/k/ - Weapons

Have you done any basic research on how much explosive power he had at all? He had 5000 lbs of Ammonium Nitrate and fuel oil. That's two and a half tons of boom.

McVeigh was one of the only guys of his time to not half ass a bombing. It wasn't some shitty Toyota hilux filled with a few bags of compost in the bed. it was a 5000 pound shaped charge

>>663342

>all the floors had the same grade of damage. If the IED was laying on the ground, roof floors would have less damage than the bottom

Maybe you should lay off the Minecraft. In real life gravity affects buildings too, and if the walls and columns holding up a floor get blown the fuck up, what do you think will happen to that floor?

>>663353

You literaly just answered your own question.

>>663353

Look dude, forget about the fucking propane for a minute. He had ==FIVE THOUSAND POUNDS== of boom-boom high explosive fairy dust. The propane's not even a factor here.

>>663358

It's a modern element structure as well so it's not overbuilt to the extent that a lot of older buildings are.

where was van and which direction was it pointed?

anyone got a good diagram of all that including how his bomb was constructed??? :) For "historical purposes only" of course. :)

Anyways, McVeigh was at least "shepherded" by the Jewish ACLU.

Some guy ran for AG of Alabama on the promise that he'd investigate the ACLU/McVeigh connection, that the Fed Govt seemed so shy of, but he lost a fairly close election.

Blast seem about right with lower floors gone a little deeper.

Some buildings will constructed with part of the building weaker and lighter, and easier to remodel, and some more "get in concrete" for strength, so that might be the rectangle U-shape we are looking at. It would make sense the "easy to remodel" part would be front and center facing the street.

Obama's SCOTUS pick that didn't make it was the Jew who fast-tracked McVeigh's execution. No one wanted him to start thinking for himself and having a change of heart about who may have helped him, even without his knowing he was being helped.

I heard he got cut from some Special Forces due to blisters, etc, but did he really have the skills to make such a bomb himself?

>>663385

>That’s what a lot of people think. But Rudolph is such a loner that we strongly believed he simply wouldn’t have trusted anybody. He had access to news; he had newspaper articles in his camp. He knew he was being pursued. I don’t think he would have made himself vulnerable to being compromised or betrayed by letting anyone know where he was.

The locals helped him all throughout his run from the law. Mountain people have plenty of reasons to hate the Government.

t. Mountain anon.

>>663396

in his autobiography he talks about how he didn't trust the locals, especially after the gov put a million dollar bounty on his head

Yeah, this was real. If it were a false flag it would have been a spook-run anti-government militia based in the South/Northwest that would have then went on a shooting spree with AR15s and pre-ban open bolt semi-autos modified to be full-auto. McVeigh fed the feds the same shit they were dumping on innocent civilians during the time: political terrorism.

For reference, during this time the government was starting to get to Turner Diaries levels of faggotry in a relatively short timeframe: along with the atrocities of Waco and Ruby Ridge, they were very active about sending federal infiltrators into right-wing political organizations and militias, who would encourage everyone to get on board with a plan to commit violence against the government, then wait for the SWAT team to burst in (this practice still goes on today, but with a less public attention given to the operations). Just a reminder to not join any current year groups, and if you are in one, GTFO now, especially if anyone suggests violence. Peaceful activism with nationalist bakesales is the answer, violence belongs in Minecraft.

>>663402

>in his autobiography

Sure, because he'd definitely expose anyone who helped him and let them get buttfucked in prison beside him.

It's probably true (I certainly wouldn't trust anyone if my head had that many zeros on it) but his statements are hardly proof because he'd say that either way.

Maybe the upper floors rest on support pillars that are no longer there?

Energetics fag here, this is why it was so effective.

>tons of high explosives, not something flammable but detonating HE

>he got close enough that the blast wave lifted the lower floors off their support pillars

>concrete is weak in tension so failed

>floors fall back down

>crush the busted supports

>everything above those supports isn't supported

There is nothing special going on here, he made a big bomb and it did what big bombs do. Being ANFO actually made it more effective than a military HE of the same weight because of the lower V-det and high RE-factor making it perfect for concrete destruction.

>>663496

A jew shilling.

9/11 is a false flag therefore every attack against the enemy is a false flag.

>>663544

Its also unstable if I recall. Mining companies use it for sounding and they tend to mix it onsite.

>>663545

>Mining companies use it for sounding

I hate gays.

>>663353

Ammonium Nitrate can be set off electrically and Nitrogen is unstable enough that it needs very little oxygen to keep up its reaction as opposed to Propane that can suffocate itself if it can't pull enough oxygen from its environment.

>>663533

ANFO has a pretty low RE factor, .42 I believe. Whereas c4 has a REF of 1.34. You aren’t wrong though, a low RE factor produces a pushing, shattering detonation versus a high velocity cutting det (c4/PETN) that’s why ammonium nitrate and dynamite (.92) are used for cratering charges and ditching.

>>663583

The neutron bomb was also a failure because it did more damage than what he said should have happened so I think its safe to say he isn't very well versed in his bomb crafting.

>>666721

>everyone trying to do something is a spook

>government is omnipotent and omnipresent, literal gods

>therefore if anything bad happens to governments they did it as a false flag to make themselves more omnipotent.

>>663342

It was a false flag. They needed to remove some important files from the okc building to cover their criminal tracks just like 9-11 at the Pentagon.

