8ec781 No.289731
As we all know on here, /monster/
thrives on OC
And while we have a good collection of stories and CYOA's, we are seriously lacking in the department of drawfags.
Too many post in the drawthread and its general flooded with requests, and we simply don't have enough artists to do them.
Hence why I am (re)making this thread: To not only help the people who want to learn how to draw, but also how them get better at it.
This thread will be for posting tutorials, hints, tips, and critiques of your art work. I will be posting several very handy places and resources you can use.
If anyone finds any other tutorials, specifically on drawing actual monster girls, feel free to share. The whole point of this thread is to help people create
more OC
and art to help /monster/ thrive
Learning How To Draw:
>http://8ch.net/loomis/hub.html
A perfect guide for tutorials and helpful tips.
>http://8ch.net/loomis/
A wonderful board here on 8chan. Many threads have useful tips and tutorials to help you out.
http://drawabox.com/
it'll teach you the fundamentals.
!!FUNDAMENTALS ARE IMPORTANT!!
common digital tools
>Krita
> is good and free.
>Sai
> is cheap and has a hard focus on 'just draw, nigga!' with an easy to use UI but its very basic on features.
>Manga/Clip Studio
> is like sai but has more features
>Photoshop
> is the industry standard but has too many features and is kinda bloated
Other Useful links
>https://www.youtube.com/user/DrawWithJazza
A fantastic artist on Youtube with great insight into how to draw and even how to learn shading, coloring, and other useful drawing techniques. Most of his art is western based.
>http://kukuruyo.com/
Many of you know him as an artist who drew a lot for GamerGate, but he's mostly known for his Monster Girl comic series. No real tutorials, but its a perfect inspiration place for you.
>http://fuckyeahmonstergirls.tumblr.com
Mostly just reblogs things from other artists. However it is still a great collection of monster girl art.
https://www.goodreads.com/ebooks/download/147941.Figure_Drawing_for_All_It_s_Worth
http://www.posemaniacs.com/randompose
random poses
http://www.learning-to-see.co.uk/effective-practice
drawing references
http://www.drawingreferences.com/
books!:
http://www.alexhays.com/loomis/
http://www.pdf-archive.com/2013/10/01/norling-perspective-made-easy/norling-perspective-made-easy.pdf
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8ec781 No.289734
>Start in traditional. It's a lot easier to get a good grasp of (here's a word you're gonna learn to hate)
fundamentals
There's an immediate feedback in drawing traditionally, as it's very direct and you can feel the medium in your hand. It's less forgiving, certainly, but that'll teach you to plan your strokes.
Speaking of traditional media, draw in everything you can. Graphite, Charcoal, Paint, Ink, Markers, Crayons, everything. Experiment and find out what you like.
if your getting into digital you need to know, is costly be sure you know what you're getting, don't be afraid to ask around, and browse the net for products that are in your price range, set a budget and stick to it
if you're just starting out you don't need a $1500 tablet, and its recommended you don't move to digital unill you've gotten a good grasp on
fundamentals
How do you keep going if whatever you draw disgusts you enough to want to quit?
>Just believe you can do it. I feel the same way when i try to draw, try telling yourself i know i can make this good. Repeat it if you have to. Just dont give up. Do it for yourself. Do it for your waifu
>What you see and what the public perceives, are entirely different matters. You might be unsatisfied with your skills, nitpicking everything and strive to get better. I'm a beast-like retarded midget who can't avoid soiling his pants whenever I try to talk, and the drawings look good enough, or at least I see they keep getting better.
>think about it like this; you may not like what you see, but remember that literally every artist ever had to start in the same position you're in right now. if you want it to look better, then just keep at it mate. you're always improving even if you don't see it; plus, remember that one man's trash is another man's treasure. you might not like your work, but someone else out there might look at it and think "huh, that's pretty cool."
dont sweat the small details right away. just draw what makes you happy and see where you can go with it.
>You should be doing more then just line drawing, It helps with straightening, but you should also be trying to some circle and cube drawings.
>Don't be afraid to start drawing something else either, like eyes, noses and fingers.
>start with basic shapes and add details later
8ec781 No.289735
As for practice, figure drawing is usually the go-to for people starting out, so I'll provide some of those.
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/
https://www.pinterest.com/explore/drawing-exercises/
posted already but for real
http://drawabox.com/
google is your friend
words of encouragement
>JUST DRAW NIGGA
>You cant suddenly do a 5k and expect to be in first place. Focus on basics then style then speed.
>keep at it don't give up, you
CAN
>DO IT
hating yourself is pretty standard for drawing, right?
>So says every artist I've met, yet. I think the trick is to find that
sweetspot
>between never being satisfied with your current skill and being able to live with your own faults as an artist.
>its going to be hard, but even if you feel like everything you make is shit and its not worth the time or effort,
keep on going, every artist has, and does have, that same feeling
>drawing is a tedious craft my man. it's a talent honed through lots of blood, sweat and tears and the occasional self-loathing.
but
you'll get better, believe me. we all had to start somewhere.
788b75 No.289777
2c0595 No.289895
Anything for absolute beginners?
766fa4 No.289897
>>289895
Buy a pen and some paper.
8ec781 No.289899
>>289895
Buy a pencil and a sketch book and watch the
>basic hand eye control
Video in the second post
Then just start drawing
If you start to feel bad read the last post
82e9bd No.289963
Does anybody have any arm muscle references that make sense?
I swear to god I can't tell the difference between the brachialis and the
triceps from the frontal view and its driving me absolutely fucking insane
Maybe I'm just autistic
8ec781 No.289968
8ec781 No.289969
http://www.drawingreferences.com/
this should of been in the OP sorry guys
788b75 No.290068
My bodies now look more humanoid and I managed to make a XX type face, so I guess I'm progressing.
fee633 No.290159
>>289731
I recommend anons sign up to https://www.cgpeers.com/ (registrations open ~every 1st and 15th of the month) and download video tutorial series by Vilppu, Proko and Eric Olson.
There're a lot of other goodies you can get off there too, everything's freeleech from what I can see.
Also, crossboard link works like so:
>>>/loomis/
>>>/art/
>>>/ani/
4eedeb No.290321
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Just a reminder:
Never forget about drawing fundamentals.
Mark's Drawing Tutorials help a lot despite being long. Some of his old videos still hold up.
774cf1 No.290360
Reminder that sometimes you need to break the rules and fundamentals, especially if you're drawing in anime style
92032f No.291126
>>290360
Reminder that you need to know the basic rules before you can break them
If not you end up creating utter shit.
06fdca No.291500
>>288939
I tried. Hope it isnt too bad.
d9364b No.291562
I made this
excuse the shitty colors
421b18 No.291581
If some one wants to draw it, a Dullahan on the back of a nightmare
13e9c5 No.291622
Here's my first attempt at drawing a hellhound. I was originally gonna have her paws behind her back, but I thought I'd make an attempt to draw them, so that's why she's holding her belly.
70e5f8 No.291694
>>291622
You need Loomis. There's a lot of symbol drawing that's going on around here.
82e9bd No.291725
Been working on anatomy a lot recently
Are there any particular blaring inaccuracies
here? Or anything in general that just looks bad?
13e9c5 No.291740
>>291694
What's symbol drawing?
3431fb No.291838
>>290159
cgpeers is also a great place to get tools like photoshop (I recommend the portable version of CS6) and Paint Tool Sai. Of course, most of us are too early on to be worrying about digital yet.
One thing I'd recommend if you're having trouble pushing yourself to get started is the attached book called You Can Draw In 30 Days, which gives you a series of exercises to do over the course of (obviously) thirty days. It's all basic stuff but I found it's a good starting off point for an absolute beginner before moving on to Loomis or the like.
4e60ed No.291843
I found a super nice little thing for uper scrubs
https://design.tutsplus.com/articles/i-want-to-draw-simple-exercises-for-complete-beginners--vector-20583
Work on then fundamentals guys lets all work hard to make more oc!
Also junes mission/assignment because we need goals and stuff to work on to get better
Draw Ammit!
95849e No.291906
>>291904
You've definitely got talent.
3dc410 No.291908
>>291906
That warmed me anon, thanks.
3dc410 No.291929
>>291904
Decided to do another because front pose a boring. Wip
2ef760 No.291930
>>291924
>>291929
Those are really cute anon.
I wish I could draw like this but university takes so much of my free time
ca3519 No.292129
I'm just getting started. Haven't drawn since I was about 13. Bought an intous and jumped in the deep end, watched a shit ton of videos and made my first 3 pieces. Feedback is appreciated!
ca3519 No.292130
>>292129
current wip, not MG related but Im trying out new ways to do shadow. The tits are awful and Im going to have to redo them, but I think the feet came out ok and thats the focal point.
4e0c2d No.292183
>>292130
Why does she wear the mask?
904eb0 No.292189
>>292129
if you have a tablet, dont rely on the vector tool as a crutch, it makes the balance issues you have very apparent (the lines dont have the same angle)
32b688 No.292206
>>291939
>>289731
I'm out of practice, lets do some basics and…oh. I liked that fairy, but at least it was spared. Gotta work on faces more as even when i get a decent pose going it puts gorgons to shame. I just want to draw some qt goats.
76356c No.292239
>>292206
That's not a bad joker anon.you could certainly do far worse so dont sell yourself so short.
>>292183
Perhaps she's wondering why you haven't started drawing yet.
82e9bd No.292577
>>292183
Because nobody cared who she was till she put it
on
e1441e No.293201
>Just started my journey into gitting gud and already feel overwhelmed
I have the equipment, but I don't understand when I'll be able to say I can move onto the next concept. I'm following the rough outline of the Cirno guide in OP and watching some videos (that one guy is really great) and I'm practicing making straight lines and shit but when do I know when I can move on?
525bda No.293219
>>293201
When you can make a cube thats not wibbly
32b688 No.293238
>>293201
Just keep going anon, I am also struggling but I've practiced more in this last week than the last few months combined so things are looking up.
88434a No.293566
88434a No.293569
>>293201
Similar situation to you.
I just kinda started something else,saw from various sources that the improvement from the line exercise is very gradual, so you'll waste a lot of time if you stay there.
I'm starting 'perspective and anatomy, and constantly doing line exercises and shit as warm up and in between.
I can do some okay elipses.
e1441e No.293614
>>293219
>>293238
Noted
Also, any vertical line exercises? Holy fuck I can't do them
32b688 No.293618
>>293614
Just keep doing them.
e1441e No.293645
>>293618
Is there technique? I feel like I'm doing something wrong big time. I hear people say "Move your shoulder" but I don't see how that helps, or if I'm moving it wrong
def3e1 No.293648
Yo someone should host a /monster/ drawpile. So we can all draw together.
https://drawpile.net/
32b688 No.293650
>>293648
Started one called /monster/ try joining.
ba4bc0 No.293652
>>293645
They're probably referring to using the bigger arc that your shoulder has instead of the much smaller arc of your wrist. As such, rather than using your wrist to move your hand, use your shoulder to move your whole arm when drawing lines because then you don't need to adjust for the curve of your arm nearly as much thus leading to the line being much straighter.
The line lessons here http://drawabox.com/lesson/1 go into more detail.
c9fb64 No.293658
>>293566
Try reading perspective made easy. It's a pretty good book, easy to find too.
>>293648
That seems fun. I'll probably join in by the weekend fuck up real bad and leave.
32b688 No.293659
>>293650
>>293658
Will try again then, maybe friday night.
def3e1 No.293667
>>293659
I'm down with that idea, are you gonna put a password or not?
904eb0 No.293700
>>293659
"friday night" in what timezone
32b688 No.293914
Anyone down to try the drawpile in 2 hours or so?
88434a No.293917
>>293914
Yeah, sure, I'll collaborate with some sub-par tracing.
e2718d No.293933
>>293921
No. What the fuck even is that?
32b688 No.293940
Alright lets see if this will work.
Room code: IRKBV
def3e1 No.293952
def3e1 No.293955
>>293940
I dont think it worked
88434a No.293956
>>293955
i joined and its fine my man, what did you click?
def3e1 No.293957
>>293956
Oh whats the name of the server?
88434a No.293958
>>293957
IRKBV or 70.24.76.217
def3e1 No.293959
32b688 No.293973
Well that was kinda fun, was hoping for a better turnout but I'm more than willing to host again same time next week.
97e76c No.294051
>>292130
>>292129
This newdrawfag here again.
Still practicing. Attempted watercolor for the first time with this Ahri drawing. Much better than my last foot one I feel. Other ones are not board related but I wanted to show more progress stuff.
I ordered a cintiq because after only 2 weeks of using the intuos I'm sick of the disconnect and fucking up my lines so much from it. My line work is way better on paper, so I know having the cintiq will help a ton, and make me a lot faster if nothing else.
I'll probably hop in the request thread/draw more MGs for you guys when I feel a little more confident and my line work isn't trash.
Feedback from my senpais and other newfags alike is welcome and appreciated.
972dcd No.294060
Newfag here, and here's my very flat colored Wyvern. Now if you'll excuse me I'll be drinking Clorox bleach.
97e76c No.294062
>>294060
looks nice to me anon, your lines are way cleaner than mine. literally the only thing I can notice bad is the shoulders feet a little big. Everything else looks good to this newfag.
972dcd No.294063
>>294062
Thanks. The only thing I can't advance into are the shading and rendering crap. Other than that I can only lurk for now :c
7046fd No.294188
>>294051
I think the main criticism I can make is that your lines are too wobbly, as if you're drawing from the wrist or perhaps moving your hand too slowly. The appeal of girls is their soft smooth curves. Aside from that, I see what you're aiming for with the variation in line thickness and it's good that you've got that in mind. There are some flaws, such as the overall outline of the girl's body (minus the tails) in pic one being really thick. This serves to separate her from her surroundings too much. Watch out for situations like her right calf, where the line of the calf is strong but as it travels down it gets thinner, even though that part of the body is getting closer to the eye of the viewer.
The secondary thing is that when it comes to shading and highlighting, the stuff you're doing does not depict the 3D form of the subject. I'll try to unpack that: the configuration of lighting and object surface shape that would result in the viewer seeing what he sees in, say, the fourth picture, just does not come across as realistic or even resulting from a physically possible arrangement of objects and light sources. It's hard to single out all the particular characteristics of the image give this impression, but one example are the heels of the feet. They don't look round, they look like they're embossed into a flat piece of metal.
To say something more concrete, I think it's better to practise shading with traditional art rather than digital. This is because when you're learning to understand how to render shadow on 3D forms (as well as other fundamentals of drawing), all the technical details of the digital medium only get in your way. How big is your tablet's drawing area? What's the hardware pressure response curve, and how many discrete levels of pressure does your tablet register? Have you got the most up-to-date drivers for your device? How did you set the hardness, opacity, and size of the brush tool in photoshop? Blah blah blah. Fuck it all, just use a pencil and paper. Or a pen instead of a pencil, as a pen gives you two discrete brightness levels, black ink and white paper, simplifying things even more.
Thirdly, the characters (especially in first and second pic) look a bit flat. The tails don't seem like they're receding into the distance enough, and they come across more like 2D cutouts than 3D tubes. The fourth pic is better in this regard, you're on the right track with that. I think a good drawing exercise to remedy the flatness is to draw something like a tree trunk + branches and draw the cross sections going up the trunk and branches, which will be roughly circular out in the world and elliptical on your page. As the parts of the tree change direction, the orientation and eccentricity of the ellipses will change.
