/k/ - Weapons

>>670679

But will there be refugees?

>>670682

there already were, but they were contained to other spic nations, IIRC

Weren't there already several other coups?

Fucking idiots, should have done it on the May Day to forever stain the commie day.

Don't believe it until I see it.

We need livestreams everywhere of every conflict.

>>670692

What if they win by tomorrow?

>>670698

There already exist 4 million niggers escaping from Venezuela.

Shit's not gonna stop until americans start taking arms to protect their border.

>>670679

>Guy post a video of himself with 2 APCs and 12 guys in uniform, not even in combat gear…

>Call the people to take to the streets and do the coup for them.

>No reports of fighting or the military taking places of power.

>Chavistas are free to use use all their usual propaganda relays to have their partisans assemble.

>Do this on the eve of the 1st of may, when there will be the most Chavistas around.

>I guess it's because they shipped "a unit" loyal to the putsch close to the capital for a parade or something but still.

That's it???

Jesus this is even more pathetic than Turkey.

I guess the CIA is paying the price of their diversity hires.

>>670679

Livestream.

>>670709

The one that isn't a communist.

>>670711

I think Guaido is commie-lite™

>>670709

Everybody dies due to an unknown viral agent being released.

>>670709

It's like turkey, I'm rooting for a maximum of death.

>>670709

We should support which ever side is currently losing to keep the conflict going as long as possible. Rolling for dead spics.

>>670709

I'm rooting for death

>>670681

>Of course the best happening has to occur during finals week.

Don't even mention it. Instead of being able to cherish freely on the impending happening, I have to prepare for these stupid finals. Whatever, I'll probably drop out this year due to indifference, boredom and alcohol overconsumption and join the army.

>>670720

>Current reports seem to indicate that it's been a complete failure.

You got a source there? If it's even vaguely Chavez related it can be discounted until supported by several independent sources (citing other reports). Pretty sure that the official Venezuelan government line is going to be 'nothing to see here' until it's over.

>>670709

the side which kills the most spics and bites the jew's hand

>>670732

>>670718

>>670717

>>670715

>>670714

Based.

What ever happens we win because dead spics and combat footage.

>>670728

Just look at the stream >>670710

It's the people besieging the airbase the video was allegedly shoot at, besides that nothing seems to be happening (I think that channel is pro-coup but I'm not sure).

I'm thinking maybe it's an excuse to get a proper US invasion, there is two carriers that are operational and aren't doing anything and are just sitting in Norfolk.

>>670708

Sounds like something akin to the "let a hundred flowers bloom" tactic. You bait all your opponents into showing up, only to wipe them all out at once.

>>670739

Except it's the other side that has the numbers and the support of the most (if not all) of the armed forces.

It looks they just trying to incite chaos for the sake of chaos (which could be followed by a peaceful peacekeeping mission from Colombia/Brazil/US?)

>>670682

>But will there be refugees?

Yes, and that is the real goal here.

Trump's Jews don't really care what happens in these Shit-Holes, one way or another. Jews might support Jewish Communism against Capitalism, or as in this case, vise-versa.

The one true goal of the Jews is to destroy White ethnic nations, with immigration, by any means possible.

>>670679

South Americans have had quite a long peacetime, they have been due for a massive war for a while. I'm expecting this to be mostly bloodless.

>>670709

Maduro. Better a failed commie state than an oil-rich US puppet.

>>670783

>How did US glowinthedarkbeaners got US-made guns?

https://archive.is/x7ogZ

I know it's Russian "propaganda" but still Venezuelans use AKs as the standard rifle (AK-103 no less so 74M pattern but in 7.62x39mm), they had FALs before that, I don't think they ever used 5.56.

>>670783

>helmet

>cape

Geriatric revolutionary to the rescue

>>670785

AR57's are in 5.7FN hence the name.

>>670794

>>>/reddit/

>>670794

>LITRALEE [shit that never happened]

Unironically get McCastrated

>>670794

lurk 2 more years faggot

Hey bv did you delet >>670794 or did he get cold feet and self delet?

Some VZ kommandos are grouping to raid Maduro's current stronghold.

>>670805

Sauce?

>>670783

Maybe the AR's were Norinco chink stuff

>>670709

I'm rooting for someone to post some cool footage because I'm too lazy to trawl twitter for it.

>>670808

Nah, that's a Trijicon sight.

>>670679

Why can't the Koch brothers pay for a better and some proper merc army?

You can sense Guaido is retarded from kilometers away and I have seen more and better armed men stealing gasoline in my state.

>>670830

Lack of giving a shit.

Apparently, no one give a shit.

