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8ed888 (1) No.314514>>314516 >>314738 >>316282 >>317381 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

In this thread we will discuss CYOA's. What makes them good, already complete CYOA's, current CYOA's and how to improve them if you so choose and in general, things like that. I'll start us off with a topic, but don't be afraid to branch off if you feel like it.

What are some of the best CYOA's on /monster/? And what makes them so good? And do we have archive links to them?

af9ad1 (1) No.314516

>>314514 (OP)

First, nice id m8.

What makes a good CYOA is one that dosen't let anons decide on everything. Height, weight, etc. will only delay the decision with arguing.

You have to give the anons choice, but don't give them too much. It's a delicate balance.


b9aeb5 (4) No.314738

>>314514 (OP)

My two cents: run it consistently. So if you're writing something and running it like Wizardquest? Don't tell /monster/ they can let their autism run wild … only to turn around going "nope" to suggestions after an entry for arbitrary reasons.

Make sure that you explain things to /monster/ if your magical realm contains rules that aren't a part of the collective headcanon of the board. Child of the Australs is a good example of what you should be doing in regard to answering questions.

Have a cutoff in terms of time for decisions, and keep to it. So if you want to wait say …. a day before closing off the ability to choose then you need to stick to that. I'd recommend posting and saying "anything beyond this isn't accepted" just so that you're on the level with the readers.

TL;DR: good CYOA management boils down to: say what you do, then do what you say


f2d4dd (3) No.314891>>317226

One thing that I've noticed is that unless there's a clear goal of "defeat the BBEG and start a family with the waifu of choice right after", I start to lose interest in participating in the story after a few threads because to me it seems like the story isn't going anywhere. Having a clear end point of "stop the BBEG before he does X" is good because it gives the readers something to accomplish (in addition to dicking the waifu). This could be different for others though, so keep that in mind.

An alternative to that point is plan only for the final confrontation with the BBEG (or at least who the BBEG is and what they're trying to do), because the readers WILL suggest the MC go fuck off and do something nonsensical that in no way has any relation to the main plot.


609af9 (1) No.314900

Cathy anon here, on break at work and saw this thread. I'm interested to see what people think of the way I conduct my own cyoa, mostly in the types of options and how I handle the voting. Usually i count up the votes and try to incorporate the ones that get the most votes, example: A gets 5 votes and D gets 6, I would still find a way to incorporate both choices. I also want to see how other people would handle their own cyoa


a56b1a (1) No.315212

Tefpuz here. I would also appeciate feedback on anything and everything CYOA related.

Generally how I handle voting is that I will try to make every suggestion work in the next scene. However if suggestions are contested it must have more support to go through. The only issue I have is sometimes it's difficult to make everything fit into one scene, but should make it feel like everyone is contributing to the game.


d3fe78 (1) No.316282

>>314514 (OP)

Bump with content:

It's an old work I wrote when /tg/ was cool with CYOAs and before discovering /monster/, so expect some stuff to not be JUSTICE in there.

I don't think I'm gonna start anything with this anytime soon, but if anyone can get some inspiration from it, I'll be glad.


a0a783 (1) No.317162>>317253

My two cents is that you should always make the choices in a CYOA clear but still ambiguous, something that has to make the anons remember that a choice has actions that cannot always be seen immdiently.


7fda76 (1) No.317180

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Conquest of Verona guy here. I don't think I take my own cyoa seriously enough, mostly working on it when I feel like and publishing the same way. I do care about quality though and would like feedback on not just how I handle my communication, worldbuilding, all that, but the quality of my writing itself.


1ebb2c (1) No.317226>>317227

>>314891

>An alternative to that point is plan only for the final confrontation with the BBEG (or at least who the BBEG is and what they're trying to do), because the readers WILL suggest the MC go fuck off and do something nonsensical that in no way has any relation to the main plot.

Reminds me of an anon greentexting about a campain he ran irl where a female instantly dediced to abandon the main quest because gay marraige wasn't a thing in that world.

it ended up a decent campain and said female eventually got elected leader of a new, democratic union. Her first act was to sign gay marrage into law.

Or it woud have been, because in that moment the undead army the BBEG Lich had raised with his ritual attacked and everyone died.

Moral being that the world doesn't just extist whereever the Hero/party/whatever is.


f2d4dd (3) No.317227

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>>317226

not quite the "lich-kills-everyone-because-gays" because it's "orcs-kill-everyone-because-gays", but it's more or less the same


b9aeb5 (4) No.317253

>>317162

Agree with only part of this. Clear choices good, putting ambgiuity in them is not.

