/k/ - Weapons

Well technically it is your one and only chance, since they had to contact the original maker for that shit. Not like you're finding surplus anywhere. May as well go for the most exotic or just aesthetically pleasing patch to you.

On another note, it really seems like kommandostore is going for more /fa/ than /k/ as of late, there's been a shitload less surplus than I expected them to go for while places like Sportsmans Guide has weird milsurp coming in every so often.

>>613335

I thought it was because the milsurp is drying up, and I think its /fak/ imho, but you're kinda right. I think maybe its because its what people want? Maybe combat proven and non shitty surplus is hard to find? I have no idea.

If you want to go for memery: the police of Berlin has a reputation for being incompetent, drunk, and unnecessarily aggressive. Some claim they have been subverted by Turk islamists.

Bavarian police are known to be fed up with Lederhosen wearing tourists getting drunk and causing trouble in the cities, and for being lazy, barely literate, inbred farmers in the villages.

>>613336

Nowadays you don't need cheap milsurp to get acceptable gear. You can pay the same to get Chinese shit which does the same.

>>613336

Their niche was flecktarn, which is definitely drying up worldwide in non-manlet sizes, but now they're just focusing on /fak/.

>Maybe combat proven and non shitty surplus is hard to find

Combat proven is hard to find since that's what everyone wants, but non-shitty surplus is essentially everything else minus Italian shit that nobody wants.

>>613335

>Well technically it is your one and only chance, since they had to contact the original maker for that shit.

I got into contact with 'em, they said if it's popular enough they'll contact the manufacturer for another round. That being said I've ordered one of these with the Bavarian patch already, looks like nice shit.

>it really seems like kommandostore is going for more /fa/ than /k/ as of late

Like others have said, the good surplus is drying up, and because militaries make retarded decisions there isn't any good new surplus appearing. Would you buy a set of digicam ACUs? Would anyone besides the most normie-tier boomer LARPers? I don't mind the direction they're taking, "surplus repro that appeals to /k/ memes" is a perfectly fine niche to get into, as it provides a good source of camp clothes that doesn't look tacticool or hipsterish.

>>613335

I don't know, that gorka run looked pretty badass. I hate that I had to miss out on it, but life happens sometimes

What's the material feel like? Is it a slick synthetic type or a rougher canvas sort of feel?

>>613372

Its the new business model that they're doing, I kinda like it, makes me feel like I am buying history, and unique stuff.

>>613374

I think its closest to a Carhartt jacket.

cool jacket but when will you wear something saying police in public? and if innawoods why not wear one of your 1000 camo jackets?

>>613383

it's police in German, and its not extremely practical in those senses, but can be used in public outside of Germany.

>>613355

>Would you buy a set of digicam ACUs?

Buy it and dye it in a natural color.

Now you have a good pair of fashionable army clothes.

>>613363

My friend, you can buy legit suits directly from the Russians, at better prices too.

https://grey-shop.ru/Special-suits/Gorka-Suits

The shipping ain't bad either.

>>613404

I'm sure Tyreekus (who can barely read English) will know the difference between the two.

>>613407

The brushstroke fiasco?

Also, I would ask myself this before buying it: if it wasn't for the history behind this jacket (icon of cold war West Germany) would I buy it for the price Ivan is asking?

>>613407

Speaking of gouging and cheap surplus,

>ordered one of their Flecktarn Mystery Boxes

>initially happy with the flecktarn I got because if nothing else it was a small discount

>upon closer inspection find the zippers are either ripped off or close to it and the buttons are corroded to hell and back with various stains inside

>looked at the reviews to see that most other people not only received what I got in much better condition but about $100 more(in kommandostore prices of course) in extra bits

I stuffed my hobojacket in the closet for use in desperate times, but I don't think I trust Ivan's quality control with anything that isn't brand new and sealed.

>>613413

The Ivans did a run of modified ones.

>>613413

Kommandostore run had a few improvements over the default.

>>613419

>The Brushstroke Fiasco?

IIRC, Ivan had(or has. Not sure if it’s still pending) an earlier pre-order ordeal with repro rhodie brushstroke fabric in bulk to sell and make BDUs with. While people were waiting for their orders and clothes to drop, he was making retarded shit with the fabric like dogbeds and keyfobs. Apparently he ran out of the fabric doing so and the customers had to wait about six months or so before another order came in and got their fabric, which had mixed reviews.

