/mde/ - MILLION DOLLAR EXTREME

Well, how much have you engaged with MDE's content? It would hurt your understanding if it was all immediately explained to you, would it not?

As for why people like mde, some find them funny as social satire from a post millenials perspective., and others like it because much edgy comedy.

I am interest in your association with them though.

mde fans just find mde content funny. it's comedy it's not that serious and what we/you think about sam hyde is irrelevant at this point

>>14428

Are you claiming to be the Lake Radio guy?

>do you guys like MDE/Sam Hyde or dislike him

You may get the impression from this board that Sam's fans hate him, but that's not entirely true. Really this board is just a consequence of Sam and his cronies ruthlessly stamping out any criticism of Sam on the old r/MDE subreddit. Sam and his real life friends and sycophants were mods, so they'd ban people regularly for even minor negativity toward Sam or MDE content. So it basically compounded the whole hero-worship thing MDE fans had toward Sam since no one could even present a negative opinion on MDE/Sam content. It was all praise, all day. After the MDE subreddit was banned, everyone flocked to other places to continue discussing MDE, and this was one of the places. This place has existed for years, but it never had much traffic on account of how popular r/MDE was. After the ban it picked up, and people realized the board owner here doesn't ban people for criticizing Sam, so for the first time people could vent their frustrations about Sam and MDE without risk. It's gotten steadily more normal/reasonable, but we're still basically in eruption mode. However, even if you account for the fact that everyone is venting years of repressed rage, there's still a lot of reasons people don't like Sam (as fans), e.g. he's failed to deliver any real content for 2 years yet keeps promising to, keeps asking for money despite this, seems to be a manipulative piece of shit who betrays his friends and collaborators, doesn't practice what he's preached in the past (ambushes pedophiles on craigslist yet courted and fucked a 15-year-old when he was 30), etc. So the hate/criticism is partly because people have genuine reason to think he's a piece of degenerate trash, and they feel sort of betrayed that this guy they saw as an honest, virtuous guy slowly revealed himself to be a bag of shit. I'd say most people here have a balance of hating/liking Sam, but the liking is slowly giving way to disappointment as it becomes increasingly apparent that Sam was never who he claimed to be.

>are you mad that you've been banned from another part of the internet that is Sam Hyde centric

Yea, pretty much everyone is mad. All across the MDE "diaspora" that's now on Voat, 8chan, Discord, and other stealthy little subreddits that have showed up. Though I'd say the anger is kind of immature and naive, which is a hallmark of MDE fans. What got r/MDE banned was a flood of "I want to __ in Minecraft" threads. Like "I want to kill niggers in Minecraft". The joke was that you could say anything you want, but if you put "in Minecraft" after it you'd be scot free, because you're not making an actual threat. It's one thing if you're complaining that your favorite anti-SJW Youtuber got deplatformed for saying the word retard or something, but if you're indignant that you couldn't joke about "killing niggers" without suffering repercussions from the website owners, you're pretty fucking naive. But MDE fans are mostly young, lost men looking for guidance and who developed a very insular fan culture that centered around Sam's attitudes and ideas, so they kind of went off the rails and didn't realize HOW off the rails they were going (at least in the view of the wider culture). So they're angry, but their anger is rooted in their inability to see how the rest of society sees them.

>>14428

pt.2

>how much irony is involved, how much is just edginess for comedy, and how much of what I read in my liberal safe space bubble about MDE and the fans is true