I heard some /k/ommandos are in there killing some niggas, anyone got any other info on it?

tons of video here:

https://twitter.com/ThomasVLinge/status/1123220963145994240/video/1

http://news.trust.org/item/20190430144200-hk2yf

https://www.apnews.com/0153cace08c84c8fbf34f9c6a7bdd4dd

>>670839

video of APC running over civilians

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6975871/Venezuelas-Juan-Guaido-calls-military-revolt-final-phase-overthrowing-President-Maduro.html#v-1167017555344601141

>>670839

Look like they were chilling.

>>670842

>>670843

Seems like it's mostly a small scale event outside an airbase for now.

>>670839

https://twitter.com/ThomasVLinge/status/1123196963460198402

bananas and raifu's lol

https://twitter.com/ThomasVLinge/status/1123239641191276545

crowd gets fired on

>>670709

Maduro. Not because I like him, but because I hate the neo-cons pushing for more destabilization in the world, and I want to see their masonic puppet get lynched.

As each Neocon coup attempt gets foiled the rhetoric and threats ramp up from the boomer in chief and friends. Now they are threatening Cuba with embargo to stop support to Venezuela.

>>670863

I'm for destabilization in the world, not for destabilization in the exact spot where the zog wants instability.

>>670863

>being a (((conservative))) of any kind

Keep holding on to whatever is left. You can't take it with you into the hereafter.

>>670857

>>670869

Maduro was doing a pretty great job of destabilizing his country long before Guaido became a factor. This isn't a Libya type situation where a strongman is keeping everything together until the US shows up and ruins it, it's a failed state run by a retarded commie that is going to collapse in on itself regardless of what the rest of the world does.

>>670873

No argument there, but now the US wants to depose the retarded commie to open the gate wider for venezuelan niggers.

This is a game where both sides are kikes.

>>670877

The real answer is just to glass everything until no one retarded remains

>>670783

>ar mag

>and P-90 mag?

>???

>>670830

Gotta jew fast I suppose.

>>670945

It's an AR-57 (5.7 mm upper) but they probably kept the regular mag in for a makeshit grip.

>>670949

For what purpose though?

>>670949

regular mag functions as a brass-catcher in this configuration

>>670951

5.7 mm is probably more common in Venezuela, would be my guess. The P90 is standard issue for police and body guards according to wikipedo.

>>670938

>/k/ommandos are living mercenaries 2 right now

What a time to be alive.

>>670908

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-57

>Are we gonna see a proper spic civil war, /k/

If by that you mean a decades long shitfit between autistic socialists and what will probably wind up being a CIA nigger backed puppet government, with both sides genociding entire villages because someone sneezed and it sounded like an dnemy slogan, then yeah, probably.

>>671010

>dnemy

enemy

>>670873

>it's a failed state run by a retarded commie that is going to collapse in on itself regardless of what the rest of the world does.

Doesn't mean some CIAnigger puppet should run the show instead

>>671017

Yeah I think Venezuela should be allowed a warring states period, as long as it remains within their borders, without fear of foreign intervention.

Brazilian version of CNN 'Globo' just reported that the lower patent soldiers are the ones siding against Maduro, while the majority of generals are in support of Maduro.

They also reported that 20 men from the Venezuelan military are in asylum in Brazil.

Not sure this was posted before, but there are literal Cuban special forces operating in Venezuela:

https://www.martinews.com/a/cuban-troops-suspected-to-be-in-venezuela-/32317.html

>>670938

This general being captured is big news and a victory for the rebels. Maduro is losing grip.

>>671017

Agreed. Not to mention this CIA puppet is literally from the Socialist International. No much may change if he gets to power.

>>671030

The Fourth international is all jews.

So yeah >>670708 was apparently the whole plan.

>Jesus this is even more pathetic than Turkey.

It's more and more obvious they're doing a Syria. They hope to start a civil war, to have an excuse to invade rather than just changing the government.

>>671048

>They hope to start a civil war

But why?

>>671063

By destabilizing the nation they give an excuse for "peacekeepers" to intercede and install a puppet government more friendly to whoever is orchestrating the coup. Same shit they did in Libya and Syria. Wouldn't doubt if Venezuela goes under we don't see Brazil start having issues.

>>671067

Guaido already is a puppet tho

>>671067

>Wouldn't doubt if Venezuela goes under we don't see Brazil start having issues

The current Brazilian administration, along with the entire right-wing in Brazil, is the most US-friendly government ever. Even bigger than the Cold War's military dictatorship, that had direct military support from the US.

Destabilizing Brazil would be a huge shot in the foot for the US, right now.

>>671079

>>671067

>>671063

It's scorched earth policy.

Venezuela, like Iraq, Syria or Libya (even arguably Ukraine, Georgia and Yugoslavia) are far too deep on the enemy side (Russia/China) to actually come back. The fact is the US has very little to offer to them, so any puppet can only be a short term solution, sooner or latter Russia/China will approaches with an offer they can't turn down and it will be back to square one.

