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There's no discharge in the war!

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5a5197  No.607353

Welcome to Central Command & Control: A place for questions and comments on the organisation, communication, and planning of military operation.

>initial question

In response to various forms of decapitation tactics and intelligence gathering operations against organisations many have obfuscated their command structure. This obfuscation tends to take the form of independent cells operating with no real understanding of the greater whole of the organisation where individuals are only given information concerning their assignments and their direct superior and inferiors. This has largely been very effective at preventing these sorts of attacks. So long as communications infrastructure is well enough established it seems coordination of forces would not be a problem and yet if the command collapsed the independent cells could continue operations. My question is concerning training and promotion in such a organisation.

In regards to training how can a organisation of this sort go about training while preserving the anonymity of its hierarchy. Especially in the case of high level tactical training for commanders, or other specialist skills.

In regards to promotion how can a organisation of this sort go about maintaining a military meritocracy while retaining anonymity of soldiers and officers, especially in the event that the individual cells win a war of attrition after the collapse of their leadership and need to recreate leadership by promoting from within. For example in the event of a national government's military leadership being taken out by assassinations and a collapse of the civilian government, how do you keep the fight going.

3ab69c  No.607419

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Training with specialist skills I imagine would end up being easier than general tactical skills, since these specialists are usually organized into dedicated cells. Training could be done by setting up what is essentially a training cell, which supplies training in the same way a bombmaking cell would supply IEDs. Commanders could pass down orders to a cell stating that their most knowledgeable member is to be transferred to Cell T (The training cell, though they should only be told it is an honorable and elite cell, both to maintain OPSEC and to make sure they don't send a bumblefuck)– if there are many cells of the same specialty then Commanders could request something like a resume be sent on behalf of each cell's most knowledgeable individual. Once the training cell is established with experts from most specialist fields then classes can begin: new and under-performing individuals can be reported by the cell leader to a regional commander, who can then send a request for training up to the Commander, who will notify Cell T. Once there are enough individuals for a class, all cells that have reported an individual in need of training will be told that those individuals will report to a certain building on X date and expect them to be gone for Y weeks. The trainer should give a fake name and give the impression that he is simply a lone benefactor helping the organization, perhaps claiming some former education or professional experience to justify all his knowledge.

Alternatively, intelligent members could be identified and sent to an over-performing cell as an "apprentice" in order to learn how they operate and build a training plan around those operations (working of course with the cell leader to ensure accuracy,) which could either be used to establish Cell T using similarly intelligent "apprentices" or the training plans could be sent to every cell to be used for intracell training. I should also mention that this all assumes that this is a relatively large organization. In smaller organizations training would probably be intracell.

This is all off-the-cuff, there are probably several glaring errors here, feel free to point them out.


5a5197  No.607445

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>>607419

Typically cells are a bit larger than this and tied to geography. For example Hezbollah divided 270 villages of south lebanon into cells of 12 villages and subcells of 2-3 villages. They then did "feed forward logistics" to insure that each cell could continue operation for 6 weeks without resupply. The reason for this is that in a war of attrition geography is one of the most important advantages the occupied force has. Other than the symantics though I quite like these ideas, you of course have the issue of individuals knowing their peers in this training unit, but perhaps that's not the end of the world? If it was I guess classes could just be made one on one (maybe for training of higher ups).


5a5197  No.607450

A way I thought to deal with promotion the last night was to have each individual in the hierarchy designate a heir from their subordinates. The selected individual can be changed at any time and likely should in the event of promotion or retirement rather than death. In the event of more than one individual in the chain of promotion dieing at the same time I'm not sure if the promotion should carry down the line or if through some means the subordinates of the highest level alive ought to come to a decision together. On the one hand a voting mechanism could keep those with experience at the top, on the other how could they possibly know who is most suited having never had the position in question or any knowledge of their peers due to the anonymity. Also it's often the case that the best suited for promotion is someone from a completely different part of the structure which the promoted/dieing/retireing individual never had any contact with.


5a5197  No.607451

>>607450

It just came to me. You have individuals rank everyone of their direct subordinates. Only in the event of the death of a entire level of the hierarchy do you look into two level promotions. These two level promotions take the form of consulting the highest level's list and picking the individual nearest the peak of the two lists. You can think of this as a matrix, say a commander dies and has 5 direct subordinates say each of these subordinates has 25 subordinates. In the even of a kill off of all 6 of these commanding individuals the promotion would follow through the lists in the order [1][1] [2][1] [3][1] [4][1] [5][1] [1][2] [2][2] [3][2] etc. selecting the first available individual.


214a08  No.607596

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>>607419

>Once there are enough individuals for a class, all cells that have reported an individual in need of training will be told that those individuals will report to a certain building on X date and expect them to be gone for Y weeks

Wouldn't having classes with people from multiple cells somewhat defeat the purpose of having cells in the first place? Unless you can prevent the trainees from learning anything about the other people there it seems safer to just send one trainee at a time even if it wouldn't be as efficient.


5a5197  No.607620

>>607596

Anon was likely thinking that because you don't learn about any members of the organisation higher than you in the hierarchy that it'd be okay. I tend to agree with you though that one by one is probably the way to go at minimum for the higher ups in the organisation but also for example boot camp is probably fine to have operate collectively because you can't significantly harm a organisation with information on new recruits. >>607445




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