/liberty/ - Liberty

>>64478

Pretty much, yes. A bit less advanced than omegle at this point, perhaps as it was few years ago. Will upgrade it though.

Pasta:

Alright, OP going off.

I will leave the website online but it will probably get worse from here since it seems that it works well from the start, then when indexes increase things start collapsing.

I will try making the thread same time tomorrow after I rewrite the send/receive code completely.

This went better in reception than I thought it would, but sadly also worse in performance. The issue is, I can't even figure out why the chats are messing up. Still, the way I intend to rework it will probably bypass whatever error is happening now.

I want to thank everyone for participating.

My contact is admin@poldare.com if you need me for whatever reason.

It's back up with some fixes.

Added a printing option at the end of a chat.

There is only me and like one communist rn

>>64475

I'll check this later. Got a lot of shit to deal with right now, sorry.

You've got to share this with the normie sites, they could make this huge.

I've been waiting in the queue forever this is gay

make a thread on cuckchan

I take back everything I said, eternal queues puts this dead on arrival.

BUT the site need some feature like:

1. a sound that warns the user when queue ends

2. an "the user is typing" that shows when the other user is typing

3. the possibility to choose our opponent like our ideology (communist, natsoc etc.)

I don't seem to receive the other dude's messages for some reason. I assume not everyone out of ~10 anons I've found stops responding after saying hello, at any rate.

Probably something on my end but thought you'd like issues reported.

>>64909

Trying, my idea is android app for now. Will see how that works out.

>>65017

Glad you rike

>>65023

>1. a sound that warns the user when queue ends

It is supposed to play already, added that few days ago.

>2. an "the user is typing" that shows when the other user is typing

Not possible for now. I need dedicated server so I can implement websockets, so I can implement "user is typing" thing. If the userbase grows, I'll buy a server for that.

>3. the possibility to choose our opponent like our ideology (communist, natsoc etc.)

Will add as soon as the userbase grows. Right now, it's sort of obsolete tbh.

>>65036

It's people rejoining queues. It will join a queue so long as the last activity on it was 80 seconds ago, your queue refreshing every 50 seconds. Some people have a tendency to hit F5 (probably in belief that the website doesn't work as intended and that something is wrong with their queue), so when their match actually arrives it gets into their previous chatroom - now empty. The queues generally self-destruct when you close them so that doesn't happen, but some people are either using odd browsers (such as mobile) or using some odd method of closing the tab.

If you're saying that they do say something then just leave, then I don't really know what's going on. Does it drop the exit message or do they just stop responding completely? That was an issue on launch day, but it's supposed to be fixed now (at least no one was mentioning this since I implemented the fix).

>>65167

>It's people rejoining queues. It will join a queue so long as the last activity on it was 80 seconds ago, your queue refreshing every 50 seconds. Some people have a tendency to hit F5 (probably in belief that the website doesn't work as intended and that something is wrong with their queue), so when their match actually arrives it gets into their previous chatroom - now empty. The queues generally self-destruct when you close them so that doesn't happen, but some people are either using odd browsers (such as mobile) or using some odd method of closing the tab.

I did this. The 'have a chat with others while you wait' feature doesn't seem to work.

>>65168

Also, we're kept waiting quite a long time, so the instinct is to refresh

It's probably just the case that there is no else waiting

I've spoken to a guy who used an anarchist flag.

After I've spoken about why Mass Immigration of third-worlders is going to impact our freedom and he just responded literally with "They are going to calm down, if we just make them high on weed."

I then called him out on being a larper, which he admitted to. He said he wanted to roleplay as a 14-year-old anarchist skater boy.

We were the only people who were using the site, so I kept matching with him. We changed oru flags, "you again" we both said always. Then after more matches, I asked him if he was the skaterboy, which he denied, but by denying it he admitted that the knew who I meant in the first place.

>>65168

>>65169

Ah, I see. The "chat while you wait" thing is IRC is pointless anyway, and is often bugged (from their side). Will remove that.

>>65171

Yeah, that can suck I guess, until there is a significant userbase. I saw people drop the link on 4chan /pol/ threads, communism/natsoc/ancap general, I suppose dependeing on what they want. Someone generally joins in.

I'm working out the ways to spread the site over various political positions. If you have any good suggestion, do say. I'll shill for it.

Or, if you have some social media/forum following, do share. Just notify me and I'll put you in special thanks section (coming soon [TM]).

OP here.

Already asked around for advice. Does /liberty/ know how I could spread it in order to get a number of users where it could sustain itself? What I means is effective shilling methods, I guess.

>>65587

>asking one of the least popular political ideologies how to get popular

I wish I could help

>>65587

Try minds.com, it's supposed to have a lively political community. Omegle might also work, but most of the people there are degenerates. Oh, and reddit, but please don't.

>>65697

>Try minds.com, it's supposed to have a lively political community.

Made an account, but couldn't quite figure it out. I used those promotion points but the feedback is much lower than from your average 4chan thread.

I bet there is a way though.

>reddit

Tried, useless. My account doesn't have enough upboats to be taken seriously.