>>613504

I don't remember the back order situation being that bad and from what I remember it was actual uniforms that ran out, but there was plenty of raw fabric. I ordered some of the cheaper second string stuff he was offering, it was from the initial test run to see if the design was actually go work and had some very small blemishes in sections of the bolt from dying issues, but I ended up with nine yards of pristine repro brushstroke.

>>613407

I've always liked them, sue me

RQ'ing terrorwave fashion guides

>>613538

>>613504

All I remember is it just taking a long ass time to finally get to us. Which is to be expected as I am pretty sure Ivan was just some fucking college student at the time.

As far a quality goes it was to be expected it was just tru-spec BDUs, not the best not the worst. I am mostly just pissed they chose to do "one sizes fits all" boonie hats and then proceeded to run out and just give me a refund on the item.

I will say that Ivan's brush stroke is darker than Fireforce Ventures, I wonder which is truly more accurate.

>>613334

As a German I have to ask why you would pay a high price for the reproduction of one of the most ugly uniform pieces the police in Germany ever wore?

>>613372

I ordered the Versengtarn parka from Kommandostore back in march and they still have yet to deliver the product.

They have done a decent job delivering updates on its product and the issues that they have faced, which is nice.

I'm still not satisfied though, I want the parka I paid for pretty soon.

Pre-ordering was entirely my own mistake, but I hope Ivan can get them shipped soon. Especially since I also ordered the Gorka /k/

>>613554

I find that the BDU by Fireforce Ventures is quite expensive for what you get. The pattern is effective but I can't say I'd trust the BDU to last for a prolonged time in the field.

Paticularly the T-shirt and short shorts feel flimsy, the shorts are good for summers months though.

I've had some questionable experiences regarding getting sizing right at Fireforce Ventures aswell, while I've had good experiences asking questions to Ivan and the crew.

>>613554

I find the ones Ivan did hold up better than the Fireforce ones due to them being made of ripstop. I blew the armpit out of the fireforce one.

>>613566

>I ordered the Versengtarn parka from Kommandostore back in march and they still have yet to deliver the product.

They've been running them to get dyed for months now so I wouldn't expect them until next year.

>>613573

I'm not sure, in the latest update they gave about the versengtarn they mentioned that the dyeing was done, and that they were looking for a proper sewing company to take on the task, which I hope is the case.

>>613565

Fuckly as hell and usually worn by old and fat 50 year old cops.

The cool thing of the old uniform was the leather jacket, but the rest belonged into the garbage as it was designed to look as non threatening as possible after the faggy 68er movement got into power.

>>613576

Last I saw they still had some to dye and they dumped all they could on every local sewing business that would take them.

>>613579

I don't think you understand how popular bomber jackets are in America. The design is a staple of both a work coat and a going out coat. What you're calling ugly is just a foreign made piece of Americana.

>>613611

It isn't connected to those sorts over here. You'd probably have a heart attack at the amount of bomber jackets I see when I'm out in a public place. Everything from premium fur lined ones to shells you wear over something else.

Do they ship to europoorland?

If so whats the additional cost?

>>613639

>Do they ship to europoorland?

Yes

>If so whats the additional cost?

Whatever USPS/UPS/etc says.

Any good field/range time belts y'all wear? Feel like webbed belt is the way to go but I have to wonder if there are any nice ones in brown leather that would work with cargo pants.

>>613890

The in-house brand from Varusteleka is pretty nice for what it is.

>>613563

>German self hating has made it this far that they don't like one of the best uniforms on earth.

Woe truly is the state of Germany.

>>613969

>stubbornly maintained as national police uniform for years in spite of EU kvetching

It's implicitly anti-ZOG.

>>613985

Its literally the old ZOGbot uniform.

>>614003

It's culture, and was done organically and naturally.

>>614117

>the redhead

It adds some variety, got tired of seeing Christopher Poole all over the site.

>>613570

>>613566

Ya I would say the Fireforce ones were more intended to be faithful reproductions I guess. The T-shirt and boonie hat I got from Fireforce has survived so far but I don't do anything but dove and hog hunting as far as camo activities go.

>>614130

Y-you too…

>>614105

Anon you are aware that the german police before that green shit uniform wore the same uniform as the police in the old Reich?

