/liberty/ - Liberty

>sacred principles of egoism

>>70053

>Only not acting in your self interest and trying to crush this state will be illegal

>not acting in your self interest

>illegal

So it enforces egoistic behavior. As what's in my self interest depends on my personal priorities, that means the state will not just demand specific outside behavior, but specific motivation behind it. That, however, is almost guaranteed to lead to totalitarianism.

Not just that, your proposal is self-refuting. Why would an egoist care that other people act egoistically? The state, then, acts as an altruist who's enforcing egoism.

>>70053

how do you tell what is egoistic and what is not?

>>70055

You're goddamn right

>>70060

What is egoistic is what is in your personnal interest, so without ever acting for any cause or feelings for other people

>>70088

what if egoist wants to help others because it is in his interest?

>>70096

This: >>70088

>What is egoistic is what is in your personnal interest

Then he's still an egoist. Intention is important, not what the act looks like from the outside.

>>70102

no one can escape egoism

prove me wrong

>>70139

Kek, not gonna do it, because if your definition of egoism is broad enough, then it's true that everyone is an egoist. I don't think such a definition is useful, however.

>>70144

> I don't think such a definition is useful, however.

He is right. The standard definition of egoism needs to be expanded. Whether or not you're acting in your self-interest is not the issue. It's about how you conduct your actions towards it.

>>70149

Is there supposed to be an argument in here?

>>70096

How can it be in his self interest?

>>70169

because s/he derives happiness/pleasure from caring for his/her close friends/family

>>70172

Please do not conflate Ayn Rand with Stirner

>>70336

She was the superior philosopher, even with all her autism. Stirner frequently substituted assertions for arguments and he hasn't aged well at all.

>>70336

You do know what conflate means, right?

>>70336

no

fuck you

Egoism is fine, next step should be Anarcho-Narcissism. no I'm not being ironic. irony is for normalfags.

Egoism doesn't have obvious political implications, unless you're Ayn Rand.

It is my self interest to crush the state.