>>666883

>needed to remove some important files from the okc building

Because if you're a corrupt cabal with access to the highest levels of government the easiest way to destroy documents is to stage an unprecedented attack on a random federal building. You couldn't, I don't know, send one of your flunkies to look at the files using his legitimate access and just smuggle the damn things out in his underwear or anything.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Berger#Unauthorized_removal_and_destruction_of_classified_material

>>666889

No, they needed the distraction as well as to get rid of McVeigh. They get off on thinking they're untouchable. Then there's that one cop Terry yeark or something that also brings up more questions and adds to this. It's been a while since one has researched this. However, if you want to stay ignorant, then be my guest.

>>666900

At this point, I'm damn tired of the whole every action is a false flag bullshit. Either provide proof or drop the cryptic bullshit.

>>666907

The CIA already admitted to controlling the narrative on the news in like 1975. How any story told to you can have a modicum of truth is absurd. The weather girl is the only one you can trust. No matter what one says, you're still going to whine about proof. Nothing one said was 'cryptic' and it's insulting that you would call one a cryptojew. Project much? As old as this event was, you'd think most of y'all would've done research into this long ago. There are search engines by the way, such as searching.me . Just stop responding, if that's going to be your only statement, "Where da proofs?" Prove to me you're not a kike by saying Jesus Christ is your Lord and savior or just spell God.

>>666925

Searx.me*

>>666925

So where is the proof though?

>>663350

mcveigh is a real hero,the fbi were imprisoning thousands of innocent white males at the time, to set the stage for cucks later that we see now. all the tv hacks love the fbi. all the NW morons love the fbi. all the retards love the fbi. all the faggots love the fbi. all the middle class love the fbi. this will never happen again. the only good guy at that league was Paddock at the mandalay bay

also, the fbi wanted a new building.

>>667005

This must be a mudshit. There's no way that huge, old temple burned down all on its own…

>>667005

I don't celebrate that Notre Dam burns, in fact it deeply hurts me, she was built by men with aspiration to make the most beautiful building in praise of God. Despite this, I feel it's far better she burns than she continues to be whored out to countless millions of faithless golems and lesser men by the corrupted church.

How did we even get to this point

I'm fucking tired of everything guys, I really am

He should have targeted BATFE headquarters instead of some building in Oklahoma.

Other than that, do it again TIMMY!

>>667010

It's muslims, then. Why am I not surprised?

>letting infidels touching Gods holy house

>>667013

Have you seen what the pope has done in recent years?

>>667007

They already skipped the investigation part and called it an accident.

of course it was mudshit arson.

>>667010

>>667007

>>667016

Imagine being this paranoid all the time. Spend a little more time outside and a little less on /pol/.

>>667018

>retard with literal 0 life experience when it comes to living with muslims thinks he gets to call others paranoid

It's obviously a retaliation attack for NZ. If your only experience with mudslimes wasn't media propaganda and americanized shitskins then you would know it. Gypsies, muslims and albanians are all roughly the same. Subhumans who hate everything European and will steal or destroy everything we hold dear. Chances are when I was beating up albanians and gypsies in the streets you were still in middle school learning about the holocaust.

>>667021

Ah yes, the resident Greek psychopath, content to live in his own fantasy world. When's Golden Dawn going to kick out the shitskins? Any day now no doubt. Have you finished paying debts?

>>667020

>masterpiece of architecture that took centuries to make

>lol burn it they worship god wrong

>>667021

You need the fire to end and police/insurance guys/fire department to investigate and find the cause because you need to find out if it's been done on purpose by owner, if it was a result of arson, or happened by an accident.

Imagine if stumbling on a dead body would immediately lead to "lol natural causes, a hobo xD" verdict with no attempts at autopsy or identification.

>>667023

reported

>>667029

>reported

I'm not deleting his post, it will only lead to more niggers finding an excuse to whine about my alleged powertrip

Tim was being shepherded/supported by SPLC.

Good Old Boy ran for AG of Alabama on promise to investigate SPLC on those grounds, but I guess the voters were more concerned with….?

>>667057

You are not better than us, yet you are acting as such…

>>667028

>>667026

Better a leaf a than a cryptoturk with a bloodlust. But go on being /pol/'s lapdog, they'll let you kill anyone you want, as long as it's for the Greater Good.

>>667032

Thank you, the whole point of 8chan was to get away from censorship. Without dissenting voices this would be reduced to an echochamber.

>>667061

To be honest, Catholicism started to be fucked up with the start of Humanism. Protestantism was merely the result of a general decline of Christian morality. Consequently, new sects rised up, preaching a return to the "old ways", predetermined salvation revealed by material rewards here on Earth and such.

>>667018

Ain't even gonna lie, you probably live in a gated community with token minorities around you. Go hang out with the streetshitters or chinks outside it, they'll probably leave you for dead in a gutter and with 100:1 odds given who left you for dead your death won't even be a blurb in one of the soviet-tier newspapers that aren't even fit enough to wipe my ass with that float around.

>>667007

>This must be a mudshit

Nah, it's just some retard fucking up. If it were a mudshit, you can bet he'd be bragging about it 24/7.

>>667082

>following the Bible leads to giving money to Israel, because that will somehow bring the end of the world when all jews convert to christianity.

Give me the verse where it says to do that.

>all protestants are evangelicals

Nice meme.

>>667239

Revenge for Waco.

>>667260

Who cares anyway? Doesn't seem like the actual french cares.

France seems dead to me.

>>667262

>>667263

Not that I'm broken by this event. France deserves this for forcing the treaty of Trianon on us.

>>667275

I guess you are right. Muslims have to be exterminated, alongside with Jews.

>>667020

At least they don't let women rule as bishops. You do realize that England and Europe both have a Muslim problem and both have subversive politicians using them to replace you with cheap labor.