The choices /monster/ sees need to be clear cut, and free from any ambiguity. They do also need to have immediate, clear cut consequences be they good or bad. It should also be relatively easy for /monster/ to figure out immediate consequences as well. MC wants to stand naked in the middle of a street in hellhound town yelling "you can't rape what you can't catch!"?

Anything else you touch on is for the DM to deal with, such as consequences that don't have immediate effect. On its head this is solid, you can't go for dinner with a MG at south end of a city if /monster/'s choices mean he's unavailable that night. And as long as /monster/ received fair warning then letting them choose the option that led MC to being unavailable should be followed through on. In practice: "If you take the shortcut home you might run into a traffic jam" might've been the choice offered. There's clear consequences both positive and negative, and there's the 'hidden' consequence of not meeting with that lovely lamia you met the other day. Not the most complex example but it should get the point across.


d8b2ce (1) No.317343

A tip for current/future CYOA authors, always keep a notepad file or something to keep track of the story and the choices that the anons made. It can help you write in a certain direction, or just remember what your audience is prone to voting for.


ee0cd1 (1) No.317347>>317356

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So we never got to Cuddle?


10df8c (1) No.317356>>317359

>>317347

Why do almost all of waifu's CYOAs have to die? It's painful for fuck's sake


f75174 (1) No.317359

>>317356

Because she never finishes them, whether they be here or anywhere else on the internet. She has a short attention span.


0b3c83 (1) No.317379

I've been away for half a year. Do any of y'all have archive links to any of the cyoa's I missed? Would be a shame if all of those stories were lost to time.


637ed8 (2) No.317381>>317387 >>317402 >>317427 >>317560 >>317581 >>318242

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>>314514 (OP)

1. Have a clear goal

2. Transmit that clear goal of yours to everybody, directly or not

3. Don't bloat up your party with a whole harem of party members

4. NO FILLERS, nobody likes to be on a fucking boat for 10 years only to get into more filler right afterwards

5. Avoid convoluted inventory systems

6. Write down some magical theories and your setting's theology (if applicable); nobody likes to magically zap and fry stuff without knowing the why's because lol it's magic u shouldn't explain it. Same goes for your setting's otherworldly beings, give some flavor to your imaginary guy in the sky.

7. Avoid stupidly long updates, seriously.

8. Don't railroad, but don't let the anons decide MC's every move; there's gotta be a compromise between the two

9. Interactions between secondary characters. Seriously make your secondary characters talk to each other every once in a while, your MC shouldn't be the center of the world in which every conversation is directed to him.

10. Don't be edgy on purpose, if you're killing/sacrificing a character, don't do it just because a la game of throne, give a reason behind the sacrifice and give others motives and reasons to avenge their deaths. Same goes for other dark topics, do it well not a boring 'xdddddd she got raped as a child so she's now a serial rapist, watch out!'

11. Try and get some art for your ambiance/characters, bonus points if it's made by yourself.

12. If you're adding monsterboyim because you think a mono-gendered race solely comprised of female elves is silly, MAKE THEM STRICTLY BACKGROUND CHARACTERS WITH LITTLE TO NO IMPACT ON THE PLOT. Seriously, otherwise you're gonna trigger some thin-skinned faggots. Fuck, this board's supposed to be about MONSTERGIRLS, having a monsterboy play a major role is gay af bruh. No gay shit.

13. Actually finish your CYOA


aa040d (3) No.317387>>317388

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>>317381

This is good advice.


aa040d (3) No.317388

>>317387

Didn't mean to namefag.


b44383 (8) No.317395>>317396 >>317401 >>317402 >>317415 >>317427

How do I get the motivation to finish or continue CYOAs? Or at least break out of my usual cycle of start a CYOA, get some of it done, put it on hold due to real life stuff, lose motivation, then delete all my work and abandon it after becoming depressed and self-hating?