>>65699

I often noticed that people have multi-hour chats. Glad you like bro.

I want a spy mode. I wanna lurk moar. I just want to watch other folks' chats.

>>64475

>Add an option for public/private chats

>make the image in the background of the chat non-interactable so the scrolbar can be usable

>improve the interface. Stop using rounded corners everywhere. siiimple.com.

>get a better font.

>Are you trying to make money off off it? If not, put it on github.

>make sure your server relays messages so this doesn't happen:

HOME

Chatting as: Libertarian



Progressive: Hello.

Me: Hello!

Me: Are youa tranny?

Progressive: What would you say is your primary belief

Me: Not really a libertarian, but more of a lasseiz-faire, moral minarchist

Progressive: no

Me: capitalist

Me: ye

Me: Primary board?

Me: ?

Me: hellllllllllllllooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Progressive: fair enough, do you mean monarchist, never heard of minarchist

Me: No, not monarchist.

Me: Minarchist means small government

Progressive: so you believe in a small government but no government control?

Me: Just police, armed forces and the court

Me: Just police, armed forces and the courtYes

Me: sorry

Me: es

Me: uh

Me: yes

Me: I happen to believe in voluntary taxation

Progressive: what makes you think that people wouldn't abuse that system?

Me: The laws would be strict, there'd be nothing to abuse because the government would have very little power

Progressive: Why would people feel obliged to pay taxes when people around them aren't, and why would people want to be policemen etc if they might not get paid?

Progressive: or are you suggesting that public services are paid in other ways

Me: Policemen and the army is paid.

Me: The only way it will be guaranteed is if the people pay, but no one will be forced to pay because it is no one'

Me: because it is no one's business how much money someone else can afford to give to the government.

Progressive: Hello?

Me: I just relied

Me: *replied

Me: three messages, before your "hello"

Me: did you get them?

Me: a

Me: hey!

Me: oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Progressive: Well im going to treat that as a win

Server: Other user left.

>>65814

>pressing the home button after ending a chat does not work

>enable users to zoom out by using a fixed-width container for the entire page instead of relative sizes.

>the patreon link isn't centered.

>they're supposed to be flags, stop putting them in circles.

>Allow users to choose names.

>>65815

>The chat box doesn't clear two seconds after the mesage is sent, so anything new you type is lost.

>The website is kinda slow.

>The title should update if there's a new message, like 4chan.

>What is the 'A' button for?

Firefox x64 btw

>>65815

>>65814

>>65817

>Add an option for public/private chats

I intend to do something like that, but it will require a lot of reworking.

>make the image in the background of the chat non-interactable so the scrolbar can be usable

Not sure if it's what's preventing the scrollbar usage, but could be. Will try.

>improve the interface. Stop using rounded corners everywhere. siiimple.com.

Maybe, will have to try it out first

>get a better font.

If this is a reference from windows machine, the font actually used is Ubuntu. See >>65659

The issue is that I can easily include the font but through google storage, which, let's be real, sucks. I'll fix this within a day or two.

>Are you trying to make money off off it? If not, put it on github.

Maybe in the future via subtle ads, or if someone donates through patreon. And no, won't put it on github.

>make sure your server relays messages so this doesn't happen

I'm still unsure what is the cause of that in some conversations. It is hard to recreate for me because I never know whether the other user disconnected, what's on his side, etc, since whenever I test it by myself it works fine. This is the pressing issue overall.

>pressing the home button after ending a chat does not work

Care to recreate? I just tried and it worked fine.

>the patreon link isn't centered.

Link? Everything looks fine here, with exception of mobile.

>they're supposed to be flags, stop putting them in circles.

Maybe. 1 person suggested something similar.

>Allow users to choose names.

Could do. Not the most important thing at the moment.

>The chat box doesn't clear two seconds after the mesage is sent, so anything new you type is lost.

It's the issue of whole framework atm. It's supposed to clear as soon as server is reached with your old message. I suppose it depends on your connection. As a workaround, I could prevent typing until it's cleared overall.

>The title should update if there's a new message, like 4chan.

Will do.

>What is the 'A' button for?

Try it out, instead of enter (can't work with empty textbox). Will add explanations to the whole thing later.

>>65814

>chatlog

One important question:

Did you by some chance attempt to connect with another queue in the same browser when that happened?

I suppose you did not because your messages were printed, but I have to ask.

If not, any other circumstances around that?

Also, fixed the image/scrollbar thing as suggested.

Good suggestions above. Change log so far:

-fixed image/scrollbar thing

-home button during the chat is fixed

-the part of message after you hit enter no longer disappears, but is transferred into empty entry box

-limited number of characters in entry box, so that part of your message doesn't disappear

>>65874

>If not, any other circumstances around that?

Nope, a single instance of the website was open and my internet's decent (20Mb/s)

>>65916

Alright, I did something about that. When you fail to fetch messages (example, server failing to respond in time) it calls for backup javascript function that forces connection once a minute until it is established again.

It is still possible that it will eat 1 message from time to time, but it shouldnt stop responding for more than that.

