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There's no discharge in the war!

File: 9a76db167c80bf9⋯.jpg (58.24 KB, 371x450, 371:450, b18179937322a9c5d8cdb95fe5….jpg)

59febf  No.620433

This subject fascinates me. Anyone have interesting stories, personal or published, about it?

bcb61f  No.620451

File: b6a55bfc8404ff3⋯.jpg (218.89 KB, 556x455, 556:455, Pálinkafőzés a Don - kanya….jpg)

>>620433

http://ntf.hu/index.php/2017/03/04/palinka-pezsgo-pergotuz-szeszkorkep-a-don-kanyarbol/

Here is an article in Hungarian about the Hungarian forces fighting by the Don river. Here is the gist of it:

>bringing the supplies from the second line to the first one was hard due to a lack of vehicles, so people in the second line were supplied well with alcoholic drinks (and foodstuff, and medicine, and other important things), but in the first line life was hell

>soldiers in the first line they were supposed to receive 0,5dl of rum every day, so the people responsible for it had to mix 20l of rum to the pot of morning coffee

<instead they mixed 1l of it and drank the rest

>once some people started máking pálinka from the pears of trees in a village, and they did it with their commander's approval, as the equipment was on the yard of his house (pic related)

>the doctor who wrote about this asked the man behind the operation if he had any experience; he said yes

<then the doctor asked him if he had problems with tax collectors, and he said no, because he is one of them

>Russian often drank before an attack, and they did became so reckless that the defenders just had to call in a mortar strike and watch them die

>once they got so drunk before an attack that they just sat down on the trumps of a destroyed forest and just remained there as the Hungarian soldiers were shooting them

<if one of them died an other one took his drink and sat down on his treetrump

>later the frontline started to collapse, and a logistical company was fighting in a village

>in one of the houses they found civilians making spirits

>in the middle of a firefight

>the company commander was incapacitated for some good 20 minutes by an explosion

>so a runner ran to the cellar of that house

>later two soldiers went after him and found his corpse by the door

>they too went down to the cellar and found three old Russians with their primitive distilling equipment but no weapons

>then they went back to the corpse of their comrade and found two bottles of spirits in his pockets

>brought them down to the three Russians and asked them if that's what he took from them

>they said yes, and so the Hungarian soldiers opened one of the bottles and gave it to the Russians who all drank once (emptying half the bottle )

<then the last one in turn gave it back the bottle to the Hungarians, who in the end went away with the other bottle

>once the frontline collapsed and everyone was retreating people were drinking both to cleanse their stomachs and to lessen the effects of illnesses

<one of the officers is complaining in his diary that they are turning him into an alcoholic who has to drink spirits every morning

>Hungarian officers time-to-time received French champagne from the Germans

<but it was always the low quality stuff

>during New Year's Eve the officers had a small celebration

>a few of them stayed up until 5AM

<a different group of officers managed to found prostitutes for the occassion

>once a few Hungarian hussars went in to a local pub and started singing

>the Germans there called them barbarians, so the hussars unsheated their swords and chased them out

>the Germans called other Germans, but the hussars disarmed them one-after-the-other

>in the end the German high command complained to the commander of the Hungarian army

<he gave it into order to the whole army to try to avoid such incidents, but don't let anyone mock them for being Hungarian

Also, we have a whole genre of dance and music that evolved from recruiters getting people drunk to sign up for service:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verbunkos


45720f  No.620458

File: 210f0c23af08efd⋯.jpg (205.33 KB, 532x774, 266:387, For Victory.jpg)

Not about Alcohol but a whole company was cooking meth at the barracks i was stationed at. Don't now the whole story, just heard about it after i got there.

>>620451

>the Germans there called them barbarians, so the hussars unsheated their swords and chased them out

>the Germans called other Germans, but the hussars disarmed them one-after-the-other

Hungaryans stronk!


555e57  No.620509

>>620451

That was really interesting, thanks.


30f46e  No.620513

File: 4133cdde86241ce⋯.gif (706.18 KB, 600x338, 300:169, 1540706736094.gif)

>>620451

That's funny as shit.


8bba6f  No.620518

Illicit alcohol? Before we got Zogg'd in '45 the Navy sold alcohol to their sailors eery week. Now since we don't share the same, healthy level of militarism that Westerners enjoy, here's some interesting quotes I got out of this blog (https://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/naomoe3/61026577.html) which seems well researched, at least for image board standards.