>>667284

Anglicans are Catholics but with the royalty being the head of the Church instead of the Pope. I'd actually like their system of the king embodying both sacral and temporal power if wouldn't be for the fact that their form of constitutional monarchy means the monarch being almost powerless (politically speaking) and as you said, they let a woman to be their head of the church.

>>667081

I've seen the shit that's happening to Canada, and it sickens me. Still, I have no desire for scapegoating or genocide.

>>667287

>t. cuck

>>667284

>anglican catholic church

>protestant

>>667287

>Still, I have no desire for scapegoating or genocide.

Imagine being such a pussy

>>667054

Notice how the nigger doesn't have her father at her wedding.

>>667291

Typical fatherless nigger being typical. Nothing to see here, move along.

>>667289

It is a mixture of Catholicism and Protestantism.

>>667260

They are actually claiming that muslims being happy about this is fake news.

>>667308

Are there any people actually and legitimately retarded enough to believe it?

>>667316

The answer depends on how strict your criteria for "humanity" are.

>>667316

Try reading comment sections under MSM news articles. When they mention they saw celebrating muslims all over goybook, some shill quickly comes to remind them of le ebil nazis celebrating new zealand shooting and drowned migrants, at which point the doubters go into virtue signalling overdrive as they shout "BOTH SIDES" at the top of their lungs. As for the shills, I don't think they're actually even paid. They're just full blown neo-marxists on a mission to correct any wrong think.

>>667316

You just wait, I'm sure someone will suggest to rebuild it as a mosque. Or if not that, then as some kind of a homosex place to "foster better relationship between religions".

>>667305

Anglicans are basically catholics without the Roman part.

Hello feds reading this

Get fucked

>>667326

They already do on twitter.

Now the Catholic know how much of the Gallian Celts felt when they watched their sacred temples and shrines get burned or demolished to make room for Abrahamic places of worship.

Oh and the Catholic Church bribed plenty of pagan lords to "convert" and then implemented doctrines that banned the teaching of writing systems to commoners especially Futhark of any sort, that banned herbalism for commoners, and that banned public bathing. Many pagan writings were burned while others survived through oral-memory tradition and superficial Christian nobility keeping the stories and concepts alive.

If something new is built, let it be a museum or a library. Or let it be a tribute to the various European gods, ancestors, and familial rebirth regardless of one's personal religious views.

>>667415

In this period, they are going to be a mosque and a synagogue over it.

Good riddance, nothing will change unless white men wake up.

>>667343

Glownigger

>>667415

>public nudity

>good

Spotted the weeaboo.

>>667459

Goddamn nudity was one of the many good things about the greek, cunt.

>>667463

Only males were allowed to walk around in the nude, you communist gook.

>>667466

That sounds gay as fuck.

>>667415

>muh ancient pagans :'(

>fuck centuries and culture and accomplishments, back when our people worshipped trees and had tech barely surpassing subsaharan niggers, that's when we reached our peak

>we must forever aspire to be like them, sacrifice livestock like muslims and shit our pants whenever a lightning strikes

>NOW REBUILD THIS 14TH CENTURY CATHEDRAL SO THAT IT HONORS ALL RELIGIONS, ESPECIALLY SAVAGE CULTS!

I can't stand the retardation of you LARPagans, and I'm not even Christian.

>>667471

You sound like a crypto-christian to me, cuck, what use is that big temple if not for honoring your ancestors?

>>fuck centuries and culture and accomplishments, back when our people worshipped trees and had tech barely surpassing subsaharan niggers, that's when we reached our peak

All of Europe's tech is based upon Roman tech, which is pagan, as well as Chinese tech, which is pagan as well.

The motherfucking desert jews didn't leave any guns for the goyim.

>>667054

>Northern Ireland

>Anglican

>Not superior Presbyterian

Imagine being this retarded.

>>667472

>All of Europe's tech is based upon Roman tech

Some tech, not all. Besides, this argument is a fallacy. All tech is based on some cavemen figuring out that if they mash two stones together, they can get one to be sharp. Should we all aspire to be cavemen now? Ridiculous.

>which is pagan

Uh-huh, I mean is we discount the later centuries when Romans coverted on Christianity and if we lower our IQ enough to consider paganry an unified religion, and forget the fact celtic paganism had nothing to do with Roman paganism, then sure, we can accept that argument

>what use is that big temple if not for honoring your ancestors?

<honor your ancestors

<by spitting on millenia of your ancestors because they were crypto-jews :^^^)

>>667329

Exactly. If you're going to be religious which I wouldn't necessarily advocate but whatever, you should be going as fundamental to the underlying beliefs and scripture as is practical. Once you start slapping on pointless ceremonies, hierarchies and payments all you have is a cult designed for profit and power. Are you that one NI fag who was on /v/ a while back?

>>667474

>Some tech, not all. Besides, this argument is a fallacy. All tech is based on some cavemen figuring out that if they mash two stones together, they can get one to be sharp. Should we all aspire to be cavemen now? Ridiculous.

So thus technology is based upon mere interaction, so no one should be credited for any invention ever.

>Uh-huh, I mean is we discount the later centuries when Romans coverted on Christianity

The WRE converted to Christianity and got destroyed within 100 years.

The ERE converted to Christianity the same time, later got buttfuck by christian crusaders and then got occupied by muslim barbarians to this day.

>and if we lower our IQ enough to consider paganry an unified religion, and forget the fact celtic paganism had nothing to do with Roman paganism,

Paganism is about venerating your own blood pantheon, not about cucking to foreign gods.

><by spitting on millenia of your ancestors because they were crypto-jews :^^^)

Yeah, I don't think it's worthy to honor crypto-jews.

>>667477

>So thus technology is based upon mere interaction, so no one should be credited for any invention ever.

