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WARNING! Free Speech Zone - all local trashcans will be targeted for destruction by Antifa.

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 No.75702

What's going on with the market /liberty/?

Dow falls 450 points as interest rates shoot higher, stocks head for worst week in 2 years

>The major indexes were on track for their worst weekly performance in two years.

>The benchmark 10-year yield rose to 2.85 percent.

>The U.S. economy added 200,000 jobs in January. Economists polled by Reuters expected growth of 180,000.

>U.S. stocks fell sharply on Friday after a stronger-than-expected jobs report sent interest rates higher.

>The Dow Jones industrial average dropped 450 points, with Exxon Mobil sliding 5.4 percent. The 30-stock index also fell below 26,000 and hit its lowest level since Jan. 16.

>The S&P 500 fell 1.4 percent, with energy as the worst-performing sector. The Nasdaq composite declined 1.2 percent as a decline in Apple and Alphabet offset a strong gain in Amazon shares.

>"The key for the market today is rising interest rates," said Mike Baele, managing director at U.S. Bank Wealth Management. "The old adage is: 'Bull markets don't die of old age, they are killed by higher interest rates.' That looms large."

>The U.S. economy added 200,000 jobs in January, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Economists polled by Reuters expected growth of 180,000. Wages, meanwhile, rose 2.9 percent on an annualized basis.

>The report sent interest rates higher. The benchmark 10-year yield rose to 2.85 percent on the back of the report, hitting a four-year high. Investors have been jittery about the recent rise in interest rates, worrying they may be rising too fast.

>On Friday, the 30-year yield rose its highest level since March.

>"The reaction in the bond market is due to the rise in average hourly earnings," said James Ragan, director of individual investor group research at D.A. Davidson. "I think the market is now thinking of the possibility that the Fed could raise rates four times this year rather than three."

>The Federal Reserve has forecast three rate hikes for 2018.

>Bank stocks fell the yield curve widened. The SPDR S&P Bank exchange-traded fund, which tracks bank stocks, slipped 0.7 percent. Banks typically benefit from higher interest rates.

>This has been a volatile week for U.S. stocks. The Cboe Volatility index, widely considered the best fear gauge in the market, rose from 11.08 this week to 15.25.

>The Dow, S&P 500 and Nasdaq were on pace to snap four-week winning streaks. The indexes were also on track for their worst weekly performance in two years.

>Wall Street also looked to the release of key corporate earnings. Exxon Mobil reported weaker-than-expected earnings on Friday, sending its stock lower.

>Tech giant Apple reported better-than-expected quarterly results. But the stock fell 3.4 percent after the company said it expects profit margins of 38 percent to 38.5 percent, tighter than the expected 38.9 percent. Apple also reported lighter-than-expected iPhone sales for its previous quarter.

>Google-parent Alphabet also reported quarterly results, with earnings per share missing expectations. The company's stock dropped 5.3 percent on the back of the report.

>Amazon, meanwhile, surged to an all-time high on the back of its earnings report. The e-commerce giant said its Amazon Web Services sales — a key component for the company — hit $5.11 billion. Analysts polled by FactSet expected AWS revenue of $4.97 billion.

>About halfway through the earnings season, most companies have posted upside surprises. of the S&P 500 companies that have reported as of Friday morning, 78 percent have beaten bottom-line expectations, while 80 percent have surpassed sales estimates, according to Thomson Reuters I/B/E/S.

https://archive.fo/Rjx03

 No.75703

File: ab98e5032e707e9⋯.webm (13.18 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Stock Market Crash of 200….webm)

>>75702

BUY HIGH, SELL LOW


 No.75706

Is it almost time to buy?


 No.75718

> Exxon Mobil sliding 5.4 percent.

Yet somehow petrol increased $0.10 a gallon. Why is fate so cruel?


 No.75721

>>75702

I have switched to raising cash, but I am not selling anything yet, I am confident in my companies long term. I would like a nice clean 20% drop in order to allow some bargains to pop up. The boys on 4/biz/ are having a hell of a time. First the crypto market implodes and now we may be seeing the first tilt of the expected end to this bull run. They really are hurting over there.


 No.75722

>>75718

The increase price of petrol is a sign of a weakening dollar. You know what petrodollar means right? When the value of the dollar getting weaker in real term, theoretically everything that are traded in dollar will get expansive.


 No.75743

>>75722

Is this the time to buy gold?


 No.75744

So the next recession is coming I take it?


 No.75749

>>75744

Did you mean correction?


 No.75813

>>75749

Sure I suppose.


 No.75883

File: 6772a2a15432895⋯.png (40.67 KB, 558x245, 558:245, ClipboardImage.png)

IT CONTINUES

>U.S. stocks traded lower on Monday as investors added to Friday's losses amid concerns of rising interest rates.

>The Dow Jones industrial average dropped 146 points. The 30-stock index briefly fell more than 300 points at the open.

>The S&P 500 fell 0.4 percent, with financials and energy as the worst-performing sectors. The Nasdaq composite slipped 0.15 percent as Facebook, Amazon, Netflix and Alphabet all traded lower. Apple briefly traded lower before rising 1.1 percent.

