/nofap/ - Fappers Anonymous★

>>3679 (OP)

Don't do it. No good can come of it and you know it; it'd just be another form of pleasure, and worst case scenario you'd just be left with another kind of unproductive addiction.

I mostly think the point of not fapping is more getting the addiction off, rather than replacing it with some other form of addiction, be it a 'good' or a 'bad' kind of addiction; the point is breaking habit; having control; killing urge, and living as you consciously want to live. Some people don't think like this though, some people think you should replace the bad habits with good habits; their views are centred around simply getting better.

Point is ultimately to become better, and, of course, 'better' is subjective, so I must ask, do you think you'd be better being addicted to cutting and generally harming yourself, something you clearly stated you don't like?

>>3680

You say that, but to be honest, I'd rather inflict some sort of pain on myself than be dragged around by the yearning for the pleasure. And I'm not so sure if cutting yourself can actually be addicting unless it's about the mindset of "being on the edge", like as if you're gambling. Supposedly only girls really like harming themselves in that way, too, and that makes a lot of sense to me, based on what I've come to understand about them.

>>3681

>You say that, but to be honest, I'd rather inflict some sort of pain on myself than be dragged around by the yearning for the pleasure.

You'll end up associating it with positivity, how can you not see? You might as well just continue fapping, at least you won't waste your time developing another addiction and losing control some other way.

Honestly, you sound like someone who really can't be helped if you actually mean the things you said on your last post.

>>3684

You don't really seem to know what you're talking about, though.

>>3685

Ok, do it then.

>>3681

>And I'm not so sure if cutting yourself can actually be addicting

You do get a mild dopamine release when you get injured, it's your body's natural painkiller. There are people addicted to self harm.

I think the larger issue is that of self hatred. Your fap addiction is probably based on the same thing. You don't believe you deserve to get better or some shit and that's why you're resorting to such extreme methods. A people who like themselves doesn't want to hurt themselves.

And yes, if you cut yourself only when you're aroused, it could backfire and now suddenly you're into weird BDSM stuff.

>>3690

This.

It seems like you are selfloathing because of your fap addiction. I can relate to that.

But if you are looking to "punish" yourself for relapsing in an attempt to rewire the reward center in your brain then you are better off finding other ways.

How about turning the punishment into something productive?

You could make yourself do physical exercise for every relapse, pushups until you collapse for example. Or you could condemn yourself to do voluntary work or not do any fun activities for the rest of the day.

If your are obese you could not eat food for the rest of the day.

But in order for this to work you will need the willpower to actually go through with these things. You could start with something easy and pinch yourself really hard for every relapse

umm no

Is this a serious post?

Are you either of the commies I was arguing with?

Don't do it. I have scars for life from when I was a retard younger.

>>3690

>>3692

It's not out of self-hatred. I consider it more of an annoyance. Also, I already tried those things, and they weren't for me, or they didn't work. At the very worst, it's a practical sort of desperation following the logic that something like sharp pain is the fastest and easiest way to hold back in a specific way. I don't see why it shouldn't be a problem as long as I use it in that way. I don't think of it as a form of "punishment", I simply see it as something I could apply to distract me.

>>3693

This is my first time posting here.

>>3695

I have scars on my body for worse shit that was out of my control, I'm not afraid to risk scarring myself with stuff that doesn't compare.

>>3701

Self harm scars are different, as soon as anyone sees them they instantly know what caused them

>>3702

What's the problem?

>>3703

You don't want that shame and judgement, just don't do it it's such a fucking stupid idea

Fine then, if you want to hurt yourself go ahead. If you don't know already that this is a bad idea it will be a great learning experience.

>>3704

>muh shame and judgement

Are you kidding?

>>3679 (OP)

NO! DON'T DO IT!

The entire reason for not fapping is to improve your life. It is meant to get you more productive, more alert and encouraging you to find real love. Porn is an empty pleasure, one that is meant to make you more docile and content with your actual sexual starvation.

But by the gods, before you start hurting yourself you should just give in, and try a slower no-fap approach, instead of going instantly cold-turkey you just restrict yourself to once or twice a week, and slowly reduce it until you no longer need it. Yes, it is bitter to fall back, but it is by far not an easy task to begin with, and under no circumstance should you need to hurt yourself to keep going, that is against the entire point of no-fapping. Learn from it, strengthen your resolve, and find in yourself the determination to put an end to this cycle.

do cold showers. And by cold I mean as cold as it gets. just get in there put max cold and count to 3 then get in the shower. I dont care if u want to leave or feel its too cold just do it. I like putting epic music when i cold shower. Stay there for at least 5 minutes. At the beggining you will feel like shit but after 2 minutes you will feel good and invinsible. You're back straightens up and you feel like the fucking king of the world. its a hyuge boost for morale and creates strong willpower. When you get used to it its not that hard. Just dont overthink it before you get underwater thats the only hard part. 1-2-3 gogo! gl

>>3679 (OP)

That's fucking retarded

ebin

My experience with cutting:

MY LIFE SUCKS

*slash slash slash*

AND THIS ISN'T HELPING!!!

Something that CAN help you though is making healthy choices and having a lifestyle change.

http://glowonline.org/tract/steps-to-health/ this is an article that helps give a foundation to a healthier/happier life. I believe it will be useful for you. Don't give up. Cutting is useless. Been there done that.

If you do it, carve /nofap/ into your arm and post pic with timestamp.

It would help but don't cut yourself. There are better ways to induce pain without leaving permanent scars. Get a piece of rope and hit yourself on the back a couple of times whenever the urge comes. I'm 2 months clean and there is no way I would have been able to go this long without disciplining myself.

>>4812

I would go with this suggestion if you must. I've used an extension cord every now and then to whip myself when erotic thoughts seem too persistent, but I'd warn you not make a habit of such things. In most cases, a tiny little prick of some kind might be enough to remind yourself before you make mistake or to satisfy a dopamine craving in the brain. Most of the time I bite my thumb with my canines really hard, but not hard enough to break the skin just to try to ward off a stray thought or two.

>>3681

I would highly discourage serious pain for reasons others have mentioned.

Something that I found works relatively well for reminding me to do, or not to do something is to attach a rubber band around my wrist. When I look at my hands, for whatever reason, I'm reminded why I'm wearing the rubber band. If I'm wearing it to prevent me from doing something, and I do said action, a small flick on my wrist is a mild punishment, notice, keep it a punishment, do not derive pleasure from it.

I have read a lot about hormones and shit (I am still far from expert or so, I am probably just above average, nothing more) and just spontaneously, I think it could maybe work at first, however, there is a risk that after some time, every time you feel pain or maybe even see someone in pain you get horny because your brain makes a connection between pain and hornyness. It could also be subtle in another way, for example every time you crave something (food etc.) you will get the urge to cut yourself

>>3679 (OP)

This looks like a troll post.

Who the fuck would ask something like this?

Physical exercise helps expel unwanted extra energy. If you feel uncontrollable energy, then do some exercise. No need to be retarded about it.

Self-harm doesn't help. It's better to find some way to be of service, of course in an arrangement that is not destructive .

>>3679 (OP)

lol

Yes do it.