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 No.82381

Is space-time inflation a scam?

>everything suffers from entropy and loses energy value over the course of time

>matter is increasingly dispersed and becomes less and less valuable

>universe expands due to "dark matter" but no one actually has access to its use

 No.82431

>>82381

It's the space-time central bankers robbing us of the value of our time through counterfeit time, wake up people


 No.82441

General relativity is a conspiracy by the lizard aliens to charge exceedingly exorbitant prices. (((they))) expect us to believe that the universe came from nothing but that it's impossible for any more matter to be generated. (((they))) fabricated redshift as a way to hike up prices for watered down starship fuel by convincing the galaxy that stars are getting farther away


 No.82459

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I warned you brehs about the demiurge


 No.82511

Dark matter and dark energy are placekeepers, they aren't actual matter or actual energy.

We simply don't understand why certain things are happening, and instead of obsessing over it we put in bandaids that sort of work, and move on with other discoveries.


 No.82537

>>82511

>Dark matter and dark energy are placekeepers, they aren't actual matter or actual energy.

So like fractional reserve banking?


 No.82550

>>82537

If they were it'd be a lot simpler than it is now. Dark matter is more like fiat money, but even that's a bad analogy and I really don't know how to relate it to economics. Basically, the stars dont move the way they're supposed to move given the observable universe and the way general relativity is, but instead of attempting to redefine relativity to account for this, a bunch of hack scientists just said "there's probably a bunch of invisible, undetectable matter all over the universe that exists in a shape the matter is not supposed to be shaped"

Dark energy was invented for a similar reason, to try and explain what's causing the universe to expand, even though there's zero evidence that such energy exists, and some doubt that the universe is even really expanding.


 No.82553

>>82537

>>82550

A better analogy is the LTV: The theory is in clear violation of the observable evidence, but instead of admitting that the theory doesn't make sense they add a bunch of contrived, baseless assumptions to reality that only exist to make the theory work.

>to try and explain what's causing the universe to expand, even though there's zero evidence that such energy exists, and some doubt that the universe is even really expanding.

I'm mostly in agreement here, but even if we don't know what's causing it, isn't universal expansion pretty much a foregone conclusion? We know about the Hubble shift, and a few years ago (2015 I think) was able to record the phenomenon of cosmic inflation.


 No.82556

>>82553

I havent been keeping up on that. I just remember reading a few papers about a year ago where some guy studied quasars on opposite ends of a galaxy and found them equally redshifted, while the galaxy in between was more redshifted than both of them, and the (((scientific community))) refused to publish or even entertain his findings, which is an automatic red flag to me. Not to mention cosmic expansion seems just as incredulous as dark matter/energy, and if you ask me was fabricated for the same reason, to change the facts to fit the theory instead of changing the theory to fit the facts. If you ask me, relativity is a scam to collect grant money by a bunch of scientists who realized too late that admitting fault would cost them their careers.


 No.82562

>>82381

The universe is not expanding from dark matter. It was expanding since the Big Bang but dark energy (not dark matter) is accelerating the expansion. I would think energy/matter becomes more valuable as it becomes more scarce in extraction.


 No.82570

>>82537

Actually it's closer to socialism.

1. People who believe a theory that says the world should look a certain way.

2. Reality contradicts their theory.

3. Instead of changing their theory, they add a bunch of excuses and just carry on believing their bullshit theory.

>>82553

The problem isn't that it's expanding, the problem is that the expansion is accelerating. As in the universe will expand faster tomorrow than it does today. If special relativity were correct, the expansion should either remain constant or actually be slowing down due to gravity in the universe. But what we're seeing is that more and more "spacetime" is spontaneously being created everywhere at the same time, and that process is also increasing in frequency.

Shit Einstein got right:

1. Brownian theory of motion, entirely based on statistical math provided by his wife, Mileva Maric.

Shit Einstein got wrong:

1. Photon theory of light. Entire particle theory of physics is wrong.

2. Special relativity is bullshit, Einstein cribbed the idea from a patent and had his wife Mileva Maric write all of the math for it, before he abandoned her. The idea was shit to begin with, she's not to blame for that.

3. Equivalence of energy and mass. Energy is actually equivalent to mass in addition to dimensional spacetime folding that isn't described or valued by Einstein.


 No.82580

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>>82562

> I would think energy/matter becomes more valuable as it becomes more scarce in extraction.

As distances between star systems increase though it would become less and less economical to extract and transport resources for a hypothetical interstellar civilization.

The gist of it is could the universe be a highly advanced financial simulation?


 No.82584

>>82580

Like bitcoin mining?


 No.82585

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>>82584

>life is just a series of ASICs


 No.82634

>>82584

>God is at 14 year old kid at his computer using your universe to mine bitcoin

Save me from this fresh hell


 No.83483

>>82570

Both special and general relativity are used to predict, among other things, the position of GPS satellites, no? I agree that a lot of modern physics has gotten rather nonsensical, but hasn't special relativity held up? There are several cases in science of ridiculous ideas being acknowledged because they nominally fit the observations (like dark matter), but GPS satellites came along decades after the theory and math for special relativity were established. Not necessarily disagreeing, just want to know more.




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