>tfw have about 10 or so CYOAs over the last few years that i've given up this way


aa040d (3) No.317396>>317397 >>317400

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>>317395

Don't delete it when you feel like not finishing it, you don't know when you'll ever want to continue it and with a good summary you could. About the self-hatred, why are you becoming depressed about a Vietnamese image board? It's not like you lose anything for that, in fact you should take the criticism and learn from it to improve yourself, you faggot.


b44383 (8) No.317397

>>317396

I don't get depression and self-hatred from imageboards. Rather I had some other real life stuff make me feel like shit, then I end up going around and deleting all my writefaggotry.


b44383 (8) No.317400

>>317396

Damnit, replied too soon. Anyway, I need to find a way to not have happen when I eventually try again at a CYOA. Any tips.

Feels bad watching yourself decline from a CYOA that lasted multiple threads to some that barely last a few posts before calling it quits.


eeb97a (1) No.317401>>317420

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>>317395

So far I've been trying to post as often as I can, usually giving it a day or so for people to vote (given no real life stuff gets in the way like you said, it happens to everyone). It's okay to take a break every now and then, I've found, as long as you let participants know in advance. I've not technically finished a CYOA myself, but what keeps me motivated right now to do so is that it's fun. I think you just need to find a way to make it fun for yourself and not take it so seriously.

Also, take some enjoyment from your participants. Get them to engage more even if it's just shitposting. I treasure these shitpost images and I hope you can start collecting your own.


79b774 (2) No.317402>>317412 >>317415

Kind of a tricky question, but how would one go about getting readers to surprise him?

I think I might have this bad habit of presenting only one of the possible choices and accidentally running this rail-shooter type of stories. I don't know how bad it is since anons appear to like it, but for me it just turns into this monotonous delayed story writing where you know everything that is going to happen, but you still need to wait for replies, so I end up losing interest in my own story and never finishing it.

I haven't written lately so I don't have any examples, but it's something like "you see two paths, one to the left and one to the right" with the right path being the sort of 'default' one. I want anons to have fun with my story like "fuck paths, go straight through the middle" or at least pick the non obvious choice.

>>317381

>13. Actually finish your CYOA

>>317395

I've only ever finished one storyrushed ending and not even a CYOA, so I might not be the best person to say this, but anyway.

My best guess would be forcing yourself to write daily. You need to get yourself into the habit and writ, even if only a paragraph on the shittiest day, but write daily. That should get you into writing enough to get motivated for CYOA and the like, or at least make you get less depressed and only hate yourself for non-hobby related stuff.


c14bf4 (2) No.317412>>317414

>>317402

Which story was it


79b774 (2) No.317414

>>317412

I don't even think I named it.

The one with the paladindu and the familiar loli.

I was doing a CYOA at the time, so I wanted to end it and focus on the CYOA. I had this idea for the ending with implied sex, the paladindu naming the unnamed girl and the classic corny but good "I love you" ending.

The idea for the ending wasn't that bad, but I had no idea how to get to it, so I just rammed it in there out of nowhere and rushed it even more. I didn't even finish the CYOA in the end


637ed8 (2) No.317415

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>>317402

Yeah it's been about 8 months since I decided to stop mine because I'm a fucking faggot who didn't plan shit through and I fucked up waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many times. I'm extremely bitter about it, it's like that one mentally retarded child you're stuck with because selling off your kids is illegal.

>>317395

Do what this faggot says >>317402, a CYOA, and writing in general, is like lifting. You might hate it, you may think it's boring sometimes and some days you might not even want to write anything at all; make it a habit. It doesn't matter if it's literally 5 words, just write something down, give people an update THAT'S NOT FUCKING FILLER. Advance the fucking plot for dog's sake.

>b-but anon why do i have to keep doing something i dislike?

Well don't you wanna continue your CYOA? Why did you make one in the first place huh?

If you can't handle it, you might as well step away from it, why continue?

Also don't delete your shit, it's stupid. You never know when it might come in handy.


02d8e9 (1) No.317420

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>>317401

>tfw I can say "Hey those are my shitposts"


b44383 (8) No.317426>>317455 >>317511 >>317602

>Also don't delete your shit, it's stupid. You never know when it might come in handy.

Tell me about it. There are times where I regret it when I think back to some of my more interesting ones. I still kinda remember a few of them.

>You're a delinquent with some JJBA themes. Used to be well enjoyed here with lots of smut. Not current /monster/ approved since you fucked most of your teachers, another delinquent girl, and your harpy gf.

>You're a lizardgirl medic in a western/STALKER adventure to get rich by stalkan.

>You're an ex-paratrooper in another post-apocalypse/STALKER setting sent to investigate a city for some lost project.

>A cyberpunk adventure that quickly got out of hand in a bar.

