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>the Indians, who are the ones making the deal, don't know anything about the deal!
>Indians journalists don't lie and are competent.
Again why the fuck would they be?
India did the EXACT same shit with MMRCA, they made a list of growing and outright impossible demand, to which HAL, primary contractor, always answers: "yes we can do that" and to which foreign companies (in this case Sukhoi but for MMRCA it was Dassault) answers by "lol, no".
Then Indian politicians believes that the farts noises they've heard from journalists and HAL are somehow Gospel and breaks contracts in a huff.
To come back to a much worse deal for india once the army remind them they kind of need that shit which was the reason for the contract to exist in the first place and just buy the equipment instead of developing their shitty industry.
http://www.janes.com/article/79457/india-withdraws-from-fgfa-project-leaving-russia-to-go-it-alone
>The completed FGFA should have included a total of 43 improvements over the Su-57, including stealth, supercruise, advanced sensors, networking and combat avionics. The Indian version was supposed to be a two-seater for pilot and co-pilot/weapon systems operator (WSO).
This not AT ALL the FGFA deal, this is the wet dream of the IAF/HAL.
The FGFA deal was, Shukhoi makes a new plane, India pays for the R&D and gets new sukhois at the same time the Russian gov' gets them (instead of monkey models).
India involvement is minimal besides some technical reports.
It's the exact same type of deal YOU HAVE WITH LOCKHEED.
The BAe can say they want their F-35 in 2011 to be tandem seated and going mach 3+ they will be told to go fuck themselves all the same. Because ultimately paying for part of the R&D is just paying for a VIP ticket in a showroom. You get a nice seat but you don't get to run the show.
The rest is just gigantic bullshit made up by Indian politicians.
>Jane’s also noted that the Indian officials are believed to have stated that the IAF could, at a later date, ‘revisit’ the FGFA project or alternatively acquire the fully developed platform once it had been inducted into the Russian Air Force, but did not elaborate.
Literally "instead of trying to make them in India we will just buy what the Russian gov' sells to us".
That's EXACTLY the same as what happened with the Rafale deal.
Or the Mirage deal prior to that.
Or the Sukhoi deal prior to that.
Or the MiG deal prior to that.
Or the Bo 105 deal prior to that (well they finally managed to make some… after 20 years of prototyping).