/nofap/ - Fappers Anonymous★

1. Porn is a Jew-run globalist machine bent on destroying your race.

2. It is a massive waste of time that might be used in literally anything else. Cleaning dishes is more productive than porn.

3. It spiritually weakens you, weakening your will and literally making you dumber.

Vid related, hits on all those points, plus gives good tips what to do when tempted.

>>7773

I'm not talking about porn as in that kind of porn, videos and stuff, I'm talking about desirable things in general, like looking at a girl outside and having thoughts about her. Pornography in the traditional sense is bad, there's no question in my mind about that.

I've read before about something called sexual transmutation or something of the sort; some people say that if you don't turn this desire into something else you'll never feel relieved ever again, and that's what I'm trying to get at, isn't this desire something that'll always be here?

>>7779

>isn't this desire something that'll always be here

Naw, you'll probably always be tempted, but that doesn't come from "you" but from demons, the flesh and the world. You're walking along and there's an ad that's mean to prey on that, for instance. Just ignore it, say a prayer and move on.

>>7781

I'm not christian. For me, sex demons exist but they're a byproduct of sexual desire (repressed or otherwise), not the cause of it.

>>7772 (OP)

>and you certainly aren't getting a girlfriend through testosterone alone, you actually need social skills as well

For a lot of people the social skills start working automatically when you get your testosterone up

>(which doesn't seem to be the point of human male nature)

There is no point to any lifeform, there's only patterns of behavior and systemic convenience

>Could one not do with fapping once a week or once every two weeks and be absolutely fine if he only used a single source of desire, for instance?

You could do it once a month if you wanted. It takes 7+ days to charge up test to max. For a lot of people this is like asking junkies "Couldn't you just shoot up once a week?". No, they can't; they're addicts

>>7788

>There is no point to any lifeform, there's only patterns of behavior and systemic convenience

I'm meant that some mammal males in nature don't tend to care after children and instead busy themselves with finding, "conquering" and impregnating more partners, I didn't mean it as some deep "why are we here" sort of remark.

>For a lot of people the social skills start working automatically when you get your testosterone up

I think this is a complete myth and an irrational thing to think. Social interaction is a skill which has a learning curve. It is dependent on observing how others interact and on interacting with others. If you're a basement dweller who hasn't spoken to a person face to face in 10 years, you're not going to be good at socializing, nofap or no nofap. I speak from experience, since I still fapped when I got my job, and through my job I stopped being as awkward and shit, but nofap is not a magical tool to get you social skills; at best it is something that keeps you from developing them, but you still have to work for them after you're "free".

> For a lot of people this is like asking junkies "Couldn't you just shoot up once a week?". No, they can't; they're addicts

I know, I'm on the same boat right now, I'm one of them. But now I feel that it's wrong to treat this as a drug, since again, it's something that'll always be with us, and not something we can get rid of by abstaining for a period of time.

>>7789

>I'm meant that some mammal males in nature don't tend to care after children and instead busy themselves with finding "conquering" and impregnating more partners

That doesn't mean humans are like those other mammals. My point was to focus on maximizing personal happiness and not to just focus on some idea of what men "should be doing". Maybe we agree on this

>I think this is a complete myth and an irrational thing to think

It's rational to base conclusions on results. What I said is true of myself and everyone I recommend nofap and test-boosting protocols to. Their social skills just start working correctly right when they get their test up

>It is dependent on observing how others interact and on interacting with others. If you're a basement dweller who hasn't spoken to a person face to face in 10 years, you're not going to be good at socializing, nofap or no nofap

It's dependent on the person

>But now I feel that it's wrong to treat this as a drug, since again, it's something that'll always be with us, and not something we can get rid of by abstaining for a period of time

Heroin junkies usually have to fight their addictive urges for the rest of their lives

>>7791

>Heroin junkies usually have to fight their addictive urges for the rest of their lives

Isn't heroin known to give you the same stimulation as sex or something?

>>7772 (OP)

Like I said in another thread, you don't have the "urge to fap". It's the urge to reproduce. If you don't reproduce you are failing your most basic instinct

>>7772 (OP)

You will be dead in <100 years and the world will be the same regardless of whether you've fapped or not. If you don't want to have kids, there's really no reason not to fap as much as you like.

>>7794

That statement belies your complete misunderstanding of evolution and existence in general. To put it simply, the universe is devoid of motivation and reason. You have whatever urges you have and no more. Evolution didn't have any goal in mind for you. Natural selection is blind and uncaring and does not build things in the way a human would build them. Only a human would take a simple urge to reach orgasm and claim that there exists some higher goal of reproduction. Human reproduction is no more important than the propagation of a computer virus. The universe doesn't give a fuck about anything, least of all you.

If you want to anthropomorphize evolution in order to bring meaning to your pointless struggle against entropy though, go right ahead. The universe really doesn't care either way.

>>7830

kill yourself you nihilist retard

>>7830

Your post is true throughout but I don't see how it's a response to what that guy said. It seems to me he's saying that the impulse to masturbate is a mutation of the impulses that exist for reproduction to occur and that not reproducing means you're not satisfying one of your most basic instincts

He never said "the universe cares about me, evolution is intelligently designed, and reproduction is objectively good"

>>7841

you may be jewish

>>7841

you've found the motivation, now to nofap your way into nuclear physics and make the world's biggest dirty bomb -- which is not your bedroom as your mother once told me.

>>7772 (OP)

>but I don't want to have kids

Then whose going to check the parts build for your robot body after the DELL salesman grifts you a robobrain model that's reprocessed from a bad batch of itoasters? You'll be too senile by that point, you won't know the score anymore.

>>7772 (OP)

You need to surf /r/nofap for a while and look for benefits. Even though the advice is "broscience," there's a good chance that it works to an extent.

>>7888

>You need to surf /r/nofap

>/r/nofap

FUCKING NORMALFAGS GET THE FUCK OUT OFF MY FUCKING BOARD

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

What a shamefull waste of trips

>>7934

You mean the trips of truth, heathen.

>>7772 (OP)

OP here just to keep you updated.

I relapsed that day. A mix of work related stress and an opportunity to fap lead me to it, I was thinking about it all day as well, and while I thought about not doing it, I "knew" I had to fap; that state of mind didn't help. I was mad, but I had some specific reasons to be mad, but I think I don't consider fapping the devil anymore, to be fair. I think I can actually keep it in check by fapping once every week, I'm capable of that.

Porn on the other hand? Fuck that.

>>7947

Your reddit faggotry is not as funny as you think it is.

>>7949

>I think I can actually keep it in check by fapping once every week

Don't do this. I tried the same as I started lifting for max testosterone and the "once a week" caused a lot more relapses than just trying to not fap at all.