So the next best option is area denial, you turn the area into a failed state. You don't get an ally you didn't need but you deny an ally the other side did wanted.

And it's a long term solution.

>>671084

Depends how failed you can keep the state.

>>671030

>Not sure this was posted before, but there are literal Cuban special forces operating in Venezuela

Probably, but also Marti is run by U.S. Glowniggers

What would happen to South America in the event of a US civil war?

>>671102

A lot of spics would be losing their heads over it.

>>671097

Even if you don't those are poor countries to begin with, the economical damage + brain drain alone is enough to get them out of your hair for (unrest + civil war + 10 to infinity years).

>>671104

I like how the west's immigration and asylum law is so loose they can make sure that brain drain is close to permanent. Still the places that it's been most effective where mostly tribal to begin with so that's why I'm overly dubious of the strategy, not even all the middle eastern shitholes in the region are tribal enough for that to be effective and these are the same countries that have suffered brain drain for years just due to economic pressures anyway.

>>671104

I suppose case and point being Syria with the Russians being able to secure an ally that only wobbled because of all the foreign intervention stacked against them in the first place. Then again I suppose the west has them by the shirt and curlies when it comes to money for rebuilding.

>>671150

>filename

heh

>>671150

One man's lunch is another man's road hazard.

>>670709

Juan Guaido. Theres really no argument for Maduro other than retarded trannypol memes about him and stupid right wing niggers who go along with it too.

>>671167

There is no argument for either tbh.

Juan Guaido is the classic liberal stooge, Maduro is the classic commie stooge.

>>671143

Syria main problem (and Iraq) was the risk of an actual anti-israel coalition profiteering of an oil barrel at $100 to have a growth in the double digits.

They could have seriously invest/reformed and, with the backing from Russia for military and China for industry and infrastructures they already had, rise to an Iran/Egypt level of development.

Instead they got a civil war in which both the coalition airstrikes and ISIS attacks have openly and mainly targeted the infrastructures (mainly water and electricity providing plants), crippling them long term, ensuring China/Iran/Russia have to focus on rebuilding the countries to a bare minimum rather than a similar amount of assistance be given to actively grow it.

I'm not saying it works 100%, just that it makes sense, worse case scenario you have a "return to 0", you're stuck again with an enemy country where you don't want it but it means that at the very least you gained time.

The US powers-that-be has stopped "building democracy", they realized that it's not what is so much easier.

Destroying countries is what they're good at.

>>671082

>Destabilizing Brazil would be a huge shot in the foot for the US, right now.

Have you seen our government? I'd be surprised if anyone in government knew where Brazil was without being shown on a map in a briefing. FFS a congressman though Haiti would flip over with the presence of US Navy personnel on the island providing humanitarian aid.

>>671172

That was an ancient congressnigger, and the island was Guam. You should really brush up on your geography before you call out anyone on theirs.

>>670873

Venezuela was already in deep shit when Chavez was in power. Maduro's little tin castle is only standing because our own domestic communist party (PT) tried their hardest to finance and supply the Venezuelan government with our money. This shit's been going since the day Foro de São Paulo (read: South American communist forum) was founded.

Now that (I hope) we're no longer paying for this decade-long mistake, Maduro's already in the bodybag.

>>671179

I thought all the socialist in brazil got caught red handed in some giant corruption scandal and all got BTFO and sent to prison which is why Bolsanaro won.

>>671181

That's the pipe dream, but there's only so much an elected president and his ministers can do. Our supreme court is kiked by eleven self-serving demons who think they can play god with our legislation, and they're the last major obstacle preventing a total crackdown of socialists around here. They protect them vehemently. Bolsonaro's victory made a good dent, but we still have to crack the shell. Commies did get BTFO, but they're still trying.

>>671177

You know full well Guaido's ascension would keep the same shit, except with venezuelan "rocket scientists" students going into US instead.

>>671185

No. Guaidos party, Popular Will, has its roots in being anti-Chavez liberals going back to 2003. And the founder of the party Leopold Lopez is a political prisoner. They started protesting against Chavez because they accurately predicted this shit show thats going on now.

>>671150

>when out of ammo just mario cart the putas

>>671168

The ideology doesn't matter, all this conflict boils down to is the US and China having a spat because Maduro is one of the only leaders in the western hemisphere that's friendly to China, it's just the great game playing out in Latin America instead of Central Asia. The Venezuelans would probably be better off under Guaido if only for the fact they could have investment and trade from places other than China and Russia.

>>671192

>>671211

Venezuela is fucked regardless of what happens.

What matters is their subhumans aren't spilled across the borders.

>>671213

They already have been since the rat BBQ started.

>>671215

Yes, I think this ultimately means shit unless americans start packing heat at the border.

Already 4 millions rapefugees fleeing from the glorious loving Venezuelan empire.