>You're working for a local mafia and get your shit wrecked later.

>You're a murderhobo who struck out to get rich.

I doubt i'll find notes for any of those and the old 8chan archives are long dead. Waiting for my current real life stuff to end before I try something again,


36b384 (1) No.317427

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I've completed two CYOA's and while I understand they aren't everyone's up of tea, I feel like I can at least talk about some of these.

>>317381

1. Yes, definitely.

2. Even if it forms later in the story, it shouldn't be toooo much later or things get a little hectic. Barbarianquest sort of had some issues with this, but it got focused later.

3. This… is pretty sound advice, one I ended up failing with. I curse my background in epic fantasies.

4. Filler can be fine if it fits into a greater whole. There is something to be said for short and sweet though.

5.I would say abolish them but a lot of people here have a very /tg/ background and love that sort of thing. Though it's always neat when the players remind you of something in the list that you forgot about.

6. It's fun to invent stuff! You can't have everything thought out though, a basic guideline will work because someone will say something you didn't think of and you'll have to say or no anyway.

7. (sweating)

8. Focus on the goal. If it's enticing or threatening enough, they'll go toward it.

9. Yes! Depending on your story, it's often from the PoV of the MC but writing interactions between characters that the MC notices is fun and adds flavor.

10. Death should serve a purpose. Sometimes that purpose is because the readers fucked up really bad, (see Warriorquest)

11. Art is fun an addicting.

12. While I agree with the basis of this, MB's can be fine- See "Tusktaker" by Orzh I think. There's an MB there who is common but isn't the focus.

13. Seriously, I cannot stress this enough. Even if you feel bad about it, finishing it will be so much more rewarding than regretting it.

>>317395

This is my addition to that. How you manage to keep going and finish a CYOA is dependent on you having discipline. You may think that's a meme, but you need to set yourself to write at specific intervals. For some people it's every other day, for others it's once a week, whatever. Readers love consistency/ updates regardless and will drop stories (unless it's Dragon bully) if you vanish without word for long periods of time. At least talk with people, even if it's to say, "Sorry, no update!" I don't know, maybe some people find it annoying but it's at least letting them know you're not dead.

Keeping with the always write at specific times, it keeps you focused on the goal. A lot of people get burned out when they get maybe one or two replies, but when it's time to write just say fuck it take what you have. I've felt multiple times the urge to just stop but then I tell myself, "You need to finish this, even if no one is reading, you need to finish this for yourself."

The more you write and the more confident you are in your writing, the better it will be in time. Everyone has their own style in writing CYOA's whether it's more or less freedom for the readers, or whether it's fairly wing it vs. planning everything from start to finish. In the end, well, pic related.


f8a84f (1) No.317455>>317693

>>317426

>You're a lizardgirl medic in a western/STALKER adventure to get rich by stalkan.

I remember that cyoa, I never got to read it alldue to being too busy at the time and the last part I recall of the story was the lizardgirl leaving with her stalker buddy to the zone.


f2d4dd (3) No.317511>>317585

>>317426

>You're a delinquent with some JJBA themes. Used to be well enjoyed here with lots of smut.

I still got all of the archives for that story saved


b9aeb5 (4) No.317560

>>317381

Actually, time to check against this list for shits and giggles.

1. very clear

2. I'd like to think I am

3. No bloating for sure

4. the amount of plot delivered in my entries will vary with /monster/'s choices, but I do make an effort to give (hopefully) info for /monster/ to decide what to do next

5. No, no convoluted inventory systems here

6. I will give explanations of my meta if asked, and will only withhold info if it would allow power gaming

7. 2k ish words per update seems reasonable enough

8. I have a good handle on that

9. Not a lot of other characters interacting, but that's equal parts of both me as well as /monster/'s choices. will add more in future if it's reasonable

10. No sharp edges here

11. With what shekels? I'm broke as fuck

12. No way will that kind of heresy find its way into mine, my story is enough heresy as it is

13. Made mine short so that it can be finished before the 5648746th CYOA thread as it were.


bb46a6 (1) No.317581

>>317381

Exception to rule 12: MC is a elf for whatever reason.


b44383 (8) No.317585>>317586

>>317511

Oh wow, I thought that was gone for good. I doubt it's /monster/ approved now, though. I might have to look around to see if I might have anything I haven't deleted.


c14bf4 (2) No.317586>>317588

>>317585

Why wouldn't it be monster approved now?


b44383 (8) No.317588>>317589

>>317586

Because the main character has sex with almost every woman in the story, including having his harpy girlfriend join in with him. Not very monogamous at all.


a15cd6 (1) No.317589>>317602

>>317588

/monster/ has a few haremfags that could enjoy it. Very, very few.


c9699c (1) No.317602>>317635

>>317426

Oh hey you're tabletop guy. You inspired me to write some of my more famous CYOAS.

