[ / / / / / / / / / / / / / ] [ dir / arepa / general / imouto / o / sw / tacos / travis2k / vg ]

/mu/ - Music

I will never be afraid again!
Name
Email
Subject
Comment *
File
Password (Randomized for file and post deletion; you may also set your own.)
* = required field[▶ Show post options & limits]
Confused? See the FAQ.
Embed
(replaces files and can be used instead)
Options

Allowed file types:jpg, jpeg, gif, png, webm, mp4, swf, pdf
Max filesize is 16 MB.
Max image dimensions are 15000 x 15000.
You may upload 5 per post.


YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

 No.96805

DAE REMEMBER THE 90S 00S???

Is the 80s revival finally on its way out? I think it's about time the (((music industry))) tried milking a more recent decade, the 80s have been getting milked continuously since the millennium at least (I would say the 90s even but those had more of a 70s revival going on)… Do you think artists will just adopt some shitty aesthetics like in vid related or will anyone actually try to replicate 90s-00s sounds (e.g. early RnB / hip hop, hard trance / techno…etc)?

 No.96808

>>96805

>Do you think artists will just adopt some shitty aesthetics like in vid related or will anyone actually try to replicate 90s-00s sounds (e.g. early RnB / hip hop, hard trance / techno…etc)?

Easily the former. The latter would take an actual understanding of specific genres, like what what made them successful or knowledge of their roots (which likely go back into previous decades). It's much easier to put on a Mike Score hairdo and say "I am da 80s". I hate this type of generalization of decades.


 No.96814

>DAE

You have to go back


 No.96823

When most people think of a stereotypical, generalized "80s", they're more often than not thinking of the 3 year period between 1983 and 1986. Up to 1982, culture still had a largely 70s influence, with synths only just starting to triumph the music sector. Home video systems were expensive and unreliable, if you owned more than a handful of films you usually worked in the media sector and had a home projector or U-Matic. Mullets and moustaches were still commonplace, and skinny men that wore make-up and tight fitting clothes were still called fags as they should. Most cars were updated 70s designs (including the C3 Corvette, which had been in production since 1968), except the chrome was replaced with either plastic or color-coding. TV shows that launched in these first 3 years of the decade were a lot more 70s-style than 80s (see Magnum PI, Dynasty and Cheers) and films were still very adult-orientated. Video games were very primitive prior to the NES, graphics were 99% flat and so blocky you could represent them with basic lego pieces.

And on the other end of the spectrum, by 1987 the world was clearly starting to rapidly modernize. Most of the British Invasion had started to drop off the charts, most noticeably Duran Duran who had dominated the first half of the 1980s. Automobiles were starting to lose the pop-up headlamps that were such a stalwart of the previous decade. They were adopting rounded edges over sharp corners. Whereas most decades tended to overlap a little with the one succeeding it, by early 1990 most of the 80s were dead and buried. Miami Vice was cancelled that year, Stock Aitken Waterman had their least successful year after coming off of their most successful one and techno/house, rap/hip-hop and grunge were taking over the music industry. Renowned acts such as Madonna went from releasing cheery pop songs to darker, more sexually-fuelled numbers (e.g. Justify My Love) A song that I thought for the longest time was sung by a black vocalist, movies went back from kid-friendly to grittier, violent pictures as they were in the 1970s (Die Hard 1 & 2, T2, Goodfellas, Godfather III), and video games began to focus on the home market far more than arcades.


 No.96824

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>96805

I thought Porter Robinson's Virtual Self EP did this sort of thing well. It feels like an "inspired by the music I liked and stuck with me from the late 90's and early 2000's and here is my version of that" rather than "Hey remember this? Wooo nostalgia!".

Having said that, I sometimes think the popularity of certain artists is attributed to cryptonesia based nostalgia. People wonder where all the early 90's RnB is, but then I look at Ed Sheeran and see him literally covering Blackstreet and people seem to forget that he is early 90s rnb in a different context.


 No.96829

File: 16ac9d5c5339040⋯.jpg (19.32 KB, 351x351, 1:1, 16ac9d5c53390400ab577db4dc….jpg)

>>96805

WHAT IS THIS GARBAGE YOU POSTED?


 No.96835

>>96805

I sure hope not. That period was better than today in certain ways, but I wouldn't say the music was all that good.

>>96823

>by early 1990 most of the 80s were dead and buried

That makes me glad I lived in a smallish town in "flyover country" as a kid and ended up isolated from some of the newer stuff.

>movies went back from kid-friendly to grittier, violent pictures as they were in the 1970s

One thing I've noticed is how there was a certain maturity to kids' or "family" movies then that was lacking in other decades. Compare a movie like The Goonies, which has a lot more profanity (and even a few sexual references) than you'd expect from a movie of that type today. Return to Oz is often considered to be nightmare fuel for younger children. Cloak & Dagger is basically a kids' version of a Hitchcock movie. Everything nowadays seems to be either inoffensively bland and anodyne or completely trashy, with little in between. Back then things seemed to be more frank without being too extreme.