>>671216

>>671213

This is a whole different rabbit hole. First off, most of the refugees from the socialist utopia flee to neighboring countries like Brazil or Colombia

And more importantly, the reason Mexicans and other central americans flood into America is because their governments want them to. They get rid of a problem in the form of poor people, but also get remittances. Mexicos largest source of revenue, even surpassing oil exports, is remittance from America. And those migrant caravans from Hondorus was literally led through Mexico by people in the Hondorus government. This is what Trump has been talking about since his campaign in 2016 btw and its something that MSM just shrugged their shoulders at and pretended he was making stuff up when he was saying shit about how Mexico is ripping us off

https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/Honduras/remittances_percent_GDP/

>>671219

The right start war so the left can lead the niggers in.

It's not a new strategy.

Only way to fight is men at the border willing to defend it.

Blackwater is recruiting with eyes on Venezuela.

https://www.rtp.pt/noticias/mundo/eua-mercenarios-para-combaterem-ao-servico-de-guaido-procuram-se_n1144576

>>671220

>The right

Name one thing american "conservatives" preserve

>>671287

The right to finance Israel.

>>671274

This administration and everyone on the periphery of it is beyond embarrassing.

>>671287

They preserve whatever growth in power bureaucrats gain.

>>671287

The liberal foundation of America

What will Russia do when Venezuela falls like Syria and troops are marching down on Iran?

>>671315

Try using freedom of association and deny your service to negroes, jews, or mestizos (^:

>>671213

No, what matters is ZOG is denied Venezuelan oil reserves. That is literally the only thing of worth in Venezuela and the only reason why anyone gives a single solitary shit about what happens there.

>>671350

AR-FiveSeven with an emptied AR-15 magazine being used as a brass catcher.

>although he has a poor choice of color for a face mask

>>671350

This is without a doubt the ugliest AR I have ever seen

>>671350

I thought it was photoshop for a second. How the hell did they get an AR-57? I doubt a US company could sell their weapons to Venezuela, and I doubt this dude bought it himself. Did a rich benefactor buy it for the rebels?

>>671356

The CIA has a bad habit of using all kinds of rare, expensive and American-made hardware for their "untraceable" foreign aid.

>>671150

Banana clips, nice.

>>670938

fucking faggots. i didn't know jew world order supporters came on /k/. they should be attacking guaido and his pimps.

>>671366

It's not rare nor expensive, they're more affordable than the actual P90S, but it's still retarded.

>>671366

Mall ninjas buying guns for their rebels?

>>671368

>1 person = 500,000 migrants

>life of one person is equal to lives of half a million migrant humanoids

Alright, that's not a bad deal, I say we take it. For each person that dies due to migrant crime, half a million migrants will be executed.

>>671177

>Also, NO ONE likes this faggot and all of the Americas, from Canada to Brazil to Chile to Mexico all hate him.

Wrong, Obrador invited him to his presidential inauguration, though almost everyone in the Chamber booed maduro (except fucking Noroña).

We're on fast track to become an extremely weird mix between Venezuelan populism and the spic version of the Russian Shill army.

>>671401

What the fuck is going on in Mexico? When are the UNS going to finally come back into bean politics?

Bloodshed doko?

>>671374

I guess the CIA is full of mallninjas now? I'm pretty sure they could've sent the shit load of M16s we have in the armory that no one uses anymore.

>>671356

>>671366

>>671371

>>671374

>>671413

Two words:

Fast.

Furious.

>>671418

Fair enough, I didn't consider that.

>>671415

Good post. It would certainly be fun but do you think the war would last long enough for us to even get there? How do we take our weapons there?

>>671370

If you want to go to strange places and shoot brown people, the only groups accepting foreigners are usually the globohomo types.

>>671370

You see them even ITT. They see the word "communist" and immediately get up in arms, not seeing the bigger picture at play. Sure, Maduro is a commie, it's why Venezuela is in deep shit after all, but it's prefferable for Venezuela to stay a third world shithole where natives starve to death (something that Maduro will undoubtedly ensure) than for it to become an oil reserve for ZOG. The more oil US has control of, the more it can affect worldwide oil market, and thus try bankrupting its opponents (namely Russia and Iran) through it, as it attempted to do before. Any scenario preventing this is prefferable, including one where a commie genocides his people through sheer incompetence.

>>671558

>good take

Yeah, the less "safe for business" a country is and the more countries are like that makes it difficult for globohomo to spread its tentacles further.

>>670709

Either shitty commie state or obedient American dog. East Germany is significantly less fucked than West Germany, so the commie has my vote

>>671625

Surprise, surprise, Guaido is a commie too.

So there's not much choice there.

>>671658

Pretty much.

>>671406

Just mexicans being mexicans, chugging the leftist kool aid, as always.