>>294060
Breddy gud, although I agree that it's very flat. I guess that other anon's third concern is your primary concern with this pic. Her breasts don't seem to be affecting the shape of her blue top–the wrinkles appear to be joining one completely flat section of the cloth to another flat section of the cloth. The breasts aren't causing the bottom of the cloth to contour to them. Her right forearm and tail don't appear to be further away than her body, although the left arm does appear closer, so you got that right.
There is a lack of foreshortening. Her feet and claws should be flat on the ground, but they appear as if she's standing on tiptoes or is suspended in the air. The scales on the tail and left forearm are similar sizes and distances apart no matter if the body part is oriented parallel to the viewing plane or if it's receding from the viewer.
For both anons, I sketched this pic that shows how lighting and shadowing can be split into a bunch of components. The order of the letters corresponds roughly to the order in which each element should be included (e.g. it would look weird to have ambient occlusion with no main shadow) but don't take it as gospel, it's more important that your drawing looks right than that it follows some anon's scribble. I think it's easiest to focus on the main shadow only in the initial stages, just have a light tone and a dark tone on an object and keep the dividing line relatively crisp. Specular reflections make things look shiny and polished, they make latex look like latex, but they don't have to be in there. Cast shadows, secondary reflections, and ambient occlusion are basically frills on top that in my experience need a lot of practise and references to get right.
06fdca No.294316
Have some dream induced sketches.
95849e No.294413
>>294316
Gee anon, why does your beargrill have TWO dildoes?
e075f7 No.294871
Any advice for someone who sucks at drawing and has mostly given up?
Wondering if I should bother trying again.
13e9c5 No.294968
>>294871
I suck ass at drawing too, but like with anything else, it takes time and practice to get better. Watch some videos or read some books on how to draw to get some pointers and/or to guide you in the right direction, and don't get discouraged because your art looks like shit. Most everyone's art looks like shit when they start.
2a0502 No.295112
Yall down for another drawpile on friday night?
0af13d No.295222
>>295112
Sure im up for it
Though right niw i can only do squares and cubes im still wprking on fundamentals
def3e1 No.295508
>>295222
>>295112
Yo fuck did I miss it?
cc6a08 No.295564
>>295112
>friday
fug
I'll try to get on it next friday.
d39d69 No.295626
Well that could have gone better, is friday a bad day for you guys? I don't have an particular need for it to be friday.
880383 No.295683
d39d69 No.295794
>>295683
Alright we'll try that.
09c7fe No.296881
Does this look like something I should finish monster? Just got done sketching it out, but not sure it'd be worth doing the digital colors.
95849e No.296908
>>296881
Looks cute. I say finish it.
284039 No.296935
Alright you belligerents, how many of you have are doing your draftsmanship exercises?
284039 No.296936
>>296935
- Draw with your arms not your wrist.
- Sit up straight with good posture.
- UNCROSS YOUR LEGS AND SIT UP STRAIGHT.
- Train up muscle memory by drawing circles and ellipses by the truck load.
- Train up accuracy with other exercises.
284039 No.296941
d39d69 No.297344
>>296936
>arms not wrist
FUCK
d39d69 No.297385
Results of impromptu drawpile.
Also just a reminder.
>>295794
>>295683
>>295626
Gonna host another drawpile Sunday night around 8EST
01480a No.297431
>>297385
So 7 cst?
Cool ill br their
Im still onlu able to do really shitty shapes
But at least im getting some good trace work done
d39d69 No.297596
Alright let's see if drawpile wants to work.
WIZVX /monster/ roomcode.
c9fb64 No.297616
>>297596
How the fuck does this work? I'm trying session > join, but it keeps giving me timeout errors.
d39d69 No.297617
>>297616
Hmm, I'm not sure, all my tests before now have worked out fine. Looking into what the problem could be.
d39d69 No.297618
Wouldn't happen to have hamachi would you? The quick and dirty fix would be connecting via that.
c9fb64 No.297619
>>297617
I tried connecting to a random server and it worked out fine, plus google didn't return anything client-side that could fuck with the connection.
I'm guessing serb is broke.
c9fb64 No.297621
>>297618
I do, plus I have the old installer if any of you fags need it.
Do you want to try messing around with the server first or just going straight to hamachi?
c9fb64 No.297622
>>297621
Nevermind, it worked now.
Did you do something or was it my internet acting up before?
8ec781 No.297626
>>297596
i don't understand what this means
d39d69 No.297628
>>297626
Grab the program drawpile.
https://drawpile.net/
Go to join session and use that room code WIZVX
c9fb64 No.297629
>>297626
1 - Download drawpile
2 - Run it
3 - Go Session -> Join
4 - Paste the code without spaces (it should automatically generate a room url)
5 - Connect
8ec781 No.297632
>>297629
>>297628
just paste in in the "Host Address" box?
d39d69 No.297655
The results of today's drawpile. I'll be posting each one, hopefully we'll see them improve over time. Counting myself we had 4 people today, that is good.
def3e1 No.297665
>>297655
I keep missing these.
82e9bd No.298871
Anybody got any good hair guides?
8ec781 No.298923
>>298871
Before we post them lets see what you can do right now bra
8ec781 No.299071
Were doing it again tonight right?
179bd4 No.299142
>>299071
We're gonna "do it" alright anon.
8EST
179bd4 No.299167
179bd4 No.299212
Tonight's drawpile went rather well, had some new faces. Seems like there's a lot of tablet issues out there.
8ec781 No.299220
>>299212
it was fun thanks for hosting
i think we're seeing some real improvement can't wait to see where the road takes us!
can't wait till next week!
179bd4 No.299234
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>299220
Don't forget to practice and also for those looking for more art tutorials I highly recommend prokopenko.
82e9bd No.299522
>>299187
nvm, found a Sycra video on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4KssWwHSRc
Wasn't using forms, and wasn't focusing on the flow of hair
2973c5 No.299884
>>297655
I like this little uh, imp of yours. Any more?
e26b80 No.300037
95849e No.300103
>>300101
Shiet, that looks related to some kind of furfag pokemon now.
96dd4f No.300691
Any of you faggots play Terraria?
e26b80 No.300813
Hosting a practice drawpile session: HNNSO
>>300691
No
e26b80 No.300826
Not a whole lot today but it was something. My hope is that one day we have enough drawpiles to resurrect that poor art fairy. >>291939
e307ae No.300832
>>300826
But today was Saturday not Sunday
Are we still going to do one of these tomorrow night?
e26b80 No.300875
>>300832
Yes, there will still be one.
96dd4f No.300876
Not /monster/ related. The other day I tried drawing my ideal woman.
301928 No.300904
>>300876
>ideal woman
>not /monster/ related
8ec781 No.300917
>>300876
Shes A dorf
Shes monster related bra
e26b80 No.300932
Alright, time for the sunday drawpile. Room code is FMOOR.
8ec781 No.300933
>>300932
Ill be stopping by in about an hour is that ok?
e26b80 No.300934
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>300933
NO, yes thats fine. The theme song for today's drawpile will be…
e26b80 No.300964
Another night, another drawpile.
95849e No.301086
>>300964
But why were multiple snouts drawn?
fecb21 No.301350
>>300964
Wew lad. I think I'm going to contribute to the next draw pile. We need some more taste.
2f527b No.302365
>>297385
>Faggottale
>Non-monsterfied pokemon depicted sexually
>>297655
>Even more faggot tale, this time fatter
Nice taste for Joel though
>>299212
>Tranny Vivian
>>300964
>Snouts
03b1ba No.302457
>>302365
I approve this message
f09265 No.302499
Well come draw things you approve of then, time for another sunday drawpile.
Room code: PCEKN
f09265 No.302582
The results of last night's drawpile.
743e04 No.302738
>>302582
Berry cute succubi, I'm glad u anons haven't lef /monster/ it's always felt like home
90b7cc No.302876
Is there any hope for me if i want to draw with a track pad on a laptop? Shouldi give up and not even try to draw?
Also when is the night drawpile?
9565ae No.302937
>>302876
>track pad on a laptop
Shit, a mouse is better. I'd say just start with pencil and paper, or pen and paper. Especially if money is a concern. Tablets aren't an inherently great tool at all—they're just really convenient for creating 100% digital art. I paid about $100 for some wacom tablet with a 10cm x 15cm drawing surface, it does the job but that's about it.
Drawpiles happen Sunday nights, not sure what time since it seems to vary. I like to keep this thread open in a tab.
4b610e No.303452
>>302365
Most of this is true, but Vivian wasn't actually drawn as a tranny in >>299212
8d3c0e No.304287
Shitposts are always an opportunity to learn how to draw.
f09265 No.304314
Reminder tonight's drawpile starts at 8 EST.
f09265 No.304327
>>304314
Drawpile 6.0 is up!
ULVAV
f09265 No.304344
Well tonight's drawpile was lonely only 2 participants apart from myself. /monster/ isn't that lovely in general I suppose but hope we get more folks for next week.
cdf8a2 No.304345
>>304344
sorry m8 i missed it tonight
then again im normally the dude that just makes circles and lines so i don't really contribute that much
f09265 No.304346
>>304345
Don't sweat it bro, the drawpile is about CAMARADERIE as much as it is practicing our fundies.
d9a123 No.304400
>>304344
Saturday is a more convenient time for me, like when there was that practise one a few weeks back. Because of timezones, that one fell right into the middle of Sunday.
f09265 No.304940
>>304400
I've got no qualms about hosting on Saturdays. I'll go ahead and host at Saturday 8 EST instead of Sunday.
b9ff6e No.306027
f09265 No.306029
>>306027
So right NOW
VDOHJ
0ea052 No.306030
>>306029
Im gonna join in an hour
f09265 No.306073
Well tonight's drawpile was a smashing success, easily the best one yet with the largest turnout. I'll certainly be hosting on saturday from now on. Keep a look out on other days because I'm still want to host one impromptu every now and then. For now enjoy the fruits of tonight's labor, a full canvas!
6e7fb3 No.306076
>>306073
Very nice! I think I could learn a lot from seeing how all the other guys do it.
what happened to the colours?
cdf8a2 No.306079
>>306073
dang it i missed it again
oh well i haven't peen practicing anyway so id
b9ff6e No.306173
>>306073
Was a lot of fun. Would be glad if we had them more often.
cd594c No.306338
drank some expired wine and had a weird night
4b610e No.306372
>>306338
You dreamt of a disembodied hakutaku head teaching you how to blow up federal buildings?
4b610e No.306374
>>306073
I like the Keaton girl and the maid, though the bottom right pics are looking very tumblrish in their artstyle. /monster/, with its firm stance against snouts, should work to emphasize proper nose drawing until our monster girls have the most beautiful and anti-semitic noses possible.
cd594c No.306432
6e7fb3 No.306437
>>306374
>/monster/, with its firm stance against snouts, should work to emphasize proper nose drawing until our monster girls have the most beautiful and anti-semitic noses possible.
4b610e No.306469
>>306437
I wonder how many anons on /monster/ have bumped noses.
b9ff6e No.306555
>>306437
So where can I find a good model for truly beautiful noses?
0ea052 No.306629
Colors are fun, but anatomy is not.
f09265 No.306703
>>306173
If you are around tonight maybe I'll host an impromptu one.
611649 No.306711
>>306703
I would join you. Which time, which timezone?
f09265 No.306728
>>306711
Got caught up in other things but I tend to host them at 8est usually. Tomorrow instead maybe?
611649 No.306729
>>306728
I'm always up for it.
f09265 No.306839
>>306729
Going to start an impromptu drawpile at 7 EST(in 20 minutes)
611649 No.306840
>>306839
Nice.
Hopefully some other people read this too.
6e7fb3 No.306841
One dose of motivation coming right up!
f09265 No.306843
f09265 No.306849
Please don't delete your sketches when you leave, the idea is to save your progress over time or I wouldn't bother posting the results of the drawpile.
210a23 No.306864
is the drawpile still going strong?
f09265 No.306865
>>306864
I wouldn't say strong, but its still going.
611649 No.306866
>>306864
Come and find out.
f09265 No.306954
Results of last nights impromptu drawpile, spoiler'd because niggas can't contain themselves.
cdf8a2 No.307015
>>306954
>tfw no time to draw
>tfw when ever you start to draw you feel like shit
>TFW in limbo
>feels batman
210a23 No.307053
>>307015
maybe its because you are subconsciously aware that whatever waifu you are drawing is shit and could never compare to kobolds
2f527b No.307264
>>306954
>Call it the /monster/ drawpile
>Put futanari in it
That's as if /leftypol/ made their own draw pile but they put up a portrait of Pinochet in it.
611649 No.307280
So anyone hosting today?
It's Saturday.
f09265 No.307285
>>307280
Just threw it up now
DYHZD
f09265 No.307337
We've been going two months straight already, here's the result of another successful week.
Also mrmas, stop being a faggot please.
c7cf24 No.307339
>>307337
Fug, I was going to join now.
See you next week then.
dfbf49 No.307993
>>306954
Get your shit together op. You already allowed furry and futa, this isn't a /monster/ drawpile anymore. If you want that stuff to be allowed then take it off the board.
4b610e No.307998
>>306954
Stop being a fucking pushover and kick the fags that are drawing futa and furry. It's the /monster/ drawpile, not the /chaos/ or /furry/ drawpile.
f09265 No.308118
>>307993
>>307998
I forget how laser focused the autism can get here, I'll be more strict.
0ea052 No.308207
>>307998
>>307993
Stop acting autistic, people only go the drawpile to have banter and draw. If you really have a problem with one or two people drawing something then go onto the drawpile and bitch at them, or wise fuck off.
578fbd No.308213
>>308207
While I'm sympathetic towards this point of view, norm enforcement is good and necessary.
dfbf49 No.308215
>>308207
They can go to /loomis/ if they want to just draw and have bants. A /monster/ drawpile should at least have its drawings within the rules. Also the only times I showed up didn't have such problems.
0ea052 No.308217
>>308215
Does /loomis/ even have a drawpile?
4b610e No.308231
>>308217
You're free to go start a drawpile there or elsewhere yourself if you want your furkike friends around so badly.
611649 No.308316
>>308217
No. The whole board has about 2 posts a day.
I'd like to know which other boards do them though.
9565ae No.308348
>>308316
Haven't seen any other drawpiles. However, /a/ has an almost dead drawing thread.
210a23 No.308371
>>307993
>>307998
>come in
>try to draw the cutest kobold you can
>eurofag lag is making it hard
>nigger plops in next to you and draws a cute foxgirl
>pretty good
>suddenly huge futa schlong
I never asked for this
f09265 No.308616
Alright, drawpile V8 is now in session, room code: VTELS
I am somewhat distracted so it will be a little while before I personally participate, but the room is open.
f09265 No.308643
c72951 No.308675
>>308643
Ill be on tomarrow
f09265 No.308678
>>308675
Guess we'll have to, disaster has struck.
I kind of fell asleep and when I went to save tonight's drawpile the program crashed. This is all I could save of it with a screenshot, sorry to the ones who filled the bottom of the page, you two did a good job of it.
9565ae No.308691
>>308678
Wew lad. I save the drawpiles when I leave so here's some more salvage. I drew the rust demon, and the guy drawing the spooky girl was still going when I left.