You were the one who brought this retarded reasoning up, discounting millenia of christian inventions because they were "based on Roman tech", and then went on to insinuate that because of that, we should seek to emulate Romans. Well, it just happens that Roman tech was also based on something, which was based on something, and so on, so if we take your argument to its logical conclusion, we arrive at cavemen, where the first human invention ever was made, and thus should seek to emulate them. Don't blame me for your own retarded logic.

>The WRE converted to Christianity and got destroyed within 100 years.

>The ERE converted to Christianity the same time, later got buttfuck by christian crusaders and then got occupied by muslim barbarians to this day.

I love how you make sure to highlight the 100 years with WRE, but then make sure to omit similar data with ERE because you know it lasted over a thousand years since converting to christianity. Your arguments are, frankly, rather pathetic - one fallacy after another.

>Paganism is about venerating your own blood pantheon

There is no thing such as "paganism". It is a blanket term, not a fucking religion. Many "pagans" didn't have any pantheon, or "blood pantheon" whatever retarded thing that's supposed to be, and your entire premise betrays that you only see religion as an extension of politics, instead of, you know, religion. You don't care if the religion is actually preaching lies or not, so long as it's "our lies". You'd probably argue for Mexicans to go back to sacrificing people on pyramid tops for no other reason than "our distant, savage ancestors did it at some point in their history, so we must too". The reason paganry died so quickly and didn't find resurgence was that it was fucking proven wrong. If your religion teaching says that your god will personally go and help you in a fight, only for christian armies to go and rape you so hard your ass bleeds for years, then obviously, your god either told you to go fuck yourself or was too weak to do anything. In either case, he is not worthy of worship because he's clearly fucking useless, so why would you keep sacrificing precious livestock (or people) to him?

>Yeah, I don't think it's worthy to honor crypto-jews.

So you really are genuinely retarded. Maybe you should stop posting and destroy your computer, since computers were invented by christians, therefore crypto-jews.

>>667482

>You were the one who brought this retarded reasoning up, discounting millenia of christian inventions because they were "based on Roman tech", and then went on to insinuate that because of that, we should seek to emulate Romans.

We actually should seek to emulate Roman, not desert jews.

>Don't blame me for your own retarded logic.

Don't need to blame you actually, just saying christians didn't invent jackshit, europeans did upon learning tech from europeans and chinks.

>but then make sure to omit similar data with ERE because you know it lasted over a thousand years since converting to christianity.

And it would last more if it stayed pagan. That 1000 years as a 1000 years of pagan of being backstabbed by christians and massacred by muslims.

>Many "pagans" didn't have any pantheon, or "blood pantheon" whatever retarded thing that's supposed to be, and your entire premise betrays that you only see religion as an extension of politics, instead of, you know, religion.

Well, our faith does, I don't know what retarded faith you possess. We have a pantheon and we have our heroes, we have no need for jew crap.

>You'd probably argue for Mexicans to go back to sacrificing people on pyramid tops for no other reason than "our distant, savage ancestors did it at some point in their history, so we must too".

Considering christian mexicans are just as bloodthristy, might as well, who gives a shit?

> The reason paganry died so quickly and didn't find resurgence was that it was fucking proven wrong.

The reason paganry died quickly because Christians went on to bribe pagan chief to convert with gold, and even change pagan gods into christian "saints" (hah).

>f your religion teaching says that your god will personally go and help you in a fight, only for christian armies to go and rape you so hard your ass bleeds for years, then obviously, your god either told you to go fuck yourself or was too weak to do anything.

Christian armies were strong because they learn from pagan romans, not because any desert god or desert jews.

> In either case, he is not worthy of worship because he's clearly fucking useless, so why would you keep sacrificing precious livestock (or people) to him?

We sacrifice to our ancestors to honor our ancestors, it's an act of respect. We have no need to sacrifice to jews.

>Maybe you should stop posting and destroy your computer, since computers were invented by christians, therefore crypto-jews.

Actually, computer was first invented by pagan greek. As said, everything the christian european made were based on pagan tech.

If you want pure christian stuff, go live in a mudhut.

>>667500

>That 1000 years as a 1000 years of pain* of being backstabbed by christians and massacred by muslims.

>>667500

>because Christians went on to bribe pagan chief to convert with gold

<Wtf our exemplars of morality and virtue with OC donut steel gods were bribed and shieet into accepting christianity to keep dem gud bois down.

>>667511

Same christians also convert to Islam the moment a sword is put to their throat.

So much for "god".

>>667290

>>667288

I don't expect you two to understand, morality is mainly a white thing. The thing is once you start acting like violent niggers(remember, your ideas on violence are only alive here, and in Africa), you have then become niggers yourself.

>>667520

Our pagan ancestors actually teach something useful: when you are being merciful to your enemy, you are being cruel to yourself.

When you don't impale your enemy, they impale you.

wew another topic shat up by hasbara jewpig trolls

>>667500

>And it would last more if it stayed pagan.

Do you have any proof for that, Shlomo?

>>667526

>Evil Christians keep ruining paganism

Pagans would've ruled the world if not for those pesky Christians (^:

>>667520

Rational violence and suppression of empathy against enemies that want your whole subspecies dead =/= lack of morality or psychopathy, cuckold boy.

>>667563

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Antonio_Bragadin

>In July, 1571 the Turks eventually breached the fortifications and their forces broke into the citadel, being repulsed only at the cost of heavy losses. With provisions and ammunition running out, and no sign of relief from Venice on August 1,[2] Bragadin asked for terms of surrender.