>>671658

CIA in 1950: hehe we're going to use all this pomo and culture war shit to castrate leftism

CIA in 2019: lmao nuke russia because they're not gay enough

>>671669

Can't wait to start blowi- i mean looking at federal buildings and migrant work camps when things start to get awry here in the aryan north.

>>671696

Hoisted by their own petard tbh

>>671731

>cheaper resources through acquisition

>in the age of global economy

Do you have no idea how modern economy works? It's not the fucking middle ages where resource supply generated by the country is what determines the local prices; american consumer is directly competing with basically every other consumer in the world, and if someone outside US offers a better price for the oil than amerilards, then that someone is gonna get that oil. Hell, USA is already EXPORTING more oil than it is IMPORTING. It doesn't have some sort of supply shortage driving the prices up. For gas prices in the US to drop, prices EVERYWHERE in the world would need to drop. Some rich kike in the US is going to make bank from Venezuelan oil and then sell it to the exact same places as Venezuela does now, India and China. All that will change is the profits will go to kikes instead of spics.

Honest to God, spent like a minute trying to figure out how the hell you reached the conclusion that "US company drilling oil = cheaper oil for US households" before realising US education is this fucking bad.

>>671734

Nah bro, I've spoken with folks. Oil is hurting hard as-is, all it would do is move onshore rigs from Wyoming/North Dakota/Texas down to Venezuela since Venezuelans would do the job for a tenth of the price. You have to keep in mind that we're sitting on a shit ton of oil right now (we haven't even started to hit the 50,000 feet wells in the Bakken because it's not worth our time right now since oil isn't worth enough to justify it), it's just not financially viable to get at it BECAUSE there aren't enough customers world wide willing to PAY that price in the first place. Venezuelan oil would quite literally translate into cheaper oil for everyone. There will not be another oil boom. At least not for the next two decades anyways.>>671734

>>>671734

>Nah bro, I've spoken with folks. Oil is hurting hard as-is, all it would do is move onshore rigs from Wyoming/North Dakota/Texas down to Venezuela since Venezuelans would do the job for a tenth of the price. You have to keep in mind that we're sitting on a shit ton of oil right now (we haven't even started to hit the 50,000 feet wells in the Bakken because it's not worth our time right now since oil isn't worth enough to justify it), it's just not financially viable to get at it BECAUSE there aren't enough customers world wide willing to PAY that price in the first place. Venezuelan oil would quite literally translate into cheaper oil for everyone. There will not be another oil boom. At least not for the next two decades anyways.

>>671735

This is what I get for posting from a hotel.

>>671739

Perhaps that first statement is a little harsh. Venezuela is producing oil, but under the nationalized oilfields, they've failed to keep up with demands and have not expanded their rigging operations at all over the last decade or so, unlike the rest of the world, and they're still using processes that are an ecological disaster despite cheaper, more environmentally safe methods existing. You know how they have blackouts because they didn't keep up with energy demand? It's basically the same thing with oil which is why their economy collapsed in the first place. Communists being communist niggers.

>>671737

>But migrant caravans are coming from Central America, not fucking Venezuela.

No caravans specifically from Venezuela yet, but millions already fled from Venezuela to central american countries.

It all trickles down to the US of A.

>>671739

>>671741

their main refinery has also been crippled since 2012, coincidentally when oil prices were hitting high

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraguan%C3%A1_Refinery_Complex#2012_explosion

>>671739

>Oil drilling in Venezuela has remained stagnant and has not grown to match demand over the last decade or so.

Which is irrelevant because, again, OPEC. OPEC determines oil exports and if venezuela is incapable of producing more, others will. If it produces more, others will produce less. It has done so before, it does so now, it will do so in the future as it is its sole reason for existence.

>If Venezuela is a decent place to live, it's much closer to home and much closer to their natural environment culturally.

Right, this is the exact same argument EU uses for why eropean countries should keep funneling money into Africa. Go fuck yourself. The solution to migration is armed border patrols that are ordered to shoot on sight, not literally bribing spics to go elsewhere you massive cuckold.

>but for people like me who just want to be able to afford to eat real food and live in the countryside

Yes, dumb goyim like you that will cheer as their race and nation die around them so long as they have some cheap beef full of hormones on the table and niggerball on the telly.

>>671745

1) Oil is not an unlimited resource which you're very heavily implying with your post. The only reason gas hasn't hit $20/gallon is because we're really good at drilling deeper wells and finding new methods of forcing unprofitable oil out of the ground in such a way that it turns a profit (basically the entire fracking industry).

2) Europe's solution is to funnel money into pseudo-warlord governments and "aid" that destroys local businesses in Africa. I never even implied that. I implied letting Venezuela make money and become rich on its own, maybe with nudges (very slight ones) here or there. Believe it or not the very few African countries that aren't socialist shit holes or war zones tend to do pretty well for themselves all things considered. Again, you're talking shitty NEETSoc talking points that have made a butterfly effect out of real problems to drive an agenda instead of getting to the roots of the issue. Don't be a retard about this, dude. Get your noggin joggin'.