The demon's from a web serial called Pact and that story has some good /monster/ potential.
>One demon in a female guise, her body twisted, enclosed in what looked like three cubes that had bitten into flesh. Her head-cube rattled, shuddering, jittering, the orientation moving.
>The female demon with the great iron cubes replacing much of her head, part of her torso, and the entirety of one hand and forearm swung the hand-cube into the crowd. Where flesh met iron, there was a mingling of bloodstains, scabbing, and rust. Sometimes the rust touched flesh, and sometimes it was the cube that was stained with scabs.
cdf8a2 No.308734
>>308691
ghost girl looks so cute
oneday .jpeg
c42ab4 No.308737
God damn it, I keep forgetting it's Saturday.
I'll try setting an alarm for next time. It's 8 EST, right?
f09265 No.308764
>>308691
Nice, thanks for the save.
>>308737
Correct, though I've taken to starting early.
611649 No.308769
>>308737
If your bandwidth isn't abysmal you can just make one and I'll join.
c7cf24 No.308862
>>308764
Alright, I'll set it to 7:30 and hope I won't miss it somehow.
>>308769
It's like a fucking roller coaster, either going full throttle at 1ms/s download or literally out for days, but I guess I'll might making one tomorrow and see how it plays out.
8d0b3d No.309582
How do you force yourself to study if you were never any good at it in school? I've got the attention span of a flea and getting learned skills to stick takes me forever.
c7cf24 No.309588
>>309582
With skills that require some form of physical skill, such as playing guitar and drawfagging, I find that hate helps me a lot. It's something like "We must embrace pain and burn it as fuel for our journey" except with "hatred" and a bit of that happy feeling you get when you notice you're not as shit.
I mostly just look at good art, go "what the fuck, how the fuck is this fucking faggot so good? That's fucking cheating, god fucking damn" and use pure fury to draw, then, when I make something that's not that shit, I get gleeful feeling that serves as a last push.
Look at this shit, look at this hot fucking midriff and hate the cunt that had the audacity to make something like this while you struggle with fucking line control.
There are also some who use waifufaggotry and porn as motivation, but neither works for me. I abused waifu motivation before, so now it doesn't do much by itself, and, while I can use porn as reference, if I think of it as something lewd to motivate myself, I just get too distracted.
9a6363 No.309708
>>309582
>>309588
Attending a real-world life drawing session does wonders for my motivation, at least for the duration of the class. By myself, I can't just sit down and draw complicated poses for three hours, but I can when I am held accountable for it in front of other artists in real life.
I also use the allure of drawing sexy girls as motivation, and maybe one day I'll use waifufaggotry too.
6c1b45 No.309796
Another week of no practice, but at least I still have the weekly drawpile. It's not yet 8 but I'll be throwing the room up now.
PMXKZ
6c1b45 No.309798
Some more drawing resources I've been sitting on.
6c1b45 No.309827
We've done 10 whole drawpiles as of tonight, I hope to do many more with you guys. Here is tonight's work.
68693d No.309840
>>309827
Very cute mothgirl.
5a7efa No.309920
Hey, I drew another Jabberwocky girl
6c1b45 No.309931
>>309920
very nice, you only really need to work on your line confidence.
5d47e5 No.311346
Reminder there will be a drawpile tonight. I haven't practiced at all since the last one though.
5d47e5 No.311356
Alright anons get in here and draw your waifus, or at least practice so you one day can!
RYSSF
611649 No.311361
>>311356
Gonna join later this time. I'm busy today.
c7cf24 No.311382
>>311361
Accidentally two hours. Is it still ongoing?
9565ae No.311385
>>311382
Come on in, I'm sketching shit still
5d47e5 No.311390
Another Saturday another drawpile, thanks everyone who came. Will try to host some extra ones during the week if I can.
2f527b No.311392
>>311390
>furries in the corner
5d47e5 No.311394
>>311392
Now you are just making shit up.
2f527b No.311396
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>311394
I know where those girls came from, you look at this and you just try to tell me this isn't furry.
5d47e5 No.311399
>>311396
There isn't even a snout, goddamn son lay off the caffeine. MGE itself has worse shit than this.
2f527b No.311400
>>311399
>Furry on damage control
9565ae No.311401
>>311400
>projecting this hard
b2491a No.311827
7a4e0a No.312688
Saturdaily drawpile going up at 8EST as usual.
ff91ff No.312697
7a4e0a No.312699
>>312697
XZUDF
Come on in everyone!
7a4e0a No.312728
Tonight's pile went quite well.
b1b9cd No.312729
>>312728
this is closer to how I'd imagine a /monster/ drawpile should be personally, more waifus less practise on the /monster/ drawpile please. particularly like the hellhound in the bottom right and the gazer portrait in the top middle
5897f8 No.312733
>>312728
>additional yetis after I left
<3
54dce9 No.313128
>>312729
But anon, there should be both more waifus and more practice.
ff91ff No.313141
>>313128
There should be practice with waifus
b84418 No.313803
I am late tonight, but without further delay.
GICJY
Another drawpile.
709929 No.313826
I hope I won't fuck up again.
b84418 No.313843
Late start but some good stuff this week. I had meant to host some extra during the week but it just didn't work out like that. Will try to do so again this week.
b84418 No.314652
2b7947 No.314661
>>306841
Straight up looks like a dragon fruit.
b84418 No.314699
Tonight's pile went fairly well, see you all next time!
d9813c No.315320
>>292130
>4 months ago
>>292183
He didn't draw so good.
Would like to see your progress, need more feets artists.
40771f No.315601
Have this piece of encouragement. Feel free to try recreate it with Audience replaced with Art Fairy.
b84418 No.315811
Alright boys its time.
CZDQH
16e5d8 No.315824
>>315601
Fixed for accuracy.
b84418 No.315863
A pretty active if sparsely populated drawpile tonight. Dan we missed you buddy.
58c369 No.315867
>>315863
Went ahead and colored that hornet below since it didn't turn out all that bad…
370591 No.316236
Visited a flower garden today.
b84418 No.316942
Alright lads its time again to practice your waifus.
QNKPC
b84418 No.316977
The drawpiles are getting colorful and we even had some new faces. A good night overall.
54dce9 No.317045
>>316977
That's a good munk.
The possibly fake lizardgirl isn't being very JUSTICE despite her Ammit sigil tattoo, though.
455ef2 No.317289
>>317045
I wasn't too happy with what the rng spat out when I drew her so I fixed some minor details.
2ef973 No.317686
Here's some crappy design I did of an elderly succubus
7cc0dc No.317703
>>317686
>that nose
>those lips
It looks like something out of an A. Wyatt Mann cartoon.
60e047 No.317992
The usual guy does not appear to be around to host the drawpile.
ADOSX
15ad40 No.318003
>>317992
Anyone else having problems connecting to this guy?
ff91ff No.318005
>>317992
Is the room dead already or am I just having trouble connecting to it?
60e047 No.318007
>>318003
I just tried making it public.
15ad40 No.318009
>>318007
Still keep getting this.
60e047 No.318011
At the moment I'm trying to fuck with the server hosting settings, but it only lets me make a public room that's listed at https://drawpile.net/servers/ and has no room code.
15ad40 No.318012
>>318011
What a nice list of public servers.
60e047 No.318014
Fug. Can't get the room code thing working, so I'm doing it differently.
Join /monster/ which is listed at https://drawpile.net/servers/. The password is "ara ara".
b84418 No.318020
Regular host here, did you guys get it up and running? I am sorry I am running late.
455ef2 No.318023
>>318014
no dice, cant see it on the list.
60e047 No.318030
>>318023
That's odd. I can't see it on the list either, even though people are still connected and drawing.
455ef2 No.318039
>>318030
Guess im not drawing this week then.
60e047 No.318040
>>318039
I think you can connect to it by opening the Session>Join dialog box and clicking "Find…". Then you'll have to show the age-restricted rooms and search for /monster/. It's there, just not listed on the site anymore for some reason
455ef2 No.318054
>>318040
thanks, that got me in.
60e047 No.318059
We've had some pretty good sessions these last few weeks.
ebfbf0 No.318451
Jabberwocky guy here, this time I've got a shy Ryu
60e047 No.318527
>>318451
>Jabberwocky guy
The same guy who was writefagging in the Cheshire thread? I enjoyed those posts.
Nice pic too. To pick something to crit about it, I'd say the chin points forward weirdly.
ebfbf0 No.318531
>>309920
Nah, I'm the one that was drawing this.
4346fa No.318931
Now, I have a tsundere Vampire-chan.
Altough it looks almost no different from a normal girl…
How do I make this one more monster?
e601a8 No.318946
>>318931
>Drill hair babe
Looks good. To make her more monstrous, you could give her visible fangs, narrow clawlike nails, or blood-red sclera. Buh I'm pretty sure MGE vampires are as cosplay-tier as selkies.
Make the hands more delicate and feminine. The front of the jacket also looks a bit flat. The folds around each hip are symmetrical even though she's not facing front-on.
a9e87e No.319042
>>318931
>vampires
>monstrous
GO HOME BLOOD GIRL
There's really not much you can do other than the fangs and claws >>318946 said.
e3d93c No.319146
>>319042
>GO HOME BLOOD GIRL
Now that's a meme I've not heard in a long time. A long time.
4e6100 No.319243
Drawpile soon anons. Just a heads up.
4e6100 No.319250
IT BEGINS
room code: IIDUG
4e6100 No.319275
Particularly good night for drawan. Great job everyone!
4d76df No.319318
>>289731
>>289732
Wow I wish there was an autistic guide like this for learning programming.
5897f8 No.319319
Looking for criticism of this lineart especially re: the clothes.
cf08b2 No.319352
>>319319
I don't know much but while they generally look pretty gud, they may be bit too stiff instead of flowing down naturally due to gravity unless they're meant to float alongside ghost(?) girl.
a9e87e No.319354
>>319318
The thing about learn programming is that it's pretty ample. Not to say that drawing isn't, but with art there is a clear beginning (learn basic shapes, line control, construction and perspective, then go from there).
With programming the basics are the way of thinking, something you can't teach someone with a book.
Besides, programming itself can be very broad, there's quite a difference from OO to declarative and from imperative to functional. There is common ground between them, but not as much as with drawing. There isn't much difference between learning the basics on paper and pen or digitally.
The best way you could go about programming is just get SICP, some resource from a language you want to learn and just go out there doing math challenges, applications/scripts you need and going out of your comfort area.
>>319319
Try varying your line width more. I almost never do it, but it certainly helps lineart look better. It looks kind of stiff with the folds being the same size as the rest.
Also, the sleeves look kind of bad. It shouldn't olop around like that, just go down naturally.
I can't draw for shit and I couldn't find a good example, but these pics should help a bit.
398643 No.319360
Here's another Schoolgirl, now a gyaru Pharaoh.
a9e87e No.319368
>>319360
>gyaru Pharaoh.
Is that like a double nigger?
5897f8 No.319369
>>319354
>>319352
Thanks lads.
>>319360
Cute angry girl. Do you make an undersketch in pencil for these pics or is it straight from pen?
There are some flaws that consistently show up in your drawings.
>The hands don't look three dimensional and the fingers tend to be the same size and shape. Practise lots of girly hands.
>The lines look shaky in general. This is especially apparent in the hair, where large amounts of lines all closely spaced looks quite messy and frizzy.
>Your girls look pissed off a lot of the time.
>When hair strands or wing folds pass behind an arm, they look like two disconnected lines rather than being all part of the same big line.
>Line thickness doesn't vary much. Do you have pens of multiple thicknesses? Perhaps you could draw over certain lines with a thicker pen or make a planning sketch with a thin pen.
>General flatness from lines terminating suddenly rather than tapering slowly when necessary.
398643 No.319372
>>319369
Yeah, I make the sketch with pencil first.
4d76df No.319444
>>309588
>waifufaggotry and porn as motivation
What do you mean by that? Drawing pornographic stuff?
a9e87e No.319447
>>319444
Both are pretty self explanatory, trips man.
You have a waifu and you draw her in specific to motivate you to draw. Either as an act of love or as a sort of workship for the girl you love from the depth of your soul.
Basically it's "I like waifu" combined with "I draw thing I like" that turns into "I draw waifu".
Porn is pretty much the same except with porn. Some people just like porn that much without being too much of a horny faggot, so they can draw smut to motivate themselves to draw and learn anatomy in general.
784abf No.319637
Starting the drawabox thing. Here we go.
5f0fe8 No.319921
>>319637
first time trying this monster thing out, just some satyr crusaders
6d2b53 No.320223
deac7a No.320240
The time hath come, your waifus need drawing. Cum one cum all and bring them to life!
Drawpile room code: JRFFZ
deac7a No.320292
Huge turnout tonight, lots of good stuff tonight. Didn't do very well myself but I haven't been practicing as hard as I ought to be. Keep it up lads.
4ab845 No.321137
I haven't drawn in months and have never drawn people or living things before.
How do I get back into drawing without sucking terribly and losing motivation because of it?
f91622 No.321203
>>321137
>How do I get back into drawing without sucking terribly and losing motivation because of it?
It's easier to break the 'because' than the 'sucking terribly' link in the chain. But I can't give actionable advice on. doing that because it just happened for me recently after a long time of drawing and I don't know how it did.
I can say that before, I was very invested in individual pieces, even sketches, and I would obsess over the presence or absence of noticable improvements in my drawing skill. When I stopped giving a shit about my piece-to-piece quality it helped a lot. And caring less had no adverse effects on my drawing skill either.
6d2b53 No.321214
Also
Motivation comes after you start, not before. "Waiting for motivation to strike" is just making excuses to procrastinate.
5f0fe8 No.321282
>>321137
Just force yourself to draw. Motivation for me comes from being better.
756018 No.321301
>>319360
I'm back with another one, I tried something More complicated.
deac7a No.321328
Alright lads, Drawpile is giving me some issues and won't host due to a handshake network error. Fiddling with it right now.
deac7a No.321331
If anyone would like to try hosting go right ahead. I can't make heads or tails of this, looks like the issue has been experienced by others so it might be on drawpile's end.
6d2b53 No.321334
Their security certificate expired, I think. I'll see about hosting something.
6d2b53 No.321336
I'm hosting a room called /monster/ with password "ara ara". I don't think there's any way for people to find and connect to it though, but maybe someone might want to try.
deac7a No.321339
>>321336
Yeah, unable to find it. If we can't drawpile tonight, how about we each try to draw something worth posting in the thread instead?
6d2b53 No.321345
>>321336
Attempting something different. Can anyone connect to 192.168.42.173:27760 ?
6d2b53 No.321361
Giving up.
>how about we each try to draw something worth posting in the thread instead?
Let's.
1d9e5e No.321374
Coming a bit late, so the drawpile is a no go? I'll post the thing I'm working on later.
deac7a No.321377
>>321374
Yeah, drawpile itself seems to be down right now.
7ec33b No.321393
Did a quick sketch trying some new drawing software and a new style.
52c542 No.321454
I got carried away and spent 3 hours on it. Might tidy the lines and colour it later.
deac7a No.321704
Stopped myself before I could get too carried away.
>>321454
Nice scenery.
52c542 No.322787
Good news—the issue with drawpile appears to be fixed.
