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 No.71798

What is it about autocracy that you can't not admire, /liberty/?

Is it their ruthless efficiency? Their lightning-quick responsiveness in military conflict? The incredible admirable qualities of their alpha male leaders? The fact that you are all a bunch of collectivist anti-individualist betas who could never build a society that exhibits these things?

 No.71799

What is it about dicks that you can't stop sucking them, OP? Is it their veiny shafts? Is it their throbbing purple heads? Is it their tasty white gooey cum? The fact that you secretly envy them because you never get your micropenis sucked?


 No.71801

>>71799

nice

fapped to your post tbqh, thanks brosef


 No.71802

>>71801

Have you ever tried shitting on the floor and then fapping to the sight and smell of it, my nigger?


 No.71814

>>71798

>you can't not admire,

What did you mean by this?


 No.71815

>>71814

"You can't resist", but poorly worded. Trust me, I've got a PhD in lefty babble.


 No.71816

>>71798

>collectivist anti-individualists

>/liberty/

I think you're confused anon we are individualistic.

Besides wasn't Machiavelli's book more a coded criticism against the ruling powers he worked for that and warning against hiring mercenaries.


 No.71862

>>71798

>autocracy

>leftypol flag

really nigga?


 No.71863

>>71862

He's just being honest with himself.


 No.71864

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>>71862

>implying there are no left-wing autocracies

anarkiddie brainlet spotted

autocracy is objectively superior to democracy, hell even right wing autocracy is superior to left-wing democracy, but left-wing autocracy is the best system


 No.71865

Behind every great man are hundreds or even thousands of advisers. I can admire great rulers while still not wanting to be ruled much in the same way I can admire old soviet weapons without being a fucking commie.


 No.71872

>>71864

1. I ran the numbers on this pic. Population growth under Stalin halved by them.

2. Official Soviet sources, are you for real?

3. There's plenty of evidence. Not hard to find if you look for it.


 No.71873

actually you could consider me a sort of autocrat when looking at my political fantasies, its just that the domain I lord over includes only myself for subjects and all else I keep close are mercenary or alliances

my right over my kingdom (myself) granted through gods will as well as my ability to control it to a greater extent then anyone else


 No.71882

>>71873

I like this. Had a very similar train of thought too, a while ago, based on my reading about sovereignty in the early middle ages.


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 No.71918

Autocrats are really appealing to adolescent male teens and children, at least I thought they were. I think that's why so many kids and young adults become fascists or tankies, because they're all wrapped up in the aesthetic trappings of autocracy of power, strength, and masculinity. The figures remain interesting to me to read about but as people mature they lose this endearment toward these tyrants. When I see grown adults still adoring figures like Stalin, Mao, Adolf Hitler, etc. I can't help but think they're emotionally stunted or maybe insecure about their own identity.


 No.71919

>>71918

Couldn't have put this any better.


 No.71964

>>71918

>I think that's why so many kids and young adults become fascists or tankies, because they're all wrapped up in the aesthetic trappings of autocracy of power, strength, and masculinity

funny you say that because roughly 15 years ago you could replace facists with liberals and you would be 100% correct. Turns out humanity would rather have fascism than liberalism. You could make the argument that media skews perception but then if that was the case then why did the liberals lose so much power when right winged ideas began sprouting?


 No.71997

Clean street, strong military, the idea of shared culture and national unity.


 No.72004

>>71798

Because hierarchy is bad.

People put in a position of power will be corrupted. They will abuse their power for personal gain or fantasy and they will eventually use it to stay in power.

GTFO Tankie.


 No.72016

>>72004

Hierarchy naturally forms, to stop the forming of hierarchy, you ironically need to form a hierachy.


 No.72069

>>71918

>the aesthetic trappings of autocracy of power, strength,

a reasonable explaination. is that really the entire appeal?


 No.72072

>>72069

I guess another aspect is that it gives a person power to fix problems as they see fit.


 No.72075

>>72072

This is true. There's this weird fallacy that the government can will things to happen. It declares that drugs are illegal, and so drugs stop existing. What they forget is that these laws have to be executed, which can often go wrong, and that even when they are executed in good faith, they can miss their mark totally and have an effect other than the one intended.

It's completely obvious that the government can't do magic, and most people would admit so if you pointed it out (besides trained economists, they will stay adamant that the government can create wealth by printing bills). But still, people tend to think along these lines. That this is conductive to autocracy goes without saying.


 No.72093

>>72069

Personally I'm so far away from the head space of authority sycophants that I don't think I could ever fathom anything more than a superficial appeal. I will admit there is a certain kind of appeal to well-ordered marching soldiers, every window waving a flag, and a people united by common language and heritage. But any mature adult should be able to see past all this as pure propaganda, which is why I tend to assume most authoritarians are either teenagers or young adults. It'd be almost pitiable to see a grown adult still enchanted by authoritarianism if it wasn't such a reprehensible ideology.


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 No.72120

Autocracies tend to become bloated and sclerotic while raising up insane fools to leadership.




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