Another thing worth mentioning is the rise of digital synthesizers, starting with Yamaha's release of the DX7 in 1983. People nowadays talk about "that '80s analog sound," but that wasn't even the hip thing for most of the '80s. Digital was seen as the big thing then, and hybrid (or even pretty much fully analog) synths would play up the digital aspects of their designs.

There were some things tying the '80s together as a whole, but people like to ignore how different the second half was from the first.


 No.96836

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>96835

>Another thing worth mentioning is the rise of digital synthesizers, starting with Yamaha's release of the DX7 in 1983

True, also samplers. Just load up any demo of the E-Mu Emax on youtube and it's like listening to a synthwave compilation.


 No.96840

File: 4fe73dcebdea546⋯.png (107.12 KB, 655x289, 655:289, Screenshot-2018-10-17 Colo….png)

>>96835

>That makes me glad I lived in a smallish town in "flyover country" as a kid and ended up isolated from some of the newer stuff.

That's something I've always thought about as an anon from Bongland, and it's an effect I noticed even in my fairly large city during the early 00s. Watching TV with shows set in London or another major city, you'd notice their stuff was a lot more current than yours. Their constructions were all built/renovated using techniques we wouldn't see for a good few years thereafter. Their technologies and facilities, even stuff as inane as bathroom equipment? Likewise. They had silver Nokias while we were still using unwieldy Ericsson and StarTAC units, and even by the time the iPhone 3 came out most people I knew still used a flip phone, mainly those with full physical keyboards. Their cars were rarely more than 5 years old, when ours typically last for 15. A kid growing up in rural China or Russia right now would have more in common with a citydwelling compatriot from the 80s or 90s over one from the present day.

>One thing I've noticed is how there was a certain maturity to kids' or "family" movies then that was lacking in other decades…

From my research into nostalgia I've concluded it's all linked, and primarily to do with the fact that no-one was truly calm in the early-mid 80s. People were worried about AIDS, and they had good reason for it. They thought Russia would nuke their asses to kingdom come any day, and if you have the stomach for it watch When The Wind Blows or its Eastern counterpart both were animated by asians Barefoot Gen sometime. Stranger Danger was becoming a thing. D.A.R.E. was set up in 1983 to stop kids from getting addicted to drugs. The satanic panic which was a legit concern astroturfed by kikes to let them get away with shit like the Finders Cult took off.

The time between the Vietnam war ending/Nixon getting impeached and the wars in Lebanon/Argentina could be considered as a decade all of its own. Progressive rock cemented its position at the top, with the likes of Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin and David Bowie staying at the forefront throughout, from Meddle, IV and Ziggy Stardust to Final Cut, Coda and Let's Dance, and the only way Punk could even compete was if went more Progressive and toned down the angsty shite (i.e. The Police). Of course in the middle of all that you had disco go from an underground craze, to a mainstream powerhouse until the general public couldn't take it any more and destroyed thousands of records in a stadium. In Italy the genre never died, and I'm somewhat glad that Shadilay introduced thousands of anons to a thoroughly-underrated subgenre.

In a way, I guess the "burn brightly/die a hero" philosophy was never truer with the "80s" that everyone and their daughters romanticize over, whether they were even alive to experience them or not. Everyone associates the colors pink and cyan with the 80s, but not many know why. In reality it's simply what people saw when they tried to emulate early DOS and other home computer titles with the "CGA" graphics option enabled but lacking the necessary composite monitor to display them correctly, so instead of getting a blurry, 16 color game with all sorts of greys, greens, reds etc. they just got black, white, pink and cyan eyebleeds.


 No.96844

>>96840

>so instead of getting a blurry, 16 color game with all sorts of greys, greens, reds etc. they just got black, white, pink and cyan eyebleeds

This is the first time I actually heard of this, very insightful. But I would say the pink+cyan combo was present in other media as well, like music videos, TV shows and movies, and it was usually accompanied by neon lights.


 No.97014

File: ac9dea73846f98c⋯.webm (5.28 MB, 540x360, 3:2, At The Store.webm)

>>96805

>Is the 80s revival finally on its way out? I think it's about time the (((music industry))) tried milking a more recent decade, the 80s have been getting milked continuously since the millennium at least

I wouldn't mind all this neo-80's stuff if any of it actually reflected what 80's music sounded like.

So far, I know of only two artists who have accurately captured what music of that era sounded like; Jack Stauber and John Maus.


 No.97025


 No.97026

>>97025

Kino specifically refers to cinema. Lurk /tv/ more retard.


 No.97030

>>97026

it's a meme ya dip


 No.97037

>>97026

>this irony


 No.97038

>>97014

>Jack Stauber

Great taste anon. I love his videos, most vaporware shit only superficially captures this era of western media, but his videos actually legitimately look out of an actual 80s children's TV channel


 No.97041

File: 7c614050dd23f36⋯.mp4 (2.93 MB, 540x360, 3:2, Doctor.mp4)

>>97038

He does i so well because he understands the 80's wasn't just neon lights and synthwave.