There was an image posted on the MDE subreddit one day with some text that was supposed to represent the average post by an MDE fan, and there was a caption above it that said "ironic joke layered with MDE references", and then underneath it was another caption in smaller text that said "steely cold intent", as if to say "we joke around and use irony and goofy humor, but underneath our jokes is a deadly serious worldview". It got hugely upvoted presumably because it rang true for a lot of people. So you could argue from that (and I could argue from my years of experience being an MDE fan) that the irony and edginess is not meaningless stuff. It all points to real opinions. However, I would add the caveat that last year after Charlottesville, there was a exodus in the MDE fan base that I think caused what was once maybe 50% of the fan base to become 95% of the fan base, at least in the biggest MDE collection point which was the MDE subreddit. Much of the MDE fan base came from the old days when Sam was just sort of a freethinker and wasn't an extremist yet. But steadily since 2016 he became very intense about his political opinions and ideas on race, and much of his fanbase followed suit (and he probably attracted some new fans due to his new opinions). As the tone of the MDE subreddit changed, a tension grew between the extremists and non-extremists. The non-extremists were fine with the racism and politics, but they just wanted it to be funny too. The extremists didn't give a shit if it was funny or not, they just wanted to spew hate for muslims, jews, blacks, and women. After Charlottesville Sam was on Twitter basically mocking the chick who got killed and posting all kinds of white genocide shit, and his fans got riled up by it (either for it or against it), and basically after that point the MDE subreddit became the white rights, white genocide, fuck niggers, fuck Jews, fuck women sub. The 50% of the fan base that was okay with small doses of that shit as long as it was funny became disgusted and ended up ditching the sub, or sticking around and trying to sway things back to the way they were. So because of that shift, the MDE fanbase became 95% edgy redpill-boys. So, what you've heard about the MDE fan base in your liberal safe space bubble (if you heard they're Nazis, fascists, etc) was probably technically true, but it wasn't always true. I'd also add the second caveat that the scary things you heard are probably blown out of proportion, i.e. giving the impression that these Nazis/fascists on the internet are some serious threat and/or great in number. It's all completely overblown. They're a bunch of frustrated boys who hate SJWs and eat up redpill propaganda online all day. Not that one of them won't maybe shoot up a mall at some point, but the idea that they're organized and have the wherewithal to actually put their ideas into action is erroneous. They talk big on the internet because they want to impress their internet friends and "trigger the libtards". They get off on being perceived as powerful and willing to do violence. They self-identify as fascists or whatever other term makes them feel edgy, but they probably couldn't even properly define it and definitely don't live by it, though I'm not sure how someone lives a "fascist lifestyle".

>>14432

I was a mod and I would ban people all the time for not being funny or slandering sam

>>14435

based

>>14435

oh no, then i'd have to pick another one of my 18 IPs to post on

>>14437

mods on reddit can't ip ban

>>14438

they could user ban and users with an acct under a year old weren't allowed to post/comment on r/mde. i know because i made an account for the first time since 2013 this summer and tried to use the sub but couldn't

>>14438

nvm i read your post >>14435

as "if i were i mod [on here] i would…"

>>14433

good post

Such a shame about the influx of white nationalists. Sam's fault, it was sort of a marketing decision, I think he increased his overall fanbase size, but he pushed away a lot of core fans (people I would say are more sensible than the 1488 dumbos) and gained a following of WNs who are so thirsty for any kind of hate speech that they don't care who the source is. You can gain a following easily by catering to the most extreme of people, those people want validation for their extremism.

I'm along for the ride though, I can't get off this train, but now I'm forced to sift through 1488 refuse and edgy-without-humor bullshit. Such is life in a polarized world.

I remember around 2015 Sam posted a long comment on reddit in response to a question about his politics. He had a very reasonable and level-headed view on things despite making "edgy" content. Maybe he was just suppressing his true beliefs, or maybe life wore him down or whatever, but nothing good came from his public display of extremism.

>>14443

>>14444

>>14445

gayest images ever l0l

>>14451

The book in its entirety is gay and satanic and I didn’t know it existed till it was mentioned in a hydewars

>>14442

>He had a very reasonable and level-headed view on things despite making "edgy" content. Maybe he was just suppressing his true beliefs

Or maybe he decided to larp as a Nazi because the /pol/ audience was the only one big enough for him that actually was responsive to his decidedly average comedic talent.

>>14443

didn't Sam literally follow Law 7 for that Tedx talk? he crowdsourced most of the material in it from 4chan/his facebook followers and people always give him credit for all of it/

>>14454

>didn't Sam literally follow Law 7 for everything?

yes

>So, do you guys like MDE/Sam Hyde or dislike him or are you mad that you've been banned from another part of the internet that is Sam Hyde centric?

I like most of MDE's stuff. I started watching in the vertical videos era and stopped during hyde wars / Paywall era.

>I am wondering if you folks could answer some questions about MDE, Sam, and the fan base to help me understand what it is, how much irony is involved, how much is just edginess for comedy, and how much of what I read in my liberal safe space bubble about MDE and the fans is true.

You're going to need to be more specific. The fans run the entire gamut, there are more than a few that don't understand the jokes and think sam is "based and redpilled", and there are others that don't care for politics at all and just enjoy the comedy.

>Being degenerate leftist trash, I have uneasy feelings due to being associated with MDE/Sam Hyde through my music and his use of my stuff in his videos.

Due to employment concerns, or social concerns?

>I can go into more specifics and ask more straightforward questions if anyone is willing to engage and answer some questions I have.

Sure. It's a slow board and I only check every couple days though.