>Although the Imperial Japanese Army would restrain from drinking except for the outbreak of war, or for other morale boosting events, the Imperial Japanese Navy would sell alcohol every Friday in their on-board stores.

>The Navy out drank the Army; in fact Jisaburo Ozawa, one of the most capable officers of the IJA, has been documented as having shaking hands and had a fondness to the drink; others like Mitsuma Itakura, a distinguished Submariner of the IJA was a known drunkard, and was caught being drunk while on duty during his time in the Training Fleet, and had to write 8 written apologies, the record for the IJA. After receiving his commission he got in trouble for drunkenly punching his admiral after he (the admiral) did not return at the proper time for officers. He steadily made a reputation for being a skilled submariner, and served with the JMSDF and developed the first domestic Japanese submarines built after the war. (https://sabage-archive.com/blog/archives/12848)

>From examples like above, drunkards were not reprimanded in the IJA, and could still continue to increase in rank; when the brass was fond of the drink, its only natural that the lower orders would drink.

>officers would often call upon the lower ranks to have a drink, just so they had a reason to drink

>There were fatal accidents involving alcohol and drunkards

>The battleship Mikasa, the flagship of the IJA during the Russo-Japanese war never sank in battle, but sank twice due to its own crew. The first time it sank was four months after the IJA's victory, where a sailor sneaked alcohol into the boiler room and accidentally spilled the container which caused an unfortunate chain of events leading to an explosion killing 399 men and wounding 200 more; keep in mind that only 133 men died during the Battle of the Sea of Japan in the Mikasa.

>Before the last engagement for the Yamato, her crew were allowed to purchase as much alcohol as they liked, with a limit to stop drinking at 2100. Of course, this probably never happened and we can assume many of the crew fought not only American planes, but with a bad case of the hangover. It is not hard to entertain the thought that the crew of Yamato were not in peak shape at the battle.

>This sort of "Last Drink" before a battle was often seen in the IJA, and with the clear approval of the higher ranking officers.


4219f8  No.620536

Some fuckwit I used to be friends with got caught brewing moonshine and meth apparently in his home on base. His wife squealed on him and didn't get charged with anything.

Deserved it though, he knew full well they inspect on base housing.


de9db0  No.620640

>Hungarian officers time-to-time received French champagne from the Germans

<but it was always the low quality stuff

Well yeah the french viticulturists were keeping all the good stuff for themselves as all peasants do in wars.

I have a WWII booze story that my grandad told me.

>German company goes trough village.

>Villagers signs them to stop.

>Give them a couple of crates of wine, sometimes spirits.

>German are happy to find such accommodating french villagers.

>Becomes a regular thing.

>Commies "resistance" tried to put the guys that were doing that on trial for "helping" the Germans after liberation.

<Guys reveal the truth.

<All the Germans that stopped went back on the road half drunk…

<The 50km long treacherous mountain road.

<During the war they lost at least 6 trucks full of soldiers (and more of equipment) in ravines after getting re-supplied by the "nice" villagers.

It's a nice story about how people that are nice to you don't necessarily have your best interest at heart (and to never trust peasants).


7cd658  No.620644

>>620640

Killing with /k/indness


95012c  No.620651

>>620640

that's actually pretty cool.

I don't know all that much about them but I tend to hear much more positive things about the inland/rural french than the coastal/urbanite french. Is that in any way based in reality?


477124  No.620653

>>620640

Can you tell us about what happened with the French and their guns? I think le francais resistance always had a hard time getting guns because your government confiscated them right after WW1, what's the story? iirc the brits grabbed guns around the same time because all the vets they abandoned and generally treated like shit were killing themselves or something


bdf848  No.620654

>>620651

Coastal dwellers in Australia tend to be much more left wing. I don't understand why.


cb9a00  No.620655

>>620654

Living the easy life tends to make them leftist. That is just a guess.


81cbd4  No.620656

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81cbd4  No.620659

>>620654

It's the same in America.

