No.73817
>On Jan. 1, Iceland became the first country in the world to make it illegal to pay men more than women for doing the same job
http://time.com/5087354/iceland-makes-equal-pay-the-law/
No.73820
>>73817
>genderbaiting women into Socialism
Too easy.
No.73821
<the first country in the world
<the first
Citation fucking needed.
No.73826
>>73817
Funnily enough, in the United States there was an act passed in 1963 called the "Equal Pay Act". Yet today we still have what leftists would consider a wage gap, it's almost as though women can make their own decisions to pursue different careers or maybe even take off work to raise their children, but of course "muh sexism" is the law of the land as it was back then and as it is now.
Either way, it appears as though Iceland's been fucked and cucked for quite a while, so I don't know what it was I was expecting.
No.73829
>The new rules stipulate that all companies and government agencies employing at least 25 people will have to obtain government certification of their equal-pay policies. Employers will face fines if they are found to be in violation.
OI WHERE'S YER PAYROLL LOICENSE?
No.73952
The only legitimate time I can think of where you shouldn't pay or discriminate one group is if you work for the government. Otherwise, in private business you could I suppose and let market forces handle it.
No.73955
No.73979
Who cares? This is fucking great. Businesses just won't hire women and women will go back to where they belong (the kitchen). If I'm an employer then I would obviously hire a man who is both cheaper and better at the job.
I swear all that vagina politics ever succeeds in is fucking shit up even further for the women they try to protect, it's like they try to wipe their asses for them, but in the end they end up smearing even more shit around their assholes, it's fucking pitiful to look at.
No.74008
>>73979
What I want to know is, how will businesses there handle promotions, bonuses, or overtime? Imagine being some Icelandic dude busting your ass staying late and never getting paid overtime, because if you did get overtime your boss would have to pay your female coworkers the same.
No.74009
>>74008
There are accounting tricks for that, no?
No.74011
>>74008
You are not forced to pay the same, your business simply won't be "certified non-discriminative." And it's not supposed to be "absolute," time spent working is taken into consideration.
See this for details: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/01/04/icelands-trying-to-close-the-gender-pay-gap-by-publicly-shaming-companies
No.74012
>>73952
<b-but what do you do if the market is sexist and the culture is against womyns succeeding? Then you NEED government to fix the market!
<Yes, I do believe government should be a democracy. That way the government can reflect the values and culture of the people. What does that have to do with anything?
<Why are you laughing?
No.74027
>>74008
What I'm more worried about is workplace quotas. I really wouldn't want to be forced to hire a bunch of useless women for my PMC and be forced to pay them the same amount as men for doing jack shit.
No.74028
>>74027
Just keep them around for morale, anon.
No.74045
>>74011
>Time spent working isn't discriminated
Yes it is, otherwise the pay gap wouldn't exist. Women don't want to bust their asses working 20-40 hours overtime and leave the workplace for months or years at a time raising kids. That's time spent not working and probably accounts for more than half the pay gap by itself. Shit, the difference between part time and full time employment is about a 200% increase in pay rate even though it's only 10-20 hours more work (or about 1/3rd more work).
No.74204
>>74045
This is Iceland, not your American deathcult. Not every culture considers working yourself to death for scraps to be humane.
No.74207
>>74204
>working yourself to death
You mean, working fourty hours a week at a low to moderate intensity?
>for scraps
You mean, for a television set, annual vacation in some exotic country, gym membership, a new video game every week, and so much food that if you don't regulate your intake or use that gym membership of yours, you die of eating too much?
No.74219
>>73820
>woman gets paid more than men
It doesn't even adhere to the straw that you set socialism as.
<pay in the form of capital
>totally socizims goy
No.74220
>>74219
>uses redtext
Heh, get a load of this faggot.
No.74232
>>74220
I have to wonder where historians found the "originals" of photographs like this.
No.74233
>>74232
ikr? The bottom is the original, the top is a fake produced with capitalist "photoshop" technology. Can you believe it? Even going so far as to rewrite history just to fuck up a man's morning stroll, there's nothing capitalists wouldn't do.
RIP comrade Stalin.
No.74234
>>74233
>not sure if troll
No.74241
>>74239
I thought they still did anti-semitism though?
No.74242
>>74241
They do, but now Trump is far more important to them. Wouldn't be surprised if you could bait them into supporting Israel by invoking Trump. Someone's gotta try.
No.74243
>>74239
Well at least that is something commies do for free.
No.74244
Is it me or is there always this one autist who tries to make this board look likes its just a cesspool of assholes that hate the idea of women having as much liberty as men.
No.74246
>>74244
I think that would be me.
No.74247
>>73979
Then they'll deploy Mandatory Diversity Quotas to try and solve the drift towards men
No.74249
>>74245
>for most the USA is a shithole, third world country
>with only the creme of society living in conditions that you describe.
Only the 1% got access to television and video games, got it.