And that the green shit uniform was created after the goverment bowed to the demands of the 68er movement full of hippies and fags?

>>614353

It does not matter if its left wing or right wing, its German cultural icon, and that's what matter's in this case.

>>614354

That's fucking retarded. It looks fucking gross.

>>613339

>minus Italian shit that nobody wants.

Hey, they had a really decent combat jacket in the 80's/90's. Can't say much for their more modern stuff. What I've seen is all made in chingchongland.

>>614441

I wish tac vests were socially acceptable.

>>614444

Who gives a fuck.

Just wear it.

>>614449

Throw a few fishing flies into it, boom fishing vest. Bonus if you get a non-camo boonie cap to go with it.

>>614449

You can pull off anything in public, it's all about confidence.

I wear a field bag in public.

Years ago when I started carrying it, I was a little worried that it was too much of a purse.

Then I got the "I dare you to call it a purse" attitude.

Now it's just normal to me and I don't think about it,

I even have some guys come up to me and ask where they can get one.

>>614453

Also, get one that fits.

Solid colors are better than cammo.

Keep it clean.

Don't over stuff the pockets.

>>614450

I like that Idea.

>>614453

>You can pull off anything in public, it's all about confidence.

It's less about 'pulling it off' and more about staying inconspicuous. I don't want to look like I'm trying to cover up a carry gun when I'm trying to cover up a carry gun.

>>613407

>nu-commando store

I ordered $30 worth of patches right before the "old" site shut down. never received them.

>>613413

you are good leaf, you won't get the rake. as mentioned by others, this run was supposed to be an improvement.

>>614354

>its German cultural icon, and that's what matter's in this case.

But you are wrong Strelok. Some Germans may miss green color of the police, but nobody gives a shit about the bomber jacket or other clothing piece because the uniform was universally seen as ugly and constantly made fun of by the people.

You can see this fact when you go into any German surplus store, they have a tone of old police stuff lying around that nobody wants. Bundesgrenzschutz, Bundeswehr, NVA and other stuff goes quickly over the counter, yet the police gears is collecting dust.

This bomberjacket isn't even rare to find in Germany or sold out, you would just have to look around a little bit to find a non manlet sized one.

>>614449

I bought some tact-gear recently and I wish I could go out and about in my full battle dress, but I still feel like an autismo if I'm wearing any of it. I do, however, still wear my equine boots out and about, since they provide that compression to my entire leg; I like big, nice looking boots, but the ones I have for work come to the ankle and just cut off circulation halfway into the day.

I think I'd like to start by just wearing the harness and ass sack out and about; it's like a fanny pack, but it's less in the way and doesn't make me feel like some tourist jackass.

>>614550

gay cunt

>>614550

Good thing you bought that gas mask, never take it off. The world shouldn't know the face of someone who'd unironically wear all this shit.

>>614550

>velcro anything

>>614593

>>614589

>>614582

>literally nothing constructive

>>614605

You might as well wear a gimp suit, you fucking faggot.

>>614605

Dude, it's Sam Fischer wanna-be stuff.

Most of it is impractical unless you're on a SWAT team.

Unless you're a high intensity/low field time operator, it's the wrong gear.

The gloves and pads are for room clearing.

The drop holsters aren't good for innawoods because your side arm and ammo are going to get beat up by the brush and the holster itself is going to snag on everything.

You'd be better off with a cowboy pistol belt, leather gloves and a canvas backpack.

>>614612

It's not made for innawoods, this is my "shit hit the fan" kit for surviving in a metropolitan area while things are being shitty.

>>614614

Then half my critique still stands.

It screams "tactical" too much.

You want low key gear unless you're in a team.

You're better off with a safari vest and a high quality messenger bag.

If you need more gear than the messenger bag, get an urbanite/boomer backpack that's high quality but doesn't look military.

>>614617

I suppose I understand, but I bought it for that look; intimidation is just as good a tactic as any, although if someone's shooting we're probably past that point.

>>614619

>why a gas mask

why have any preventative measure, why even have a gun?

>>614620

>intimidation is just as good a tactic

>drawing as much attention as I can is a good tactic

>>614620

>intimidation is just as good a tactic as any

I would argue that it isn't.

Being aggressive looking will bring out wanna-be tough guys looking to prove themselves.

