexual and I also didn't wake up except once.
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cfeb37 No.185151
>>185142
I don't think that's bad. I tried nofap and noporn in various combinations before and I haven't noticed anything until I also cut out the porn. Porn is a bigger factor than the fapping.
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3794e5 No.185152
Now I have a criminal record, convicted of assaulting a woman who rejected me. Porn is probably a part of the cause but I think maybe PUA even more.
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419b0d No.185158
Regardless of gender, you actually lose a lot of protein, minerals, and nutrients every time you nUt
Excessive sex or fapping, regardless of porn, can and will make you deficient in both vitamins and minerals, nutrients, and enzymes essential to your overall 'vitality.' (Not to mention you lose a lot of Zinc, which is one of the nutrients most proven to fight Covid) In addition to this, whether or not you're spiritual, most different religions & spiritual beliefs, and many cultures, have long-held throughout history that nUtting expends spiritual energy too, which is something to at least consider if you have no beliefs.
All of the above applies to nUtting at large, and it gets notably more concerning when you pair it with porn.
The combination of needing less energy to nUt (instead of a cardio/ab workout, its a solely a wrist workout), plus the fact that the same hormones are not released after you nUt (like serotonin and oxytocin), porn fapping is far more addictive than actual sex. This is reinforced psychologically because it's such an efficient process to nUt, as well as giving you more "freedom" to choose what kind of porn/person you want to cuckold to.
The result is a feedback loop that continually justifies its own existence in the logical brain of the addict, who will then defend its very efficient life choices, like >>185131
These are just an overview of some of the factors, it also affects social and mental health, distorts the addict's view of reality (hypnosis/gaslighting), as well as a few other possibilities since it is often a slippery slope. Many fall down the kink trap and get more and more "adventurous" until they find they've become a literal degenerate fapping to furry vore hentai or something of the sort.
The solution is not crashing servers or "taking away" the temptations, it's about raising your willpower. You lot are the same kind of person that would quit smoking by using an e-cig, then just gets addicted to the e-cig.
You have to find something that's just as creative, as close to the same satisfaction as you can get, and replace the addiction with that. So when you want to fap, just start drawing, or meditating, or whatever hobby you've wanted to try but never got around to. Learn a new language or something, idk, just do something else that's satisfying to you in a helpful way not a hurtful way whenever you get that impulse.
You'll have good days and bad days, but the more consistent you are, and the more you hold yourself accountable, with forgiveness when you fuck up, the better progress you'll make. It's the same as losing weight or curbing any other vice. And after about 2-3 weeks of constant effort, you'll be surprised with yourself.
Speaking from experience here, I've dropped fapping, lost a lot of weight (100+ lbs without a personal trainer or any of that BS), and cut out multiple addictions in my life. Each one is just as hard as the last, but it gets easier the more you believe you can actually accomplish it. Which you very much can.
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d28895 No.185163
>>185139
>We will never do this. They have already won.
Why not? One retard might actually go for it kamikaze mode. In minecraft of course
But nevertheless, you can't understand how many people the coomer meme redpilled on pornography.
>>185139
>>185158
I can't stop masturbating. I did a very long streak and when I relapsed, I started again, even more aggressive this time.
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419b0d No.185167
>>185163
It's 60% mindset, 40% effort. If you believe you can't, what you have just said will only get worse. Once you actually believe you can, you will. The 40% effort will help you get there if you can maintain the positive outlook and are following the psychology of curbing addiction. The key is replacing the impulse with another similar impulse, what the replacement is for you, I can't say, it's up to you.
But >you can actually do it, you're a human just like me, and anyone else who has stopped.
And if I can go from fapping 10+ times a day to maybe 10 times a year, you can too.
As far as advice I can actually give you directly, I'd look into what happened in your life around the time you started fapping again. This more than likely catalyzed your return to fapping, and if you can resolve within yourself what happened, and find whatever way you can to grow from it, you should find returning to #nofap should become easier once again.