No.74258
>>74249
Have you seen that documentary about slums where the youngest son of a squatter family – who is a midget and the last hope for the father and mother to take care of them in old age – instead of studying, spends hours after school to burn wires and sell the copper, only to spend the money in a net café, playing Tetris for 4 hours in a row?
No.74261
>>74245
The average work week in the US was 34.4 hours as of 2015. The Bureau of Labor Statistics claims it was 34.5 hours on average in 2010. You're claiming a 136% increase in working hours in the course of four years, which just isn't feasible when the number's been pretty flat since the 90s, so I can't see it as being more than propaganda.
Ah, never mind they're discussing ONLY full time hours. While it's true that 'Bama only created part-time jobs, we're increasingly moving towards a society where people only need to work a part time job to get by. More often than any time in history, people DON'T WANT to be promoted to managerial positions or get promotions since it involves more work. The only ones who take their vacation days are Europeans, most of Asia (despite getting more vacation days) takes fewer vacation days on average compared to the US, but it really depends on occupation.
As a general rule of thumb though, full time employment makes almost twice as much hourly as part time employment. When I work an extra hour every day in the work week, I bring home an extra $50 for every $100 I earn at the end of the week. The issue is the laws on the books making it harder for part timers to get full time status, leading to the high hours for full time (47 hours is not that high- I've worked 50-60 hours between two jobs while going to school and the gym. Most Americans would rather get shit faced drunk with friends on the weekend, but getting shitfaced should not be a sign of a "healthy economy"). As it stands though, we're getting off topic. As I stated earlier in the thread, a 1/3rd increase in work hours nets an average 200% increase in pay between higher average pay and then overtime thrown in. If a woman doesn't want to "bust her ass" working an extra 20ish hours per week, then she doesn't deserve the same pay and thus the pay gap is explained. Why the fuck does how much Americans work even matter? We're some of the most generous, hard-working, industrious faggots on this planet despite only being 56%, and our economy isn't going down the shitter while only being propped up by AMERICAN military bases in most of Europe.
No.74262
>>74261
Well I mean everyone's economies are going down the shitter, but America's is going just a little slower than Europe who seems hell bent on getting everyone unemployed.
No.74265
>>74262
lol it's ok they'll just print more euros and give them to everyone
No.74275
>>74245
As someone who's lived in a third world country I can honestly say that the poorest Americans are about the middle class when compared to third world countries. It's not great to be poor in America but it's not living in a wooden shack without running water and air conditioning. Have you ever even lived in an impoverished country? I don't think you would say that if you had. You don't appreciate the luxury of air conditioning and hot water until you live without it. It sucks.
No.74276
>>74275
>the luxury of air conditioning and hot water
Hey, no one promises you air conditioning and hot water in first world countries. If the market is more or less free and you aren't being taxed to death then that shit is something you can easily build for yourself with your own two hands.
t. Lived in SA, Zimbabwe, Mozambique.
No.74298
>>74275
> It's not great to be poor in America but it's not living in a wooden shack without running water and air conditioning.
In many places it is.
No.74299
>>74298
Can you stop being so vague?! Post an article, a picture, or some more information, for Christ's sake!
No.74302
ha just means they will kill all the salary jobs and sart paying by the hour, men work more than wemon because we dont have a social life their is only work then bed
No.74308
>>74249
>video games and television are what i need to be happy
the mind of the liberal
No.74311
>>74308
To live is to have happiness already.
No.74312
>>74308
>commie calling the ancap a liberal
No.74313
>>74312
ancaps are liberals
No.74314
>>74312
Do you even know what liberal means?
No.74317
>>74311
You should say this to the ten thousands of people who commit suicide in South Korea every year.
No.74333
>>74249
>Only the 1% got access to television and video games, got it.
You do realize they have that shit in most third world countries.
No.74335
>>74333
So you're not happy until the poor get a lambo also?
No.74338
>>74333
By that logic, Americans would still be in abject poverty if they all had hovercars and personal servant robots, if citizens in the Third World also had them. Your standards of poverty are all either relative, meaning that it would be impossible to abolish poverty without making everyone equal, or they're not rational at all but are purely emotion-based. That's why we can't have reasonable discussions with you on poverty. That, and you insist that the US is still a free market paradise.
No.74343
>>74338
Having a phone or compute that has vidia on it doesn’t mean you aren’t in poverty when you can barely afford housing and healthcare.
No.74344
>>74343
>housing
>healthcare
Incidentally, these are two markets that the government cannot leave alone for the love of it. If all the goods that the poor are lacking are those that the government provides or heavily subsidizes (healthcare, housing, security from crime, education…), while the goods provided by freer markets (vidya and television) are accessible to them, then you should reconsider if the market is really part of the problem.
No.74349
>>74313
It can be descended from it but it has moved on from it.
No.74350
>>74343
Phones and computers are not necessities. Pic related.