>>321704
Some of the skin folds are going the wrong way given the perspective.
55cd12 No.322831
>>322787
I'll have to try and keep that in mind for the future. I really should use more references when drawing stuff from odd angles like that.
55cd12 No.322883
The time has come for another drawpile. Seems to be working again so let's get in there and make up for lost time. Shame more people did not post their solo art, I'd have collaged it together for a bootleg v20.
LUEVU
55cd12 No.322888
>>322883
Something is being weird, new roomcode is TFWAN
82dd32 No.322899
Made this for halloween but didnt finish it in time
c41ef1 No.324055
It's that time kids!
drawpile roomcode: BRUJZ
c41ef1 No.324113
Lively pile tonight, hope it keeps up.
7de874 No.324203
Any free software to connect basic android tablet to windows desktop for drawing?
2a8388 No.324215
>>324203
Download Microsoft's Remote Desktop on your Android tablet. I'm not sure if there's latency issues or not though.
4d2c7c No.324476
>>317686
Tried a redesign. My hands still suck ass though
69b049 No.325043
>>324113
that fucking rolf cheshire is hillarious
5e6c12 No.325087
>>312930
it looks really good, The body and the face look like they are two different styles though, could be me just being a nit picking bitch but overall its really well done.
08a6ca No.325147
>>324476
You're drawing symbols for all the parts of the face
89eb9a No.325230
Another saturday rolls on by, time for a drawpile.
Room code: UGUJS
7e2eb6 No.326010
Well might as well throw in something I scribbled for laughs
43869b No.326227
help ol' anon out with his legs
why legs gotta be so not easy
d909f6 No.326231
>>326227
>>326010
Good to see yall's practicing. Tighten up the line confidence and do more 3D construction.
7266c5 No.326238
>>326227
All parts of the body are not easy, some are just have a wider range of what looks acceptable.
1cf9bb No.326330
Will be delaying the drawpile for an hour and a half ish today. Just a heads up.
1cf9bb No.326342
OPNWI
I myself am preoccupied for this drawpile so have fun amongst yourselves.
6e4c42 No.326417
>>326407
Three more weeks of this and we'll have half a year under our belt. They've been good shit.
6d1142 No.327043
Hello! I bring a happy cat to you today.
c95779 No.327110
18f4ec No.327185
How do I not get upset when people critique my art?
fcc86c No.327240
I fancy turning up to the drawpile this sat, is there some kind of time frame it operates on or should I just lurk here?
>>327185
Never managed it tbh. If you like what you made and then people point out the flaws then it hurts.
If you really like something you made, then probably don't request critique. Otherwise you just have to swallow the suffering.
18f4ec No.327283
I've only been using a tablet for a couple weeks now so I am trying to figure out SAI.
a big problem I've been having is that the lines have been too inconsistent. I think I hit a sweet spot on this piece.
Does anyone have any SAI tips?
18f4ec No.327284
>>327283
I'm particularly bad at hair so if anyone has a good guide on that, that'd be nice too.
08a6ca No.327297
>>327283
If you make the pen pressure control the size rather than the opacity, does that help with the consistency problem? Perhaps messing with the tablet pen's response curve would help too, you could set it to give an almost full size even on light presses so only the very edges of the stroke get tapered. Most drawing programs have an internal control for that sort of thing and the tablet software should let you change it as well.
SAI is really great but I haven't used it for ages. Play with the stroke stabilisation options.
That is a really cute baph by the way. Do you have pics in traditional media elsewhere on /monster/? One thing I notice about the hair is that the bases of the horns should be obscured by the hair.
1cf9bb No.327362
Alright lads I'm a bit late today but the pile is ready!
HUXPF
1cf9bb No.327379
>>327378
Yes, there are plenty of folks here.
fcc86c No.327381
>>327379
I realised my drawpile was version 1 from like 2015. Pretty embarrassing.
1cf9bb No.327398
Healthy number of folks dropped in tonight!
5c20d3 No.327408
I would like to bring peoples' attention to this resource I found at >>>/loomis/6321 it's a siterip containing highres model pose images, each pose with pictures taken at many camera angles.
18f4ec No.327488
>>327297
>>327286
Thanks mates
>That is a really cute baph by the way. Do you have pics in traditional media elsewhere on /monster/?
I've drawn tamamo, an elf and a succubus in colored pencil and posted it.
18f4ec No.327492
>>327283
follow up, changed my pen tool settings around and practiced with the hair a bit.
18f4ec No.327512
>>327507
ah damn, I read that second image before I started drawing, then intentionally made the far edges darker. I misremembered it and did the exact opposite.
>You're drawing digitally and can use layers, so use them. It's a simple circle shape, so could've drawn it in one fluid motion then drawn the horn over it. It'd look more fluid and natural.
This drawing is actually like 10 layers already. not sure what you're talking about when you start talking about the circle shape?
18f4ec No.327539
>>327515
Thanks mate, didn't even notice that. The horns were drawn right on top after finishing the entire rest of the image, but I still had fucked up that specific part of the hair.
Sadly there is no circle tool for SAI.
Also thickened the near lines out.
18f4ec No.327601
99369e No.327631
Nobody Is asking, yet it continues.
a75f7b No.327686
>>327670
Man cheeks are real fuckers. You get the elevation, angles, height or anything wrong and it looks fucking awful. I always over angle them so it looks like the head is facing downwards.
Fuck cheeks.
15d0d6 No.328109
This one just came out looking dirty. Any suggestions?
ec37ad No.328127
>>328109
>first panel
Yukkuri shiteitte ne!!!
>looking dirty
Be careful not to let your hand rest on previous pencil strokes. You may want to stick a piece of scrap paper under your hand while you work. Keep your pencils sharp. When filling in values, do the darkest parts of the page first.
Apart from those general tips: the mushroom stalk looks weird. The viewpoint is from below the cap so we should see much more of the stalk before it joins the underside of the cap. (Think of upskirt shots in anime.) The perspective of the desk is unphysical. Study vanishing points.
Keep at it. We're all gonna make it guys.
c7a7c7 No.328342
Time for another pile! Would you fellows like for theme'd piles such as stronk monstergrills, aquatic girls, magical girls?
XCYXA
c7a7c7 No.328397
Bit of a slow start but tonight's pile really picked up later into the night.
5c20d3 No.328573
>>328342
>theme'd piles such as stronk monstergrills, aquatic girls, magical girls?
Half-half themed and non-themed would be good.
By the way, could you password-protect these sessions? Our room doesn't show up on the drawpile site because it's tagged NSFW but it's still visible in the Session>Join…>Find… menu of the application. This is probably why we get so many randoms showing up and leaving immediately.
18f4ec No.328669
Does anyone know what drawing program Kenkou cross uses and his brush settings?
4d2c7c No.328684
>>328669
Can't say I know. I'd look up whatever art programs are used in Japan, assuming it's not Photoshop
18f4ec No.328685
>>328684
I assume it’s Sai but I can’t manage to replicate his outline style brush
898c4a No.328943
>>328247
Keeping with the series…
c7a7c7 No.328966
>>328573
>half-themed and non-themed would be good
Care to elaborate? I think of it more as a suggestion for the indecisive or an opportunity to practice different body types.
>password-protect sessions
dropping in and out really doesn't affect anything, a few piles have even gotten some nice contributions out of it so I am inclined against it.
08a6ca No.329039
>>328943
Looks a lot cleaner now. Your linework is probably the thing you're doing best at the moment. I like the Cheshire's hair in the 4th panel. What you need to improve on is drawing heads and faces from a variety of angles as well as making the composition inside each panel more dynamic. e.g. in the last panel, the characters are moving sideways, and it would be more dynamic to have the Cheshire pulling the dude towards the foreground with an exaggerated size difference due to perspective.
>>328966
>Care to elaborate?
I meant alternating between a themed drawpile on one week, then a regular one the next week, and so on.
With regard to drop-ins, we do get nice art sometimes and the guests are well-behaved but every new connection seems to make everyone else lag as the new person catches up, and more than half the time the new person just leaves anyway. They also have a habit of deleting after they're done, I think because that's the norm in these sorts of collaborative drawing communities and we're the ones doing it differently.
3a9b8b No.329175
I made this a while back.
8dc4ac No.329303
The time for another pile has come. Gonna see how well a theme slides tonight. Tonights theme will be simple, BIG FUGGIN COW TIDDIES, cows, houlstars, minotauresses, try out drawing at least one!
Room code: WFHNM
Password: waifu
8dc4ac No.329334
Low turn out today but a few good sketches nonetheless.
731f82 No.329353
Finished off coloring that cowgirl I was working on.
d872d4 No.329497
>>329353
I'm not a fan of the crosseyed look.
08a6ca No.329499
>>327539
The torso looks strange. The character's right tit looks weirdly pinched, and the angle of that tit makes it look like it's sliding off the chest. The collarbone doesn't look like a 3D construction, it looks flat, and the neck is placed off centre.
>Also thickened the near lines out.
This improves it a lot. Post again sometime.
>>329175
That's cool, quite a monstrous design. I like how she looks a lot more normal when viewed straight-on.
>>329353
Good to see that you're shifting the hue for the shadow. Most beginners shade with blacker values of the exact same hue, which is a common mistake.
The image has an embossed look because the shadows follow the lineart instead of revealing the way she's shaped in a 3D space.
d26080 No.329671
>>329353
Could be wrong, but i think you got the thumbs on the wrong side of the hands.(?)
54b0f5 No.329690
>>329353
As >>329671 points out, her hands are swapped. I'll add that the angle on her legs and torso doesn't quite match up and her right should sticks out a little too much for the angle in my eyes, making her seem a tad lopsided. I would also say that the hand symbol should really be covering her left side where the heart actually is rather than her right so it makes more sense, but that's just me being pedantic. Points for the eyes, freckles and pretty good positioning of the collar bone with respect to the torso though. Keep at it.
54b0f5 No.329691
>>329690
>her right should
shoulder*, even. Proofreading is apparently hard.
34c3ea No.329725
>>328943
More dragon action for you
8c89ad No.329826
>>329725
Pro tip bro tip. If you can keep the expressions intact you may want to reduce the sizes of their mouths. Smaller mouth = cuter. On the flip side I know the trope of the C-cat is the big grin so you need to make sure she can smile bigly. Make of this criticism what you will.
b85907 No.330736
I want to see a MILFy witch with red irises, yellow sclerae, large pointy ears, small pointy nose, green skin, long black hair, black lips, black lizard tongue, long black claws (finger + toes), black nipples, black inner pussy, and a black inner anus.
she is lying naked on her back with a smug look on her face, presenting herself to a prince, after the prince "slayed" her dragon(girl) in order to rescue the princess the witch had kidnapped + cursed, she is eagerly waiting for him to "slay" her as well.
besides her is her black cat(girl) familiar, also naked and eager to be "slayed" by the prince's "holy sword", suggesting a threesome in her dialogue.
You can also draw the satisfied dragon(girl) post-encounter with the prince.
d43863 No.330821
>>330736
Lad, you're looking for >>319340. A request as detailed as that is better off as a commission.
18f4ec No.330859
Did this one today, I haven't totally finished the eyes though, and I need to add the bow.
>>329499
>The torso looks strange. The character's right tit looks weirdly pinched, and the angle of that tit makes it look like it's sliding off the chest. The collarbone doesn't look like a 3D construction, it looks flat, and the neck is placed off centre.
Would you mind red lining the torso/neck for me?
I admit I dont know how to draw collarbones.
acf921 No.330948
Are you lads going to be down for the drawpile tonight? With christmas incoming I'm not entirely sure how the turnout will be.
d43863 No.330951
>>330948
I'd be happy to drawpile today, but I can't guarantee that I'll be there due to Christmas stuff.
acf921 No.330983
Alright, time for the christmas pile!
RZRYS
pass: waifu
b6a848 No.330994
>>330859
I don't know either.
acf921 No.331057
Turned out a very nice pile we had tonight. Merry christmas everyone!
b85907 No.331095
>>330821
Thanks, Merry Christmas!
4ff97a No.331266
>>330859
I hope this makes sense???
8c89ad No.331411
I'm having issues smudging around black outlines. It seems like they appear no matter how much the magic wand outline doesn't show black in there. Is there a trick with layers I'm missing? It's not a problem if I'm using colors cus I can just paint all over but when I'm trying to blend stuff with the smudge tool is where I run into problems.
Also dem snake eyes.
080c3a No.331413
>>331411
Are you painting the colours on the same layer as the linework? What you can do to avoid the smudge tool issue is to create a layer below the linework layer to put all the colour work on.
This might necessitate a change in how you fill in the flat colours to begin with. If you use the magic wand tool ("Contiguous selection tool" in Krita) then you'll want to make sure the colour layer is selected and that the checkbox in the tool options about limiting to the current layer is not active. You may find it helpful to grow the selection by 1 or 2 px, especially if you have antialiased linework. Then you can paint and smudge as normal in the selection and it will not sample the black pixels from the linework layer.
At the skill and experience level you're at, I'd recommend you try the exercises at drawabox.com and in the books by Andrew Loomis linked here: https://8ch.net/loomis/hub.html
8c89ad No.331417
>>331413
Next time I open up krita I'll give that a try. Drawbox looks interesting as well.
I don't have a drawing tablet so I'll do what I can with my mouse.
d43863 No.331463
>>331417
>I don't have a drawing tablet so I'll do what I can with my mouse.
Mouse is third worst tool for drawing. (First and second worst are laptop clitmice and touchpads.) Use a pen and paper.
8c89ad No.331474
>>331463
see
>>331287
My original stuff was in pencil and pen. I just traced it with my mouse. My line work would definitely be improved with a tablet but I'm also using the basic bitch brushes so I may be compromising myself in that way as well.
I'm still learning all Krita can do so my line work wasn't my main objective for this exercise. Rather I wanted to become more familiar with the layers, "magic wand" and other assorted tools. I need to learn the shortcuts for brushes so I can swap between them quicker.
6efd2a No.331507
>>330599
Cat schemes attract Jub-jub
ac2d5c No.331862
The last pile of the year! Be sure to draw celebratory waifus.
ICLBZ
pass: waifu
ac2d5c No.331908
Happy new year /monster/! Here's to a whole years worth of piles to come.
4ff97a No.332567
>>327539
>Sadly there is no circle tool for SAI.
82de78 No.332861
>>331507
Continuing with the comic…
a99c25 No.332889
The first pile of the year is upon us! Cum one cum all and bring your waifus to life!
XSZKN
pass: waifu
a99c25 No.332950
Low turnout tonight, still drew lots though so it evened out. Catch yall next week.
d4034b No.333101
finished some drawings, thought i would post them. the human figure in perspective is a pain sometimes.
156e43 No.333128
>>333101
What is wrong with that kikimoras face?!
Other than that the picture looks good. The room looks like an actual room, the perspective is good, her proportions seem alright though I'm probably not a good critic for that. Some of the things on the wall like ammits sigil and gone with the wan were nice touches
4c3ab0 No.333164
>>333160
that looks like a snout but i cant tell since you posted a thumbnail
d4034b No.333508
>>333128
kek, she's suppose to be stuffing her face with chips. clean ones mind you. i was a little worried that wasn't going to come across.
191c3b No.333608
Posted from the draw thread, after receiving some feedback. Anything else you would change?