(The "even more aggressive this time" comes from your brain essentially trying to prove yourself right in the belief that you "can't," and is basically, in a crude way of putting it, 'gloating' about it)
>You can do it.
If you have friends or family that you actually enjoy spending time with, this is another element that can help greatly, as social connection releases some of the same hormones (and stronger ones) that can help you replace your biochemical dependence on fapping.
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b15576 No.185168
>>185167
I think you need to realize that theres a difference between having a fap at the end of the day and fapping 10 times a day just like theres a difference between having a few beers at the end of the day and being consistently shitfaced all day every day. Just because you have a problem doesn't mean you have to proselytize the evils of the thing you have a problem with to everyone else that does it reasonably.
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419b0d No.185170
>>185168
Thanks for your ill-informed opinion, you Don Jon shill cuck.
You're the one that came to an anti-porn thread to defend & justify porn
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3ca74d No.185175
>>185167
>It's 60% mindset
What if you have a gorilla mindset?
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b15576 No.185177
>>185170
Yes clearly the one who has difficulty regulating the amount of food he puts in his mouth or times he touches his penis is the person with the more informed opinion on moderation.
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419b0d No.185189
>>185175
then you'll end up sounding like this guy >>185177
ooga booga smoothbrain shill can't read
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48f983 No.185192
Porn and masturbation are another effect of lack of discipline. Modern people are incredibly weak.
All through the ages it’s been noted to not spill your seed.
Porn advocates are just as bad as abortion advocates. The screeds and screeching when someone is denied their masturbation tools is truly disgusting. One of the dumbest hills to defend.
This isn’t complicated at all, just keep your hand off your dick. Needing to cum isn’t some integral piece of your being. I understand the issues young men have with this; proliferation and ubiquitousness access, the modern women in the dating pool, and hyper sexuality you may not even notice because it has been the norm for so long.
Funny that you feel shame after masturbating. Real weird that this just seems to be imbued in your soul. It’s that strange?
At the end of the day if men want to waste their time playing vidya, cumming, and not bettering themselves - that is on them. What a dumb modern problem, all the time sinks the world offers.
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ba2329 No.185207
>>185192
Saith anon who posted Lucas Cranach. How dare a man even get horny! Imagine how many times average priest-confessor hears how men are confessing their masturbatory behaviors? Maybe that's why punishments for it were so high, like a month of fasting, just so common people will stop annoying priests by telling about their wanking and do it in secret anyway like all learned people.
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48f983 No.185237
>>185207
You’re the only anon to ever recognize the artist.
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cef004 No.185560
>>185113
You know from question deep and dread,
How world and sky appear and spread,
How all of space and all of time,
And every tendril creep and climb,
That God has made each one of these,
Each flower and spring he guarantees.
The instincts lead you to his will,
That conscience sweet you may fulfill.
What does it say? Or more revile?
Than what I do below compile
Defilement of his daughters fair,
Corruption of their beauty rare,
Does porn debase their tender hearts,
No innocence - their joy departs,
A slave, they will in ruin remain,
The girl is dead, the maiden slain.
In service of Illuvatar,
Few dare to tread the road this far,
Where will is bent and might is broke,
And back forever bent by yoke,
To cast the ring of power in spite,
To spurn the ruin and crush the night,
I now regain my honor fair,
To dance and sing without a care.
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d8aeb2 No.185754
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1a3f15 No.186984
>>185144
Studies have shown that the younger generations (both male and female) are actually having less sex and are being virgins for longer since they are willfully socially isolating themselves.
Porn addiction in general tends to make people less willing to go out and find partners since it’s “easier” to just use pornhub and raises people’s expectations to absurdity on how attractive (or fulfilling of a specific degenerate kink) their partner needs to look.
The internet is a problem but it actually doesn’t cause people to become whores, it turns people asocial shut-ins who may obsess themselves with degenerate things but too lazy to actually act on it since cooming alone is “easier” to them.
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