/kind/ - Random Acts of Kindness★

>>29934 (OP)

I feel you, friend :^(, and, i have nothing to say, sorry, uhmmm, it sometimes help, but i don't like it, because then i don't know how fucked up is my real situation :s

>>29938

>cognitive behavioral therapy.

How's that?

>>29948

This sucks my friend, the worst thing is that i really, really know that feel, i'm diagnossed with the same, and it's just, too sad :c but i want to believe that there's a way to get oever this.

>>29959

Sometimes life fuck you up too hard, that you don't even can have acces to visit those kind of places :c

>>29962

can't**

>>29962

Then just imagine doing it and see if that helps?

I only know about natural medicines (which the artificial ones are derived from) I saw a documentary about the amazon jungle in which the doctors could cure just about anything by knowing which plant was good for it.

There's also energy work but I can only talk from my experiences.

If you really have it that bad that none of this helps then you might wanna visit

>>>/mental/ and talk about it there.

I don't so much like to try and tell people what to expect of taking their antidepressants because I feel mentally screwed up all around so you gotta keep that in mind with how I try to convey this to you. Antidepressants can very well help you move along relaxed but most anyone will tell you there's a negative aspect and they don't quite fix anything. They mellow you out but in turn that affects your mood overall, making a veil over your emotions that can feel frustrating in it's own way (often enough people say they get to feeling like a zombie). Also you're likely enough to feel a little sick from side effects (be it for a week or so or something that you have to put up with as long as you take them to get the benefits), not like tampering with your brain chemicals is gonna be smooth. They work better for some than others but they're sure no great treatment.

It's been so long since I first started taking the crap in different forms but trying to look back I think I identify much to how I've always been (to my dismay really). I can only imagine the stuff is 't good for you but if you think you might need it to get by I say go for it. If you have to wonder than just try one to see how it works. That said if you then feel like you'd rather not take them, that you appreciate the benefits but think you're better off without, I would trust that feeling.

Would I feel better off without my meds? I don't think it's really possible for me to live in this society without them but often enough I want to see what it felt like again even though I know it was lousy in still somewhat familar ways.

I was paranoid thinking the earth was going to explode, or runaway climate change will happen, then I remembered I would be dead so I got over it. Then I thought aliens were talking to me for a while and I went completely insane thinking I was going to hell forever, then I saw that no matter how much of a facade life was over some insidious demonic plot I loved to much to let it go. It is okay Op, you do not need the drugs.

>>29968

Ehmmmm, tbh, yes, it works sometimes, more with music and in the night c:

>>29968

I know, sometimes ppl think that everything will be fixed with one pill, and i really feel weird, it's like: "i'll feel better, but i already know how's my situation, am i fooling myself? what should i do feelin' better? what if i forget taking my pill?" etc…

>>29970

I'm kinda paranoid repect to my mandible, i think that is going to stop "working one day" and the doctor will take it off.. something like that, then i forget about it with the pill, and then i think about why i forget it, and, yeah,

They don't "change the chemistry" of your brain, they just give you back the neurotransmitters (substances required to THINK) everyone else has. If you're too stupid to take your mental illness seriously maybe you should just be miserable

>>29936

That pretty much sums up my own experiences with SSRIs. I'd rather have some emotion rather than feeling clamped.

I'm taking 20mg citalopram but still depressed, though i'm worried it would be worse if i wasn't on meds. Taking a break from weed to see if it helps. I noticed I gained interests again after starting the meds though, so that's nice.

>>29990

Damn Friend, mean. It's not like fiddling with your brain functions should feel safe and if it were as simple as you make it out to be there'd be awful little suffering.

The 1998 US Army document 'Bioeffects of Selected Nonlethal Weapons' says,

"investigators are even beginning to describe similarities between microwave irradiation and drugs regarding their effects on biological systems.

For example, some suggest that power density and specific absorption rate (SAR) of microwave irradiation may be thought of as analogous to the concentration of the injection solution and the dosage of a drug." [1]

And, as the 'volume' or power density is turned up on microwave transmissions, with increased antenna towers, Wi-Fi, Wi-MAX, mobiles etc., we now receive a microwave dose often millions of times higher than what was studied 20 years ago.