>at the surrender ceremony on August 5[3] where Bragadin offered the vacated city to Mustafa, the Ottoman general accused him of murdering Turkish prisoners and hiding munitions. Suddenly, Mustafa pulled a knife and cut off Bragadin's right ear, then ordered his guards to cut off the other ear and his nose.

>There followed a massacre of all Christians still in the city, with Bragadin himself most brutally abused[4]. After being left in prison for two weeks, his earlier wounds festering, he was dragged round the walls with "sacks of earth and stone" on his back; next, he was tied to a chair and hoisted to the yardarm of the Turkish flagship, where he was exposed to the taunts of the sailors.[5] Finally, he was taken to his place of execution in the main square, tied naked to a column, and flayed alive.[6] Bragadin's quartered body was then distributed as a war trophy among the army, and his skin was stuffed with straw and sewn, reinvested with his military insignia, and exhibited riding an ox in a mocking procession along the streets of Famagusta. The macabre trophy, together with the severed heads of general Alvise Martinengo, Gianantonio Querini and castellan Andrea Bragadin, was hoisted upon the masthead pennant of the personal galley of the Ottoman commander, Amir al-bahr Mustafa Pasha, to be brought to Constantinople as a gift for Sultan Selim II.

>>667526

The lithuanian pagan lasted from B&C to the 1100s.

Funny to see crypto jews defend jews.

>>667566

>at the surrender ceremony on August 5[3] where Bragadin offered the vacated city to Mustafa, the Ottoman general accused him of murdering Turkish prisoners and hiding munitions. Suddenly, Mustafa pulled a knife and cut off Bragadin's right ear, then ordered his guards to cut off the other ear and his nose.

Now that is some baste christcuck shit there, really parallel with modern day.

inb4 it is turkic lies

Not the point.

>>667618

>Catholic king

>in a buddhist country

Fucking jew slave.

>>667500

>all that ridiculous shit

>muh pagan ERE would totally last for a thousand more years because I feel it would!

>muh greeks invented computers because there is this tangential similarity. Also I ignore that greeks and romans also based their tech on other peoples because it'd blow a hole in my already shit reasoning

>moves goal posts from "MUH ROMAN PAGANISM" to "actually, I only mean ricenigger pagans, I'm too uneducated about other pagans to care and thought they are like Zeus and shiet, lol"

>"Oh yeah, Aztecs were pagans and sacrificced people… Uuuh, it's just mexicans, who cares, ignore this"

>"Chrisitan armies were better because romans somehow, even centuries after and with none of their tactics or gear and even in places never touched by Romans"

>"WE SACRIFICE FOR ANCESTORS, NOT FOR GODS! I also don't understand what religion is. Ceremony over substance, you crypto jews!"

>"Go back to a mudhut!" says a gook who lived (and possibly still lives) in bamboo huts in the jungle until those evil christians colonised his shithole

You do your monicker justice, sperg gook.

>>667622

>muh pagan ERE would totally last for a thousand more years because I feel it would!

Pagan civilization lasts for a long time, look at Egypt's 4000 years of history, or China or Japan, or even in Europe, Lithuania.

>Also I ignore that greeks and romans also based their tech on other peoples because it'd blow a hole in my already shit reasoning

They all base their techs upon pagan techs, no thanks to jews.

>>moves goal posts from "MUH ROMAN PAGANISM" to "actually, I only mean ricenigger pagans, I'm too uneducated about other pagans to care and thought they are like Zeus and shiet, lol"

Each race their gods, fuck off kike.

>"Oh yeah, Aztecs were pagans and sacrificced people… Uuuh, it's just mexicans, who cares, ignore this"

And? I'm not totally opposed to human sacrifice tbh. Criminals, kikes and crypto-jews definitely deserve to be sacrificed.

>>"Chrisitan armies were better because romans somehow, even centuries after and with none of their tactics or gear and even in places never touched by Romans"

Incorrect, all the steel wielding tech, all the formation and strategies are based upon pagan civilizations.

>"WE SACRIFICE FOR ANCESTORS, NOT FOR GODS! I also don't understand what religion is. Ceremony over substance, you crypto jews!"

We sacrifice to honor our ancestral gods, you do rituals to honor jews and crypto-jews.

>"Go back to a mudhut!" says a gook who lived (and possibly still lives) in bamboo huts in the jungle until those evil christians colonised his shithole

Yeah, we ain't niggers. Now go feed niggers, christcuck.

>>667625

>look at Egypt's 4000 years of history, or China or Japan, or even in Europe, Lithuania

All of those civilizations changed drastically over time, in terms of both religion and race(of the ruling class at least). By that logic you might as well argue Byzantine civilization is still around since Constantinople is still standing or that Aztec civilization still exists in Mexico.

>>667636

Well, that's for the christians to decide.

But the turks are gonna behead anyone who say Constantinople in Constantinople.

>>667641

>no argument

>wh-whiter than y-you, achmed

>>667625

>Pagan civilization lasts for a long time, look at Egypt's 4000 years of history, or China or Japan, or even in Europe, Lithuania.

Correlation does not prove causation and saying all those places are somehow contiuous from start to finish is just disingenuous. It's also debatable whether eastern teachings like Confucianism or Buddhism should be considered pagan. And let me remind you that christianity too has thousands of years of history now.

>They all base their techs upon pagan techs, no thanks to jews.

Because you consider literally everything other than Abrahamic religions to be pagan? Wow, what an argument, "some prehistoric caveman practiced some primitive form of animism, which I place under paganism, therefore everyone needs to suck off pagans forever".

>I'm not totally opposed to human sacrifice tbh.

Yeah, talking to you, I am starting to see why Aztecs decided to get rid of undesirables this way.

