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 No.10766>>10769 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

How do I do it? I won't quit the internet. I need it. How do I avoid temptation in general? Addiction? What can one do in the moment when one catches themselves to prevent the recurrence?

 No.10767

i'm afraid without cutting the internet or at the very least imageboards total elimination of triggers is pretty much unachiavable


 No.10769>>10770

>>10766 (OP)

Everyone who has been working at nofap for long enough realizes when they've been triggered. Maybe you're extra stressed that day and start unconsciously playing with your dick. Maybe you happen upon porn when browsing or see an attractive girl out and about. This will plant the corrosive seed of destruction, as you well know. You need to address it as soon as possible. The best way to do this is sexual transmutation however that is a whole other level than most people here are aiming for. An alternative is to wear yourself out to the point that you don't have the energy to fap. Once you feel the poison start to spread you need to do HIIT or some other exhausting form of exercise. Lifting is great but generally it will not wear you out enough to make you pass out.


 No.10770>>10772

>>10769

Sounds like without drugs it only gets harder. Weed will play its part.. but..

In regards to how the triggers come about.. a lot of it has to do with my mood and context of what I am doing. If I am bored, depressed, stressed- any sort of mixture it opens my vulnerability. When I find interesting stuff to read or watch I can stay engaged and not think of it. I just have trouble maintaining that sort of attention/focus. I don't know if this is relevant in some general sense: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8eP99neOVs

The part where my cycle kind of allows itself to loop is my enjoyment for these distractions (learning). I want to learn more but I feel like I subconsciously tell myself that I will fail in some way that changes the whole course of where I am going in the world.

Most typically I just have trouble being organized/routine enough to build any real foundation where I can learn and live in.

It's always chaotic every 3-4 months in a year every year. I doubt I lose I struggle. Obviously it seems most of this arises from psychological problems which are planned on being addressed soon but what can I do in the mean time to steer towards better practices on learning and enjoying the rewards of discovery on a more positive cycle?


 No.10771

if alcohol gives you acute impotence, i'd say that. But it's a double edged sword, if your inhibitions are too low flacidity won't stop you


 No.10772>>10774

>>10770

Learn to recognize and master your own reward system. With PMO your dopamine is all out of whack. Dopamine is the "seeking/finding" neurotransmitter. If your hobby is studying then looking for that "next big revelation" or something of the sort you will produce dopamine as you seek it out. Over time fapping we train our reward pathways to associate dopamine spikes with porn. As such even unrelated stimuli that produce dopamine can trigger a response to further seek out porn to keep riding that dopamine high.

After you orgasm your body produces endorphins which produces euphoria, pleasure, and sense of well being. PMO is training your body to ride this dopamine -> endorphin cycle to keep you sated and happy, essentially it becomes your coping mechanism. The ultimate long term strategy is to replace these with other healthier addictions. Working out produces endorphins and makes you healthier. Studying and seeking knowledge as I stated above can produce dopamine. This is also why many such as myself see casual sex as just as degenerate as PMO. You do get some benefits from skin on skin contact like production of oxytocin but you will end up just using hookup culture as a different coping mechanism. That is disregarding any cultural and spiritual damage that comes with engaging in degeneracy.

Note, all this is moot if your willpower is great enough. An iron willed man does not need crutches to succeed. You can forge your will through mindfulness, perseverance, and outlook and self actualize into that man with enough effort.


 No.10774

>>10772

this: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/good-thinking/201306/how-boost-your-willpower

seems relevant to what you're talking about. It's boiling down to discipline.. And as described in the article discipline can occur in small doses. I never really bothered breaking down tasks to smaller chunks. But controlling other things in your life more often can also increase your odds of success.




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