>>671784

>Oil is not an unlimited resource which you're very heavily implying with your post.

There is enough oil in the world that there won't be a shortage of it in the foreseeable future.

>I implied letting Venezuela make money and become rich on its own, maybe with nudges (very slight ones) here or there.

Because that's working out splendidly for everyone else in the region and central america spics yearn to move to Peru instead of the US, right?

>Believe it or not the very few African countries that aren't socialist shit holes or war zones tend to do pretty well for themselves all things considered

Yet even from those, rapefugees stream into Europe. Unless venezuela suddenly becomes US-tier, migrants will keep on coming. Besides, you are forgetting the fact that southern US is so full of spics that it's not really culturally foreign to central american migrants anyway, and that the bulk of migrants, which are from Mexico, certainly have it closer to the US border than fucking Venezuela.

>getting to the roots of the issue

The root of the fucking issue is that US is trying to spread its cancerous hegemony to yet another state, whose resources it intends to use to further globalization and destruction of the white race. And no, I don't care how many times you call me NEETSoc, it still won't make this fact any less true.

Let me ask you this, burger: Your government had been the world's only superpower for a few decades, has been the world's economic centre for even longer than that, has the largest army in the world by far, and has had the world laid bare before its feet. Yet despite all those things, the lives of average americans are fucking SHIT, there is massive poverty and crime compared to other, much weaker (in every sense) countries, and the often heard sentiment is that things are only going to get even more shit with time. So tell me, why do you keep thinking that this government has you interests at heart? Why do you keep supporting it? Why do you think that THIS TIME you will totally reap the benefits, when you never did any of the times prior when neocons got their way?

>>671784

If oil was anywhere near as limited as you're intimating, serious and concrete steps would be taken to radically reduce consumption. The entire American automotive industry wouldn't be near-exclusively centered around pickup trucks that haul a piece of furniture a few times a year.

>>671797

There's enough oil to last us a century, probably more. It's not a concern you'd need to calculate with; the whole scarcity meme is only pushed for further "green" lobbying

>>671788

This story Czechs out.

>>671788

>move to Peru instead of the US, right?

Actually yes, well i don't know about central Americans, but most Venezuelans move to other SA countries, unless they're rich and can get a US visa and flight there.

>Unless Venezuela suddenly becomes US-tier, migrants will keep on coming

Bullshit, we're not seeing caravans of say Colombians or Chileans leaving their countries to invade the US, why? because those countries might be shit in comparison with the first world but they're good enough to live in for the people already there, just like Venezuela was before this whole debacle. So yes, sometimes it's better to solve the root of the problem instead of dealing with the consequences. Africa's irrelevant, Africa has always been a shithole so the solution is as you say to close the borders.

>>671936

>Frenchanon was right, Guaido really was retarded enough to think the mob would do the coup for him.

Yeah that was fucking retarded.

>But I don't know of, say, people from Honduras opting to go to south America instead of the US, which is the argument that the burger made – that spics from all over would go to Venezuela because it becoming an American protectorate would suddenly turn it into a first world country that's great to live in etc

Well yeah you're right they probably won't leave for other latin countries if they can get to the US, my point is that there are several countries that have the potential to be ok to live in and therefore eliminate the migrant problem from them, not all countries though, but some.

>They won't. Venezuela, prior to its collapse, was given as an example of a great country, proof that socialism works, etc. yet spics still went to the US.

Venezuela did get significant migration before 90s and prior from other latin countries, but of course if you're in CA and Mexico you might as well go up north.

>As for why Chileans aren't walking to US, it's because it's too fucking far for them. If they bordered US, you can bet your ass they'd be migrating there like there's no tommorow.

Doubt it, Chile is quite developed, they have little reason to migrate, i mean sure if the border was right there you'd see some people trying to cross, but not many at all.

>Morocco isn't that shit a place, yet you see millions of moroccans living all over europe

It's not surprising considering the suicidal altruism of european countries, but imagine how worse it could be.

My point is that 20 years ago you didn't have a quarter of the country trying to flee from it >>671368 , perhaps it's better to solve somehow the situation so they like 20 years ago are happy to remain in their country, in some cases i think that would be easier and cheaper in the long term, of course in others niggers that has been the attempt since decades ago and it has failed utterly.

>hurr if there countries were better they wouldn't come to the US

Daily reminder that none of this would happen if the US can protect their borders.

But they don't.

>>671737

>Venezuela is already exporting that fucking oil and has been doing so for decades. It's a fucking OPEC member, for christ's sake. It's not sitting on untapped wealth of oil all packed and ready to ruin oil prices world-wide; the world oil supply will remain roughly the same.