08e5ef No.333628
>>333608
The jaw/mouth seems especially ebonic for a japanese monster girl.
191c3b No.333666
>>333628
I don't think that's something I'll change for this piece, but it's something I'll try to avoid next time. Does it have something to do with how I colored it? I was trying some new techniques this time, so it may just be my inexperience.
fa1954 No.333700
>>333666
The lips are really big is what I can see.
2cfbf6 No.333740
Hey. I'm drawing this part now. It Is the same as this>>327631
But I'm still not convinced this Is how the right arm, forearm and claw would look. Any suggestions?
2cfbf6 No.333783
>>333740
I tried changing the fingers to not have bend as much.
2cfbf6 No.333955
>>333783
And here's finished.
a99c25 No.334193
We're on our 30th drawpile already! Even though I'm the host I am going to be a bit late to it too sadly. But the room is up.
CDUOZ
pass: waifu
a99c25 No.334257
Good pile last night.
Also for the next pile, would you guys be up for an elemental theme'd night?
e8d6e3 No.334815
so these threads have been around for about 2 years haven't they?, and that's about when I started drawing aswell, 2 years ago. How far did you others come in that timespan?
Pull out your oldest /monster/ drawing and compare it to your newest one
53ab60 No.334826
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>334257
It’s your boy, skinny penis!
29fb56 No.334998
>>289731
>>296936
>- UNCROSS YOUR LEGS AND SIT UP STRAIGHT.
But why
29fb56 No.335175
>>334257
Good work y'did here!
908e7b No.335197
New girl drawing. That Is all.
e8d6e3 No.335226
>>335197
that's pretty good, but be careful with her face, since it's one of the most important parts. Her mouth in particular is a bit long and that fang is pointing in the wrong direction I think. Also her far eyes pupil would be at the very edge of her eye, indicating shes looking left, instead show only a part of the pupil(the rest is clipped by perspective). Also where is this poor girls tail?
908e7b No.335277
I forgot the Tail. Here it Is again with better lighting.
908e7b No.335279
>>335226
>Also her far eyes pupil would be at the very edge of her eye, indicating shes looking left, instead show only a part of the pupil(the rest is clipped by perspective).
Do you have a quick example of that?
e8d6e3 No.335334
>>335279
look at the floating kiki head in the bottom right. Imagine if her far eye's pupil was facing away from us, she'd look crosseyed. Instead, you only see a part of the pupil because the rest is hidden by perspective.
a99c25 No.335363
A bit late today lads, but it is saturday and that means we must have a drawpile. No one gave a shit about having an elemental theme so we'll just proceed normally.
OQGSD
pass:waifu
185208 No.335373
>>335363
>No one gave a shit about having an elemental theme so we'll just proceed normally.
Sorry I forgot to respond to that, I like themed drawpiles
a99c25 No.335417
High energy pile tonight, the entire canvas filled. Great job everyone!
e03232 No.335618
>>335175
>>335417
Anon the blue alien from the Mother franchise is not female.
08e5ef No.335621
>>335618
You understand what r63 is, right?
e03232 No.335627
>>335621
I also understand that faggots have been using the drawpiles to push futashit and the likes. Doesn't change the fact that the first drawing of Giegue was ambiguously /chaos/-tier.
2b710d No.335694
>>289735
>>289738
>>309588
I have a question for you guys… After spending so much time studying the fine details and drawing the female figure and exciting bits, do you not become desensitized to women? I remember hearing about that long ago, I think it was JLR who said he was drawing nude women in some art class and then after a while they became boring after he had already seen it all.
I'm terrified of that, Anons. I wonder if these rule34 wizards ever reach that point where the female figure becomes trivial and boring. I don't ever want to stop loving nice boobies and women with lewd figures. Never ever.
Either way, I'm not sure if I even want to pick up drawing/art, I've already got programming to master.
ca37d5 No.335702
>>335694
Do you think Hugh Hefner became desensitized to women?
2b710d No.335733
>>335702
He didn't spend thousands of hours practicing drawing women, he took pictures of whores. Looking at whores and polishing your pole to them is entirely different than studying and mastering the finest of details of the female figure.
aadd90 No.335764
>>335226
I made another one.
abdd30 No.335906
Need a version of these two mixed together.
e9616d No.335958
>>335906
I think the redcap picture conveys the idea pretty well already
c7e9cc No.336032
Here's something guns related.
578731 No.336574
>>336032
Nice pose but there are couple of seemingly glaring anatomy issues (I'm not an expert)
a99c25 No.336671
Saturday is here, bring your waifus!
TDUMA
pass:waifu
dd4186 No.336715
Bit of a low energy pile tonight but lots still got drawn. It ended abruptly the second time my internet cacked and it seemed no one could reconnect.
77095b No.337613
77095b No.337619
Put one up. Password is ara ara and it's elemental themed.
868f12 No.337620
Im getting some connection problems when trying to join.
ca37d5 No.337624
Are you joining through the Session->Join…->Find… dialog? I'm not the usual guy and I'm not doing the room code thing don't know how so the /monster/ session is in the list if you show the age restricted ones. If there are two rooms called /monster/ join the more recent one because I just reset my connection.
ca37d5 No.337625
Actually, re: room code, try RVCTN
868f12 No.337629
No dice through the code or the server browser.
77095b No.337632
Unfortunately it looks like there will be no pile tonight.
dd4186 No.337644
Sorry about the no host tonight lads, sounds like it was buggering up again tonight anyways. I will host on sunday at the usual time to get back on track.
cca8d2 No.337659
Does anyone have any color guides for sai?
I suck ass at coloring.
dd4186 No.337739
Alright a day late but as promised, a weekly drawpile.
Tonights theme will be scales and tails, show some love to the dragons, kobolds, and lizardgirls out there!
code: JYISR
pass: waifu
79950c No.337759
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What's a good starting point for someone who hasn't drawn in a while? Where do I begin on drawing something living without making it look like utter shit?
Shared some of my sketches with /a/, but want to get some opinions here. It's mainly perspective practice. Feel free to bully.
79950c No.337762
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>>337759
Couple of my earlier sketches as well.
dd4186 No.337771
The pile was late but still had some good energy to it, see you on the right bloody day next time hopefully.
>>337759
>>337762
Just draw, getting into the habit of doing something each day is the hardest but at the very least do some lines and shapes. If you get the urge to draw something specific you goddamn do it while you have the inspiration. Plenty of guides for body bits are in this thread and there are plenty more out there (I recommend prokopenko on youtube).
aed5be No.337942
>>337759
Just draw from life as accurately as you can.
Watch Jazza on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu3ulVhO3z4
7e3b24 No.338015
While this seems good, it falls well within my comfort zone. I'm going to try to move out of it.
7424c6 No.338153
>>338015
the right eye and left cheekbone are off
116a6a No.338569
Alright everywan, it's time for another pile. I hope you've all been practicing because I sure haven't!
code: IVFIO
pass: waifu
116a6a No.338680
Lots of folks in tonight for a very lively pile, good work everyone.
08e5ef No.338723
>>338680
Is that a penanggalan in the lower left?
185208 No.338734
>>338723
It is the character Sveta from the online story Worm
1ad3b9 No.338750
How do I start? There's so much content, books, videos, tutorials. I feel lost as fuck right now.
868f12 No.338769
>>338750
Start with learning to draw with basic shapes and figuring out anatomy from there.
Tons of practice as well.
>>>/loomis/5415
This thread here has some excellent resources
116a6a No.339648
Alright lads, the pile is up.
QQJND
pass: waifu
116a6a No.339688
A quiet night for the pile but a pile nonetheless. We also learned that a liche that goes for a whole century without finding a husbando becomes a power liche in much the same way humans can become wizards.
08e5ef No.339795
>>339793
this board has IDs, newkiddo
cca8d2 No.339803
>>339688
I missed it again
fa1954 No.339834
>>337677
The eyes could use some work, her right breast looks like it’s a disc shaped flab hanging on the windowsill the way it is, and her left breast looks smaller than the right.
79950c No.339839
So with the help of alcohol and a short how to draw from gelbooru, I drew a cat girl.
Is she right?
185208 No.340116
>>338952
Your faces are getting better but your hands still have problems. You do not foreshorten them enough.
>>339834
Thanks. I knew about the eyes being shitty but I needed to hear that about the breasts.
>>339839
I assume this is one of your first drawings. It's alright for that, but at the stage you're at it would do you more good to practice, practice, practice and read Loomis books rather than to seek criticism on individual drawings.
affe06 No.340122
>>340116
Thanks! Have you looked at my Jabberwock comic?
79950c No.340126
>>340116
Any good recommendation for drawing people? That cat girl was the first humanoid drawing I made in over a decade. Hell, I only just got back into drawing that night. So far it's just cubes and gondolas.
185208 No.340265
>>340126
>Any good recommendation for drawing people?
Figure Drawing for All It's Worth by Andrew Loomis. Alternate between working through the exercises in that book and drawing stuff from observation. If you find yourself not keeping to a schedule of drawing semiregularly (Easy to slip when you haven't built the habit yet) then go to a life drawing session that meets weekly.
>>340122
>Thanks! Have you looked at my Jabberwock comic?
Is that the one posted in the cheshire cat thread? I've not been around this board too often lately but I've seen bits and pieces of it.
cca8d2 No.340287
Is there a thread to post art just to share?
I always feel really awkward posting my art in random threads.
3e274a No.340328
>>340287
That's what the drawthread is >>334867
Post it on the 8chan booru too.
116a6a No.340505
I haven't actually drawn a damn thing outside of the drawpiles in months at this point so I thought I'd knuckle down and do something. As usual the head/face gave me trouble but aside from that it felt like smooth sailing. Anything notable that needs touching up?
116a6a No.340736
It's Saturday everyone!
WNVLL
pass: waifu
cca8d2 No.340788
>>340505
Try drawing with references, you can make your own by downloading the free DAZ studio app.
665219 No.340789
>>340505
>I haven't actually drawn a damn thing outside of the drawpiles in months
Draw more nigger. I think you've improved since beginning the drawpiles so keep going.
You do a lot of 'C' shaped strokes and few 'S' shaped strokes. This is most obvious (and most detrimental) in places like the girl's right knee, the bottom of her ribcage, the shoulders, and especially the tail. Using the 'C' strokes too much makes those parts not read well as 3D forms. Contrast those strokes to the 'S' strokes at the bottoms of the breasts, which look more convincing.
You need to do more construction—I can see some errors which arise from a lack of it, such as a flat face, the girl's left hand not connecting optimally with the left forearm, and the lack of volume in the tail.
116a6a No.340793
A great pile tonight everyone.
>>340788
I'll check it out
>>340789
>draw more nigger
I am bad at that
>everything else
You got me on the C strokes, I found I had better line confidence with them. Here is the construction I did underneath, it is lacking. The face is always a bug bear, it looks awful if I try a traditional structured approach and right off if I try to anime it.
fa1954 No.340879
>>340793
>that shoggoth
”This was not the deal we struck!”
116a6a No.341882
Saturday already? Time for everyone to pile in and draw.
Today's theme shall be FORESTRY, pick a woodland mamono and go to town on them! Wood elves, treants, trolls, dryads, sylphs, alraune, or any of the fauna you can find roaming below the canopies!
YGKOH
pass: waifu
e516a1 No.342090
Little late posting saturday's pile, didn't participate much myself due to some shit, but I hope you guys had a good time and didn't get affected by the frequent disconnects at the end of the night.
d6e4ec No.343593
Pile is up, I'll not personally be there for a few hours though.
EDCNN
pass: waifu
d6e4ec No.343726
Full house last night, glad you lads got on well.
b3039f No.345399
Another saturday night calls for another pile.
CGSFS
pass:waifu
b3039f No.345523
What a pile tonight turned out to be! Lots of folks and a full canvas, great job everyone.
ca37d5 No.346489
What's the theme for the next drawpile?
191c3b No.346528
>>346489
Maybe multiple limbs? Either girls that already have more than two arms/legs, or taking a normal mg and giving them more.
b3039f No.346542
>>346489
>>346528
Tonight's pile will have the theme of DANK DUNGEONS, draw girls adventurers would encounter in the darkened halls of some backwater dungeon looking for loot!
RQPEU
pass: waifu
ca37d5 No.346566
>>346542
>RQPEU
>pass: waifu
I'll be late to join, could you please leave it running if possible
b3039f No.346623
Pretty happy with last night's pile. Any particular themes you lads would like for the next one?
9d2c1d No.346655
>>346623
>Any particular themes you lads would like for the next one?
Things that go bump in the night.
578731 No.346841
Greenworm thread reminded me of this, you should be able to pull this off too if you keep on training.
50eb6c No.346858
>>346841
I find it hard to believe that a novice would draw the one on the left to begin with
79950c No.347668
Found something that can help with monster girl drawing. Plenty of good poses in here and general guidelines to make them.
b3039f No.347784
The drawpile is here and can you guess what tonight's theme is? EASTER, GIVE THE CLASSIC BUNNYGIRLS SOME LOVE.
Also due to some bullshit ill be late to my own pile so I won't be active for a while.
IIJZF
pass: waifu
91c837 No.348443
Gonna post some thicc tutorials from an artist I really like
b3039f No.349173
>>348446
>>348444
>>348443
Nice, will have to try some of that out in tonight's pile.
WAWGS
pass:waifu
Hosting a little early but I won't be around till later.
be3491 No.349424
>>349413
>additional manticore
yiss
b3039f No.350686
Fuck, it's saturday already and with the next pile is also here.
TMHUL
waifu
b3039f No.350735
Quite the pile tonight, a nice full canvas to see.
>>346655
Bump in the night will be the theme for the next pile I think.
9d2c1d No.350757
>>350735
Jesus christ it’s spreading
37aefd No.350771
>>350757
Haunted Hellhound plushie that rides your dick and calls you prey?
08e5ef No.350977
>>350771
They're called "plushires" now, anon.
b3039f No.351719
>>346655
Alright lads its saturday and tonight we're gonna have a theme'd pile. The ladies that go bump in the night! Nigh indistinguishable from a halloween pile as far as I'm concerned but its never a bad time to get spooked or having your bones jumped.
room code: RDARS
pass: waifu
b3039f No.351763
What a pile this was, a mighty full canvas! Good work all around.
>>351418
It says demon, but he looks more taur than anything. Either way he should put the gameboy down and go for a walk.
c59f8c No.352001
>finally picked up that tablet I bought a year and a half ago
Well, we're off to a thrilling start.
4d67c4 No.352003
>>352001
>manticores soon
I'm hyped
cca8d2 No.352046
>>351763
fug I forgot the wings on my manticores
b3039f No.352495
>>352046
You will never take care of a wingless manticore who loves you because you look past her disability.
27b0cc No.352651
Drawpile night
MCZPL
waifu
27b0cc No.352724
Another really good pile and a very full canvas.
5190ad No.352738
I've been trying to incorporate poses that are more dynamic than 'Standing, and at a 3/4 angle' into my work, and I'm having a bit of trouble, especially with two people interacting with each other. I usually try to find photos to use as a reference, but I've had no such luck with anything similar to what I'm going for. Have to wing the whole thing, and it's taken me hours just to get two figures that don't look like arthritics having seizures.
I still feel like the blue figure's pose is off but i can't place my finger on it, was wondering if someone could help point out what I've done wrong. Anything else that sticks out as needing improvement would be highly welcomed as well.
