If you were presented with a piece of music for guitar or piano or otherwise some kind of instrument with different positions, written in musical notation, and are not yet capable of learning by ear, how would you know which position to play in, or when to

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Gastarbeiter 12/12/17 (Tue) 03:05:23 No.89191

If you were presented with a piece of music for guitar or piano or otherwise some kind of instrument with different positions, written in musical notation, and are not yet capable of learning by ear, how would you know which position to play in, or when to switch positions? From what I already know about reading musical notation any given note looks the same on the stave, regardless of position. For instance- a C note is always a C note, anywhere on the instrument but guitar/piano has a whole bunch of C notes. Does the key signature tell you? I take guitar lessons but my teacher doesn't go too much into music theory and I just find sheet music very aesthetically pleasing. If I possessed all possible knowledge of musical notation I'd say "fuck tabs, I'm literally only reading and writing in musical notetation :DDDDDD" but alas, this one question perplexed me greatly.

Gastarbeiter 12/12/17 (Tue) 05:00:10 No.89194

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I'm learning as well, what you're asking is how to determine the octave or pitch of a note, looking that up I found this.

Gastarbeiter 12/12/17 (Tue) 05:04:59 No.89195

>:DDDDDD

Die faggot

To answer your question (which should be in QTDDTOT), what do you mean by positions? If it's a triad, there's only one shape, and its place on the fretboard depends on the strings you're playing it on. If it's 6 notes for guitar music, there's usually only going to be one shape. Use the lowest note to figure out where to start (if they're all seconds or thirds, don't put the lowest note on a low fret, but if it's all fifths, sixths and sevenths it won't matter where you are as long as you have enough strings).

Gastarbeiter 12/12/17 (Tue) 05:13:21 No.89196

>>89194

Fug thought to clarify this as I hit reply. Anyway, in the case that the instrument can play two notes that also have the same octave (for example in standard tuning the fifth fret of the first string on a guitar would play A2 but the second string played open would also play A2) it wouldn't really matter. You'd just use whichever one was the easiest/most comfortable to play, so in a chord whatever allows for the most comfortable hand position, and as an individual note whichever one requires the least movement distance between the note before and after the one you're playing.

Gastarbeiter 12/12/17 (Tue) 20:40:56 No.89210

>>89194

So, what that picture is essentiallessentially saying, the higher/lower you go in pitch, you'll just keep adding ledger lines?

Gastarbeiter 12/13/17 (Wed) 02:45:42 No.89216

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>>89210

Yes technically, but it's very ugly and hard to read, so there is sheet music notation that means "play this an octave higher" so all the notes can stay together.

Gastarbeiter 12/13/17 (Wed) 18:32:34 No.89223

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>>89210

>>89216

Or if everything is too high to be convenient, use this clef. It basically says treble clef but it's octave higher.

Gastarbeiter 12/13/17 (Wed) 23:52:43 No.89236

>>89196

By positions, I mean an instrument where your hand can't cover all the notes or keys. Like how first position on the guitar is your first finger on the first fret and you have all those 21 more frets open. As apposed to a much smaller instrument like violin or trumpet where your hand can cover every note. Or idk cuz I don't play violin or trumpet :/

Gastarbeiter 12/14/17 (Thu) 14:53:56 No.89254

>>89236

I get what you mean; if you have enough range you can just play everything an octave lower. You could even transpose down by any other interval; with equal temperament it doesn't matter.

Option two would be to move just the part around the note that goes too high an octave down.

Third option: try to find out to which chord that note corresponds, and move the entire phrase down by one grade in chord, so for example if you got a G that goes up too high in C major you can lower it to E or C, and correspondingly move all notes. It will sound different but you preserve the essence.