/nofap/ - Fappers Anonymous★

>>7853 (OP)

>Desire is the fuel unit for man as an engine of creative advancement. And all of man's desire stems from his sexuality

I'm extremely creative and have no sex drive so how does that work

>>7856

"creativity" ≠ creative advancement

>>7857

So you're saying that those that have a sufficient sex drive that don't have indulge any sexual pleasure will generally fall into a pattern of working to create things and that pattern is completely unrelated to a person's creativity

>>7857

You also said that all of man's desire stems from his sexuality. I desire lots of things, but I don't desire sex and my body has never desired sex. Can you elaborate on how sexuality is behind all desire? Is sexuality behind the desire for food?

>>7859

sorry but hyperliteral people like you are honestly not worth talking to

>>7853 (OP)

There is a difference between strong and weak men. One thing is for sure though, the strong do not masturbate.

>>8015

>video games

I don't understand the argument that games are low effort and are comparable to porn

I don't know about others but my favorite games are of the sports variety which do take effort to succeed

>>8027

They aren't low effort, that's exactly the problem, they're effectively "simulating" worthwhile advance. Much like porn gives us an artificial partner to look at, video games give us artificial conquests, which is why so many people are addicted to them, they get addicted to that feeling of conquest and progress (said conquests and progress leading, eventually, to attracting a sexual partner if they were "real"), feelings which are much aided by the realization that there is very little to lose; we'd be dumb to not take such an opportunity! This doesn't mean they are effortless, mind you, as a conquest can only be defined by the effort that precedes it, and this is something our brains are also wired for; it means they are effectively a waste of time, since whatever you take from a video game at the end of it is very disproportional to the time you spent with that game.

Many people seem to be fine with just playing once in a while though, so I'm not calling you or anyone else an addict or anything. I'm an addict, and I'm trying to quit.

>8030

yes

but if I'm doing nothing what else should I do?

what's a productive thing you do instead of video gaming?

>>8032

That's for you to decide, I'm just trying to explain why 1. video games seem highly addictive to some people, and 2. why most of those people who are addicted and spend too much time on it feel they've "wasted" their time on video games for no little to no long term gain.

Personally for me, I want to write and tell stories, meditate, lucid dream, get healthy, read all kinds of books (books can tell so much compared to any other type of medium, it's amazing), among other things; there's simply no time or place or reason - beyond addiction - for video games. If you're not particularly ambitious, maybe you'll be fine with playing video games all day, but there'll probably come a time where you'll regret it, want to stop, and then realize it was all for nothing. "Fun" exists with a purpose, to learn and develop; video games work by overloading that feeling of fun, feeding it with vapid learning and development which fades away after you stop playing.

Again, I'm not saying that this is your case, nor am I saying you play games all day, it's just a point of view I'm presenting. This is also coming from someone who played A LOT of games, and who thought it was absolutely fine to do so; while it is fine in a way, I can't help but feel I'm wasted my time somewhat, especially after I wanted to quit and couldn't.

>>8037

I plan on quitting gaming after I have this addiction under control where it's not a question if I'll release in a week

>>8039

Things like this are best done not tomorrow, but today; don't postpone it. Think about what you'd rather do than play video games, it is worth spending even an entire day or weekend or week thinking about it - sometimes it helps writing your thoughts down - then, when you have decided, just do that instead. If you relapse that's fine, just start over, maybe write a bit about how you felt.

I've got to say, though I never felt ashamed and regretful after fapping, I always feel that way after I spend an entire day on video games.

>>7860

He made a valid point and you look like a jackass.

>>7932

Holy fuck, I heard there were superpowers, I did't expect literal magic. Count me in.

>>8053

yeah I know man. But for the time being, I feel like I just wouldn't be motivated enough. In the future my DeltaFosB levels will be back to normal and I think at that point I'll be motivated enough to quit my other harmful habits

>>8096

i don't samefag so it's my fanclub

>>8209

>anything I don't like is jewish

>>8210

Is porn damaging? If yes, is it randomly damaging? If it is, then why does the government not intervene to protect the people?

It's a simple series of questions.

>>8211

I thought he was saying the Jews were behind research on porn.

The reason the government doesn't step in is because it would create an underground market. It really wouldn't stop anything given that porn is still legal in other countries and there is the always the deep web. It would be like prohibition but even less effective. Saudi Arabia banned porn but it's trivial to get around the filters.

>>8212

Ok, I'll give you that prohibition would create a black market.

But what about propaganda?

What about proper law enforcement? Vault 7 just came out. If the US government wanted to enforce a law, it would have access to all the information needed to enforce it.

It's interesting how they have a $300 billion budget for the CIA, yet the war on drugs is unwinnable.

>>8213

frankly it's not the government's job to dictate what people do with their lives

>>8216

Yeah, not in your faggot-ass kike-controlled country.

>>8213

how do you plan on punishing those that have seen it? Knocking down the door to the house? That would be extremely expensive. And speaking of money, making porn illegal would make it untaxable. It's a huge industry and alot of income would be lost.

The only thing I would really support is the government advising people on the effects of it, and letting them decide for themselves.

>>8218

>The only thing I would really support is the government advising people on the effects of it, and letting them decide for themselves.

That's the bare minimum.

I'm not saying punish the viewers. But the argument that an anti-pornography legislation is impossible to implement is laughable.

>>8217

>anyone that supports personal liberty is a zionist

you are now a meme

Rolled 2, 1, 3, 3 + 3 = 12 (4d3)

>>8221

(((personal liberty)))

im jew

>>8219

That'd be seen as an anti artistic movement to be fair; what is and isn't porn? Would you consider every naked picture porn?

Besides, it has been proven time and time again that what really gets you is not nakedness, not 'porn' in the traditional sense of the word, but novelty, so you'd be better just censuring the whole internet, because people will get the same fix from watching clothed women.

'Banning porn' is a naive way to think.

>>7856

>I'm extremely creative

Prove it!

>>8296

>woukd you consider every nude image pornographic

yes