>"We're not used to getting wash-outs like this anymore," said Quincy Krosby, chief market strategist at Prudential Financial. "The buy-the-dip mentality that has taken over hasn't allowed for that."

>"This sell-off, in the bigger scheme of things, is not that big. But it is very important in psychological terms," Krosby said.

>Dow futures briefly fell more than 300 points, while S&P 500 and Nasdaq 100 futures also fell sharply before the bell.

https://archive.fo/JhjRJ


 No.75885

>>75743

It is not a bad idea to have a portion of your portfolio in gold, but I wouldn't put everything into gold, lest you miss return exposure from other investments.


 No.75887

File: 5f0b54d68cb727d⋯.png (56.26 KB, 593x540, 593:540, Screenshot (44).png)

>>75702

This was the latest AAII Investor Sentiment Survey. So we will see how it compares to next week's.


 No.75899

Who /greatdepression/ here? Id like to see it. The later generations will respect anyone who survives a great depression.


 No.75901

File: 81d92e68df51b11⋯.jpg (45.79 KB, 348x497, 348:497, nazbolgirls3.jpg)

Two months ago I predicted we would have a crash within 18 months. Hardly anyone was listening. Now, after a week straight of sliding markets maybe some people will begin to look at what I've been saying. The market is not backed by anything solid anymore. It's running on pure speculation and the big players know this. I don't believe we've entered the real crash yet but considering how fragile everything really is all it takes is for the big players to exit their positions and it comes falling down. So this could be the beginning of the end. A cynical person might believe that Trump's tax cuts were actually a engineered by the financial elites to allow them to close their positions before crashing everything. My best bet is that we enter a short period of "consolidation" in which prices go up and down for a bit before finally crashing in the near future. Based on treasury yield curves and interest rates, we still have a bit longer to wait. But again, considering how the markets have only been expanding due to speculation, the big crash could easily come at any time now.


 No.75902

File: 8dddc15baf96dcd⋯.jpg (41.56 KB, 326x500, 163:250, nazbolgirl5.jpg)

>Michael Hudson explains the markets here:

>>>/8pol/139

>Former banker explains what might cause the crash:

>>>/8pol/199

>The big banks have grown bigger since 2008:

>>>/8pol/100

>Markets are now dropping:

>>>/8pol/171

>>>/8pol/173

>>>/8pol/196


 No.75903

>>75902

>>75901

Crashes happen, it isn't a big deal, stop being overly dramatic.


 No.75904

so much for the free-market.


 No.75905

Fidelity doesn't have a 401k fund for precious metals. All I have are about two dozen options, so I exchanged my high-risk fund to fed bonds.


 No.75906

>>75905

Really no etf or mutual options for precious medals on Fidelity? I almost thought they had a wider selection than Etrade. Etrade is beginning to piss me off by lagging behind on cheaper commissions, but at least they maintain a decent selection. Etrade even has Forex now, which is nice but they will not let you use the MT4 platform which sucks.


 No.75910

File: 27f9728c1cee375⋯.png (199.25 KB, 600x339, 200:113, ClipboardImage.png)

>>75902

Reposting here for justice.


 No.75911

>>75885

Well, I didn't buy any before, I think this would be a good time get some.


 No.75912

>>75910

That isn't a real tweet, retard.


 No.75913

File: b33446171c592b6⋯.jpg (48.42 KB, 488x410, 244:205, b33446171c592b68974d1865f2….jpg)

Will Dow return to 20k?


 No.75916

Normally I wouldn't give two shits, but right now about half of our clients are major businesses that get affected by the Dow so I'm biting my nails right now, /liberty/. I knew it was coming but I thought I had another 8 months to get ready.


 No.75919

File: 81b1d38eff8479f⋯.png (124.64 KB, 368x368, 1:1, ClipboardImage.png)

>>75916

You know what to do.


 No.75922

>>75899

keynes pls


 No.75923

lel bitcoin


 No.75929

>>75919

Nah, I gotta keep pouring beer for the anons in Gensokyo, and I don't want /k/ to laugh at me. And suicide is a sin.


 No.75935

File: 347da5b083f8c62⋯.webm (7.61 MB, 361x240, 361:240, Cirno_and_Beer.webm)

>>75929

Suit yourself soyo


 No.75939

Looks like no recession - just an 8% correction.


 No.75940

>>75935

That webm could have been a whole two minutes shorter and twice the quality.


 No.76089

File: 773adcf5ee56230⋯.jpg (52.36 KB, 890x461, 890:461, 2018-02-09_5-12-52.jpg)

We still have quite a bit of room to fall. If you are in the game long term, sit it out. If you feel nervous at all you should have been out two weeks ago.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-09/one-trader-explains-why-market-wreck-different-others


 No.77346

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

How could the p/e ratio remain so high for so long?


 No.77376

>>75702

>What's going on with the market /liberty/?

Its fucking happening, i hope you packed your bugout kits because ron paul was right and the shit is hitting the fan now. Im leaving now, see you fuckers on the other side


 No.79950

>Central bankers, led by Jerome Powell in his first meeting as chairman, approved the widely expected quarter-point hike that puts the new benchmark funds rate at a target of 1.5 percent to 1.75 percent

Not much shock today surprisingly. When will it hit us?




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