It will also attract attention immediately when shit goes down and any belligerents will automatically see you as a combatant.

As a solo survivor or a small group, you're far better off looking like a field journalist.

That way you're the last person an aggressor will focus on unless the goal is to eliminate witnesses.

Look at the khaki jacket and safari vest I posted last night and ask yourself if you see a guy wearing that as a threat.

>>614625

>wearing a gas mask when the air is fine to breathe

that's how you waste filters, you'd have to be a retard to run around with no peripheral vision

>to look cool

I honestly just went with my heart on most of it; I figured I'm not lasting long in the wastes, may as well look how I want to.

>>614626

>Being aggressive looking will bring out wanna-be tough guys looking to prove themselves.

That's when me and my friend start shooting, vagrants and lone wolves aren't intimidating, and neither are coordinated groups that shit themselves when they see a guy wearing obvious tactical gear.

>belligerents will see you as a combatant

that was mostly the point; looking like a threat to draw out other threats is my endgame; see how many will kill me and be killed by me.

>ask yourself if you see the guy wearing that as a threat

My friend and I were just gonna go cowboy and kill some dudes who were making a ruckus, wander around abandoned cities, and maybe die in a shitty situation. So regardless I'd probably shoot every faggot in sight.

>last person an aggressor will focus on

I don't think that would work in a situation where everyone's ransacking shit for fun, my endgame is to be prepared for most and ready to adapt.

>>614605

kys yourself

>>614633

This post makes you sound like a psychopath.

The behavior you are describing is a war crime.

The purpose of a SHTF prep is to survive, protect, and rebuild.

I have a family to protect and values to keep.

You sound as if you are a direct threat.

>>614633

Glad I'm not the only one here getting ready to play Fallout 76.

>>614633

>inb4 you end up shot by bubba with his butchered mosin thinking you're some nigger trying to steal his durr.

>>614653

For what fucking reason is there a thermos on it? Its only application is for sub-24-hours trips when you don't intend to cook anything but otherwise they're worthless, the time between you'd set up fires to cook shit is big enough for thermos' contents to cool off.

>>614789

I think the wool on the water bottle is just to help keep it from freezing as fast, or are you talking about the gas mask canister?

>>614789

The big tin is for a gas mask or whatever else you wanna toss in there. The little one up top is for whatever and you can cook shit in those real fucking quick with a tiny fire.

>>614791

The wool is to keep them from denting and making more noise than needed.

>>614794

>>614791

>gas mask canister

>not cloth pouch

Well that's significantly more retarded than carrying a thermos. Making it out of metal just makes it extra heavy for no good reason, and you couldn't stuff full face visor mask in that thing either.

>having gas mask at all

Not to mention, a gas mask is only good for 2-3 hours of use, then you need to replace the cartridge. I could accept that thing for keeping the cartridges, if it has internal soft padding, but again that shit ain't gonna last very long, if you don't escape the gassing area immediately you're as good as dead anyway, that's why nobody carries spare cartridges. You don't carry a gas mask just in general unless you 1) expect to be gassed and 2) have an escape vehicle handy.

99% of the time there's airborne hazards you don't need a gas mask, a simple filter leaf will do. Gas masks are only for poison gases. But those cannot be seen or smelled, you need a specialized detector device to tell its presence. If you don't have one, you can't tell if you're being gassed, so you wouldn't use your mask anyway and therefore carrying one was a complete waste.

>>614838

You can use the same argumentation to justify carrying a parachute on you at all times. And an emergency raft, too.

>>614847

I bet you would want soldiers to drop their FAKs too.

>>614838

>>614847

To elaborate, since you flag-hiding yid might actually be too stupid to understand.

Carrying around a gas mask is like carrying around a parachute. Unless you know full well you gonna need it, it's nothing but extra weight. And the scope of situations in which you gonna need it is extremely limited. A parachute is absolutely useless as a device if you don't climb to high altitudes. A gas mask is absolutely useless as a device if you don't get full on war scale gas attacked. Because even tiny concentration of gas require an absolute shitload of it to be dispersed if the location has any sort of ventilation let alone it's in the open air, to get into lethal concentrations ballpark you need to dump that shit by the truckloads, quite literally. A full ton of sarin dispersed to a lethal dose will only cover a volume of air 300 m on the side 40 meters high, and that shit will fall down to the ground pretty fast. So a scenario where you would need a gas mask involves being in the middle of a military conflict serious enough to warrant going all-out with available WMDs, short of nukes, and shitting all over Geneva convention in general. Or if you have some genetic deformity that gave you a pollen allergy.

