Oooh! My new favorite thread…
> I know allot of you, don't peddle this "left unity" shit, and if this describes you than this thread is not for you.
We're the ones you need, though.
And to be fair, "left unity" doesn't always mean "unity with marxists and stalinists." I'm rather fond of some of the ecofreaks, and am hella down with the whole anarchonudist scene. It's postchristianity at its finest, strolling around in a magic garden of abundance where there are no rules and everyone's okay…
As important as antimarxism/antileninism is to the left, "what do you think of the anarchonudist wingbats" is a much cooler litmus test. If it starts screeching about degeneracy, kill it.
>it has always been right libertarians who extend an olive branch to left libertarians and not the other way round.
…and yet I'm here entirely because you need us and we need you.
As much as you rant about the beneficience of the center-right, let's look at what you've actually got. Sure, you've got helicopter folks. You've got your first respondent as a shining example of "not safe for earth." And yes, like plague-fleas on a rats nest, these torment you…
…but you've ALSO got folks who hold that diverting fiat printing via regulatory connections is great, libertarian, and free trade. A realistic NAFTA is marching from Honduras in a PR caravan; maybe you can trade with them when they get here. "Free" trade, but only for the few, is not really a free market.
This is a major reason that people who are perfectly comfortable to ride with agorists are slightly uncomfortable with you, tbh. It's not Rothbard, who gives us way more meat to work with than you're comfortable with, frankly. It's not the helicopter guys, who are frankly prone enough to "physically removing" each other, not to mention skilled at convincing even the pacifists to kill them. No, it's the slightly-higher-functioning psychopaths that sort of pass, "the peasants are trading without including me" style.
The ENTIRE left, including crazy utopian "everything is free" shit, is entirely predicated on free-market economics. Frankly, until you get better at noting trade barriers arising from within the illusion of the right-business class, we're mostly going to smile, think you're cute, and ignore you. If you want unity, scrap barriers to buying and selling on the street and in parks and watch the whole business class come crashing down.
>I hope you realize that statist commies have historically betrayed you guys at every turn throughout history preventing you from creating and maintaining ancom societies (Catalonia as an example).
It goes a bit further than that. Marx wrote a book about capitalism, and spent his time at the first international purging leftists until everyone he hadn't gotten around to purging yet left and went to St. Imiers with the people he had. Lenin, a member of a capitalist party, attacked (october) a socialist-inclusive governance (feburary) and exiled almost all the left, except for a last few whom he killed at Krondstat, to implement, in his words, capitalism. You mention Stalin's coordination with Franco, but you omit his coordination with his other proxy, Hitler, in gas van operations in Poland, as well as his direct attacks in the Ukraine.
Killing Marxists and/or Leninists on sight is the basic understanding which underpins Left unity. Unfortunately, we've got a lot of pacifists and/or anarchonudists, who unfortunately crumple quickly when shit breaks out. A strength for peacetime, but vulnerable.
Lenin also forms the left's understanding of capitalism, and is commensurate with the outlawed truck system of england, the history of appalaichan coal mining, and the like. Such a system could be subverted if the peasants were allowed to quit their job and buy and sell on the street, but trying to get a "free trade libertarian" to care about that is like pulling teeth; it might compete with the overlord class.
So, that shows off the glaring flaw in the system, and until you can manage to get by that, we'll look at you as possibly cute, and nothing more. It's still this board we look to, while /leftypol/ is left as a glaring shithole of stalinists and succdem-facist hybrids, but since as the saying goes "niggas ain't ready for revolution," we just stare at you and move on.
Are you ready to kill off the business class by letting the peasants trade, yet? Because that is the price of moving from far-right to right-libertarian, the complete destruction of the powerholders as people are suddenly allowed to do without them…