Bill Burr has a set that made fun of the fact coastal dwellers tend to be leftists with undeserved superiority complexes.


b04370  No.620662

>>620654

Port Cities tend to be vectors for (((multiculturalism)))

San Francisco was one of the busiest ports on the West Coast, look at it now. I’m sure the same is most likely true for Australia.


cb9a00  No.620663

>>620659

>>620662

Interesting, I think the cities need the population restrictions so they cannot take over the politics.


de9db0  No.620694

>>620653

>confiscated them right after WW1

They confiscated them in the first weeks of WWII using emergency power to bypass french constitution.

To be fair it was to prevent a commies uprising 1917-style to help the Germans (and the commies indeed did all they could by setting up strikes, sabotaging supplies trains, etc… A lot of problems of the french army in WWII were structural but that certainly didn't help).

The things is once the government confiscates your gun rights they're never coming back.


89707f  No.620706

>>620458

We had a few stories like this at our technical training school. We had a 24/7 front desk in the student barracks where you would sign in and sign out every day in order to enforce curfew, and the front desk was always manned by troops that were held up in their training for one reason or another– usually issues with getting their top-secret clearance. Well, being a bored, sketchy, and centrally-located group of people it was only sensible that the night shift started selling psychedelics out of the trunk of a car as a side business. There was also the guy in the SIGINT barracks that set up a meth lab in his 2'x'6 bathroom. The rooms got inspected by student ""leaders"" every week, but somehow they never bothered opening his bathroom door. You'd imagine people would notice that he hadn't showered for months, but I'm pretty sure he ended up getting busted because he got a roommate. When the commander asked why he did it he said that it was because he got bored. In a way I wish we kept people like that just for their ingenuity.


7cd658  No.620710

>>620654

Coastal settlements tend to be high-density urbanised communities, with urbanisation resulting in interdependence and social atomisation which tends to support a leftist worldview. Humans tend to fail at maintaining coherent social networks above 150 people, so the hypersocialised people living in high-density cities end up having to form their social connections based off of arbitrary identifiers like gender or media consumption instead of familial ties for example.

By contrast people living in lower-density rural, pastoral or even wilderness environments have to be more self-reliant, capable and protecting of their community. Being able to to go outdoors without getting enriched by urban multiculturalism also helps, as physically fit individuals tend to be more right wing, while urban sedentary lifestyles encourage dependence upon outside forces for protection and sustenance.

I have unironically had to live with leftists who believed self-reliance was a dangerous sign of nazism, and were proud of their inability to survive without societal assistance.


dc939d  No.620723

>>620694

Why exactly would the commies help the germans? Even if at the time the Ruskies werent at war with them, Commies and NSDAP still have rather different goals.


071ae5  No.620727

>>620694

huh? commies would've helped the germans.. but in the same post you acknowledge that they sabotaged german supply lines? in reality many members of the french and polish resistance were commies


de9db0  No.620734

>>620727

>>620723

Threadly reminder that in 1939 the commies and Nazis were allied.

Communist parties, especially french and Italian ones were NEVER independent from the USSR and directly followed orders from Moscow through the Comintern.

>in the same post you acknowledge that they sabotaged German supply lines?

They sabotaged FRENCH supplies lines (well french factory lines mostly) in 1939-1940.

Communist resistance to Germany only started when Germany attacked the USSR until then the Comintern gave explicit order to, at the very least, not attack the Germans.

Of course given that the official party stance was "Germany (and the USSR) aren't doing anything bad in Poland" they got outlawed. The Comintern asked the leadership desert (they went to Belgium… where latter the Germans didn't do anything to them and let them go back to France or Moscow unhindered despite being aware they were commies AND where wanted in France) which they did while still promoting "anti-militarism" to the base AKA sabotaging military assets.

Quite a few workers cardholder were executed by military tribunals most notoriously the Daher case where workers were actively sabotaging plane engines in a way to create explosion in mid-air, that downed several planes until military maintenance found the cause and reported it was clearly intentional (cables cut, etc). A 12 men communist cell was found to be responsible and executed.

Communist have ALWAYS been 5th columnists for Moscow and have NEVER cared about national interests with the notable exception of a few leader here and there that the Comintern was tasked to kill in priority (with Tito being the only one that managed to survived).


de9db0  No.620735

>>620734

Note that they did the same in Asia, commies almost never fought with the Japanese (despite claiming otherwise), they first and foremost attacked the government/nationalists forces.


ad639f  No.620736

>>620735

This is true, Mao actually celebrated when the japs invade China.