>Incorrect, all the steel wielding tech, all the formation and strategies are based upon pagan civilizations.

Again with this imbecilic reasoning. All that shit underwent long periods of evolution, especially the tactics, and soon enough had little to nothing to do with the previous Roman tactics. And what's with this constant "it's based off of something so all the consequent christian advancements do not count"? Are you actually retarded? Do you maybe think that every american car that's not a Ford ought to be put to the torch because it's based off of Ford?

>We sacrifice to honor our ancestral gods

Cool grand rhetorics, trying to mask the fact it really is just ceremony over substance. You don't believe any of those "ancestral gods" actually exist, you just think that you can make people more nationalistic if you regularly put on a big show with a charismatic speaker where cattle gets sacrificed.

>Yeah, we ain't niggers

>we

So you're a gook as well? No wonder you argue like a subhuman.

>christcuck

I'm a deist

>>667673

>Correlation does not prove causation and saying all those places are somehow contiuous from start to finish is just disingenuous.

Same for the ERE actually. So many coup and reforms.

>It's also debatable whether eastern teachings like Confucianism or Buddhism should be considered pagan.

It absolutely is heathenry, considered by christians.

>And let me remind you that christianity too has thousands of years of history now.

A mere 2000 years, 500 years tough start, 1000 year shining, 500 years in disunity and decline.

>Because you consider literally everything other than Abrahamic religions to be pagan?

Yes, since pagan is considered to be a person not being a christian, jew or muslim.

>Yeah, talking to you, I am starting to see why Aztecs decided to get rid of undesirables this way.

Glad you see the way.

>All that shit underwent long periods of evolution, especially the tactics, and soon enough had little to nothing to do with the previous Roman tactics.

Actually, medieval warfare went back to Alexander phalanx when the Renaissance happens and commanders start to read Greek military strategem. Before that, medieval tactics were based upon eastern barbarian armored cavalries, so nothing to do with Christianity.

>Do you maybe think that every american car that's not a Ford ought to be put to the torch because it's based off of Ford?

No, I just say Ford makes car because he's an european, not because he's a christian. And his inspiration are all based on pagan tech.

>You don't believe any of those "ancestral gods" actually exist,

But yo, they existed though, more evidences of them than the jew god.

>you just think that you can make people more nationalistic if you regularly put on a big show with a charismatic speaker where cattle gets sacrificed.

Projection, but either ways, I don't care any big bad jew god, my ancestors are here and I worship them, that's the end of it.

>So you're a gook as well? No wonder you argue like a subhuman.

Yeah, I'm vietnamese, and fuck christian and their nigger pets.

>I'm a deist

What the fuck is that even?

>>667674

>Same for the ERE actually. So many coup and reforms.

>implying coups and reforms are on par with getting conquered by mongols or being ruled by different, alternating ethnicities all throughout

I bet you think chinks are somehow all one ethnicity too. Also, it's cool to see you ignoring the root of the issue, which is you believing that had ERE been pagan, it would have somehow still existed today

>It absolutely is heathenry, considered by christians.

So your vision of world's religions is only determined by "christians(and jews) and non-christians". I'd tell you to go back to elementary school and educate yourself, but I don't think they teach these things in special ed

>Yes, since pagan is considered to be a person not being a christian, jew or muslim.

No, it's a person practicing polytheism. Also, funny to see how you have such a massive issue with Abrahamic religions because they destroyed muh pagan savages, but do not mind stuff like confucianism or buddhism, which also replaced native pagan beliefs far, far beyond the original peoples they originated with. Like, how are they any different from Christianity in this regard? Or did you perhaps not know about this?

>Before that, medieval tactics were based upon eastern barbarian armored cavalries, so nothing to do with Christianity.

So first you argue that ALL the tactics were based on Romans, especially ones used against pagans, but now you go on and admit that the tactics used throughout most of middle ages relied on eastern barbarians (who had nothing to do with Rome) and only went back for inspiration with Greeks by the time the vast majority of Europe was already christian? You're contradicting yourself already, even with this hilariously fallacious argument that just because something is based on something, all future discoveries do not count for who discovered them. So if I invent a wheel and you invent a car, the credit for inventing a car goes to me since a car is based on the wheel. Idiot.

>No, I just say Ford makes car because he's an european, not because he's a christian.

Oh, so suddenly the credit goes to the race rather than the religion? You should make up your mind about what you're actually arguing for

>And his inspiration are all based on pagan tech.

And we're back to the credit being given to religion. "Christian tech does not count because the discoveries were made by europeans. As for everything preceding Christianity, the credit goes to pagans in general. See, the key point is, no credit must ever be given to christians."

>my ancestors are here and I worship them, that's the end of it.

Do inform me when they, you know, actually do something. Christianity, Islam, even various pagans tell tales of miracles and god-given revelations to show the existence of god and reasons for worshipping him, whereas you seem to have a big fat nothing. "I worship my ancestors because I think it's cool and everyone should do the same"

>Yeah, I'm vietnamese

Stop using the inventions of crypto-jews and foreigners, only use inventions made by your ancestors (and only those who kept following the ancient ways). If you don't live in a bamboo shack, you're dishonoring your ancestors and should probably sacrifice yourself to them for forgiveness

>What the fuck is that even?

As if I needed any more proof that you're not just stupid, but also ignorant. Fucking educate yourself on the topic you're sperging out about you dumb vietcong.

>religion

>spirituality

WEW

How does it feel to be cucks?

The only thing you should strive for is absolute power and control. Kill everyone who stands in your way.

>>667618

Reminder that spergook was proud that his rapefugee band in muttmerica stopped the movement to seek compensation for agent orange spraying, thus affecting the american veterans who were fucked by it also.

