/k/ - Weapons

Stocks on pistols always looks so stupid, even these types of pistols.

>>590463

So small its cute

>>590466

Repeating flashbang.

Sounds like a pain to shoot tbh

>>590467

Well now i suppose we have the luxury of not needing anything to help stabilize repeat shooting or pistols now don't we. someone fucking kill me

why not make a normal FAL?

>>590613

Chris Bartocci shills for them pretty hard. Apparently they bought out all the tooling and blueprints FN was using for them back in the day, so if there's any US company that does FAL clones well it would be them.

>>590584

I'd put money on "ATF import point fuckery". For the ATF 50AE is more sporting purpose than 22lr.

>>590613

Apparently they've switched to cast receivers of late.

I just got my DSA Voyager 21 inch barrel ol standard last week. Been throwing a few rounds out of it about every single day, seems pretty decent. No obvious errors in worksmanship, was able to group 2 inches at 80 yards with shit grade Tula, had one hiccup because of the gas setting which was easily fixed enough. If its not a sterling, hand made Belgian beauty, it certainly seems like a functional battle rifle.

As I type, the one worry I have is that they sent a plastic magazine and not one of their own steel ones, and I prefer steel. Not only did I get the magazine I don't want, I remember watching that one Arizona-what-his-nuts-guy on the Youtube saying that Coonan and DSA receivers might not take surplus or other magazines, so I hope that when I get an order of steel magazines I don't get fucked over. I'll update if that ever happens.

Also, steel cast is inferior, but will it put a lifespan on my gun? In some cases the weaknesses of certain processes and materials can be fatal to the firearm, other times its beefcake enough to not be a concern.

>>590584

Because pistol FAL a cute

A CUTE!

>>590615

>>590613

they suck, dont buy them. The receivers are rarely in spec and are cast not forged despite their frequent spreading of misinformation about this.

buy a fal on an import receiver or a LMT (pre 2006-iirc) DSA gun

G3 pistol when?

>>590648

>but will it put a lifespan on my gun?

want to risk your gun blowing up?

>>590760

Are you seriously saying that DSA is selling receivers so weak that they will blow up in my face, and the faces of other customers? Do receivers crack and fail, not explode, because barrels and chambers explode?

Its like the Tommy gun forum I joined for a bit when my brand new TM1 had teething issues, like every other modern built Auto Ordnance gun out there. I went for the free warranty fix, which fixed the gun perfectly into a well functioning weapon, while the entire forum was pushing me to send it to a specialty custom shop instead and PAY WITH MY OWN MONEY what Kahr was supposed to do with the warranty. Seemed like they were pushing a private business or two on forum members more than help them.

The more I hear about how shitty DSA and Coonan is the more I get the feeling that custom FAL builders are smearing them for their own gain. Having someone claim that the cast receiver is going to blow up is the kind of bullshit claim that a smear campaign would use. I don't think I'm going to believe anything else bad about the company until I see otherwise.

Damn, all I want is a full-sized FAL.

>>590751

Already exist IIRC.

Can any anon tell me if a .308 pistol is any good?

>>590584

You can take a FAL pistol out for walks to the parks and let it play on the swings and nobody will look at your strangely. If you take a FAL rifle to do that everyone will think you are your FAL are some sort of weird couple.

>>590781

does anyone have the ad for the short barreled g3 that was the size of an mp5 but in 7.62 real nato

>>590463

For a moment, I read "autistic firearms"

>>591006

just go PTR and save yourself the trouble

>>591006

>Is there no good new production FALs?

Correct. Get a fal built by a respected builder on an import or lmt receiver or just get a ptr

>>591076

woah woah woah there you have a tax stamp for that AOW kiddo?

>>591076

And yet they were able to do a fucking paddle mag release which is beyond most modern manufacturers

>>591192

That's because it's a gun taken straight from the factory and given a crop job, not an original manufacture.

>>590615

>Apparently they bought out all the tooling and blueprints FN was using for them back in the day

The original blueprints aren't that important, it just saves them the trouble of having to reverse engineer the tolerances.

The tooling I really doubt they have in the first place, and even if they did it would mean less than squat. One, manufacturing processes have changed immeasurably over the last fifty years, and there's no way they're doing it old school, with banks of milling machines, lathes, and shapers, each set up to do one pass in an operation.

Two, the physical tooling is not so much important as is the institutional knowledge of how to properly tune and run that tooling. Building one rifle is easy; building a million rifles is an exercise in statistics, minimizing variation so that you produce parts within tolerance every single time.

>>591075

>That muzzle flash

Brutal

>>591076

Will try to see someone shooting it, to see the fireball it creates.

H&K could had expanded G3's modularity like a Stoner 63a at this point, instead of just milking shekels.

>>591235

Yeah, the other responses in the thread seem to echo what you say. Especially the cast receivers, I didn't know that and it's disheartening to hear. Makes me wonder why Bartocci shills for them and honestly reduces his credibility in my eyes.

>>591777

I also forgot to mention that both Coonan receivers I built on had improperly cut carry handle slots.

I really wish someone like Tortort or Bula would get into the FAL upper market.I'd gladly pay $500-$600 for a forged or billet upper that I don't have to perform finish machining on.