First Venezuela isn't a OPEC member… it's the founder. But that was a much different time, the time were Venezuela had the best economy on the continent and was close to the living standards of the US/Canada. Since then socialism happened.

And the situation is actually way worse than he said.

Venezuela oil production has reached levels where it's payable exports are close to null.

Venezuela is completely out of light oil (which they already didn't have much of) all they had left was heavy oil.

Heavy oil is complex to extract and must be mixed with light oil to do so.

Except that Chavez and Maduro used the company as a piggy bank, since all the profit, after the commies leader cuts, went to socialists boondoggle.

Add the fact they purged the industry and replace almost every manager at all levels by party fanatics that have no clue of what they're doing (and add even layers of cronyism) which lead to the production has been declining at an alarming rate.

Which lead to overproducing in the parts that were working and under-investing since there was no money left.

Overproduction lead to damaging reservoirs, under-investment lead to critical shortages and breaking.

Which lead to abusing the reservoirs that were on tap even more… which lead to decline in production, etc…

Add the light oil thing,the fact that you have to import oil to make oil, for which you need non-Monopoly money to buy.

Which has left the once BEST oil company in the fucking world in tatters.

And worst has done actual long term damage that just aren't gonna fix themselves anytime soon, whether they string Maduro to a lamppost or not.

What little they produce they owe to China locked in a barter system for parts from Conoco, repayment of debts to china, etc…

>>671980

>repayment of debts to china,

>not defaulting on the debts

would chinks even be able to press that casus belli?

>>671983

>In other words, couping Venezuela is not oging to make gas cheapes.

It's not so much about making the oil price cheaper like the other anon thinks but controlling the distribution of oil to the world and your enemies.

>>672048

>but controlling the distribution of oil to the world and your enemies.

I agree. And I definitely do not want the US to control even more of world's oil distribution.

>>671954

CIA niggers are preferable to absolutely nothing.

Stalinist gulags are vastly preferable to the Globohomo/Nigger/Kebab/Tranny New World Order.

>>671983

>If Venezuelan oil production really had a major impact on the global price of oil, we should see a steady increase in oil price from 2014 onwards, as Venezuelan production decreases.

No, it doesn't work like that.

Oil isn't magically teleporting from A to B.

It's extracted (produced), shipped, transformed, shipped around again & then stockpiled near customers.

The result of this is there is a serious time delay between the time the market react to a production increase/decrease as the market price is evaluating how much oil is available in the ready to sell.

Oil glut/peaks happens depending the amount of oil available in the depots, something as simple as building more storage can make the price rise, and not how much is produced. Which is why oil is so volatile. The big oil depot/train fire in Canada make a market boom bigger than than holes in Venezuela production, because that was oil ready to sell (or already sold).

The influence of production on pricing is that it sets the trends rather than the price.

>>672047

Technical assistance from Conoco (which itself has ceased actual operations in country, like Exxon, Gazprom, etc… years ago. Due to socialist BS… yeah) is the only thing allowing them to keep the industry running at all.

Also you really think the jews in DC like countries that default on their debts, whether they own them or not? That's the one thing that will never be tolerated.

>>672078

>The result of this is there is a serious time delay between the time the market react to a production increase/decrease

A delay of five years? Come on now. By the way, the drop in 2015 you see on the first chart marked a moment when oil was at its cheapest since recession and was caused by strong petrodollar and, you guessed it, OPEC. All of this led to cheaper oil regadless of Venezuela producing less of it. Global price of oil will not drop because of Venezuela producing more of it; it is volatile chiefly because of political decisions, value of petrodollar, and whatever OPEC decides to do. Once again, you do not need to look further into the past than 2014 to see that even when Venezuela produced shitloads, it did not lower global price of oil.

>>672144

It's kinda hilarious that roach soldiers were less brutal than the civie roaches.

>>672189

vae victis, as they say

So nothing happened?

>>672201

Basically.

>>672189

Soviet soldiers were also prone to raping men. There were a few American pilots that were arrested and tried Swiss court, then sent into the same prisons that housed soviets. Every one of those were brutally raped to the point of intestines falling out. I don't know how or where, but Soviets were possibly the most degenerate soldiers in history.

>>672220

It still happens nowadays, ruskies follow roman laws.

If you fuck men, you ain't gay, only if you get fucked by men (or women), that's gay.

>>672189

the mongol hordes did what a human would expect from those subhuman animals. The real criminals are the mutts and the (((anglos))) who supported them.

>>672189

>Invades Russia.

>*Baww*, why are locals so mean to us?

Exactly what else did they expect?

Invading Russia is always the same story, it was for Charles XII, it was for Napoleon, it was for Hitler.

The problem is not defeating the Russian government, that part isn't worse than any other government, the problem is that you're fighting that terrible land itself and the just as terrible people that lives on that dreadful land (and their bonded hordes).