Oh, and it spent 3 years attacking people who called out trumpkike.

>>667699

>I bet you think chinks are somehow all one ethnicity too. Also, it's cool to see you ignoring the root of the issue, which is you believing that had ERE been pagan, it would have somehow still existed today

So I guess the romans and greeks are the same? ERE was a clusterfuck of ethnicity ranging from balkan slavs, greeks to romans. I guess it dies the moment the last roman rules I guess?

>So your vision of world's religions is only determined by "christians(and jews) and non-christians". I'd tell you to go back to elementary school and educate yourself, but I don't think they teach these things in special ed

Miss me with that bullshit, the world is abrahamic vs paganry, and abrahamic wants to destroy pagantry, thus pagantry must destroy every last abrahamics.

>No, it's a person practicing polytheism.

No, it's a person not being a christian, jew or muslim. Stop trying to fuck with different.

>Like, how are they any different from Christianity in this regard? Or did you perhaps not know about this?

Confucianism worships various chinese heroes and deities, as well as various chinese emperors. Buddhists incorporates plenty of chinese and japanese deities from folklore religion, perhaps you don't know about this?

>So first you argue that ALL the tactics were based on Romans,

All tactics were based upon pagan tactics, namely romans, the greeks and eastern horse barbarians. Where do the christians come in? None and never.

>So if I invent a wheel and you invent a car, the credit for inventing a car goes to me since a car is based on the wheel. Idiot.

Can't have a car without a wheel, idiot.

>Oh, so suddenly the credit goes to the race rather than the religion? You should make up your mind about what you're actually arguing for

What I argue for each race their gods. Christians have never given anything on the world.

>And we're back to the credit being given to religion.

Yes, pagan religion is so great that it serves as the foundation for all the tech that christians claim to discover.

>Do inform me when they, you know, actually do something.

Oh they create me. Tell me when does your jew god do something.

>Christianity, Islam, even various pagans tell tales of miracles and god-given revelations to show the existence of god and reasons for worshipping him,

Each religion has its own miracles, my pagan faith included, what's your point?

>Stop using the inventions of crypto-jews and foreigners,

Each invention of crypto-jew is made from foundation from pagan. When the crypto-jew goes back to the desert and live in mudhut then we can talk.

>As if I needed any more proof that you're not just stupid, but also ignorant. Fucking educate yourself on the topic you're sperging out about you dumb vietcong.

Nobody gives a shit about theology faggot. Each race their gods, it's simple as it is. Keep worshiping jews and foreigners, idiot.

>>667704

Plenty gods accept the blood of criminals and enemies, that is not dumping trash, that is honor the gods by killing what the gods want you to kill.

>>667709

>Reminder that spergook was proud that his rapefugee band in muttmerica stopped the movement to seek compensation for agent orange spraying, thus affecting the american veterans who were fucked by it also.

Yeah, because money who went into Israel really helps the palestinian am I right?

>>667714

>Stop trying to fuck with definition*

>>667714

>So I guess the romans and greeks are the same? ERE was a clusterfuck of ethnicity ranging from balkan slavs, greeks to romans. I guess it dies the moment the last roman rules I guess?

I never said ERE was somehow ethnically homogenous - it was an empire after all - but it had been governed throughout all its history by greeks, bar a few very short term episodes of emperors of armenian heritage and similar. Chinks, on the other hand, switched the entire ruling class several times, ethnicity and all, be it mongols, manchurians, or one of the many different subjugated peoples.

>the world is abrahamic vs paganry

Brainlet confirmed.

>Confucianism worships various chinese heroes and deities, as well as various chinese emperors. Buddhists incorporates plenty of chinese and japanese deities from folklore religion

Christianity reveres many various european heroes and saints and there is plenty of religious syncretism to be found all around the place. So, again, what's the difference? Also, curious to see you move the goalposts from "muh ancient blood pantheon" to "as long as they pay some lip service to the olden times…"

>All tactics were based upon pagan tactics, namely romans, the greeks and eastern horse barbarians. Where do the christians come in? None and never.

Christian come in first century AD and develop various technologies and tactics for the next two millenia. Again, something being based on something else does not disqualify it, you moron.

>Can't have a car without a wheel, idiot.

There's a long way to go from wheel to a car, something which you continually deny like an inbred monkey, while screeching about how something was "based" on something else like it matters. Guns were based on gunpowder from China, yet I didn't see Chinks do too well against European (christian) guns despite them being based on their technology.

>What I argue for each race their gods.

Yeah, because you are, again, perfectly fine with worshipping imaginary beings that you made up as long as they are YOUR imaginary beings, as opposed to trying to find out if actual gods exist and what they might want.

>Christians have never given anything on the world.

Except nearly all technological and cultural advancement in the past two millenia.

I don't know if you are genuinely so retarded you don't see the contradictions in your own logic, or if you're merely pretending. In either case, I'm through with wasting my time on your imbecilic ass. Come back when you educate yourself and when you manage to form some manner of a cohesive opinion deeper than "CHRISTIANITY=BAD!"

>>667721

>I never said ERE was somehow ethnically homogenous - it was an empire after all - but it had been governed throughout all its history by greeks, bar a few very short term episodes of emperors of armenian heritage and similar.

So the ERE is not a continuance of the Roman

>Chinks, on the other hand, switched the entire ruling class several times, ethnicity and all, be it mongols, manchurians, or one of the many different subjugated peoples.

And? The ruling class changes but the main populace is the same. Han people is still the majority. It's not like the case where turks displace greeks and change Constatinople into Istanbul.

>Brainlet confirmed.

That is the truth.