>>14453

what motivates you to post about a 'decidedly average comedic talent' years after he's not released anything on a nearly dead imageboard?

>So, do you guys like MDE/Sam Hyde or dislike him or are you mad that you've been banned from another part of the internet that is Sam Hyde centric?

Kind of a weird question imo, I like Sam Hyde but I don't like what his platform is now. I could care less for paywalls, and I think it's really stupid how for the better half of his "career" he's spent it making fun of e-beggars and now him and charls are both just that. Manchildren doing as little as possible for as much as possible. That bums me out..

>I am wondering if you folks could answer some questions about MDE, Sam, and the fan base to help me understand what it is, how much irony is involved, how much is just edginess for comedy, and how much of what I read in my liberal safe space bubble about MDE and the fans is true.

People do enjoy hyperbolic banter often, however a lot of it is definitely true to most. A lot of MDE fans have incel mindsets and shit it's retarded. Plenty have been chill though, I wouldn't overthink that aspect personally.

>Being degenerate leftist trash, I have uneasy feelings due to being associated with MDE/Sam Hyde through my music and his use of my stuff in his videos.

I have a lefty leaning friend who likes MDE up to about Ideas Man and once when politics became a heavy theme (especially women hate ect) he fell out of it and doesn't care for it.

What exactly is your end game here OP

>>14453

isn't he a jew? lol

>>14428

>So, do you guys like MDE

I liked his stuff. I didn't like the TV show or the content that followed.

>how much irony is involved

For the most part the fanbase devolved into some stupid fucking wignat powwow for teenagers who can't rationalize their way around liberal identity politics. I think Sam decided to pursue this market for a bump in viewership at some point along the line. Can't speak on his actual political stance.

>I have uneasy feelings due to being associated

Feign ignorance if confronted, who cares. Tell them you needed the money and neglected to background check the fucking guy. If some intersectional wiccan Art Cunt gives you shit then whatever. It's a learning experience.

>>14428

I have ambivalent feelings towards Sam, the negative ones tend to outweigh the positives. The rest of the MDE crew are fine: Nick, Charls, Andrew, Trappped (though he is sort of weird) and Price. I've liked the stuff Ryan and Jan were involved too.

I've always believed they leaned right, but that didn't matter to me as long as their comedy and criticism was good and funny. Though I think that Sam has pandered to WN and all the altright stuff that I don't think he might be larping, and has brought a shitty fandom lately that killed his subreddit and his career.

You shouldn't worry too much about him using your music. Lots of artists have been linked to MDE and made it OK. All the artists from WP didn't have an issue other than being questioned, if they question you, you can deny participation, maybe acknowledge his earlier work or something but deny his politics. Sam has always been close to art /design people and it seems they always make it fine.

Don't feel weird for being left leaning. I'm left leaning too and I'm pretty sure that many MDE fans (from outside the US at least) are lefty too.

Now tell us something about you. When did this happen? What music do you make? Has it been used recently? (Are you Lake Radio?)

wahh someone who appreciated my craft has no-no opinons. faggot

are you a cumtown guy

>>14432

>>14433

great posts. sums it up nicely.

>>14577

Can you stop replying to your own posts and talking to yourself you schizo?

>>14584

I'm the guy who wrote the posts he's talking about. Hes not me. In fact I'm surprised anyone thought they were good posts. I figured everyone would call me a sperg and tell me to shut the fuck up.

>>14428

>>14432

I'd say this is a pretty fair shake on both sides of the argument. I think the only point that was not adressed as strongly was

>people could vent their frustrations about Sam and MDE without risk. It's gotten steadily more normal/reasonable, but we're still basically in eruption mode.

That "eruption mode" is more like a super-nova sized derailment of pure hate for same. I think the other another got the nail right on the head when he said that it's mainly because they feel betrayed by Sam for his falling from grace in their eyes with his less that virtuous lifestyle. Simply put, Sam and his fans are both super weird. None of them had true masculine fatherly roles in their life so once this godly leader was revealed to not be so high and mighty, they were completely blindsided. This has led to some some of the most depressing "civil wars" between the fans, with the ones who feel angry and betrayed shitting on threads 24/7 on one side, and the remnants of the MDE reddit who always praised Sam on the other. I personally still like Sam, issues and all because I still find him to be a funny comedian, but I understand the swing from Reddit

>NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO MAKE FUN OF SAM HES PERFECT

To its natural conclusion

>now that we can criticize I FUCKING HATE HIM HES A PIECE OF SHIT FUCK

When it all bubbles underneath the surface it has to be released somehow.