I use Adobe Illustrator CS5.1, everything is in vector format.
04632c No.352965
>>352738
In my opinion, it looks to me that blue's proportions are off. Compared to green's legs, for example, her legs are equal to the size of green's lower leg alone. This would indicate she is of a much smaller size, like a goblin for example.
If she is supposed to be that small, then her torso might need to cut some size down. Going back to green's legs again (since he seems to be the dominant part of the piece, he basically becomes the reference for everything else), his lower leg segment is about the same as the length as a line from his groin to his neck. Blue, however, extends quite a bit past that, even while bent. Based on her tummy line, she should be bending towards the viewer, causing a need to foreshorten her torso. In other words, she should lose length, not gain more.
Assuming she is not small, like a goblin, then making her legs a bit longer while also giving her more bend at the waist should help her appear more normally sized.
Hope this helps!
5190ad No.353020
>>352965
She's supposed to be taller, i hadn't realized how small I had made her. And your advice helped immensely, I think this turned out better (I think).
I made her thighs shorter, calves longer, legs longer over all, made her torso twist a bit more, put her hips into the turn, adjusted her arms accordingly, and leaned her head back a bit.
Made the green figure lean in a bit more, his head turned further back, left leg a little more extended to put more of his body into the leaning motion.
Thinking this seems a bit more natural. Wanted to avoid having blue stick her hips out, since I'm trying to keep her looking chaste. But I wasn't sure if putting more leg and less spine is natural looking at this new height.
bbe3d2 No.353479
Hey, how do I actually sit down and draw? Each time I think about doing it, I imagine all the shitty drawings i'd make and immediately try to do something else.
04632c No.353487
>>353020
She looks taller to me now, for sure. I'm not sure I see anything wrong her torso to leg ratio, but that might be the minimalist design you currently have. I also love the change to the dude's leg, he looks way less stiff now!
>>353479
After taking a break from drawing for a few years, I found that working on the requests from the drawthread helped me. Everything I started off with looked like hot garbage I would never post, but wanting to make something that would give the requester a smile gave me the motivation to continue. Plus, if you post even little scribbles into this thread, you can get direct feedback to help improve. Some users also drink some liquid courage, for that confidence to work/post
It's different for everyone, but using someone's request to help focus your mind's eye might help. Also, in before "just do it"
27b0cc No.353558
>>353479
For me you gotta feel it, often I'll spend an hour or two digging for the right piece of music that gets my dong throbbing and I'll pound something out.
Anyways it's saturday so time to pile in lads.
YUHRX
waifu
affed2 No.353765
>>353558
WHERE'S THE IMAGE
27b0cc No.353935
>>353765
Sorry, its a bit late this time.
aab48b No.354314
>>289731
>second pic
>a gif
here is a webm
27b0cc No.354482
Alright sorry I'm late hosting the pile.
Tonight's theme is WITCHCRAFT, draw witches, their familiars, their ara dark mage mentors, liches can cum too.
MWGJH
pass: waifu
04632c No.354500
Just in case anyone else is as oblivious to the world as I am when you have your tunes going; try to remember to look at chat every now and then. Sorry suspicious! Also, you said to post it today, so here it is.
27b0cc No.354511
>>354500
Thanks.
Also next week is our 50th pile, half way to 100! Are you lads interested in doing something special for next week? Got any suggestions for a special pile?
519f20 No.355034
>>354511
How about older monstergirls?
27b0cc No.355492
>>355034
Sure why not?
Time for our 50th drawpile! Ara ara~ edition
FXNVJ
waifu
bbe3d2 No.355533
Been trying to get back into drawing but my shit sucks.
Any books or tips on how to get better or a least to continue without hating whatever I make?
How do all of you get past those initial bouts of self-hate?
27b0cc No.355538
>>355533
>How do all of you get past those initial bouts of self-hate?
You don't
519f20 No.355543
>>355533
By telling yourself everyone else was shit at some point and it’s better late than never to draw pictures of your waifu and eventual daughterus.
27b0cc No.355566
Pile hijacked by trolls, beware bridges.
bbe3d2 No.355893
What's the best place to start for someone who's absolutely terrible at drawing?
519f20 No.355904
>>355893
Are you going to keep shitting on yourself and expect pity points or actually learn how to draw? If it’s the latter it might help to read the OP and thread.
bbe3d2 No.355911
>>355904
Been trying different books and exercises.
>Drawing on the right side of the brain.
>How to draw in 30 days.
>Keys To Drawing by Bert Dodson
Life drawing by drawing my hand creates a hideous blob. Everything else looks like shit and causes me to give up the drawing partway through. Every time I attempt a lesson, i find some way to fuck it all up.
So i'm wondering if there's a specific starting point for someone who is just plain shit. Maybe some formulaic guide on what specific books or lessons are needed to not suck anymore.
519f20 No.355916
>>355911
Have you got your fundamentals nailed down? Try any of the other resources provided or on /loomis/?
Better yet, show us what you can do. I’m not an artist, but maybe an actual one will come by and point you in the right direction.
bbe3d2 No.355921
>>355916
Back around a year ago, my drawings were these. >>337759 and >>337762
>>339839 is one of my attempts at something humanoid
These are some of the things I draw earlier and dug out from my trash bin. Mostly practice, but fuck do I hate them.
519f20 No.355928
>>355921
Again not an artist, but I have two suggestions. One would be to start drawing complex objects that aren’t people at least once a day. The difficulty is in just doing it daily. My other suggestion is just draw something like a hand or paw or torso and post it here, we critique it, you draw it again to the best of your ability and we critique it again and see if you can improve on it further. I wouldn’t focus on a whole person or fine details like a face yet.
I doubt you’ll take it seriously I never do but don’t worry about making mistakes when you’re learning. If da vinci or some other artist were there looking at your drawings they wouldn’t just “lmao newfag” and proceed to physically vomit on your art just because you’re new and make mistakes when trying to get better.
bbe3d2 No.356465
So I made some hands. Some from an infographic earlier in this thread. One from a book. Two from life drawing my own hand.
How are they?
Figured I might as well practice on one body part at a time until I get decent enough to put them together.
27b0cc No.356530
Saturday has rolled around again and it's time to pile up!
PCKLX
pass: waifu
27b0cc No.356604
Great pile tonight. Also RIP dan.
fc0d19 No.356730
>>334998
Late on this by months, but you generally want to have good posture when your drawing.
Drawing with your whole arm means that you'll shift the upper body, if your posture is good it will improve your stability.
draw not just with your arm, but your entire body as well
27b0cc No.356989
>>356730
Sadly I've built up the bad habit of drawing only with my wrist and I go full preschool shit scribbles if I attempt to get the arm involved.
04632c No.357050
>>356465
There is room for improvement, but it's nothing practice can't help. My advice is to learn how to "trace." Not line for line; instead, put basic shapes over other images. Doing this will let you see how parts (not just hands, but bodies, objects, anything else) are formed, and how they fit together.
One question though, if you don't mind. How hard are you pressing down with your pencil? From the way it looks drawn, it feels like you are really pressing your pencil down, and committing to your lines. If you are, try lightly sketching your lines first. If you do, then you'll be able to go back and erase/fix your mistakes. For example, the top left thumbs up has a really small wrist. The way it is right now, you can't fix it without leaving ugly line remnants.
In summary; you made recognizable shapes, but there are a few proportion issues throughout most of your examples. Draw lightly, then darken the lines you want to keep. Try "tracing" a few hands for practice (or actually trace, whatever helps you grow.). Don't be afraid to post more pictures, that's what this thread is for!
bbe3d2 No.357092
>>357050
I normally press doen a bit hard on my pencil. Never quite got the light tracing part down.
Any good references for proportion? That's another thing i've had trouble with.
04632c No.357093
>>357092
If you're having trouble with pressing down too hard, buy a pencil variety pack. It will come in various hardness types (2B, H, etc…) and can help compensate for that. Alternatively, you could hold your pencil closer to the eraser.
As for proportions, get used to sizing things with your eyes. I can't advise too much, since it's still a problem I have, but the more you practice the better it will become. Good luck!
fc0d19 No.357464
Just some stuff for fun.
Not to focused on finished stuff because I'm building fundamentals on my train ride to work.
27b0cc No.357546
No pile last night since 8ch was down, but I'll host one tonight at the usual time to make up for it.
27b0cc No.357624
The time has cum.
IPMWL waifu
27b0cc No.357722
>>357624
Nice work lads, I can see improvement.
d924e7 No.357804
Why is everyone drawing in anime style?
The west is incredibly heavy with monstergirls.
Is everyone an asian here?
bbe3d2 No.357905
>>357804
Modern western drawing styles are usually either terrible or connected with degeneracy.
Classical western art style is still too difficult to most.
Classical western > Anime > Modern Western
Mainly, it's because most people are basing it off of MGE for reference.
34802a No.357948
>>357804
Gonna need to see some of your art my dude
0735d5 No.357951
>>357948
>>357905
I have to admit that it is incredibly difficult to draw appealing western art but I will challenge myself with it instead of just sayind "anime is not an artform".
I just have to look through the fine arts for something that might approximate things.
Maybe pre raffaelite or something.
>western art is degenerate
I think western art shines when it is actually made into something romantic, and this is the last bastion of romance, after all.
But yeah, I'm waiting for a cintiq pro preorder to come through.
I will practice on paper in the meantime, but all I have there is pencil.
I might just upload some things if I manage to get something going, although I do not know when.
But I will try to lead by example somehow.
0735d5 No.357952
>>357951
>Maybe pre raffaelite or something.
Raphaelite, I mean.
Also, without the somewhat habsburg jew vibe.
But I think it has potential.
00344a No.358264
Im a fairly new artist, ive been doodling for many years, but ive started practicing with a purpose a while ago. I dont like taking shortcuts and im taking the 'very high difficulty' route. In any case i might stick around cuz i love monstergirls. Especially red/blue oni babes. Pic related are a couple of my finishes and 99% of my scraps are 'practice sessions'. Hope we get along :D
34802a No.358276
>>358264
Drop the name and try joining in the drawpiles and you'll be well on your way.
00344a No.358289
>>358276
Is it possible to do so with a phone?
d3b3b4 No.358439
>>358264
Same guy here.
So ive been learning the human muscle & bone anatomy in sections starting with the hands. Hands > arms > torso > pelvis / legs / feet > neck and head (this order seems the most logical as far as difficulty goes). Each part for 2 months. The idea is to get an anatomically and proportionally correct meat man loli so i csn start having more freedom with drawing figures. With this being said how do this look?
10f723 No.358445
>>358439
>how does this look
Like you need to use the crop tool.
Also one leg is clearly thicker than the other but then the foot is all stumpy compared to the other.
d3b3b4 No.358446
>>358445
Thanks much; ill try a couple more of these and attempt to use a bit more….asymmetry. as well as adjust the 1st one to make it look more correct
d3b3b4 No.358447
>>358446
>>>358445
>Thanks much; ill try a couple more of these and attempt to use a bit more….asymmetry. as well as adjust the 1st one to make it look more correct
To add, i made the image huge so i can fit much more on there.
10f723 No.358563
It's that time everywan.
CRNOJ
waifu
10f723 No.358618
Pretty dead night, I'd gotten used to how lively the piles have been.
c8176a No.358623
>>358618
I see we got visited by Late night once again, also, is that hhhori by the center there or one of ours? The little "I'm a fairy" bit? Whoever drew the smol ushi deserves a medal.
a7c5d7 No.358638
What's the best way to get motivated to knuckle down and do some drawing? Whenever I try to draw I feel an intense urge to stop and do something else, anything else. It's the same feeling I used to get in school doing maths.
21c6da No.358663
>>358638
That question has been answered a few times in this thread. Feel free to explore the thread! It has some wonderful advice and tips on all sorts of things art-related.
While I have you, let me just say that if you have to force yourself, then you aren't going to draw your best. It's like any other hobby; we do it because we have fun, and love doing it. So, if you really do want to draw, make it fun. Don't worry about the small stuff, just pick out a crazy idea you like, and go for it. If you just can't enjoy it, then maybe it's not the hobby for you. No one will judge you for choosing something else to do.
If you just want to do something so you can support the board, then writefags are always welcome, or just participate in discussions. Any activity is better than no activity.
Whatever you choose to do, don't let it be a grind!
>>358623
I think the fairy was also Late Night. And thanks!
a7c5d7 No.358694
Can I get good just by tracing other peoples work and combining styles of different artists instead of coming up with something original myself? Sort of like how I can make really complicated PHP scripts that do useful things by copying other peoples code and combining it together to form something new.
2d3ced No.359051
>>358694
"Combining styles" is an art in itself and takes at least as much skill to produce as the art that is being synthesized. A trace is pretty much always going to look like someone traced it.
You can get good by just enjoying the creative process, the art emerging from your mind and your hands. Try not to be too self conscious about the process.
00344a No.359143
Someone say oc? This is an oldie but what do think?
00344a No.359144
>>358663
I expect to get better at drawing. I tried it before and i lost due to demotivation. I won't let it happen again. I enjoy drawing, and i want to do more than still portraits. Practicing is truly boring but i think thats what makes the fruit so tasty when its time to boring. I want that succulent fruit of lolis.
00344a No.359145
>>359144
>typo
….when its time to harvest.
00344a No.359150
>>359145
Not sure what i was thinking here. Just trying different angles.
a7c5d7 No.359173
Quick progress report; I bought a cheap drawing tablet and replaced my mouse with it. For the past week I've been using it every day for all computer tasks, clicking links, highlighting text, resizing windows, etc. I'm now an absolute pro with the drawing tablet. And I learned something really important; whether it's a pencil, a mouse, or a tablet doesn't really matter. I still suck at drawing.
56c772 No.359195
>>359173
Im pretty certain there are other artists with much less skill. Any examples of your works?
519f20 No.359201
>>359143
It’s a start. The body looks pretty good but most of it looks very 2D. Most notably the legs, hair and tail. The horns look more like they're folding over eachother rather than curving. If I were to prioritize what to fix probably the tail or legs first. The left leg has an incredibly long thigh as well.
56c772 No.359233
>>359201
Itd long due to give it a re draw. But im a bit anxious tbh anon-kun
3ab4e3 No.359337
>>359276
Sorry for spam guys.
10f723 No.359635
Little late hosting tonight but here we go!
JUNUP
pass: waifu
c70f1c No.360183
I finished a new mge
Model hyena
c70f1c No.360184
>>360183
>I finished a new mge
>Model hyena
>
Oops forgot pic
a74845 No.360737
>>360703
Leg in the bottom is too stubby, as a rule of them the length from the feet to the knee is almost the same to the length from the knee to the bottom of the torso.
The one in the left looks weird but I don't know enough anatomy to say why exactly, most glaring issues are the torso being too straight, since the ribcare is a bit curved and the straight legs, there's a bit of a dent inward in the space between the top of the pelvis and the bone of the leg. Have a shitty oekaki you probably won't understand.
b355fb No.360740
Another saturday is rolling around
IXXUW
pass: waifu
Also any suggestions for a theme for next pile? We haven't had a theme in a while.
f5902e No.360778
>>360775
I think i learned something from this picture just now.
b355fb No.360784
>>360778
Well, share with the class.