How about adding a feature to allow others to watch the ongoing chats? I think it's useful for a debate… Users can still choose to made the chat private.

>>66008

Considering this, it's generally a good idea. Lot of work though, will have to figure it out.

Lots of users in the last few hours. Mostly due to 4chan thread, but reddit shilling is worth it I suppose.

added Public Chat option.

Among many other things.

The notification sound is really fucking annoying.

>>66264

How do you observe the public chats?

Also you could add an Omegle-style 'question' mode

>>66398

Will add toggle on sounds.

>>66415

If a public chat is active you are able to click it from a homepage.

Omegle type question, maybe in the future. Right now I might implement submitting public question then just rolling them.

>>66429

Nah, then it just fails the function of notification. You could replace it with something less audibly intrusive instead of something that sounds like tapping on glass.

>>66497

Will find free alternatives.

Also, 4/pol/ thread is live for now. Would appreciate bumps.

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/140649094

Now has "other user is typing" for longer posts.

What exactly is the difference between Libertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, and Classical Liberalism?

>>67238

>"taxation is theft"

>"pay tribute for protection but its really not a tax"

>"lower taxes"

>>67283

I don't see "libertarian" on there

>>67286

It's the same as classical liberalism or minarchism, depending on how narrow your definition is.

Added https.

Special thanks to AnCap from 4/pol/ thread.

Also, here's a live 4/pol/ thread if someone cares to bump:

Finally added https.

Also, there's a 4/pol/ thread here, if someone cares to bump:

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/141143756

>>67283

That's not really accurate. That's not even.

A lot of country governments provide Energy. Its so popular it might as well be Classical Liberalism tier.

>>67538

Classical liberalism isn't exactly what modern states are though.

>>67332

Yeah, my point was that the categories are shitty because the definitions are overlapping.

Libertarianism can be ancap, minarchist, or any degree of Libertarianism really.

>>67283

There is some nuance with this, considering what we today call liberalism and what it originally was.

Stirnerism falls under none of these, and neither does my special snowflake ideology, egocracism: https://8ch.net/leftypol/res/2071891.html

>>67678

To remedy this problem, I suggest you add two new options: "anarchy" (for anprims, antrans, mutualists, etc.) and "egoism". Why not "centrist" too? That's it. It won't become cluttered, but with those three additions it'll be complete.

>>67679

OR: let them choose from the available icons (or maybe those + anarchist, centrist & egoist), but then let them customize the text, like a reddit flair. So if the natsoc wanted to specify that they're a strassierist they could, or if the ancom wanted to be known as a syndicalist they could write that down.

>>67678

>>67679

>>67680

I think I'll add branching groups in the future and include many more ideologies tbh. That would be the easiest thing to do.

Also, here's a live 4/pol/ thread if somebody cares to bump:

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/141609337

>>68917

Might be a good idea to include an "anarchists without adjectives" or black flag as a catch-all for the plurality of anarchists who fit neither of those categories. Maybe even a mutualist category.

>>64475

This is actually a surprisingly good concept, changing the scenery from a shitpost wasteland to an intimate one-on-one conversation.

Maybe the site could use topical tags or subjects on political topics or issues or current events even.

>>68970

New positions will be implemented soon, still considering what I'll put in.

>>69013

Glad you like it. Also, something like daily subject/issue will be implemented.

I'm also looking for writers, if some of you care to give it a try:

https://poldare.com/press/article.php?id=3

Added some new BGs. Accepting suggestions for others.

http://poldare.com/press/article.php?id=12&t=new-backgrounds

Also added function that tells you position name on hover over flag (in-chat only).

Initially I wanted to put Hoppe as background for libertarians, but couldn't find a good high-res image where he is looking slightly towards the left. If someone has/knows of it, do post.

>>69148

Not many people seem to use it any more. You should make threads informing people of the new features and telling them to get on

But do you still want submissions?

>>69351

>Not many people seem to use it any more. You should make threads informing people of the new features and telling them to get on

I stopped posting and let the thread die, I'll have to rework it to work better with 10+ chats. It's a bit useless otherwise. That should be fixed within the next two days.

>But do you still want submissions?

Certainly.

>>69352

>Certainly.

Good; I sent an email

>>69353

When? Nothing new in inbox.

>>69354

You might not have known it was me. I got a very nice reply anyway.

>>69355

Ah, Mr. ZPT, good to see you again!

I'm off to sleep, back among the living in ~8 hours.

>no Monarchist choice. fail. also it seems quiet now

>>65715

6 year redditor here but that was before the chans got super-redpilled there was a time when Reddit actually had more Reactionary opinions than the chans did for a short while

you also might want to distinguish NazBols from Marxist Communists as the two themselves even feud, and if you're feeling extra salty, De Leonism and Trotskyism could be added (Posadas even) and Luxemburgism. Left Communism, Maoism, National Conservatives and Neoconservatives are often seen butting heads, and yeah like I said Monarchism and straight Totalitarianism should be added too.

>>67678

I misread that as egoracism. sounds like Samuel Lin to me. no wonder cargocult's tranny banned you.

>>65659

Why don't I see this?