Without grounding or earthing, the effects from the radiation keeps saturating the body to the point it ceases to function properly.

>>30038

I'd once heard there was this town with a bunch of radio towers or whatever that had crap running through the atmosphere and there was a bunch of negativity among people. They had those people move out into the country and they mellowed out tremendously, couples no longer fighting and junk. Sometimes I think it would be nice to go to a town in middle of nowhere and just see how well I get along there. Sure it wouldn't just be these waves as a factor, just imagining somehow getting away from things sounds nice.

go get your minerals checked by a blood lab, my depression only got worse on antidepressants where I couldnt stop about killing myself for years and went away instantly with liquid magnesium.

antidepressants are the new circumcision, despite miserable clinical results its pushed by doctors like candy as a miracle cure.

it ought to be a last resort in my opinion, make sure you're sleeping right, eating right, and supplementing right if you cant get natural sources of everything you're in deficient in.

>info on magnesium and how its used in almost every process in the body

https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Magnesium-HealthProfessional/

>study showing anti-depressants dont even beat placebo here in the west

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3736946/

>Rapid recovery from major depression using magnesium treatment.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16542786

Make sure to always do your own research, Doctors are often lazy, unattached or just plain greedy like any other profession, furthermore very few of them actually make an effort to stay current in their fields, instead relying on the info they got when they went through training 20 years ago.

I've had Zoloft, albeit under a different name. It worked for a couple of days, after which it was largely unnoticeable. The major impact was upon my sleep - I had horrendous nightmares, two or three times a week.

If you abuse them, you get a sort of nasty amphetamine high that lasts thirty or forty hours & makes your bones feel creaky.

They did absolutely nothing to improve my mental health, but nor did they change me as a person. It's just an illusion of something medicinal. Take 'em if you're curious, but they won't help you.

My doc has me on 300mg Wellbutrin also known as Bupropion. Before that I was on Citalopram.

I guess it works in the sense of I don't always feel miserable now.

Also just to see

>>30000

yay for over 30000 nice posts

>>30085

I find it funny that even with the board super slow BO couldn't get the /kind/ get

I really can relate to your post, as someone who is on a spiritual path myself I had the exact same thoughts as you have.

what I've found is that ssri kind of helps, it makes an relief on anxiety but it also has side effects.

I haven't noticed my bodily awareness if self diminished or blunted and meditation is more focused as my ego isn't as loaded from daily anxiety interactions.

I tried magnesium in 100mg daily before trying this as magnesium surely will make you less tense, but also very constipated since it slows the motility of the intestines together with all the other muscles in your body.

What made me finally try ssri and "give in" was how extremely difficult and dramatic simple things had become when pressure was applied, I am studying in a university and two retakes closely together was passed with sheer luck since studying on anxiety is quite difficult due to intrusive thoughts, ocd and other anxiety related symptoms. Not that I haven't been in similar situations before, I was just tired of barely passing, by sheer luck and enormous anxiety.

With ssri you will find the momentum to start making positive changes like going out without feeling weird and stressed, so see it as a temporary tool you can choose to try, try the smallest dose, it makes a difference. I've suffered for 30 years and I feel much better daily because of this "supplement".

I am currently on sertraline which I take 25mg daily, I could take more but I am cautious of the side effects.

There are a lot of different meds to try, so don't think that if one doesn't work the rest are the same.

also English is not my first language so excuse any errors.

>>30088

Despite English not being your first language you're probably the most well-spoken in it on this board. I guess that intuition just carries over or whatever, regardless that's some good advice.

>>30057

I went ahead and bought some magnesium supplement tablets. I tried one today before my anti-depresant and I noticeably got a little bit of a calming, evening-out feeling in my head similar to the meds. I don't feel terribly different but of course I wouldn't so soon (and with my medication fogging up the results). If in the coming weeks I feel changed in any significant degree I suppose I'll post again.

Guys help.