>>614850

>not wearing a gasmask to protect against cold air

>not wearing a gasmask to protect against smoke

>not wearing a gasmask to protect your face against insects and mosquitos

>not wearing a gasmask to protect against pepper spray

>not wearing a gasmask as IFF

>>614550

>What is this? "Rampage" directed by Uwe Boll?

>>614803

What is tear gas? Do you realize in an early-collapse scenario getting caught in a riot, and subsequently teargassed, is very much a possibility?

>>614854

Imagine being this retarded.

>>614856

Nigger go look up how much weight there is in a volume of uncompressed gas, and go look up just how much metal is required to store it in compressed fashion. Even if you liquefy it, which is your best bet, that's still about 1 ton per cubic meter.

>using gas mask for tear gas

*snap*

>>614991

So you never wore a gas mask without a filter when you had to march in winter? It works well to keep your face warm an protect your skin from the wind/ice. They also work well against smoke with a filter. I don't know what you are on about. Obviously it won't magically produce oxygen for you, but at least the filter will allow you to not cough your lungs out.

If you have ever been in a swamp in summer you will know that mosquitos are immensely annoying, especially in your face. Wearing a gasmask, without a filter can keep them out of your face. Wearing a gasmask will also keep the pepperspray out of your eyes.

IFF can be controversial. Some say that seeing the faces of your comrades makes it a lot easier, but camo paint makes even that difficult. Wearing a gasmask when the enemy does not makes it easy to figure out who is with you and who is not. Of course the enemy could abuse this, which is why you mustn't rely on it.

>>614803

The canister keeps the mask from getting fucked. Also it isn't much heavier than a pouch, strong enough to withstand a fuckton of bumping around, light enough it isn't a problem and is out of the way.

>>614887

That's not how you greentext, back to 4chan.

>>614991

>*action*

faggot

>Nigger go look up how much weight there is in a volume of uncompressed gas

I don't need to look it up, I know that tear gas pellets even in very small quantities are very fucking effective; any kind of toxin that is not air that gets in your system will fuck you up, and no amount of weird factoid bullshit is going to save you from being a stupid retard getting gassed when everyone else around you is wearing their less than 8 ounce gas mask as you're remarking about how much it's weighing them down.

>that's still about 1 ton per cubic meter

where the fuck are you getting your numbers? You know compressed gasses come in all shapes and sizes, right? A fucking canister of hairspray is a compressed gas and that is probably an ounce, if that.

And if you are talking lethal dosage, I'd say the dose that makes you pass out is just as lethal as dying in a combat zone; remember, tear gas is an inhumane way to tranquilize the opponent, talking about how much you'd need to kill someone is full retard; the point of it isn't to kill, it's primarily to disrupt and disperse groups. Riot police are in fact not designed to kill and maim, but to stop a fucking group of aggressive people from being a group and aggressive. It's the same as saying rubber bullets need to be really close in to be lethal; yeah, I'm sure that if you wanted to kill someone with rubber, a shotgun and some close face shots would maim someone, but again, the point is to incapacitate or otherwise dissuade the masses from being assholes.

>tl;dr

you're a retard if you think a gas mask is useless on the stance alone that it does not protect you from immediate lethal harm.

>>615145

But of course all that begs the question. Your dipshit argument was that you would use a gas mask for tear gas so it'd be useful. This is a dipshit argument because there will be no tear gas in such situation where that military-grade kit would be applicable. Just bullets.

>>615145

>hurr durr compressed gasses aren't practical

you're getting a lot of shit from sources that tell me you have zero field experience with being gassed.

>>615145

So they Tokyo sarin attacks didn't happen because they didn't dump tanker trucks full of gas into it?

>>614653

what is that kit called? and who sells it?

>>614550

I hope you're happy, your shit taste derailed the entire thread.

>>615465

uh, it's a basic german infantryman load out from WW2. there are many places that sell both original, and repro gear

is there an english translation for these comics? If so please link it.

>>615492

These things are gold.

>>615230

Dead on

Also what is a spray bottle of vx lol