The communists are always controlled by outside force.


477124  No.620762

>>620694

>>620734

WW2 was autistic


de9db0  No.620773

>>620767

>Germany gov' is anti-jew and anti-communist.

>Allies themselves with communists.

>Let all the french communists Jews that are wanted criminal, they find go, instead of whacking them in the bushes right and proper and call it a favor.

>Communist Jews proceed to become a nightmare for the Germans in occupied France and Belgium.

>HURR DURR LOOK AT ME I'M SMART.

We hate you because you're a bunch of retards that have systematically ruined any attempt at European unity over petty bullshit and autistic self-interest.


e368ec  No.620810

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File: b48c9ccd79538e1⋯.jpg (102.05 KB, 926x630, 463:315, image-20141208-5164-gnu63s.jpg)

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>you're a bunch of retards that have systematically ruined any attempt at European unity

Look who's talking


4219f8  No.620822

>>620773

>>620810

>European unity

Europeans have spent pretty much their entire existence beating the shit out of each other.


162631  No.620841

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>>620734

>Threadly reminder that in 1939 the commies and Nazis were allied.

even in 1939 the only people who believed that were the ones who didn't get the memo. useful idiots aren't always on the same page


c6f05b  No.620870

I remember hearing about good ol' Appalachian boys that got in the Pacific and ended up going innawoods to gather plants, roots, ect, just so they could make batches of moonshine.

It got so bad that some MPs had to put known moonshiners on lockdown because they were afraid they'd stumble onto the Japs or whatever the hell kind of creature was in the swamps.

This is actually where the practice of using cattail to make moonshine comes from. These guys came back with a greater knowledge that literally everything could be used to make booze, and fucking hell did they abuse it.


60024c  No.620872

These days all you see is niggers making lean in the barracks.


360ddd  No.620899

>>620773

>you're a bunch of retards that have systematically ruined any attempt at European unity

<French revolution

<Napoleon

<Templar persecution and extinction just to escape debts

Yeah thanks.


9b817c  No.620905

>>620872

What is "lean"? Is this some Reddit thing?


c6f05b  No.620913

>>620905

Lean is basically a nigger-drink from Houston, in which you combine Promethazene-Codiene with Sprite and Jolly Ranchers.


987489  No.621063

After WWII a lot of Russian soldiers were stationed in Germany. Besides looting, killing and raping, they were also drinking all the time.

Their government had already reduced the alcohol rations for them, because they were getting shit-faced all the time and causing problems.

What does a good Russian do when the civilians don't have any booze anylonger, and his government won't supply him?

He starts to make his own.

So the Russians made their combat engineers welder up simple distillation devices. A couple washed out fuel barrels, some pipes, some heaters, done.

With a setup such as this, there is only one problem: heat regulation. They ended up cooking their perfectly fine Ethanol, into Methanol.

Methanol has the same effects on the human body as Ethanol. Only with one difference: As Ethanol is turned into sugar using lots of water inside of your liver, Methanol is turned into neurotoxins using lots of water.

The first symptom of Methanol poisoning (besides getting terribly terribly drunk very quickly) is blindness.

So many Russian sodliers got drunk of methanol booze, that there is a saying in German about it to this day:"to get blind drunk" (lit "Sich blind trinken"). All official numbers about deaths related to methanol poisoning are memoryholed, but if you can find numbers about deaths of soviet military personnel stationed in Germany, and wonder why their numbers were still rather high, it wasn't any combat. It was methanol.

My old high-school-equivalent chemistry teacher used to tell us all the time about that one time they found an entire platoon of dead or dying Russians in a barn. They informed the nearest army units. Ruskies didn't even bat an eye and sent over an architect a couple months later to erect a monument for those who had fallen capturing this village.

Nobody had fought over the village. The German army (and population) had retreated to a system of old mine-shafts in a nearby mountain.


4650a0  No.621160

File: a711d972667cd9c⋯.jpg (77.4 KB, 960x954, 160:159, French head of state.jpg)

File: a82e25f70a356b4⋯.png (228.23 KB, 399x629, 399:629, Cunt_Reich.png)

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File: 56a503f24eea638⋯.jpg (32.97 KB, 620x413, 620:413, french manlet complex.jpg)

>>620773

>European unity over petty bullshit and autistic self-interest




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