>Christianity reveres many various european heroes and saints and there is plenty of religious syncretism to be found all around the place. So, again, what's the difference?

Saints and heroes aren't deities, and the catholics are told specifically not to worship them, for the jew god is a jealous god.

>Also, curious to see you move the goalposts from "muh ancient blood pantheon" to "as long as they pay some lip service to the olden times…"

BOTH Confucianism and Buddhism practice ancestor worship.

>Christian come in first century AD and develop various technologies and tactics for the next two millenia.

Christian come in with their mudhuts, everything else are invented by europeans using pagan technology. With or without christians, the tech would be there.

>There's a long way to go from wheel to a car, something which you continually deny like an inbred monkey, while screeching about how something was "based" on something else like it matters.

Yeah, it absolutely matters, because that's christian using pagan tech.

>Guns were based on gunpowder from China, yet I didn't see Chinks do too well against European (christian) guns despite them being based on their technology.

You mean european guns based on chink designs, that has nothing to do with christians.

>Yeah, because you are, again, perfectly fine with worshipping imaginary beings that you made up as long as they are YOUR imaginary beings,

The fuck, we worship our ancestors, who exist.

>as opposed to trying to find out if actual gods exist and what they might want.

Wow, it's like a cuckold trying to find what new bulls to please his wife.

>Except nearly all technological and cultural advancement in the past two millenia.

Which are all based on pagan technology. When christians don't use pagan technology then they can talk.

>I don't know if you are genuinely so retarded you don't see the contradictions in your own logic, or if you're merely pretending. In either case, I'm through with wasting my time on your imbecilic ass.

It was a waste, you fail to see my point and I fail to see your.

>Come back when you educate yourself and when you manage to form some manner of a cohesive opinion deeper than "CHRISTIANITY=BAD!"

Christianity is bad and there's else you can say about it, it's soul cuckery and betrayal to your bloodline, like the rest of abrahamic religion.

>>667723

>So the ERE is not a continuance of the Roman Empire, then it lasted for LESS than 1000 years, which is nothing compared to Pagan history*

>>667730

I said that, referring to the war between abrahamics vs pagantry.

Because abrahamics sure as fuck do not leave pagans alone.

>>667730

He's not the sharpest tool in the shed

>>667467

>wanting women to wear clothes while in public is gay

show me your wife and daughters' pussies

>>667744

But wanting to see naked men in public is not?

Thankfully most of these /pol/aks are dumb white niggers like Saint Vegemite of Christchurch and need massed produced small arms to get a body count. They can't even nigger rig bumpstocks for their guns.

>>667806

>and need massed produced small arms to get a body count

What does the cuck mean by this? Do you use a car or buy any product at all?

>They can't even nigger rig bumpstocks for their guns.

And risk jamming their guns during the deed?

>>667817

He probably got burned and came here to take a jab at them.

>nothing ever happens

>everything is a false flag

I hate this board sometimes.

>>667522

Kind of ironic, seeing as they kinda cucked out to the Christians directly after saying this…if they had held out we wouldn't have these ragabombers running around all over the place…

>>668913

Ignore every faggots who spam that.

>>670701

Muslims going around blowing themselves up across Europe is the fault of European weakness.

A healthy society would've fought back against them and crushed them with impunity due to superior intellectual capabilities.

>>670704

Hey I have my reasons, there were claims that there were multiple explosions when it happened

http://archive.is/RW66I

http://archive.is/4LMjo

>>672851

>Everyone knew it was bullshit back in Oklahoma.

>They passed a 20000 page bill expanding powers the next day.

Good thing nobody fought back against it, or the government bombing their own workers

>>672854

This.

Regardless of the fact it's real or not, the american does jack fucking shit about it.

In fact, the false flag narrative might be their way to cope "It's fake, guise, don't bother do shit".

>>672871

Oh by the way, these are all kitchen gas explosions AFAIK.

>>663347

> Ammonium Nitrate and fuel oil.

I get how he could have easily gotten AN, as it is a fertilizer, but where the fuck did he get fuel oil? Isn't it industrial grade? Or did he use a replacement?

>>672942

Its commonly available in North America, lots of places don't have natural gas pipelines or electrical heating is out of the question.

t.guy who lives innawoods.

>>672943

So if I get this right "fuel oil" is a stand in name for a variety of things, from diesel to heating oil.

Seems quite impossible to regulate or "put on a list" people who buy both. You would get a lot of rural people in it, given how most would use both for legal reasons like transport/heating and fertilizing.

Given how easy it is to make ANFO, it would seem reasonable for the gov to force the introduction of sabotaging chemicals in comercial products, have they done such?

If one were a terrorist one could buy a plot of land and easily justify buying tons of both.

Also kind of offtopic, but is it known what explosives did Uncle Ted use?

Did he cook them up in his shack in the forest?

>>672945

Adding anything would probably piss people off. Some fuel oils have a dye added to them for tax purposes, that shit stains everything.

>>663347

>>672942

Common misconception. Actually, he used Ammonium Nitrate and Nitromethane, which is about twice as powerful. There's still a few places where you can buy that as racing fuel, would probably look suspicious though.

>>672945

>If one were a terrorist one could buy a plot of land and easily justify buying tons of both.

yeah, that's what Breivik did. You do need to also make a primary explosive though, and you'd have to synthesize that.

>Given how easy it is to make ANFO, it would seem reasonable for the gov to force the introduction of sabotaging chemicals in comercial products, have they done such?

There's been a case in my country a few years ago. When a couple islamic terrorists tried to order H2O2, they were given a substitute chemical and monitored by the police. I think that sort of thing only happens in some european countries, though