5777dc No.360819
>>360740
It's summer so summer related things like beachs or something
f5902e No.360824
>>360784
If im thinking what i think i am, i think i csn start drawing in 3d space
f5902e No.360825
>>360737
I think i understand
97d14f No.361305
>>360875
>>>360184 (You)
>1 work a week
>is this anatomy better?
I see the power of references for real now.
bbe3d2 No.361410
Any good lesson plan to follow to git gud at drawing?
Any way to get motivation to draw? Haven't drawn for a while.
6374d3 No.361651
One hell of a heatwave for this drawpile, and since anon also suggested it. Tonight's pile will be the monstergirl summer splash! How is your waifu keeping cool this season?
RQAHC
waifu
6374d3 No.361712
An arousing success. Next pile will be regular as to avoid having themes one after another. But would any of you be down for a SPACE waif theme at some point?
165946 No.361752
d68cd2 No.362152
I'm getting a reaction one way or the other.
6374d3 No.362155
>>362152
Try not to close you eyes before firing.
6374d3 No.362516
Time to pile in lads
WGGKO
pass: waifu
6374d3 No.362540
Pretty amazing night with lots of people on. Some real talent on display too!
c5836c No.362545
>>362540
>Latenight
>Those gremlins
Man, I really missed out, huh? Who drew the busty gremlins, does he have more?
165946 No.362570
>>362540
>more art of dragonfruit dragon
Nice.
2d9fd2 No.362832
Just some sketches I scanned in
6374d3 No.363085
Abandoned this a little while ago, figured I may as well throw it up.
c25cad No.363120
>>362598
I'm not sure why you're just dropping this with basically no context. If you are looking for criticism, just say so. If not, then you can submit it to the drawthread.
Anyway, since I'm talking about it, I'm gonna give a short, general criticism. If you want something more specific, longer, etc, say so. Solid design work overall, it's easy to tell what's what even though the image is black and white, which can be a difficult thing to do. The major problems I'm seeing is some issues with general anatomy, whatever inking device you used "getting away" from you, and a general lack of line confidence. For example, her right foot follows a different perspective than the rest of her, you have stray lines walking around her talons for no reason, and the darker parts are inconsistent along their length. Once again, nice work, but needs refinement.
>>362811
Better than your other image. It feels like you used a good reference image, since it has a different feel than the other works you have posted before (which is a good thing, references are our friends). I personally would like to see all your sketchy lines cleaned up or erased, but solid work nonetheless
>>362832
You seem to be doing okay at setting up your figures as a base, but there are some wonky proportions here and there. For example, hands are usually about the size of your face, not half as much. I'd rather see a more complete figure to look at, instead of messy sketches, but it's a good start.
>>363085
I like it. It's clean, has good colors, and a good pose. One of the major issues I'm seeing, her groin seems to be jutting out of her pelvis, instead of following the natural curve. Her feet also seem to be a little small. It doesn't need a lot of work, so good job
6374d3 No.363133
>>363120
Yeah Foot size with those kinds of poses always get me. The groin is part of way I decided to move on.
Threw something together today
38c237 No.363158
>>363120
If asking for help is not too much, would you try showing me a correction?
c25cad No.363169
>>363158
Asking for help isn't too much at all, it's the point of the thread. So feel free to ask advice any time, just remember it might be a bit before someone responds. In any case, I don't mind at all, but your ID is different than any other post. Which image is yours, or do you have any other images you'd like to see?
>>363133
Nice! The chest is a bit wonky, but I like the coloring.
6374d3 No.363177
>>363169
Yeah, usually you draw breasts laying against the chest but I was having trouble when she's leaning forward and they are hanging.
b80b61 No.363178
>How 2 draw gud
>Anime
Topkek
38c237 No.363185
>>309920
>>318451
>>318931
>>319360
>>321301
>>327043
It's all of these ones and the rest of the comic, and still more.
38c237 No.363240
c25cad No.363260
>>363240
Here's a couple of examples. I tried to make it easy to read, but let me know if it doesn't make sense.
Something that looks like it would help you in several images, is just drawing a straight guideline through the pieces of your bodies. The scales on her arm, for example, could be more easily lined up with a straight line as a base of direction.
Hope this helps!
38c237 No.363265
>>363260
Oh gods the heads are the wrong size and now I can't unsee it. I will need to bash my head on the desk now.
c25cad No.363273
>>363265
It's not about the mistakes we make, but the lessons we are willing to learn when we make them. So please refrain from damaging that good ol' head of yours XD
If you have anything else that you want specifically reviewed, or a new piece that you don't know how to finish, feel free to drop by anytime.
8273a0 No.363311
Fuck shit slime girl.
The more time I spend polishing this turd, the more I hate it.
I know that my plants suck. But what about the figure? Any tips on drawing girls that are actually appealing?
72aac1 No.363312
Make her nose not take up 60% of her face. Otherwise I like it.
8273a0 No.363329
>>363312
Thanks for pointing that out, Anon! I'll double check proportions next time.
95b4d3 No.363415
Saturday already? It begins.
IFBTY
waifu
95b4d3 No.363445
A quiet if productive pile tonight.
6944ba No.363456
>>363445
>>363445
too bad I missed it
bbe3d2 No.363828
Crap, it's been a while since I last drew anything.
Where did you all start off at? Any good plans for beginners?
938043 No.364091
So I know jack shit about drawing, my skills are equal to a toddler. So I started to draw following the drawabox tutorials for 1 hour every single day. I know that it's subjective, but how many years would I need to practice to get fairly decent/good at it?
adcf22 No.364097
Alright lads, starting a little late but it's time for another pile!
XJFHU
waifu
>>364091
10,000 hours is the standard for mastery.
>>363828
Just start drawan things you are interested in drawan
ec483f No.364102
So, this Is only tangentially related to monster girls, but here it is. You can give a critique.
adcf22 No.364147
Whelp, posted the pile in the wrong thread before passing out. Now that that is fixed, great pile last night, even got some collab in which we oughtta do more of.
5eff7f No.364164
>>364091
That depends entirely how good "fairly decent/good" is for you.
f8cfe5 No.364618
I want to get good at drawing just so i can draw alps and piss off that one anon that hates them.
>tfw in the near future alps will have more content than his waifu.
bbe3d2 No.364638
>>364618
>that one anon that hates them
Everyone hates alps. The only people who don't are faggots.
adcf22 No.365056
adcf22 No.365088
Bit of a quiet pile tonight, but that isnt always bad.
bbe3d2 No.365449
What are good books or lessons to follow if your drawing is ass no matter what you do?
aa1f10 No.365514
Any tips on cel shading?
WIP related.
74602f No.365638
I should've gone to sleep. Instead, I drew this. Any feedback is appreciated.
8030df No.365724
Saturday is here, you all know what that means by now.
LQGHC
waifu
8030df No.365727
>>365724
Actually, it's been ages since we had a theme.
Tonight's theme shall be DESSERT, draw your waifus with or being given their favorite sweets'n'treats
88f577 No.365788
So yeah, if I could get some criticism on this cowgirl, that would be great.
436634 No.365789
>>365788
A bit of manjaw, but otherwise decent.
88f577 No.365792
c25cad No.365814
>>365788
Well, to start off, I will say you did a great job. I love the coloring here, and you chose a much better color for shading here than the other one (sorry I don't have any advice for cell shading).
With that said, there are a couple of issues that I see. First, her left ear. Her head is turned to the right, so we shouldn't see an equal amount of ear on both sides. The left ear should have more visible, or the right should have less visible. In addition, her left ear seems to be attached to the back of her skull. This wouldn't be a problem, but her right ear seems to be on the side of her skull, so there's no consistency. If her left ear is meant to be on the back of her skull, then it should be getting light to it, and not be completely in shade.
Looking at her right side, her body is turned to the left. Looking at her belly, however, it looks like her belly button is on her right side, and not in line with the center. Maybe she was born that way, but it looks unnatural to have a belly button so clearly shifted over.
The shading on her shirt is nice, but it's so nice it actually draws attention to the "simpleness" of the shirt. While you do have a few wrinkles on her chest, no shirt that isn't body paint sits so smooth and skin tight on the body, especially with so much mass distorting it. Coming down from the shoulders to her breasts, the cloth wouldn't be vacuum sealed against her flesh. The right side also seems to interrupt the flow of her shoulder unnaturally. The left side looks good in that regard. The bottom of her shirt is curved in the opposite direction of your perspective, unless that's just a weird cut of the cloth itself. Under her breasts is also where the most amount of wrinkles would be, unless this thing is made out of latex.
She also appears to have no collar bone. The indication of such would have been a great way to break up the stark smoothness of her shirt. Finally, this just in reference to board tastes, so don't worry about too much, but her nose shape is a little inhuman. The bottom part is flat, making it more snout-like. Not an issue if you were posting elsewhere, but I've seen too many arguments break out here over something like that.
Hope this was helpful!
c25cad No.365816
>>365638
To start off, I may not really know what's happening, but it gave me a chuckle.
I'm not sure what sort of feedback you're looking for. Since the piece doesn't look finished, I'm not sure if you want direction on where to go next, or criticism on the composition. So I'll give a couple notes on what I see, and you can let me know if you want anything else.
Right now, she has "spaghetti" hair. Too many lines to indicate hair, but no actual volume. A good tip for hair, is start with a general flow shape, the work down to locks of hair, then add in some strands.
Her arms are looking good, with the scales not twisting around her arm like in some of your older pieces. Good improvement!
I'm not sure if she's wearing a dress, or if she is built like a lamia (which…I would actually be okay with). Even in a dress, you should still see lines indicating her left leg, especially with how tight her dress seems. Unless she's a lamia, of course. Jabberwocky with tail cuddling power…requires further research.
I like the texture on the chicken. Just be careful not to make all you texture lines the same length or shape, and it will help your work feel more natural.
Really, the only two things you are missing to make this a finished piece, is to define your lines and clean up all the sketchy bits. Nice job!
88f577 No.365826
>>365814
Thanks a lot anon! You really did help me out - I thought that the biggest issue would be values, but after your crit I see it's the anatomy and the underlying drawing (like on the shirt) that needs improving.
Thanks again!
c25cad No.365833
>>365826
Good to hear! Don't forget to post it again if you make any changes, I'd love to see it.
88f577 No.365834
>>365833
Thanks, but to be honest I'm tired of that drawing.
But if you're interested, I'll make and post a completely new drawing next month to gauge my progress as an artist. Until then I'll be grinding anatomy.
74602f No.365851
>>365816
Something like this?
c25cad No.365878
>>365851
Yes, more like that. The top moreso than the bottom head. It's the same reason I'll say for you next image
>>365857
I said this before, but this looks good. I see you added in the leg line (which is almost disappointing XD), and really cleaned it up.
My only real complaint is the hair. It's seems like it's supposed to be blowing in the wind, but only the back parts seem to effected. On top of that, it's going in all sorts of directions. Unless there's some crazy winds, there should be a general flow to the whole shape of the hair. In fact you already provided a good example of what I mean in your previous image, with the top head. This picture has a porcupine effect, so the there's no path for the eyes to follow. Not that every strand of hair has to be shaped/curved the same, but there should be an overall consistency.
Have you ever thought about loading these into an art program so you could color/ink these? There are several good free ones you could use. Even if you don't have a tablet, and can only use mouse, it might be worth looking into. I used to do the same for my entire highschool/college experience, so give it a thought.
Anyway, come back with another piece!
>>365834
Sure! And I feel ya about getting tired about a piece, don't worry about it.
74602f No.365962
>>365878
So many PIECES, so many little pieces.
I did try digital, it frustrates me, so slow and unresponsive if your computer is derpy.
Again, thanks for any feedback.
a74845 No.366192
Do you fags touch the paper/table when drawing or do you try not to touch anything with your arms?
I've been trying the latter for a while now, but my lines are still as shaky as when I first started, then all the line practice seems to suddenly pay off when I use my elbow/wrist for support.
5777dc No.366207
>>366192
You're not doing japanese calligraphy you can touch the paper with your arms. Just make sure not to scrap it against the paper too much if you're using a messy pen/penicl
5c39f2 No.366415
Saturday evening is here!
LNWHS
waifu
5c39f2 No.366443
Was a very gratifying pile for me tonight and some really nice work from everyone else!
74602f No.366579
-Hands
-Foreshortening
Read in Jim Gaffigan's voice.
*sob sob* WHY MUST I DO THIS TO MYSELF *sob sob*
c25cad No.366658
>>363311
Surprising no one has commented on this yet. In regards to your question, the first thing that immediately jumps out at me is her chin. It's a little hard to tell, since lighting on slimes is tricky, but the outline of the chin looks off. Her face is looking towards her right, but her chin is mounted on the left side.
Another thing, you have "muscles" showing in her neck, which doesn't matter because she's a slime, so she can do what she wants. But for a slim build like hers, she really doesn't need such defined muscle tone.
Lastly, the water she's formed from is wildly separated from her. Normally, slimes have a seamless transition from puddle to body, but you have a defined border between the two. Part of it is how you used different blues, and another part is how the light treats each substance differently (no shadow by the hands, for instance.). If that's a personal choice, that's fine. It's just a bit jarring.
Other than that, I don't really see any problem with the form, colors, etc… It looks great!
I'm not sure what to tell you about appealing figures, because you already have in my eyes. So, my question to you is what do you find appealing?
c25cad No.366662
>>366579
Figure-wise, she looks good. Hand-wise, why are all her fingers the same length?
00344a No.366956
hi friends; i used to post here but now im here to stay. i can participate in draw piles, but it'll be hell using a fuckin mouse pad. with this being said ive still been practicing like always.
00344a No.366959
>>366956
hi friends; i used to post here but now im here to stay. i can participate in draw piles, but it'll be hell using a fuckin mouse pad. with this being said ive still been practicing like always.
but i still feel ive only moved but an inch.
74602f No.367144
Here, I bring Ryu. Feedback is always appreciated.
74602f No.367193
Just for the Chastity thread, I Drew this too. It is supposed to be in low single perspective.
7d1511 No.367215
Saturday drawpile incoming! Make your waifus real.
LARRH
waifu
7d1511 No.367236
Doozy of a pile tonight! High energy, lots of drawan got done. Even had to increase the size of the canvas. Great work everyone.
f2fbc3 No.367253
>>366658
Thanks for pointing those things out, anon! I really appreciate that - I'll know what to look out for in the future.
>So, my question to you is what do you find appealing?
…that's a good question. I was focusing on what an average guy would find interesting rather than on my own tastes, because I want to start doing commissions asap. But maybe I was going about this the wrong way… I'll think about it. Thanks again.
c25cad No.367300
>>367253
No problem! Don't forget to post more here or in the drawthread.
If you plan on doing comissions, the customer will tell you what they want. So, don't worry too much about that part. After all, they wouldn't pay you to draw something if they didn't like what you can do.
>>367144
Anatomy wise, she looks fine. Her pose seems unnatural though. It seems like her arms go straight down, since her elbows attach to her sides. This makes it feel stiff, and uncomfortable to do in real life. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's the impression I'm getting.
>>367193
The bottom half is the right perspective, but her chest is not. We should be seeing the bottom her breasts, and how they rest on her ribs. This would also cover up the view of her neck. Mikey has a good video on it, but here's an image of it to help.