So I was prescribed meds to combat anxiety, and with it my depressive tendencies too. They say I have problems in my brain with the serotonin receptors; which is a neurotransmitter known for its ties with joy and happiness.

Whenever I take the pills, it makes me feel better in that I feel like everything's going to be OK and I can just continue on normally.

But when I'm off, I feel miserable and everything feels like it's not worth fighting for.

At this point I don't know if:

1) My life actually what's wrong and the meds only ease my pain.

2) My brain is off-balance, making me feel like everything is bad, and the meds calibrate my brain and make it normal.

I mean, the facts go to number 2, but I don't like the implications that I'm actually not sane. I mean, I am, am I? I still function as a normal person, I'm still out and about on a daily basis.

Oh, and I type this as soon as I took my meds after a long day, and as it kicks in more and more I feel that what I typed here was nonsense. It feels weird, is this real or is this placebo?

>>30976

All I can say is it's likely you're not imagining things. Consider this, maybe you're feeling two extremes. On one end of the day you feel shitty and everything is shitty and on the other you get your artificial influx of whatever and it feels like nothing is wrong. Neither of those are ideal but if maybe that is the case maybe you should decide whether this medicine or any is right for you.

Again though I'm a guy who's been taking the crap most his life and otherwise am too retarded to know what's what so take my advice with a grain of salt (whatever the hell that saying means, I aint looking it up).

>>30461

By the way I've given up on these things for the most part, all I ever really notice anymore is a tightness in my chest (like, am I hurting my nerves instead?) alongside me indefinitely trying to convince myself I otherwise feel better than usual when I pop the pill. I dunno.

"Baby did you forget to take your meds"

Is this a good bully song? Or is this a /kind/ song?

>I kinda don't want to go get it. I managed to get by without meds. What if being depressed is just part of what makes me, "me". What if feeling shitty is natural because life and society is shitty.

I've always struggled with this idea, not that I've ever taken any meds and it's hard to actually get those in my country since doctors always advise to seek help through therapy and medicine, but sometimes I just don't actually want to be cured off depression because I also fear that I would not be the same person anymore. I have been depressed for years now and it has not just affected my personality, it has become my personality so to speak, outside of being sad and hating everything I don't think I really have any personality traits.

>>30463

>The reason why you pay them money is because its their job, they are an expert at it.

Nah, they often have no idea what the fuck they're doing, that has been my experience with them so far. (not OP btw)

I'd ultimately advise against taking psychiatric meds unless you are completely unstable. For those out there who see this, address your underlying problems and try and move forward. Life is about ups and downs. If you can deal with life without the medicine and aren't unstable, do it. These meds are over perscribed by an overzealous industry and thats something that I'd like to note for those who read this.

>>29934 (OP)

I've taken zoloft for almost 5 years, I'm 25 now.

I still hate myself deeply. The difference is that if I stop taking it I feel absolutely miserable. Drives me nuts. It's like paying a subscription to feel normal.

Of course the doctor keeps telling me "if you're not feeling great you should increase the dose". Fuck that.

In a nutshell it's made me feel better, yes. But my attitude hasn't changed, I still live without purpose.

Of course the pills can't fix that, the world is a sick sad place no matter how many pills I shove down my throat. Getting out of that mindset is like trying to believe in Santa again.

>>29934 (OP)

SSRIs made me realize… That I don't like being happy.

>>32603

Life is hard in your 20s, man.

No one lives with purpose.

You simply live.

No need to think further, It won't bring you solace even if you found an answer.

Just do the best you can with the life you are given.

>>29948

>>29946

I'd like to add that I got over my depression using meditation, no drugs whatsoever. It's definitely possible, and I'd definitely recommend that everyone begin practicing meditation for things like depression or anxiety.

>>29934 (OP)

Talking from experience here, i have been trough the same.

Wim Hof method

Kundalini Yoga

These practices will heal you, and there are actual scientifical explanations on why they work.

the only thing you truly need is commitment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1ial3Rc7Xg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np0jGp6442A

http://www.wimhofmethod.com/video-miniclass/

http://www.kundaliniyoga.org/

http://www.pinklotus.org/

You are not alone, there's always a way to fix things.