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WARNING! Free Speech Zone - all local trashcans will be targeted for destruction by Antifa.

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 No.81278

What did he mean by this?

https://archive.fo/YAx0Q

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-06/george-soros-prepares-to-trade-cryptocurrencies-as-prices-plunge

>George Soros called cryptocurrencies a bubble in January. Now his $26 billion family office is planning to trade digital assets.

>Adam Fisher, who oversees macro investing at New York-based Soros Fund Management, got internal approval to trade virtual coins in the last few months, though he has yet to make a wager, according to people familiar with the matter. A spokesman declined to comment.

>Soros, speaking at the World Economic Forum in Davos, said digital coins cannot function as actual currencies because of their volatility. But he didn’t predict the hard tumble that some observers had forecast at the time.

>“As long as you have dictatorships on the rise you will have a different ending, because the rulers in those countries will turn to Bitcoin to build a nest egg abroad,” Soros, 87, said on Jan. 25.

>Since the billionaire investor made his comments, Bitcoin has fallen 41 percent. The asset’s whipsaw ride over the past six months has caused some investors to doubt the value of trading it. Former hedge fund manager Mike Novogratz shelved plans to launch a crypto fund in December, shifting his efforts to a merchant bank focused on cryptocurrencies and ventures based on related technologies.

>Other macro managers have turned to digital coins as profits from their hedge funds dwindle. John Burbank, who shuttered his main fund last year, plans to raise $150 million for two funds investing in digital currencies. His Passport Capital started the funds in January and have mostly sought investments from family offices and other wealthy investors.

>Billionaire Alan Howard made sizable personal wagers – separate from his firm – in cryptocurrencies last year and plans to put more of his own money into digital assets and the blockchain technology behind them.

>Soros has already been indirectly betting on crypto. The firm amassed a stake in Overstock.com in the fourth quarter, making it the third-biggest shareholder of the discount e-commerce company. In August 2017 it became the first major retailer to accept digital currencies. The company had also planned to start an exchange for cryptocurrencies as well as offer digital coins that could trade on the platform.

>In March, Overstock.com disclosed that the Securities and Exchange Commission is investigating its proposed ICO. Shares have sunk about 40 percent in the wake of the disclosure.

>Investors in digital assets also face the growing possibility of government intervention. Central banks globally are investigating the benefits and risks of cryptocurrencies, while regulators in South Korea, one of the world’s busiest Bitcoin markets, are cracking down on such trading amid allegations of fraud.

 No.81280

Thank goodness. I dont know what kind of jewry he has planned but as soon as I recoup my losses I can sell out.


 No.81288

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>>81280

>as soon as I recoup my losses I can sell out.

You and everyone else thinking the exact same.


 No.81292

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>>81288

Even Soros?


 No.81293

>>81288

You just need to wait, Hitler. Buy low and sell high.


 No.81297

>yfw stubborn goldbugs took the longest for FOMO to kick in and anguished until bubble prices to get in

>yfw they bought at the peak and got JUSTed worse than facebook normies

Dumping on the idiots on /liberty/ in Jan and screwing over borgies was the highlight of the new year. How's it feel knowing that your money is literally being spent on abortions right now?


 No.81300

>>81297

>Dumping on the idiots on /liberty/ in Jan

What idiots? We've had only one pro-crypto regular and I don't think he owned any anyway. The cryptofags were almost exclusively /leftypol/ers. We've been sounding the cryptofail horn since its inception and never stopped.

>yfw they bought at the peak and got JUSTed worse than facebook normies

Hopefully they all learned a lesson. Not like anyone here would admit losing their money on an ultra volatile speculative asset.

You are either very new or a regular shitposting under a different flag for shits and giggles.


 No.81301

>>81300

I actually just bought 300 shekel's worth of Ethereum. Was holding off on investing in crypto but now that the price has normalized it seems like crypto is less of a meme and has potential for real growth.


 No.81310

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>>81301

Other than allowing decentralized information and payments it's still very much a meme. The real State blowback against it hasn't even begun yet. This was the storm before Armageddon.


 No.81312

>>81301

Idk about Ethereum but bitcoin is reaching its physical limits. Be prepared that it will likely drag the other coins down too.


 No.81313

>>81310

There is some local legislation in its favor though Not that will stop the Feds from dicking them down if they really feel like it.

https://mises.org/power-market/wyoming-challenging-fed-can-it-become-americas-crypto-valley


 No.81323

>>81312

That wouldn't surprise me overly much, but we've already seen the market drop a ways as it normalized, so I'm hoping that anything further won't be too significant. Ethereum in particular isn't quite commodity money but it is partially tied to a real resource (compute time), making it less fiat than most of its competitors and thus more grounded in its value.


 No.81324

>>81323

Also, I have to ask, if BTC and crypto in general are so obviously a bubble, why are Tom Woods and so many other people in the Mises institute shilling for it? I'm definitely not one to blindly accept appeals to ethos, but it is curious to me that so many people that usually are pretty good about warning against bubbles and artificial value are singing nothing but praise for crypto. Have they just become so enamored with the idea of decentralized, Federal Reserve-independent currency that they've neglected the practical flaws in this idea in the name of ideology?


 No.81346

>>81324

> why are Tom Woods and so many other people in the Mises institute shilling for it

Tom isn't. Most of the Mises guys are hard money types and only ever mention bitcoin as a means to decentralizing information and payment processing in spite of the government's tendency to tighten surveillance and regulation. None of them view it as a currency and frequently enough express why.


 No.81348

>>81346

>Tom isn't

Are you sure? He seems to come bat for it every so often on his podcast, and he's defended it a few times on the contra-krugman as well.


 No.81350

>>81348

I'm quite sure. I don't miss a podcast. He's never implied it can be money. He's interested in it, but that's all.


 No.81352

>>81346

>>81348

>>81350

It was mostly Bob Murphy, whose argument boiled down to, crypto isn't money yet but it has become a medium of exchange, and every money started as a medium of exchange, ergo crypto can become money.


 No.81359

>>81352

Is this the post?

https://consultingbyrpm.com/blog/2014/03/on-bitcoin-and-ludwig-von-mises-regression-theorem.html

How can he compare Bitcoin with dollars? No one asks for taxes in Bitcoin.

Because it's obtained by mining, it can't be tied to some other good. A money-substitute is made or not depending on what it entitles the possessor to. I don't see how this is a good medium of exchange.


 No.81362

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The Soros Pump is starting!


 No.81363

>>81362

They have not suffered enough. YOU DO NOT GET OFF THE RIDE. Time to start losing money you don't even have yet.


 No.81410

>>81278

wtf i hate cryptos now




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