>>672231

Tell that to the mongols.

The problem with invading Russia is that it should be done in both the East and the West.

>>672233

>Tell that to the hordes.

After the initial invasion all the hordes, little by little, ended up in Russian bondage, that's literally how the built their country. Most of the time in a weird reversal of suzerain/tributary, with Khans still ruling their hordes except with the Tsar as Khagan. Those that didn't like it were mercilessly exterminated.

Even today Mongolia is independent only on paper.

What does that tells you about Russians?

>>672237

That they become mongoloid?

This is why it's hard to trust muscovites bastard.

>>672238

>That they become mongoloid?

Pretty much, they adopted mongol culture when it came to "efficiency of violence", if not the lifestyle entirely (Cossacks hordes are… east slavs living like old school mongols did).

And at the same time mongols unity disappeared in internal struggles (some became muslims, some role played as chinks, etc…), the new mongol empire, Russia, swallowed them.

>>672237

>>672237

>What does that tells you about Russians?

Subhumans who have lost all traces of Euro blood.

>>672144

that's why they want the EU army.

>>672283

>winner

come on now Hans

>>672283

Every time a Russian is killed or maimed, victims of terrorism, massacres, atrocities, we should not care. We should remember Prussia and the atrocities they committed upon our race. We should hope the Chechens kill at least 10 million of them by the time its all over.

>>672244

That's the opposite.

European one advantage over all other people has always been organized warfare and ruthlessness.

The Romans once put a cross every 30m on a stretch of 200km of road.

With someone rotting on it, you could smell the thing from most of the latium & campania.

The spaniards in their conquest of south america, did the same kind of shit.

The french and british did the same.

The US colonists did the same.

Etc…

The problem is we become so good at it, we periodically fall into great periods of complacency.

But make no mistake eradicating entire peoples and making gruesome displays to terrify others is very much an European trait.

>>672375

I don't think the europeans need to learn from mongols to be violent.

The problem with modern european is their shying away from violence for whatever reasons.

>>672360

Ok did the cockroach vol lose a bet or something? For some cunt always LARPing about nationalist genocidal conquests, an awful lot of (((anglo))) boomerposts seem to be let through.

>>672381

More LARP. Great.

>cant even bring self not to insult national war heroes

>muh bloodlusting rage

What we need right now is a mass self eugenics program.

>>672389

Greek vol isn't as active as he used to be.

>>672393

>chinks need 247k shekels income to date roasties

>female bugs prefer huwhite with less money

Lel, this shit never fails to entertain and cause butthurt.

>>672396

I know it is a stupid study and not true at all, before any of you sperg or actually believes that to be the case

>>672378

>for whatever reasons.

It's not "whatever reasons". We're terrified… of ourselves.

The major powers of Europe (France, UK, the US and Russia) can literally wipe out most of any country population with a fucking text message.

And that paralyzing though, leads to almost complete passivity.

>>672439

India, China also have that power and yet they still want to expand themselves.

>>672441

No they don't.

China ICBM can barely reach the US east coast.

India doesn't have any (and what they have probably doesn't work).

>>672445

Uh, they don't need to reach the US to damage any country.

They can nuke the rest of Asia.

>>670679

has anybody else noticed just how similar Juan Guaido looks to Osama Bin Laden (aka CIA asset Tim Osman)?

>>673166

All the missile we know for sure are in service are DF-31 variants and their specs are complete bullshit.

First they fire them only over china because they don't have many satellites tracking stations and ships, meaning the actual demonstrated range is 1.800 miles (either in the china sea or over china in the gobi desert), the rest is pure extrapolation.

For example no one has ever explain how the fuck the DF-41 which is, at best, 25% bigger than a Topol (and as big as a Yars) is supposed to be twice as heavy, go 25% faster and have 50% more range, despite being bootlegged soviet tech…

And the Russian tests are typically 3500 miles for warheads to 4500 miles for missiles (so you know the extrapolation is fairly accurate since they typically fire from Plesetsk to the Bering sea… which is the distance Plesetsk/Washington).

The rest I won't even mention as it's honestly extremely dubious they can even be used.

For example DF-5 missiles are silo fired, liquid fueled missiles that are stored in two parts for their insane retaliation three-card monte scheme that completely underestimated the quality of observation satellites. Everyone knows which silos are the good ones, meaning those thing will NEVER be launched as their launch pad will be hit long before they towed that shit from under it's mountain, assemble them, do the system checks and finally fire…

So… Vlad won for now?

>>673166

DF31A is vaporware and doesn't exist, CSS4 they've only got about 15 missiles which the defenses can handle. So yeah they can basically only nuke California with any kind of strategically meaningful arsenal.

Look at the size of the missiles in your pic, does that make any kind of sense?