 No.97042

>>97041

*Does it


 No.97043

>>97041

>He does i

That's pretty gay fag.


 No.97102

>>97041

>Take three of these a day!

sweet track


 No.97473

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Took three producers to make a generic 90s house track à la Living Joy's Dreamer. Except this one is mastered terribly and sounds overly compressed, while focusing too much on the vocals which are mediocre at best and completely drown the music… In other news, the track got remixed by MK (producer of Push the Feeling On '95 / The Dub of Doom) and he managed to deliver a more authentic, better mastered 90s sound. Still the vocals ruin it though. Not gonna make a separate post for it so here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4guXlYAa6mQ

One thing I noticed is that the song and several other modern EDM songs only has a radio edit, no extended / dub version exists.This is supposed to be played in clubs how? It's barely 4 minutes long.


 No.97480

>>96805

I do like that song, but wasn't she a young girl in 1999?

>>96829

good pop


 No.97481

>>97480

Of course she was. You know anyone who looks to a past decade with pure rose-tinted glasses wasn't actually sentient during that decade. Reminiscing about the 90s because some movie you like was released back then is the epitome of nostalgiafaggotry.


 No.97489

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>96805

I think this is just an XCX thing. Other than the star wars prequels I have a difficult time understanding how late 90s kids are coming up with an identity. 3 decades after the baby boomers there are no longer distinct decades to me.


 No.97490

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>96840

>The satanic panic


 No.97491

>>96844

Save by the bell is probably the most distinct version of this.


 No.97499

>>97473

I wouldn't even realize that one is trying to do the early '90s house thing if it wasn't for the piano part. It's like they weren't even trying.

>>97489

I don't get it either. I feel nostalgia for certain technological and cultural aspects of that era (golden age of computer games, early Internet, TV having not yet jumped the shark, VHS still being in use, the more relaxed culture, etc.), but I don't think the decade as a whole has the kind of far-reaching aesthetic appeal that the '80s have, I actually feel more nostalgia for the '80s than the late '90s, even though I wasn't even alive to experience them. It says a lot when you feel more fondness for things you were exposed to second-hand as a kid than what you actually lived through.

Overall, I think the '90s nostalgia comes across as pretty forced and overblown. It has certain charms, but I somehow doubt that it's a time that future generations will look back to for inspiration to the extent they did with the more boomer-friendly decades. Do non-Millennials really even care about the '90s?


 No.97503

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>97473

>>97473

I'm sorry, that song's supposed to sound like a '90s track? Definitely not. Drumbeat's been in most pop songs for the last 5 years, and it has the "hoo-hoo" No idea what the fuck you call it noise you hear in all modern "uplifting" tracks. Took me a while to track it down, but you hear it a lot in vid related. Whatever that sound is, it gets on my fucking nerves.

>>97490

>2 hours

whoa nigger I ain't watching a documentary. I merely referred to the satanic panic by that name as that's what it's officially recognized as. I believe everything that happened during that time period, or at least the initial cases that prompted the reactions they got were all legitimate.


 No.97504

>>97489

>I have a difficult time understanding how late 90s kids are coming up with an identity

It's not that difficult, I can come up with a few things that shaped the kids of the (late) 90s, mainly related to the "digital boom" and the rapid advance of technology… For example: digital media (CD/DVD) replacing analog media (cassettes/VHS), digital watches / cameras / radios / home appliances becoming commonplace, personal computers and the world wide web becoming accessible to the public, online chatrooms / IRC replacing international phone calls, introduction of 3D graphics in video games, home / portable consoles replacing arcades…etc. Personality-wise I would say 90s kids are optimistic and curious due to seeing how fast the world is changing, but also impulsive and entitled due to life being more accessible for them than their predecessors.

XCX is probably a 00s kid though. I don't think she was old enough to have any considerable memories of the 90s, not even 1999. Check the references in the music video: Titanic (1997), Baby One More Time (1998), The Sims (2000), The Real Slim Shady video (2000). The only references that are actually from 1999 are The Matrix and the "I Want It That Way" video, you can tell the rest was put in for the meme value only and not because it has anything to do with the year 1999.

Also a dead giveaway is her referencing Steve Jobs who's best known for the iPhone and Macbook (late 00s), rather than Bill Gates who's best known for Windows 95 and 98 (late 90s). Classic millennial.


 No.97523

>>97503

>I believe everything that happened during that time period, or at least the initial cases that prompted the reactions they got were all legitimate

lol




[Return][Go to top][Catalog][Nerve Center][Cancer][Post a Reply]
Delete Post [ ]
[]
[ / / / / / / / / / / / / / ] [ dir / arepa / general / imouto / o / sw / tacos / travis2k / vg ]