I notice you leave a lot of sketchy lines in your drawings. If you'd like an easy way to have clean lines without having to manually erase all the sketchiness, try tracing the final lines on another sheet of paper. That way, you can leave your original sketch untouched. You don't have to, just something to keep in mind.
74602f No.367307
>>367300
Thanks. Here's More perspective misadventures.
Mimiru's Gift + Aerial Rave face.
Just imagine industrial amounts of tentacles everywhere.
74602f No.367386
Is this a good base for foreshortening?
74602f No.367394
This maybe clearer version of >>367307 is here just to request redlines.
00344a No.367431
>>367300
this looks like a good find. thank you.
7d1511 No.367973
Pile is up, also any thoughts about moving the piles over to the drawfag thread?
MHPRE
waifu
00344a No.367994
>>367973
is drawpile still up?
c25cad No.367995
>>367994
As of the time of writing this, yes
7d1511 No.368017
An amazing pile, had to expand the canvas multiple times.
c25cad No.368714
>>367394
Sorry, I wanted to do a red line for this earlier, but I've been busy with my own projects, and also a bit lazy. I will go ahead and give some advice, so I hope it still helps.
For starters, her chest is the first thing that jumps out as a problem. From this perspective, there really isn't a reason for the bottom of her chest to be incomplete. If this were a bottom up shot, it would be okay, but we can still see the top of everything else, so it's a top down view. Secondly, be careful where you choose to start the curve of her breasts. Her right tit has actually started from her left pectoral, which is why it looks so much bigger than her left tit. Keep in mind her center line, which should be the middle of her rib cage. While a large chest might curve towards the center, it starts on the respective side. I tried to give a basic example, while following with your current figure, but I might would turn my own tear drop shapes outward just a little bit more.
Her hands look a little funny to me, but I can't really put my finger on why right now. I suggest taking a picture of your own hand in the same pose, and comparing the two together. That will help you more than I can on this and future pieces.
>>367881
Sorry for being late with this, but welcome newfriend! Please feel free to join our weekly Drawpiles anytime. Even if you want to draw (because I also hate drawing with a mouse), you can still come in to chat with everyone.
Now, since you are posting pictures in this thread, and not the draw thread, I'm going to assume you want some critiques. My first critique is for all the drawings you have posted so far. While there are some anatomy issues throughout your work, the thing that bugs me the most is the inconsistent linework. I've mentioned this several times in other critiques, but it's important to realize what kind of image the drawing is, before you can call it complete. For example, the red oni in >>367906 has both inked lines and not inked lines. If this is supposed to be a sketch, don't ruin the natural feel of sketch lines with ink here and there. Alternatively, don't ink only half the lines of the image is supposed to be polished. It's a quick way to make a fun or simple piece feel like a mess. If you are nervous about ruining the drawing with ink, then I recommend using a second sheet of paper and tracing your lines there, to leave the original intact. This makes cleaning up the lines much easier (because there are no lines to clean up), and gives you security in preserving what you liked about the original sketch.
There are too many drawings to do a complete critique of all of them in this post, so if you want to hear more, then please post which one you would like the most, or even a new image to be looked at.
With all that said, allow me to say welcome once again!
967669 No.368793
>>368714
Thanks. Here's a free image.
00344a No.368835
>>368714
thank you very much anon-kun. i'll acknowledge yes, my inconsistency is relatively lacking compared to my other….skill sets. so yes, i will be more consistent or at least work on getting better line work.
00344a No.368836
>>368835
also yes, i will also pick mostly the ones that i WANT to be critiqued instead of spamming everything. it's good to be back.
7d1511 No.368891
Alright for everyone expecting the weekly drawpile here it is.
FKJDU
waifu
This will be the last time the pile is hosted in this thread, I feel that the piles are drowning out the helpful tutorials and feedback so after this week it will posted in the draw thread.
>>364885
8ae9dc No.369018
>>368891
bit of advice, just remove monsterboy/furshit before posting it. that retard threw a wrench on this weeks drawpile.
68711b No.369508
>>367394
>>368714
I tried again. Maybe I'll draw Mercé later.
40d739 No.370549
>>368891
>FKJDU
Is it already over?
40d739 No.370551
>>370549
>09/02/18
nevermind
32f196 No.370552
Bumping the thread with More baa.
428973 No.371495
>>367193
>>367300
I did another attempt with Vampy-chan attempting cosplay.
But who is she cosplaying as?
428973 No.371496
>>371495
Why, camera, why?
ad6bce No.371556
More meta than art but do people generally have a drawing device on hand, or a scanner or something? Part of my hesitation in starting is that I get way more embarrassed looking at physical work I've done, but I also don't wanna invest a lotta money in learning how to draw.
fcac97 No.372355
>>371496
I'm like >>370552 >>371556, I have only traditional means right now. Also in the middle of a job search so sketching might be delayed for me. But I just found a sketchbook of mine from 08' It has at least one Mamono. A smug elf. I might make this one innocent girl an angel or similar as well. The only thing that ruins this sketchbook, it has old pictures I drew of my ex at the time. That's the only bad connotation that makes me flustered.
Just get yourself a sketchbook/pad that feels right to you and then pick up a Drawing pencil set. Shouldn't run too much. Check out the tutorials here and elsewhere that's linked and have at it.
fcac97 No.372356
I meant, >>371556 my bad.
bbe3d2 No.372867
Is there anything like a drawing for idiots book? I keep churning out shit whenever I draw, hate my work, give up for a while, then repeat the cycle.
How do I actually draw?
502a3d No.372937
>>372867
No amount of books will ever stop the majority of what you churn out to be utter trash.
If you want to draw cute monstergirls, draw monstergirls until one happens to be cute.
If your monstergirl isn't cute, post her here and if you're lucky somebody can guide you into the right direction.
If you do have a cute monstergirl, think hard about what makes her cute and the rest not, and try to replicate it once again.
If you can, then you just learned something, now try to draw monstergirls with her as a standard, don't lose what made her cute, until you understand what it is that makes her cute.
After that, you should be able to draw something that isn't trash, but don't think you'll ever be able to completely shake that feeling of inadequacy because as soon as you are able to draw a better monstergirl, your standard rises in turn.
Looking at pictures of artists that you like, and incorporating elements from them is also a good way to learn.
But don't just draw boxes all day in different perspectives and think to yourself after box 20 gorillion and 5 you'll magically be able to draw cute monstergirls.
fcac97 No.373054
Whoops. posted smugelf in wrong thread. Its only a sketch so it belongs here and its not a request.
8ef2e5 No.373446
>>372867
That's a very good question!
If only OP wasn't such a lazy bastard - he should've put some good how to draw book and site recommendations for beginners right there, at the top of the thread, to be clearly visible for everyone who visits this thread…
Sarcasm aside, if you don't know how to even hold your pencil, then start with "Keys to Drawing". It will teach you how to draw exactly what you see in front of you. If you don't know that, then drawing what you see only in your imagination will be pretty much impossible for you.
Also this: >>372937
And ignore OP when he recommends DrawABox - it's literally ISIS.
>>373054
Those lines are pretty scratchy - you should practice drawing long, clean lines. But a bigger problem are proportions of your figure: try following a guide next time; there are some nice ones in Loomis books. Good luck next time Anon, you're on the right path.
501592 No.374364
Here's some stuff I drew for /loomis/' theme thread.
Volume is fucking hard.
0dca43 No.374727
>>374696
Gonna be frank here and say that hair style is absolutely hideous.
519f20 No.374799
>>374696
The mouth is off-centre and the arms look a bit too thin. Also the haircut is pretty bad like the other anon said. Aside from that the rest of the body looks okay but I’m no expert in anatomy.
559f0c No.374842
A handy horn reference guide. Also a practice butt.
bf8592 No.375373
Does someone have a good tutorial image on how to draw harpy wings?
501592 No.375719
>>375373
Just study bird wings and don't forget to make them 3 point.
8fc7c9 No.377265
>>373446
Could you elaborate on what's wrong with DrawABox?
501592 No.377273
>>377265
Not him, but >>>/loomis/11342 makes a pretty good argument.
ad6bce No.377343
This is a sort of build template I tried to work out with geometry, based on some proportion from some of the guides at the top. I'm not all that artistic, so this kind of mathematical approach is more my speed. Anyone with a better eye for proportion that can show me the rough edges to smooth out?
645034 No.378178
>>377343
Are weekly drawpiles gone now?
47df88 No.378182
>>377343
A bit late, but you won't get very far with that. You can use geometry for drawing, but you need to use 3D geometry combined with perspective.
Read perspective made simple and go from that.
>>378178
No, they just moved to the draw thread, >>374955
e37bec No.383313
I love tiny ass sprites and simple sprite art (think the photos from Link's Awakening DX on game boy color). Any good tutorials?
ea1ddd No.383446
Dead girls for a dead thread.
f87383 No.383630
>>383446
Not dead friend. Have a nice New Years burst. Did these mostly through December. Enjoy!
c25cad No.383907
>>383313
I don't have any tutorials, but I can share some advice I learned when I used to do some sprite work. First, find a program you feel comfortable using. I normally draw with Krita, but it's a pain to try and make sprites with to me. MSPaint has actually been my go to, but its up to you.
Second, learn how to keep things simple. Its especially important for small sprites like that, but even game developers would usually not try to add in every detail, such as fingers. A good example is the Megaman Zero series, study those sprites for a lot of good ideas.
And third, remember that 1 pixel can convey a lot of information. It can be the difference between a normal face, and a bug eyed Pinocchio. This ties in with keep it simple, because you can make a sprite cleaner, and more pleasing by hand picking individual pixels to add or remove.
Just have fun with it, sprite work is one of those things that are just enjoyable to make.
>>383446
These girls look nice, but the pose of the first one seems very stiff. If she's hunched over in sadness, there should be more of a curve along her back line. Try using a gesture line next time, it will help with making more natural feeling poses
>>383630
Hello new art dude! You have promise, but keep working on proportions, face structure, and refining your lines. Always Try to erase unneeded sketch lines if possible, to make your sketches cleaner, and easier for your audience to look at. I'm looking forward to your next submission!
c25cad No.383908
Its only fair to share my work for criticism as well, so here's a zombie I've been working on recently. My tablet needs repairs, so I've having to use good ol' pencil and paper. If anyone has any tips for drawing good skeleton parts, please let me know
457d81 No.384014
>>383908
Pro: Cute face, has a gun
Con: No place for baby
ce5c56 No.384403
>>383908
My only complaint anon is due to foreshortening it looks like she has baby hands; otherwise pretty cool shit
c25cad No.384458
>>384014
Thanks! And yes, she has a few missing bits she might need help growing back
>>384403
Sorry about the tiny hand Believe it or not it was even smaller when it was still a sketch. I will try to make sure its bigger next time. Thanks though!
bbe3d2 No.386733
Every time I start drawing for a bit, I end up disgusted by my work and end up giving up for a while.
Any tips for how to draw if everything you make is utter shit?
47df88 No.386745
>>386733
First of all, post your shit. You won't get anything more than general tips otherwise.
As for that, I'd say that if you can't draw something it's because you don't understand it as a 3D object. Draw from reference a lot, it'll help you understand how stuff works, bonus points if you get some 3D models to spin around and study from different angles.
bbe3d2 No.386748
>>386745
Some of my stuff is in the thread.
>>337759
>>337762
>>339839
>>355921
>>356465
Also did some stuff in a few drawpiles, ut I don't have them saved. Everything else I toss into the trash after I make an attempt.
Each time I try doing something, my hand draws shit and my brain tells me it sucks. The only times I could actually follow through with completing a drawing recently was withthe help of alcohol.
47df88 No.386759
>>386748
Sorry, I keep forgetting IDs exist.
Looks like you're pretty good at perspective, but construction and shapes fucks you up, your lines need work and you don't understand what you're trying to draw.
I'd say construction and line control are what you should aim for right now.
My lines are a bit shit since I haven't used my tablet for months, but ignoring that here's a few exercises that might help.
>1
Draw a bunch of circles in different angles, sizes and aspect ratios. Fill a page with it or half if you're a lazy fuck like me. What you're trying to do is to make the circles as perfect and as clustered as possible without overlapping. I'd say to go over each circle twice without lifting the pen since it'll also help with hand-eye coordination.
Do this as an exercise and also as warm-up before drawing since it helps getting used to the pen before going in.
>2
Line control exercises. Draw a line, then go over it 8 times or so, try to make it as clean as possible and not all fucked up like mine. Don't do that ball thing people usually do with drawing a ball then drawing lines from multiple directions intersecting on the middle, you want to draw lines from various directions, yes, but that'll make it too clustered and hard to see, which kind of defeats the point.
Draw straight lines, squiggly patterns and so on. Straight lines and curves are the best since those are the ones you'll actually use the most.
>3
Draw 3 or more dots, then try to connect them in one fluid motion. Ghosting the lines helps with this one.
>4
Construction exercise. Draw various overlapping 3D shapes, then either erase the parts you shouldn't see or trace over the parts you should, to get one complex 3D figure. You can go abstract or try to draw something with it, but I'd recommend going abstract and using as many different shapes as you can at first.
>5
Then use construction to actually try and draw stuff. It'll probably suck at first and then keep sucking, but the objective isn't making something perfect, but rather giving you a general outline of what you're trying to draw.
>6
And here's what I mean by understanding stuff. Your eye's kind of fucked because you're trying to draw something you don't understand, an eye's a ball with skin over it, but there's a few key points like A- the part right when it goes up being the highest point of the eye, B- the the top back part being higher than the tear ducts, and C- both top and bottom slightly curving inward and then outward as the skin goes from following the shape of the eye to the shape of the nose.
Just study from life, try drawing pictures and then compare the drawing, try to look for landmarks in whatever you're trying to copy and so on.
Also, some general line tips:
>do it at the right speed, too slow and it gets all fucked up and shit, too fast and you'll usually miss the mark, try looking for a speed that works for you
>don't hesitate, think at the starting point and the end point of the line and just go over both of those point, it's hard being exact at first, so it's better to go over the points and have to erase than stop short
>lock your wrist/fingers and move your shoulder and elbow while drawing, except when doing fine details on paper
>pens tend to look sharper, make the outlines and whatnot with a pencil, then trace over it with a pen, it'll look better in most cases not exactly a good advice, but something that's good enough for beginners
Good luck friend.
ad31bf No.386951
>>296936
>UNCROSS YOUR LEGS AND SIT UP STRAIGHT.
But why
47df88 No.387115
>>386951
Better posture helps your elbow and shoulder have more straight and fluid movements.
ad31bf No.387431
>>387115
sounds reasonable, but my legs are crossed like a meditation.
dc7a6c No.387587
>>289731
I just wanted to add a simple tool for poorfags on linux/bsd: azpainter2
It's like Sai-lite and fiddling with brushes is easier than Krita.
I found out about this tool some time ago and it just clicked for me.
aa9887 No.388147
>>289731
>Drawing the Figure From Your Imagination (Glenn Vilppu) - https://youtu.be/DqxMMEUvtJc
This link's expired. I found a decent alternative on youtube on the same topic, even has the same name, essentialy. Made by some english-speaking Indian or Arab. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WJxFgAzWR4&t=415s
aa9887 No.388148
>>388147
Ah, I should mention that it's from the first loomis hub, on how to draw.
5318ab No.388180
how can I join the draw pile?