>>317589

More than you may think.


b44383 (8) No.317635>>317672

>>317602

Oh? Which ones?


8680e7 (1) No.317672>>317693

>>317635

Alraunequest mostly


b44383 (8) No.317693

>>317672

Oh hey, I remember those. Man, it's been a while. Do you still have those saved?

>>317455

If you're still interested, I managed to find an archive of that thread. I feel like some of it is missing, though.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150821014736/https://8ch.net/monster/res/67613.html

Hell, i'm thinking of rebooting that CYOA after I take care of some stuff IRL. Wondering whether to continue where I left off or just keep Sasha and run a new story.


115c75 (2) No.318242>>318245 >>318260

>>317381

>7. Avoid stupidly long updates, seriously.

I'm actually curious about this one. What would be considered stupidly long? Updates in most CYOAs generally tend to come in every few days at the low end aside from when they first start, where they tend to update more often to help pick up steam from what I've seen, so I've never found having a bit of reading to do a bad thing.

Ace, slavsan, and Resonant Drunk generally post what I'd call "long" updates, though I think the longest update I can conveniently recall was an 11 post update from Tefpuz for the Fantasy CYOA, and I found that all of those were fine, since they were addressing relevant story content. I guess in the end, what I'm thinking is that the length of an update doesn't matter too much as long is it isn't needlessly long, adding words without covering anything relevant.


115c75 (2) No.318245

>>318242

As a side note, it occurred to me after I posted that, that the Ace, slavsan and RD don't let players roll for actions, meaning fewer breaks are needed to continue with the story until presented with the next >What do.


a2d4ab (1) No.318256>>318258

I've been designing a CYOA for about a week, but I've been thinking there are too many going on right now and mine will just get overlooked, should I just finish it and start posting or wait a few more weeks?


bf3743 (1) No.318258

>>318256

I say go for it, the others aren’t going to end any time soon so its good to get it out there if its ready.


b9aeb5 (4) No.318260

>>318242

Ace and RD don't post updates that feel long, that's the thing. They have a fair bit going into those entries, but it's relevant to what /monster/ asks for. They also attempt to move the plot along every major entry as well so that helps out in the "doesn't feel long" department. Since moving the plot depends partially on what /monster/ wants if the stories are moving at a slow pace then it's not entirely their fault. If you were to pick "stick your dick in every monster you see" when the choice was presented it's going to stretch things out hue more than going for a safer option as it were.

I think the takeaway is "don't over-write for entries". Look at how short Cathy anon's entries are. They work well, and the gargoyle CYOA would likely fall flat on its face if it were trying to be the next lord of the rings.


192bad (1) No.320669>>322442 >>323104

I want to ask what /monster/ considers to be some of the best and some of the worst CYOA's on /monster/. ongoing or finished What would some recommend, what would some say to avoid?


5133bd (2) No.322442

>>320669

I can't find one which I trully despised, I could say it was boring or simple not my thing but never something I would call bad. Three CYOA which I liked were The guy who babysitted monsters, warrior quest and Cleric Quest. Its a pity they died.


0c9314 (1) No.322475>>322564

So for a while now I've been wanting to start a somewhat simple CYOA, where the protagonist is at a music festival, the goal being to find a waifu at the end of the four day event. Now I'm not sure if just that is enough to keep readers interested, or if I should try to shoehorn in some sort of conflict. What do you all think?


5133bd (2) No.322564

>>322475

The premise sounds cool, if you do decide to make a conflict make it as close to the main plot as possible, like something or someone is trying to disrupt the festival and the MC must find the cause or the culprit so he might get laid.


86ce3e (1) No.323104

>>320669

"The guy who babysat monsters". You couldn't possibly be talking about mine, could you? I really should get back to redoing that CYOA now that I'm not living on the side of the street, but I am working two full time jobs, so my schedule is cluttered.


863174 (1) No.324276

As a kommando I just want more hidden man damnit. The cheeki breeki life is for me.




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