No.74351
>>74350
Never said they were. But having them, but being unable to pay for basic needs is a problem.
No.74353
>>74351
If they have them without having basic needs, then there is a problem of priorities, which falls upon them and not the larger populace.
No.74356
>>74353
No it means those stuff is way cheeper then basic needs.
No.74357
>>74356
It doesn't imply that at all.
No.74358
>>74357
Well that’s what’s happing.
No.74360
attempt to contribute
>>74358
poverty usually means relative poverty tbg, there are a greater proportion of people under the average in america but the average is higher.
No.74361
i have a hard time believing material well being for children is really worse in america than in, for example, greece, spain or the uk.
No.74367
>>74350
They are basic needs. Good luck having a job without either.
No.74370
>>74367
They are not basic needs.
Basic needs imply only food and medicine, and maybe guns to defend yourself with.
No.74372
>>74367
If these gadgets count as necessities, then we must conclude that poverty has indeed decreased.
No.74374
>>74360
HAHAHAHA oh god you commies are amazing. If you think that not having a wide screen LCD or a second PC is poverty then you are just some spoiled kid from the suburb.
Having running water, electricity and an apartment that I don't share with 3 other families is already a luxury.
No.74379
>>74374
Well if we just took Wyatt Koch’s money we could have enough shit to fulfill everyone’s needs.
No.74381
>>74379
Couldn't quickly find how big a fortune Wyatt Koch has, so let's take Bill Gates instead, who is definitely richer than him. According to Forbes, he has a fortune worth 86 billion dollars. That's a little over eleven dollars for each person on the planet. Enough to fulfill all our needs, you say?
No.74384
>>74379
Why don't I take your money instead, scum?
No.74385
>>74379
Stupid, very, very stupid. Stealing other people's money, no matter how rich they are, is not the way to prosperity.
No.74388
>>74381
Even if you only divvied it up for people in the US, everyone would only get 263 bucks.
No.74392
>>74374
Check your brain man, that's a satirical image that's supposed to show how well of Americans are. The Daily Signal is a "conservative" propaganda division news website of the conservative "think tank" The Heritage Foundation.
No.74393
>>74388
I think I read somewhere that if you were to tax the top 10% of America at 100% of their income, it would only be enough to feed the welfare state for a year (and obviously those top 10% would disappear so you couldn't do it again).
>>74360
Let's look at those numbers relatively. If I remember right, an internet connection outside of business/school was a luxury of the rich and those who needed to work from home before the mid 2000s (I was still using floppy disks up until 2005, didn't get my first USB drive until 2012). Some 90% of the population still didn't own a microwave back in the 90s. An increasing portion of the population is DROPPING cable/satellite television (myself included since last June). I was using CRT TVs up until 2012 give or take… And this graph is from 2014.
The reason 25% don't have a car is because a car is considered personal wealth in the welfare state, E.G. a car actually disqualifies you from earning benefits in most cities. I know people who saved up enough to buy a car to go get a job, and they had to quit because they'd lose their welfare if they did. When you have a library right down the street/free internet at half the businesses in town/free internet at the school, internet at home does become a luxury item. How much does a videogame system cost? A computer (that's buyable at normalfag places like Wal-Mart ad not NewEgg)? A big screen TV? Notice how that graph doesn't even address running water or electricity because those are considered givens, whereas even in parts of Europe and Asia, running water/consistent electricity is a pipe dream. The only places that don't have running water in America are the boonies. That infograph is a joke speaking as someone who grew up in a household making less than $30,000/year between five people, and still managed to have a TV/Internet/Cable/Game Systems.
No.74701
>>74374
meh, they're richer than certain people in the world, i think it's illuminating that they really don't have computers and a third don't have tv.
No.74702
>>74701
Keep in mind the graph is from 2014, the "cheap computer boom" didn't really take off until 2016. Most of those that don't have a computer either have a smartphone/similar device with internet access, or they have pretty much constant access to a computer via the Library/Local College/Workforce Center/etc.
No.74712
>>74389
>iPhones are basic human rights
No.74735
>>74712
this one is better
>sex is basic human right
>happiness is basic human right
No.74740
>>74735
gfs are a basic human right))))
No.74782
>>73826
The only reason Iceland is still superior is that the niggers don't want to move there yet 'cause it's cold.
No.74784
>>74782
Iceland, being one of the last pure Nordic lands left might still cuck itself to oblivion like Sweden, but faster because it's smaller. That would make Japan the best country on Earth.
No.74794
>>74784
>posting Galko
>posting straight shota
From one patrician to another, you sir, have exquisite taste~
No.74866
>>74784
saudi arabia is pretty uncucked as well
No.74871
>>74866
You're baiting, I hope?
No.74873
>>74866
Barbarians are no less "cucked" than the beta males who welcome them with open arms.
No.74877
>>74866
HAHAHA
Saudi Arabia - come home white man!
No.74920
>>74866
Cucking out isn't the only way to make your country shit.